La Vuelta Ciclista a España (2.UWT)Stage 9Motril - Granada178.5 kmStartlist:https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/vuelta-a-espana/2024/startlistGC after stage 8:https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/vuelta-a-espana/2024/stage-8-gcLive stats:https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/vuelta-a-espana/2024/stage-9/liveRoadbook:https://storage-aso.lequipe.fr/ASO/cycling_vue/la-vuelta-24-libro-de-ruta.pdfStreams:https://live.tiz-cycling.io/https://cycling.today/live-streaming/Eurosport / Discovery+ / RTVE / VRT / NOS / Flobikes14:30 CETPrevious thread:>>143968927
>>143988421Current and upcoming races:17.08 - 08.09 La Vuelta Ciclista a España 2.UWT21.08 - 25.08 Lidl Deutschland Tour 2.Pro25.08 Bretagne Classic - Ouest-France 1.UWT27.08 - 31.08 Tour of Hainan 2.Pro28.08 Muur Classic Geraardsbergen 1.128.08 - 01.09 Renewi Tour 2.UWT01.09 Grote prijs Beerens 1.1 WE03.09 - 08.09 Tour of Britain 2.Pro03.09 - 08.09 Tour Cycliste Féminin International de l'Ardèche 2.1 WE6.09 - 08.09 Tour de Romandie Féminin 2.WWT08.09 BEMER Cyclassics 1.UWT08.09 GP Industria & Artigianato 1.Pro08.09 GP de Fourmies / La Voix du Nord 1.Pro08.09 La Choralis Fourmies Féminine 1.1 WE11.09 Giro della Toscana - Memorial Alfredo Martini 1.111.09 European Continental Championships ME - ITT CC11.09 European Continental Championships WE - ITT CC12.09 - 15.09 Tour of İstanbul 2.112.09 Gran Premio città di Peccioli - Coppa Sabatini 1.Pro13.09 Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec 1.UWT14.09 European Continental Championships WE - Road Race CC14.09 Memorial Marco Pantani 1.115.09 Grand Prix Cycliste de Montréal 1.UWT15.09 European Continental Championships ME - Road Race CC15.09 Grand Prix d'Isbergues - Pas de Calais 1.115.09 Trofeo Matteotti 1.115.09 Women's Cycling Grand Prix Stuttgart & Region 1.Pro WE15.09 Grand Prix International d'Isbergues - Pas de Calais Féminin 1.1 WE18.09 Grand Prix de Wallonie 1.Pro18.09 - 22.09 Skoda Tour de Luxembourg 2.Pro18.09 St Feuillien Grand Prix de Wallonie 1.1 WE20.09 Kampioenschap van Vlaanderen 1.1 ME>Mecha-Rusbert's webm folders:https://pastebin.com/SrccaJA6>Bert van Koers' ciclismo quizzes:https://www.sporcle.com/user/Bert_van_Koers/quizzes/>Races info:https://www.procyclingstats.com/https://firstcycling.com/>Free streams:https://live.tiz-cycling.io/https://cycling.today/live-streaming/>Velodrama league code:11453895
Bretagne Classic - Ouest-France (1.UWT)Plouay - Plouay259.8 kmStartlist:https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/bretagne-classic/2024/startlist/startlistLive stats:https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/bretagne-classic/2024/result/liveRoadbook:http://www.pco.bzh/medias/men-pro/2024-Guide-Technique.pdfStreams:https://live.tiz-cycling.io/https://cycling.today/live-streaming/Eurosport / Discovery+ / France TV Sport12:40 CET
It was a better time
Lidl Deutschland Tour (2.Pro)Stage 4 (Final)Annweiler am Trifels - Saarbrücken182.7 kmStartlist:https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/deutschland-tour/2024/startlistGC after stage 3:https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/deutschland-tour/2024/stage-3-gcLive stats:https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/deutschland-tour/2024/stage-4/liveRoadbook:https://www.deutschland-tour.com/fileadmin/content/2_Deutschland_Tour/DT_24/Elite/DT24-Roadbook-BD.pdfStreams:https://live.tiz-cycling.io/https://cycling.today/live-streaming/Eurosport / Discovery+15:05 CET
>>143988503
it's over
>>143988699>Marg Badun
>>143988699>PADUN
>>143988699>Padun
>>143988699also, sheikh Yeis is real
>>143988567lmao
>>143988819and suleiman became an aussie
>>143988819A stands for Abd al-Rahman
>>143988902
Padun will always be proof you can dope an absolute jobber to the highest level without getting caught.
>>143988965our boy was born because of that, so all is forgiven
I ate so much post ride that I want to vomit
>>143989111>One-Punch Man>not baldwhat did he mean by that
>>143989175he still needs a little bit more time
I'm so happy the Vuelta is going for once to so many places I know. It's really cool seeing them from the air
>>143989199We're all gonna make it.
>>143988699>quintanaIs it the chalet renard in February?
>>143989175Is mumen rider /ourguy/?
>>143989290that dog isnt
>>143989316He is kind, brave, and rides a step-over, so no.
>>143989287based
Hair transplant tomorrows berts, i am allowed to watch whatever i want during the procedure so i'll just pop the vuelta for 6 hours.Listening to based Jacky Durand while some stranger massacres my scalp.I hope its gonna be an entertaining stage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH7fk6KLbqEsll dsy fucking every day experience of riding in america. but usually they aren't balls enough to stop like that, usually they just ride alongside you to do the arguing
>>143989316No, only Kintaro is a true (young) Bert.
>>143989404
>>143989404coward
>>143989414Hope you get a open carry license and do all your rides packing.
>>143989287I know right. I get excited even when tour of Slovenija is on tv just because I've done loads of those climbs pros are doing.And then I look at the KOM of those climbs and how shit I am in comparison and I get a bit depressed.
>>143989404I for one think that people should just embrace it. but then again, I'm not one to say anything since I have full head of hair. my ailment is premature greying. curiously, since it got advanced enough, it's not that noticeable.
Pablo Torres is the product of abandoning Z2 at an early age
>>143989404Good luck. I hear those things hurt like hell.
>>143989404how much
>>143989564Not half as much as watching João fade
>>143989404So this is the power of the vegan diet?
Imagine having to cycle with some infection or disease at 40°C
>>143989414>That move at 2:15-2:20This guy has a death wish anyways lol, what the fuck is he doing
>>143989523There's this one cunt I know who still follows the Z2 devil and he rides up steep rampas at 50 rpm and crawling speed to stay in Z2 at all cost. Unhinged behavior
>>1439895755000 euros / 2200 graphs >>143989508Bert i'm gonna be honest its one of the hardest thing i've ever had to cope with mentaly.
