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>gets told creative has nothing for you and to go home

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he retires silently
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>>19485065
He's in Saudi Arabia doing promotional work
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>>19485075
>promotional work at mr beast slop festival
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>>19485065
I doubt he cares. He was pretty beat up before he returned. Almost retired it was so bad. So the lighter schedule is probably a blessing. And he's still getting paid millions a year. Again, I seriously doubt he's upset about how things have shaken out .

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John Cena lost himself within a character. Like all wrestlers, he was a shaman.

He was possessed by an archetype of the jungian hero who overcomes all odds and inspire the people to do the same. All wrestlers are shamans, and the succesful wrestlers are a vessel for an jungian archetype of the human consciousness and thus, are able to identify with people at a profound level because we all foster that archetype within our mind and wrestle with its thoughts. Examples of these mega-succesful wrestlers are CM Punk as the 'Outlaw', the one who wishes to rebel. John Cena was the 'Hero', the one we draw our resiliance from, the urge to overcome the odds. The same way we despise CM Punk when he fails to live up to the 'Outlaw' and is a hypocrit (the Outlaw follows rebellion to a fault), we despise Cena when he failed to live up to the 'Hero'. But that is the beauty of it. We only despise them because we had to love them in the first place.

Cena, more than any other wrestler, occupied his life doing 'Make a wish', being an ambassador to wrestling, and becoming this unreal superman. He was more archetype than man. Who even is John Cena? He

His entire farewell tour was a fascinating deconstruction of his own character. He embraced his shadow fully (the Hermit to the Hero), and gradually crawled out of the darkness as the fans went from booing to cheering. And in the end, he achieves not his return to Hero, but synthesis.

In the end Cena taps out. He is free from Super Cena. He is free from Make a Wish. He is free from being the first to arrive and the last to leave. He is free from expectation. You see as the archetype leaves his body, he tenses down, smiles to the camera. He is no longer a toy, he has embraced his shadow out of love for himself. A love that - we must admit - earned.

And taps free.

This is now wrestling's greatest storyline, but it will take forever until people understand. They are in grief.

Cena died, so Cena can live.

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>>19484002
Just like any other actor, no more like real life Superman. No more endless make a wish demands.
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reminds me of the rebuild of evangelion series
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>>19483984
The curtains are fucking blue, anon. Cena's entire retirement run has been pure schizophrenia propped up by moments rather than any sort of storytelling direction.
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>>19484448
Storytelling in wrestling is never perfect because there is so much that the writers cannot control, but ultimately everyone is trying to tell a coherent story even if they are not given complete control of the plot. And the stories humans tell and understand are but a few. We have to build these stories upon injuries, mistakes in the delivery of scripts, crowd chants, confused wrestlers, misdirected shows and other chaos.

Ultimately, the person telling the story from the heel turn to this ending is John Cena, since he is the most in control of it all. The result is a great jungian tale of embracing one's shadow and being reborn. HHH fumbled a lot of the booking, but this ending ties everything together in one of wrestling's greatest stories.

This is something you don't even see in movies or books anymore. It is the father that, having done his role, finally gives in to fragility. It is the saint that finally chooses himself as his benefactor.

There is a great story being told here, that built upon itself. We are lucky it managed to end, even if some parts felt like filler (like the Lesnar fight).
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>>19483402
If it wasn't too much work for no pay, I'd make a edit out of this match with fade in of the highlight reel they showed with Komm susser tod blasting in the background.
At the end I'd put "Just Give up" text slowly fading in and turning the screen black with just the text on it.

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Husband who lets his wife take BBC
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>>19484741
A necessary political rival
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>>19484741
THE GUY WHO'S GOT IYO SKY'S PUSSY
I KNOW SHE WANTS ME
I KNOW SHE'S FINE
I'VE BEEN IN WHERE YOU WANNA BE

OH-OH

Jokes aside, Punk really understands the industry and understands storytelling. He was probably in how this would end, he knew it was gonna be one of wrestling's greatest stories.

Punk also knows he is next.
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>>19484741
Its funny how Punk and Orton have been around about as long as Cena, yet were able to evolve through the years while Cena never strayed from the stale superman gimmick.
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>>19484876
This

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Who was the better heel? Who drew the most heat?
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>>19485013
Dio was such a good heel they had to bring him back to face another top babyface

Kira was my personal favorite one

Tooru was completely dimeless, but his stand was cool
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>>19485032
I feel bad for Dopio. People always give Diavolo credit for his died with Rissoto because of his last minute interference even though it was Dopio who did most of the work.
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Dio is an unrelenting draw and the indisputable top dog but for me it's Valentine working the marks with his America First gimmick.
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>>19485032
I heard Tooru was a last minute decision as they were obviously favouring Jobin as the next big heel until his push was cut short dramatically. I wonder if he had some heat backstage.
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>>19485013
Dio for sheer charisma and drawing power.
Kira is my personal favorite.
Pucci worked everyone into a shoot with the "reset" that got the entire roster replaced.