Don't feel like drinking, don't feel like sitting home, don't feel like just a walk will cut it.Decisions.
>>143989840Really? Are you scared of aging?
>>143989840why fear the inevitable
>>143989414should've knocked that hippie out
>>143989840>5000 euros / 2200 graphskeep us posted!
>>143989840well, I kinda get you. I even dyed my hair couple of times before (I got my first white hair at the tender age of 16). but then decided that it is what it is. now it's just looks fine. some sort of salt&pepper situation, that somehow not really noticeable. got even carded several times trying to buy beer couple of years ago.
>>143989840Don't know, I didn't give a shit and just stayed bald once I had to go bald because of a self-buzzing mishap.But it is kinda like fear of coping with chicken feet and baggy skin on your face.It's coming and it is natural, you can fool everyone and yourself only for so long. The only intervention that has a point is teeth and eye correction, because they do age but they also pay an important function besides aesthetics. So happens that I have ok but not great either of these.
>>143989883I'm 33 today, i had dense and long hair until 25-26.When you had long hairs for 3/4 of your life a brutal image change is hard to cope with.That was part of my personality, part of me.
>>143990032*inhales*Bon anniv!
>João almerdaLmao always the same coof cope shit. Take a few more boosters you vaxxxed retard. Get fucked, fraud. Next time ask your pogamerda teammate his dope needle lmao.Always lovely to see Rogla dab on shitters.
>>143990012scratch that, I got carded this month in Chelyabinsk gastrohall by a very rude girl who's like 10 years my junior. and I just tried to buy Lambrusco for my mom
>>143990272Maybe she just wanted to know what's your name and how old are you.>captcha: HAARM
>>143990272Kek.Love it when people are new to the job and just card everyone out of fear.
what does aSLP meanwho the FUCK is Pablo Torres
>>143989732Can't be very pleasant
>>143990353>what does aSLP meansea level power>who the FUCK is Pablo TorresAyuso greatest fear
>>143989404holy kek
>>143990032I've always wondered how people react when their friends go to turky for hair transplant. I assume you mock him for a couple of months and then forget about it.
>>143990398Unexpectedly helpful response, thank you fren
>Woods kills his team for 22ndwhat did he mean by this?
Don't forget about superclasico tomorrow
>>143989404...godspeed
>>143990517Got caught behind the crash
>>143990606the old man wouldn't have kept up anyway
did they?
>>143990606How convenient.
>>143990772Wout is very expressive, I give him that
they fucked up 3rd femmes place again. she's from Spain
Willem Defoe looking mf
>>143991003>143991003
>>143991003when I look at this guy I wonder how pogacar gets away with his juicy baby skin legs
>>143991003Watch LIGHT SLEEPER (1992) for a kino Dafoe performance
>the vegan, don't drink alcohol, I don't vaccinate my kids schizo can't cope with being baldeheheheh
>>143990944>>143991003He has the face of a villan.Perfect for UAE or Ineos.
>>143991097he's in UAE Gen Z squad, yes
>>143991085I respect him less than I used to now
>>143991065I am watching CALL NORTHSIDE 777 (1948)
>>143991117me too, all that smug shitting on people only to reveal this
>>143989414Just stop at the stop sign or kys, noo need to bring in some car driver to your death wish.
Absolute state of Georgia tech
>>143989840Plastic surgery is for women and fags, I don't even get my teeth fixed.After you hit 30 you should start ogremaxxxing.
>>143991361scouse in algarve?weather has been excellent tbqh
>>143991346Nevermind! What a game from Dublin
Lars VANDEN HEEDE braved incoming traffic and won stage 2 of West Bohemia Tour
>>143991150>>143991085I'll give him a pass because he's parisian and it's hard not to be superficial in that city
>>143991361This, once I hit 30 I started going character-actor-mode
>>143991505>ynr the Paris Olympia opening ceremonyunderstandable
Luckily I have scandi blood, we all look good bald
>>143991559was this him?
>>143991424meanwhile Petr RIKUNOV won high altitude, but flat stage of Trans-Himalaya Cycling Race
>>143990944Kek they have a young rider cotegory in l'avenir?
>>143989635I have a full head of hair pussy
Damn.Alpecin doesn't even need to shill on this board.
>>143991601yes, for some reason
>>143991411Pvre NORTHERN Portvgvese stock.>>143991538Americans are alright sometimes.
>>143991605Head full of pussyhair, maybe
>>143991583
>>143991646Lose weight
>>143991647
>>143991605Let me guess, open relationship?
>>143991686no I keep my girlfriend on a leash, shame her into staying at sub 20bmi into her late 20s and I have a full head of hair.
>>143991424he’s used to it
>>143991708youre a tranny who are you trying to fool
>>143991424what stops another team from complaining that their rider got hindered by traffic?
>>143991739You got it all mixed up bert that's your dad who used to crossdress and suck off guys. He ate too much meat and dairy it got to his head
Ciclismo
did Matje going to EC get discussed?
>>143991803
Cycling?
>>143991809some more Z2 and a leadout for kooijnice way to end the season
Ciclismo über alles
>>143991809I might watch it now, but he might just be there to leadout koijv
>>143991809win the EC, win the WCmerge the jerseys
>>143991819
>>143991862
Pablito should be at the Vuelta not the baby Tour
When was the last time whe had a decent EC?
>>143991906>>143991826
>>143991906
>>143991906colbrelli because we didn't have to see the jerseybefore that sagan
>>143991946I love tall girls.Long legs are okay too.
>>143991996Yes
>>143991946what's it like being a marlenman in 2024 when she's out forever and probably retiring soon
>>143992056It's been tough. I've been reassessing and adding Breadworld as a hedge
>>143991906italy was good race
>>143992056she needs to attach herself to Demi. they work well as a pair
>>143991906Colbrelli vs. Remco
i am still alivelost 4 kgs in 24 hours, that's impressive
https://news.sky.com/story/man-bleeding-after-hair-transplant-arrested-for-refusing-to-leave-plane-at-miami-airport-13200529>Auto-chutist Veganbert sought by the gendarmes
>>143992084a real winner that one and about the same size as marlen >>143992113I dont think shes coming back at all 2bh
Ayuso is shaking in fear
>>143991850If I were a rider, I would deliberately lose the EC to avoid this monstrosity of a jersey
>>143992132
>>143992124hang in there. take enterosgel and then enterol. worked for me
>>143988699looks like he went through near death experience
>>143992163Blue eyed chad too, he's finished
>>143992124Lose another 4 tomorrow, your dubs per kay-gee will be out of the world
>>143992132heh
>>143992124you missed our discussion of the lack of road closure for some junior race in west böhmen (your hood)
>>143992163Spain is on a roll with upcoming talent
>>143991946
>>143992290Hector Alvarez is next up
strong 3rd place for landa on todays stage 2bh didnt think he had it in him
>>143992348What about marti pau
>>143992290and then they all kinda turn into Enric Mas
>>143992358He keeps showing up at the end of climbs out of nowhereI think the Guardia Civil is driving him up in a little car
Tomorrow is when the Vuelta truly starts.If Rog and Mas can't put 2 minutes into O'coomer then it's probably over.
>>143992401Henrik Mads, now that's a runner. Just needs a bit more time.
>>143992380Hes the same year as Pablito, plus he rides for the terrorist team
>>143988965I don't think so because then it would happen all the time. There are many dopers out there not getting anywhere near that Padun level. It was so freakish that it's the only performance where I would consider an ebike a possibility.
>>143992534Foliforov was 100% an ebike
van Hooydonk said on training camps he would use a different road to avoid tomorrow's climb because it was so hard but Kuss and Roglic would do it three times a day
>>143992590jumbo jesus avoided the climb? 10 euros on Roglic
>>143992590Who is van Gooijdonckx?
i miss him
>>143992590He also said pogacar would lose the giro because of his solo in strade
>>143988699Kek
>>143991085who vaccinates their kids?
>>1439924533:49 lead now. immediately take 1 minute off for the TT2:49take 60 seconds off for Rog bonuses1:49he's already crackingstill 10 mountain stages leftYeah BOC ain't winning this
>>143992693Of course not and they should stop sacrificing gall ASAP
>>143992633Bala...
nice try Vuelta but Omloop remains the king
>>143989414I dont get it, the cagie was right, dude blew through the stop sign like he had a suicide wish.
>>143992124Imagine the length of a tapeworm coming out of Bertaczek's gut.
>>143992735Gall is also not beating Roglic. Might as well bet on the guy with a big lead.
>>143992534>>143992559
>>143992837Gall could podium this though. BOC is losing a minute per rampa, this is not going to end well
>>143992857greatest e-biking hits
>>143992899
>>143989414That's fine to do if you can see no one's coming from the left. This guy just wants to die on the road I guess (>>143989758).
>organize diversity festival >get stabbed by refugeesKek germans are retarded no wonder they can't produce cycling talent.
>>143992899and of course
>>143992899Coolest sprint I've ever seen.
>>143992915
>>143988421ah .. ahhhh ... I'm gonna RAMP
post Nibali stickybottle
>>143992899That's just good draft surfing while coming with speed
>>143992932This is the only definitive actual e-bike one desu
>>143992932I never understood how he got away with it
>>143992937
>>143992958https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6QhYXxeyz4this is my favourite ever michel wuyts commentary, i'm sorry for the people that don't speak dutch because it's very funny
>>143992836you fucking retard
>>143993008Are you alright
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avOx44YRFFUremember this classic
>>143993030no, i am tired of this volksdeutsch cunt tarnishing the image of silesian polish bertaczeks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsqYA6A6Dz8aw yeah we going having a youtube sesh now
>>143993036While we're posting the classicshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsk3zAZyLaQ
>>143992791Stradechuds in the fucking DIRTGet fucked veloman
>>143993071>don't go anywhere https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuaW5IzbnUc
>>143991946>ynr Reusser probably isn't competing any more this year and has posted about suffering from ME
>>143993006Kek, this is still so fucking funny
>>143992899this one actually makes be kinda believe
>>143992932explain to me why this is e-bike?
>>143993006Im fucking dying
Almeida DNS tomorrow all but confirmed https://www.ojogo.pt/1282349744/joao-almeida-testou-positivo-a-covid-19/
Murn, Stangelj, Valjavec, Hvastija, Golcer, Spilak, Brajkovic, Bole, Bozic, Koren, Kump, Pibernik...
>>143993334Jobbers. Or maybe heros.
>>143993049Brtek, he called you Silesian-Polish, almost Moravian.
>>143993319nah, he'll stage hunt
>>143993334Actually Špilak was never cought. I resent the accusation.
>>143993334these were the sacrifices so pogacar could exist
>>143993363I AM FROM PLESS YOU FUCKING CUNT
>>143993497Cute pup, sorey you master is Polish. Usually the uppiest tards come from the Zory-Pszczyna area.
>>143993670And Wodzislaw.
>>143993670The opole (inentionally lowercase) anon should post with german flag. He is not polish and probably german as well Majka and kwiato mot hessmsn and ACKermann ok???
HUGE result for /cyc/ today (well yesterday). Last race of the season, best race of the season. Had a plan, executed it to almost perfection.
FUCK W*UT
>>143993926Very good. A win for z2
>>143993768I dream of being one of the ze Teutonic Tormentors, especially picking KWIATKOWSKI in a race he is not running.Maybe you have meant ANIOLKOWSKI who was in the race but is clearly done for this year.Drink less. Or hold your booze in like a true Polak.
>>143993926>almostso you didn't win?
Tomorrow's stage goes over the final mountain twice, so an opportunity for domestiques to stop at the foot of the mountain the first time and relax and recover while waiting for the GC leader to come back around, so they can bomb a train up the mountain
>>143994053The win went to an Estonian Conti rider. Had no chance at winning today. Also this is literally my first season of racing. I'm very happy with being able to figure out a good race plan and actually execute it.
>>143994140>beaten by Rait Ärmok, there's no shame in this
>>143994140>>143994200Rait ARM and his right arm are no joke. It has to be a good experience.
do you guys mountain bike?
>>143994776I do. I ride more on gr*vel and singletrack than I do on pavement these days due to the insane homicidal cagies in my area.
>>143994776No mountains here so I just bike.
>>143995172>Rampas humanas
>>143994776no. i don't enjoy mountain biking
I'm thinking of going full weeb and go to Japan for 2 weeks. Convince me not to do it.
>>143995383No. Stop. Don't.
>>143995383go find a girl like hitomi and slap her titties then return to post results
>>143995339What's wrong with you? Going fast down trails and jumping off terrain features is extremely fun
>>143996141>extremely fun>cycling
I can't imagine being interested in cycling if I lived in some northern swamp like Belgium or DanishlandWhy the fuck would you be into riding a bike if you lived there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpragTWd5WU knucklehead time
everysingle cyclist ever wears oakley sutros
>>143996328I wear aviators and listen to Audioslave on a portable speaker while I ride
>>143995383Come with me to Fyn instead. We can cycle up and down Langeland
>>143996410Why ride on Langeland when southern Fyn is so nice?