This is the destination for all based webms, brother
On tonight's docket: NJPW World Tag League, Kaito's anniversary show and more!
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>>19482347
thank you webmbro Merry Christmas
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>>19475071
Cool bump and I don't think I've seen this one done before.
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>>19482347
Thank you!

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How embarrassing will his retirement be?
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>>19485045
So you don't know?
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>>19485027
We are gonna need a bigger jobber what about Corbin?
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>>19485027
GOONTA's gonna tap him out
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>>19485045
he's a muppet
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>>19485027
When he comes back dronies are gonna proclaim Tony fumbled and the goat is back. Really pathetic fucking losers

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>>19484966
>troonsky
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>>19484995
Is dumb to think they can't or aren't the issue is invading people's property
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>>19484966
>you stopped watching thing? WATCH RIVAL THING
No, I will just stop watching thing.
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BIX
DONT
MISS
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>>19485044
he misses the toilet bowl all the time

retired two legends
never drew a dime
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>>19484481
imagine being proud of being a wrestling dweeb and not a chad casual fan
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>>19485007
Could you possibly be one of the worked marks?
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Goldberg should have gone over
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>>19485007
My brother... just look at the state of this board. Look at the catalog.

A hundred plus threads have been screamed into existence since last night, an onslaught of worked marks crying about a babyface losing to a heel. Dozens and dozens of paragraphs about how this is the death of wrestling, how HHH has ruined their childhood, how Gunther must never be allowed to benefit from this grave betrayal of the fans trust.

Any attempt to talk these fans off the proverbial ledge has been met with screeching hatred and threats of watching AEW.

If you think these aren't worked marks... then what is this?
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>>19485058
Many are saying this

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I hate when WWE gets up it's own ass with muh storytelling. Sometimes it's just fine to give the fans what they want.
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>>19482303
pw lukerer here. Are fans mad because Cena ended it on a loss or mad because he lost in weak way?
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>>19483458
No it doesn't though. You can still fail at something even if you don't give up and put in every last part of yourself you can. That's life brother. You're not always going to win no matter how bad you might want to, no matter how much you give something, no matter if it kills you. You can always still come up short. Walking out on a match you know you can't win and getting counted out is giving up. Getting intentionally dq'ed to get out of it is giving up. Facing the challenge dead on even though you know you're going to lose and still losing is the opposite of giving up
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>>19484986
Disagree.

It could’ve been the proverbial “won’t remember what happened but remembered how it made them feel” moment, demonstrating the fun storytelling that’s possible in this medium. Those good feelings can remain and carry over into further interest in the product, regardless of whether Cena is still there.

That’s the other thing Paul failed to grasp: last night wasn’t really about “John Cena” either. It was more about the heroic archetype he represented, and the desire to see that hero ride off into the sunset like a good Hollywood movie.

Last night could’ve (should’ve) been a symbolic representation of wrestling’s unique ability to craft aspirational narratives where the hero wins (when everyone knows that doesn’t always happen in reality). Instead of giving new fans that escape during a fucking exhibition card on a Saturday night during the fucking hope-filled holiday season, HHH played it serious, straight, and grinch’d all over it.

He had the opportunity to think big (creating a true moment that showed new fans what’s possible with this artform), and instead he played it small (putting over a middling heel for a 2026 storyline).
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>>19483544
>And the told the story so well that someone on 4chan has to explain it to me.
Except I'm on here too and didn't need it explained to me. I just watched the match and recounted what I saw
>>19483439
Appreciate ya anon
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>>19485069
You recounted the shit booking that made no sense sure

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hero boomp
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why did nastypoi appear on naho's youtube channel?
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I love japanese women so much, bros
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>>19484580
thanks
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>>19482996
disturbing

How's your media literacy /pw/?
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>>19484895
Moonsaultsissies...
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>>19485023
ANTHONY FANTANO HERE
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>>19485023
PEACHY FROM THE TOP ROPE
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>>19484919
>being such a haitch mark that you believed his style of booking is anything but "no u" type of shitposting
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>>19485023
Lol I used to watch this guys youtube channel. He's a right cunt and makes shit music

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Bron, noooooo, run away
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>>19484254
Grim
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>>19482931
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>>19484975
arent all women?
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>>19482931
>15+ year age gap
hot
hope he calls her mommy in bed
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>>19482931
Big E is engaged to Mia Yim's sister.

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this would be a crazy hall of fame line up i orton and lesnar retired next year
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>>19485048
Where is Shelton?
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>>19485067
Based

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>I'd like to teach the world to sing
>In perfect harmony
>I'd like to buy the world a Coke
>And keep it company
>That's the real thing
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>>19480373
Nice feet
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Not yet
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>>19483597
MVPudding
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'mu is a judeo-christian goddess
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>>19484672
Sad we never had Tam/Saori tag champions

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anyone got pics?
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>>19485028
it all went to her tits and ass


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