>>143996250that's because you don't actually like cycling as a sportnothing wrong with that, you do you bro
>>143996250You live in the land of rolling coal and de facto legal vehicular manslaughter. A burgers into cycling is a good indicator that he has a screw loose.
>>143996555We were doing a good job changing this stereotype before the schizoids appeared
>>143996555one of the reasons I like american runnersyou have to be insane and love the sport so much to dedicate yourself to such a difficult and unforgivable activity where the only real career you can do is across the Atlantic where you'll probably earn less than staying at home working at McDonald's
>>143996613Yeah, was it is olympics bringing the badburgers in?
>>143996250Counterpoint: living in flat swamps makes cycling everywhere extremely easy and accessible, and from that more folks can evolve to proper cyclismo environments
>>143996497I spent a lot of my teen summers on Langeland with my childhood friends Jokke, Freddy, Emil and Lange Mikkel (our class also had a Lille Mikkel and a Brune Mikkel).
>>143996632No I think he was always here and just ramped up his insanity. No tourist would pick Fignon of all places as their avatar
>>143996658Three Mikkels thats extra. Only time I was on Langeland I spend it in a parking lot with some scooter driving hoodlums, so I don't have a great perception of the place.
>>143996742A-class had three Kim's. And we spent our summers lifting weights and playing music in Humble
>Long Michael, Little Michael and Brown Michael
>>143996927Brune Mikkel's mom was Syrian or Kurdish or something I don't know
>>143996632>>143996677FigAnon been posted FigAnon in pol for ages. Can't imagine he's that new. You should be thankful he isn't spamming tommy mommy.
>>143997347*Posting Fignon in pol
>>143997347oh he's a poltard. That explains a lot.
>>143996546thats not danland or belgium retard>>143996555I live in a place where I can ride 50 miles with 8k of climbing in forested roads and never see a single car
>>143997461Don't be so biased fren. Pol didn't turn figanon a schizo, an insatiable lust for french people did.
>>143997749There's no bias. Its the balanced moderate opinion that pol posters should kill themselves.
>>143997916>Kindest Dane Lol
l kindly post some /bh/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsJ4O-nSveg
>>143996172Cycling doesn't put a smile on your face?
>>143994069Any chance someone gets lapped? It's impossible, right?
>>143991538for me its fignon-maxxing
>>143990032youre just going to lose the hair they transplanted it from, AND lose the hair they put in unless you take the tranny hormones. and youll have scars from where they took it off. if it bothers you so much idk why you trannys dont just buy a wig and wear it when youre trying to get some pussy man, holy shit
>>143993926>>143994140How did the race go bert? Very nice result from you, if not for the break you'd be on the podium. Good job even beating the 2030 RvV winner Kasper BORREMANS.
lmao
>>144001711
>>143997347>>143997749tommy mommy on pol, fignon on /cyc/.>>143996613what makes you think im schizoid??
Florian Samuel KAJAMINI to ASTANA. They must be getting rid of a lot of garbage (and getting some new garbage like Scaleb)
>Drie herten kruisten het parcours van de Vuelta en dat zorgde voor flink wat schade bij een renner en aan de fietsen van Euskaltel. Eén hert kwam zelfs vast te zitten tussen de fietsen en het rek bovenop het dak van een volgwagen van de Baskische ploeg. Marc Wauters van Lotto Dstny was de eerste die met het verhaal kwam aandraven. “Nu heb ik iets gezien wat ik nog nooit eerder heb gezien”, stak ‘soldaat’ Wauters van wal. “Op een kilometer of vijftien van de finish kwamen er plots drie herten van tussen de olijfbomen geschoten. Het eerste dier sprong nog vlotjes over de wagen van de ploegdokter, het tweede dier landde pal op de tweede volgwagen van Euskaltel. Ineens zag ik een hert dat vast zat tussen de fietsen op het dak van hun ploegwagen”, vulde Wilfried Peeters aan. “Het beest spartelde wat om zich te bevrijden, één fiets viel van het dak en zo kon het zichzelf weer bevrijden. En het waren serieuze beesten.”>“Ik kan het verhaal alleen maar bevestigen”, kon Unai Iraragorri, woordvoerder van Euskaltel, er een half uur na de wedstrijd al om lachen. “Eén van onze renners, Txomin Juaristi, kwam ten val door een botsing met een reebok die de weg overstak. Hij liep oppervlakkige schaafwonden aan zijn rug op en kreeg een klap op de onderrug. Hij stelt het goed, al is het afwachten hoe het zich verder ontwikkelt. Op het moment dat hij zich liet behandelen aan de medische auto van de Vuelta, stak een tweede hert over. Een derde hert kwam vast te zitten in het fietsenrek op onze tweede ploegleiderswagen. Dat zorgde voor flinke schade aan twee fietsen.” Vanuit één van de achteropkomende ploegwagens werd wel een foto getrokken van het moment net na de aanrijding. Si no lo veo no lo creo, luidde het passend bijschrift. Je kan het enkel geloven als je het gezien hebt.JUARISTI got hit by a deer and chuted, and then another deer jumped on the Euskaltel car and got stuck between the bicycles. Deers on the ATTACK in Spain.
Ah that was the Ciccone chute. So he got annihilated by the deer too!
>>144002693>deer stuck between the bicyclesthat sounds hardcore, is there video
>>144002728No. Just a picture after the deer is gone but you can't see shit, just some rustled bikes on the car
>>144002693Deer are established forest retards. Almost all other animals can avoid the dumbest deaths possible, maybe besides boars, by at least they can go on a rampage. But not deer, oh no, deer aim at running across road exactly in the tempo of an oncoming vehicle, they get their antlers stuck in the dumbest way all the time and they can look a hunter straight in the eye for minutes before they get shot.Dumbasses.>>144002713Yes, that was the one, was about to mention that but I AM PPATTTing. The TV shot had no apparent trace of any deer, although we surely were not looking for it.
>Is dit nog realistisch te noemen? Kan toch niet dat Widar na zo'n lang seizoen moe is en Torres nu nog de beste klimprestatie ooit bij jongeren neerzet>Zoals ik in het andere artikel ook al zei, is dit er wel héél ver over. UAE lacht ons weeral volledig in ons gezicht uit. Pak even zijn uitslagen van vorig jaar, of desnoods zelfs nog van begin dit jaar, erbij en probeer met droge ogen te beweren dat het allemaal volkomen normaal is dat deze jongen de beste klimprestatie van een belofterenner ooit neer zet.
the vaxx taxx is being paid
>>144002804Sorry Lelgians, your boy is just a FRAUD. Squeaking about frauds, did we talk about Coquard DNF yesterday?
>>144003005>Coquard DNF yesterdayI mean might aswell. There is only stage 17 left for the sprinters. Fuck waiting for that if you aren't fighting for green.
>>144003005That's from wielerflits lad, it's a dutchie
I am glad I have left Azerbaijan. Look at these creepy fucking clowns. That country is FUCKED UP
DNS Joao ALMEIDA
>>144003005it’s just jumboflits preemptively attacking an uae rider
>>144003488mcnulty probably has it too
>>144001452The plan was to get on a break that doesn't threaten Cup results. Expecting that the guys battling for the Cup win might bridge us at some point.>Küüt goes off solo at around 40 minutes into the race>get away for free with another guy from the peloton a bit later>get joined by 3 more guys shortly after and Küüt ends up waiting for us after we have a bit of a gap>6 man break with 1 - 2 minute gap for most of the time>we kept going up the climb fast every single time>get dropped eventually from the break on the climb couple laps before the finish>wait for peloton>all the guys in contention for the cup win aren't there but riding in grupetto>give it my all on the final climbOverall very happy with the result. What I really need to work on is my <2 min power. It keeps being my biggest issue in races.
>Live broadcast missed thisfuck the vuelta
>>144003565>Marc Wauters of Lotto Dstny was the first to come up with the story. “Now I have seen something I have never seen before”, Wauters started. “About fifteen kilometres from the finish, three deer suddenly shot out from between the olive trees. The first animal jumped smoothly over the team doctor's car, the second animal landed right on the second Euskaltel follow-up car.”>“Suddenly I saw a deer stuck between the bikes on the roof of their team car”, Wilfried Peeters added. “The animal struggled a bit to free itself, one bike fell off the roof and that's how it was able to free itself again. And they were serious animals.”>“I can only confirm the story”, Unai Iraragorri, spokesman for Euskaltel, could already laugh about it half an hour after the race. “One of our riders, Txomin Juaristi, fell after a collision with a roe deer that was crossing the road. He suffered superficial abrasions on his back and a blow to his lower back. He is doing well, although it remains to be seen how it will develop further. At the moment he was being treated at the Vuelta medical car, a second deer crossed the road. A third deer got stuck in the bike rack on our second team car. That caused considerable damage to two bikes.”>According to the Vuelta medical report, Italian Lidl-Trek rider Giulio Ciccone also fell because of the crossing deer.
>>144003565>>144003586Alsjeblieft, let op wat er in het draad gebeurt
>>144003609nah
>>144003488STOP. THE. COUNT.
59 teams with a dead rider now, 2 with tree riders dead.34 teams fully alive.
How was your ride this morning dear berts. Easy gravel one for me, quite nice
>>144004079wanted to ride but my intestines decided otherwise so I just spent an hour sling around dumbbells
>>144001711I picked five of those, tired of velodrama tbdesu
>race doesn't start till 10:35>velogames already closedwell no more adjoosting
>>144002693
i believe in REX supremacy
>>144004079After 275 TSS day yesterday it's a rest day. My Garmin said 90 hours of rest needed but I think I'm just gonna do one full day and then some easy rides.
>>144004194Is Garmin rest time accurate? I've had some conflicting results where it barely says I should rest after a 5 hour hard ride.
>>144003586>release the deers Coincidence?I think Not
>>144001711Only 1 secret pick for meAlso this dude is overrating Van Pils
>>144004182picked me boys and her/she
>>144004182Cort will do nothing but he's my boy so I have to pick himLapeira might disappoint but has potential, and if not, maybe cosneking assist points
>>144004216I don't think so, it keeps giving me ridiculous numbers and I could barely ride if I followed it. But I'm kinda new to the Garmin ecosystem so it doesn't have a lot of data on me. But I can feel yesterday in my legs rn.
(CAPS means rider not participating but picked. Only teams with one or two non-participants are included, the rest is highly probably not taking part in race.)28 Marc Hirschi23 Thibau Nys22 Benoît Cosnefroy22 Julian Alaphilippe17 Maxim Van Gils16 Arnaud De Lie15 Valentin Madouas12 Jan Christen8 Romain Grégoire7 Paul Lapeira7 Axel Laurance6 Dorian Godon5 Alex Aranburu4 Christophe Laporte3 Alex Baudin3 Magnus Cort3 Thomas Pidcock3 Diego Ulissi2 Kévin Vauquelin2 Laurenz Rex2 Lukas Nerurkar2 Jasper Stuyven2 Mathieu Burgaudeau2 Michael Matthews2 Jonas Abrahamsen2 Finn Fisher-Black1 Olivier Le Gac1 Paul Magnier1 Bastien Tronchon1 LENNY MARTINEZ1 ATTILA VALTER1 Davide De Pretto1 Baptiste Planckaert1 MARIJN VAN DEN BERG1 Emil Herzog1 Edoardo Zambanini1 LEWIS ASKEY1 Felix Großschartner1 Tiesj Benoot1 Neilson Powless1 Iván García Cortina1 Søren Wærenskjold1 Quinn Simmons1 Thomas Gachignard1 Ilan Van Wilder1 Magnus Sheffield
>>144004319I've had rides where lactate was popping out of my ears and it said just rest 25 hours lmao you're fineand then I do a long easy Z2 ride later that week and it says 20 hours
2 ======18 Marc Hirschi Thibau Nys15 Marc Hirschi Julian Alaphilippe15 Thibau Nys Julian Alaphilippe14 Marc Hirschi Benoît Cosnefroy3 ======11 Marc Hirschi Thibau Nys Julian Alaphilippe8 Marc Hirschi Thibau Nys Jan Christen8 Marc Hirschi Thibau Nys Maxim Van Gils8 Marc Hirschi Thibau Nys Benoît Cosnefroy8 Thibau Nys Benoît Cosnefroy Julian Alaphilippe4 ======6 Marc Hirschi Thibau Nys Maxim Van Gils Jan Christen5 Marc Hirschi Thibau Nys Julian Alaphilippe Maxim Van Gils5 Marc Hirschi Thibau Nys Benoît Cosnefroy Julian Alaphilippe5 Marc Hirschi Thibau Nys Julian Alaphilippe Jan Christen
>5 ======4 Marc Hirschi Thibau Nys Julian Alaphilippe Maxim Van Gils Jan Christen>Slome Duikelaar>Madouas Olympic Champion>Quinde>Never watching Femmes>6 ======2 Marc Hirschi Thibau Nys Julian Alaphilippe Maxim Van Gils Valentin Madouas Jan Christen>Madouas Olympic Champion>Never watching Femmes
>>144004344only 3 people took bigcock?
>>143995383expensive. could spend all that money on two cycling holidays
>>144004479I will never ever pick pidkek
>>144004479fuck the angl*ids
>>144004512where do "people" go for "cycling holidays"
La Vuelta Stage 9 /bet/>Roglic 2.37>Mas Nicolau 6.5>Kuss 17>Landa 17>Eetvelt 17>Carapaz 21>Yatesi 29>Del Toro 29>Rodriguez 29>Dunber 34>Tiber i34>Riccitello 34>Woods 34>Soler 34>Poole 34>Skjelmose 41>Ciccone 41>Sivakov 41>Cepeda 41>Gall 51>Zana 56...>Gaudu 81>O'Connor 101
I knew I was forgetting something...
>>144004536Vuelta GC /bet/
>>144004536I feel like Gall is getting absolutely fucked by this O'Connor situation
>>144004536why is kussen still so high on this list? lease a visma has been as terrible as UAE so far.
>>144004560Absolutely, lost 30 seconds already because he had to wait kek
>>144004560Yes, but eventually they ordered to betray him
>>144004598It was a 15% climb anyway, drafting does nothing
>>144004588surely they won't do it again this stage
>>143996328Greg Lemond was offered 10% stake in Oakley and $1 per glasses sold and turned it down because he thought they might go out of business. He took 25 grand cash payment instead.
>>144004611lmao
>>144004611LeMond was promised 1$ per Look clipless pedals sold when he signed for La Vie Claire and he never got the money
>>144003586>The first animal jumped smoothly over the team doctor's carImagine going back to all his deer mates and telling them this story. and then I looked back and saw Derek stuck in the bikes haha what a nerd
>>144004534places that are good for cycling
>>144004666Why would a Spanish deer be named Derek
>>144004688Derek the deer. All deer's names begin with D. That's a fact
After almost two months of struggle, the bad case of athlete's foot I had in the inbetween part of toe 4 and 5 on my left foot - which then propagated to my right foot - is history.
>>144004747Congrats
>>144004678like where ginge
>>144004822The alps
>>144004822alpsmajorcacosta del solcosta blancacanariesdolomites
>>144004822Vosges
>juul-jensen and dillier +11:00
>>144004837>>144004848>>144004849of all these the alps and vosges sounds the best. dont the netherlands have great cycling paths? its pretty but flat (like my mom lel)
>>144004919dude where did you go for your cycling holiday? rode some cycling paths in holland lmao
>>144004919if you're gonna spend money coming across the ocean with a bike or renting a bike I would not go to the netherlandsit's enjoyable riding if you're there for something else but I would not go there specifically for cycling
>>144004919NL is fine but if you do want some form of climbing go to the area near Valkenburg, lovely short climbs
>>144004926lol>>144004934but dude...WEED!! jk.
>>144004919>Spends entire cycling holiday riding through flat poldersYes yes yes, embrace true cyclismo
>>144004942>the ardennesyou read my mind
>>144004987>taking the plane all the way from the US to land in the fucking ardennes
>>144004987you can find climbs like the ardennes in the US easily probably
>>144004999checked and based. i would cycle from the ardennes to the black forest for some cake and ham like a true amerimutt
>>144005005not where i live, theres just little hills here and the cagies are unhinged. i want to move to colorado, its kinda like the alps..
how do i get a bike in europe..should i buy one and sell it when im done, or rent it? probably cheaper to buy/sell if im there for more than a couple weeks (which i would be)
>>144005161there's a lot of rental places here which would serve you well, best to not do things which take a lot of effort, its your holiday aftr all
>>144005161You approach a junk at 1 am and say 'hey gap heb je fiets voor mij?'
If you can ride your bike all the way through the airport without falling off they have to let you take it on the plane, fun fact
Looking at the AG2R faces at the presentation, they look done forToday is the day Jefferson, a CEPEDA goes into Maglia Roja
please tell me she works for ineos merda and doesn't wear the jersey voluntarily
>>144005172every day is my holiday! im KING OF THE WORLD!>>144005193thats more my style. when i was in amsterdam 13 years ago i stayed at the movenpick hotel. i remember smoking hash on the wharf then jacking off 9 times in one day there. still a PB for me frens.
I keep ordering wine and now also cheese platters. It's over
breton classic in t- 5 minutes
>>144005286Wine and cheese? Squeak
>>144005260>t. Tourist who will fall in the canal and die
>>144005361This place looks very Mediterranean too!
>>144005286heard Georgia has interesting wine, is that true?
>>144004987>south limburgfyi the locals hate cycling tourists there
>>144005253rodriguez ultra
>>144005419They do. Look up the qvevi method. Sort of like an amber wine, never tasted something like that before. And the red wine is also good. The cheese platter is kind of meh though, does not compare to France
Qvevri. Almost got it right but good enough
>>144005419it is
>>144005253working for in*os counts as wearing the jersey voluntarily. no excuses.
Swarms of flies on my gravel ride, hundreds of thousands of them, I'm completely covered in themFelt like riding into a solid wall of bio-matter
We're now LIVE
We live in Bretagne
>Jose Bean
>>144005565You will eat ze bugs whetever you like it or notImagine the protein bomb though
our Dane in the break or is that another Juul?
>>144005591>>Jose BeanIn breton? It is not jose been.
Attaque de W*ut van A*rt
>>144005642oh well. I heard woman voice and immediately hit mute. I'm too traumatized at this point
>>144005633That's the usual Chris Juul. Know him by the cadence.
Vine, Ahmed Yates ánd Marco Soler. UAE with a new masterplan
I have seen enough. GAUDU wins the Vuelta here
Gaydu going to ruin it
>>144005717Stage wins + Del Toro top 10 would be good
>>144005717>they all get dropped by Wout
>>144005717surprise appearance of Ayuso is gonna happen
pure suffering for AG2R today
>>144005785they deserve it
>>144005785They should have played "we're still behind gall" from the start and let bora handle this kind of mess.
dsm chasse petateburning matches
>>144005380Huh that's not at all what I expected Georgia to look like
>Dillier won a Giro stageDon't remember this at all. Breakaway sprint a Deux with Stuyven? Completely memoryholed
Gaudu and Abdullah Yazidi spoiling the chances of this group, other breakers probably seething
>>144005785Just let Bora handle things. Yesterday showed Roglic is still the favorite so let them control the break or just let Yeis get 10 minutes.
poel and leemrice actually closing the gap
>>144005920Just drop them
Vuelta is a mess. Inconsistent riders are gaining a time on Roglic but blowing up a few days later. It is just a mess.
>>144006039madiot is salivating right now
3x30min sweetspot for me today on the rape machine. Too hot and humid for me, I will probably move the machine to the backyard next time to get the air moving better. Felt like I was dying of heat by the end
>>144006039
Total heatlet death
very sad that there are no live pictures yet from the Vueltathe roads they are on now i have done ciclismo on me self a couple of times, very comfy area
Oh look Asgreen is finally doing something.
>>144006112Who?
>>144006117ahem
>>144006117Kwabser Hasbeen
To think he won against this at 25 and never did anything since
>>144006213Sell your soul for a RVV win.I'd take that deal.
So I had a BIG chute. Maybe I shouldn't have taken the vodka like stuff that the guy offered me after the wine tasting. But it was free and I am Dutch so what can you do. I forgot in countries like this they don't cover up their drainage system very well and suddenly there was no ground under my feet. You surely know this feeling where you feel like you are falling for 10 seconds but it is probably instantaneously. My right elbow and leg are all fucked up but I am good. I could have been GONE, DEAD. Imagine a /cyc/ without me. Frightening
>>144006233We know Wout
>>144006295sounds terrifying
>>144006295>the vodka like stuffchacha? it's sometimes stronger than vodka, like 50%
>top 5 chutes of the tokyo olympicswhy is eurosport like that?
wakey wakey
>>144006338remember how they were constantly showing Rog humiliating Gino Mader with dramatic music. at least they stopped doing that now that he's dead
>>144006334Yeah that was it. That was strong as FUCK
this break ain't doing it for me chief, would rather have the GC fight it out amongst themselves
look, it's pogi and jonas again
>>144006355I remember that.Had some nice dramatic music too.
Lidl 1.5km ->oh no carrefourbros
>>144006155imagine if the TdF was on horses instead of bikes
>>144006329Nah the good thing when you are a bit drunk is that you can cheat death and just brush it off like whatever, let's walk on
Whys this slut get to have the flag at f1
>>144006419This is NOT good news for Future Tismbert though.
/cyc/ outdoor office today, where are YOU watching la vuelta today bert?
>>144006436>Dutch Pro cyclist
>>144004611>>144004646Greg LeMond also says he still has 7w/kg and 92VoMax being a fat guy that never rides his bike in his 60s and that if you pedal at more than 90rpm you are doping or using a motorGreg LeMond says a lot of things...
How's the team holding up for you berts? >>144006436she fucked bernie
>>144006448Greece?
laura messanger
>>144006448go down to that woman on the rock and take a picture of her pussy and post it
>>144006476
>carbon chainringsyou need to change them after every race?
>>144006476thats my gf you are talking about >>144006464northern croatia
>>144006519>no giant derailleur pulleyngmi
eurosport didn't pay attention to the thread
there was the deer
>>144006295I've fell into a small one, that just fit my leg until my thigh. I did end up with a gash on my calf, front side, that is now a scar. Similar sobriety conditions, only it was on an overgrown path.Glad you have stopped along the way, falling all the way back to Chyna, maybe without a visa, would have been awkward and troublesome.
>>144006561stalking, waiting
dopage!
the predictions cringe on discovery is unbearable.
>>144006568This was a BIG hole, I had to climb out. But I am BACK
*honk*
I keep thinking this is an english flag
>>144006658Rude
>>144006519Those Carbon-Ti rings have aluminium teeth, so they last just as well as normal rings. They do now also make full carbon TT rings, and those are pretty much single use.
Reading interviews and articles on American riders always leave me with the impression that they are (and they regard themselves as such too) like outsiders to an inhenrently non-American sport that is inextricably tied to Europe. At times it feels like one is reading the vicissitudes of a tourist discovering an art or history museum he was only acquainted with via the Internet and books or those of an intern promoted from selling insurance in a town to working for Goldman Sachs.
Meme clown team with four guys in the break.5 teams with tree.loads of teams with two or one.11 teams with nobody.
>>144006697>They do now also make full carbon TT rings, and those are pretty much single use.Absolute idiocy
>>144006455>Greg LeMond also says he still has 7w/kgthere is no way he said. don't believe it for a second
giulia believing in van etvelt
Zubeldia is riding in France
>>144006720They're meant as marginal gains for racing only. For that use case it makes sense if you're fighting for a GT GC or for a Nats/Worlds TT win.
hmmm
After two years in the Netherlands, had my first chute today. Construction zone, with turns out a thin layer of sand (thanks to the wind), and gusts of winds. Just lost traction and landed on my side, but nothing broken and could get home. Could have been much worse I guess, as I landed on the side of the barrier, and I could easily have hit my head on it.
>>144006448escaping the heat here, croatia is a little bit too much for me
los ninos son cancer
gonna wear a HRM on me next ride. what if I've been doing zone 2 all along. jesus christ a terrifying thought. probably most of my rides are zone 2 on the flats and spiking on the climbstoday I would call and easy day but still put a few digs in on the uphills
>>144006733it's in that insane interview he did on Roadman podcastGerg Lemond is a fucking nutjob and always has beeni don't believe for a second he was clean and everyone else was dopingguy has a serious personality disorder and a compulsive liar
>>144006842burgerbert jizzing in his pantaloons seeing this. his ideal holiday destination
UAE can do whatever they want now
>>144006861Looks nice, where is it
>>144006842its the week of chutes it seems. get well soon! also recovering here from me chute, think the sea water is not helping
>>144006842Looks completely innocent tooYou were wearing you are helmet, right?
>>144006910fuck sake now I have to listen to this. must have been a joke
jay vine
>>144006697what is the point?there are plenty of aluminum rings that are lighter than these
visit the alhambra please
>>144006960Soca river/valley
>>144007024Damn, and I thought I was taking long vacations
jay vine 2
should i bother watching F1 or all of this Vuelta stage?
Time to root for the coomer now.
küng suffering
>>144007097fake allah ruining things again
Well well well, looks I woke up just in time for some RAMPAShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An5hmG1aFoY
bora pulling in the pedalton with Denz
>>144006994The weight weenie rings are pretty much all noodles. The point is light and stiff chainrings. The full carbon TT rings do save some weight I'm pretty sure.
>>144006757As much as I joke about things like 3D printed hollow titanium oversized pullywheels, they are at least obviously (marginally) more efficient and lighter. What's the argument for single-piece carbon chainrings? Weight? Aerodynamics? Maybe I'm missing something obvious
they're gonna abandon o'conner, bora already doing a massive pace
>>144006842>signal
>>144007150Weight and aero. We're literally talking low single digit watt marginal gains here so very marginal gains.
>>144007076Bretagne
Don't forget about frenchbert (not vegan) getting ass hair implented into his skull
>We din't expect BOC losing that much timeFuck I miss french GCN, they're talking so much shit on the angl* one
carapaz is mentally retarded
Based Richie
What's the point of Ineos?
el Rato what are you doing
>>144007309>>144007338Losing time on purpose to get KOM hunting
kwab
>>144007352gaining time to lose time
>>144007332nice colorful bibs
Küng pas normal
If soler is on a good day, they might win from the b'reak
what is cararat doing?
nathan van gooydonck can't believe a rider attack early
Rainer who?
goydonkey might be even worse than choze bean
Küng the mountain goat
>>144007251I wonder if it's even distinguishable from zero in its practical effect. The bikes are already heavy (Speedmax CFR is 8.7kg) and the drag that comes from the surface of the chainrings must be negligible relative to everything else. But I suppose it can't hurt anything (other than bank balances)
What is retirement age in ireland?
Martinez Povidla is such a useless runner when he's not riding for himself
>>144007672He's colombian, yes.
>>1440076723 Colombians out the back at the same time
bretagne classic is on france3 for those that want to avoid josé been
>>144007732i'll wait till 30km to go
>>144007732>it actually isgood, now I don't know what to watch
Soler pas normal.
>>144007753uae going hard at it, probably will slpit before
>>144006910right I found itwhen he was 46 he did 380W for 40 minutes. doesn't say his weight but says he was fat
Dillier used to be a good classics rider before becoming grugs bottom bitch.
>>144007832he was greg's bitch first
Kung is ridiculously pas normal right nowglowing
>>144007858I thought Michi Schär was GvAs superdom since the beginning of time
breton has been absolutely shite so far
>>144007942Yep. They're about to make the catch about minute now, though. It should start livening up
CHUTE en Bretagne.
>>144007970Any minute, even
Lampi collected?
this main road up to Sierra Nevada feels like it fucking goes on forever
it's not joseph been on commentary by the way, or am I highit's a dude and a british lady
>>144008062she has an absolutely awful microphone though, turning this off
>>144008062>it's a dude and a british ladyapparently an olympian woman but idk and idc, race has been boring and they're both pathetic talking about how great litter zones are because littering is bad. like a pair of children.
ABRAHAMSEN immediately. Kek.
>>144008163man that altitude camp lasts a long time
this race already had like half a dozen of dumb chutes in the back of bunch. are they all on tramadol today?
LAURANCE better perform, he took ABRAHAMSEN spot for me.
>>144008193riding behind an ineos rider on small roads, I consider that a skill/judgement issue
>de lie as always well positioned lmao
I wonder if there's a stream in Breton language for the race
>Attaque Abrahamsen I thought he wasn't gonna perform in such a long race
>>144008316Nein
checking the climb. looks steep alright
Berts I love Carapaz
i love Granada
>>144008467Great minds think alike
>>144008346didn't they do one last year? I posted about it because it was available on youtube.
>Van Eetvelt Lennert (Lotto Dstny) has been involved in a crash.
>>144008496
>>144008547Tro bro
roglic doesn't look so good
>>144008547This year, yes. >>144008589
>>144008373Hazallanas is just the first part of Sierra Nevada
RAMPAS
matt with the facts
did bora fuck up again?
>>144008813nah
noo christen don't use all your energy
t-rex riders on the wrong road
>>144008458>>144008467this happens so many times lmao
how can people not like Carapaz, this is great
>>144006969Of course, I always pick them from https://www.helmet.beam.vt.edu/bicycle-helmet-ratings.html for maximum concussion mitigation.Was still a nice ride
>>144008928Lampy and the guy who was under him.
The streets will always respect Carapaz, a true warrior
total UAE catastrophe
>>144009024this, the anti slurper
the streets will never forgive the TDF 2021 caraRAT
so how much time will BOC loose today?
yates fears the coming carapaz
The Sheikh, alone, seeking glory for the great nation of the UAE
based fan with a water bottle for richie god I love la vuelta
give me some fresh *uck, i need to fap
35km to go in plouay. Good time to turn on I'd say
36km to go at the Tour de LidlMads has only 2 helpers left.
>>144009055literally a single climb
Sheik Yatesi, brave and alone reconquering the Emirate of Granda in the name of Allah
very sleepy. taking a nap before final climb
gall thinking about betraying o'gonner
Skjelmose looks like he is about to fucking blow
the peloton is tiny, they're gonna have a tough go trying to recover more time
why would you go solo already
Frankreich
allah timeswitching over to bretagne for the descent in the vuelta
>>144009286Pogi is in his ear
Based Ratapaz, never doubted him in my veloteam (I doubted him a lot)
Did they run out of "science" to give my boy KUSS?
>>144009366yes
>>144009366He ruined his chances when he pulled for Van aert, never should have done that
>>144009286ask BOC
LAPORTE CRACKED
>>144009410thispulling for Wout cost an entire box of matches
>>144009263He really can't climb anything longer than a couple of kms.
DE LIE looking fat + strong
>>144009427kek
jai hindley is the real surprise here
>>144009440the bull becoming a real Sagan/Grug
squeakoir going for it
Gregoire pas normal
ATTAQUE BAUDOPE
BAUDIN BROS
caraRAT is rapid
Proper racing in Bretagne
Carapaz is such an exciting rider
gregoire almost out of sightactivate G2 syndrome
alright POWLESS, my boys in pink
motodopage!
de lie is pretty good today
I know I'm late, but you get quality shit now
Grug should be there
>>144009617he can't after last year's humiliation
just unmuted Bretagne, who's this lady? I don't recognize her
>>144009617Grug gonna leadout Kooij in the EC
Pico Veleta stage finish when
our Sierra Nevada look better 2bqh
chute jay hindley
hindley shimano'd
chute hindley
why does de lie always ride with some massive gear
Van gils going all in for de lie. rip my velopoints
gwan de lie
Ben off the back on the descent?
>>144009822he's been bad lately so not surprised
tudor at the front with Hirschi and alain philippe
>>144009862I have not been paying attention
good racing thisattack after attack
>>14400908045 seconds1,5 min if he's a full on fraud
>gall
ATTAQUE MASSIF STIER
stier power
>>144009715Almost forgot he existed. Why is he even doing this race?
Stupid racing by de lie. Based
Carapaz is over
>>144009989not a coward like vingegaard
DE LIE is going to get Corted again.
>inb4 yatesi does an o'connor today
>>144010022pulling back three minutes is a success, he doesn't need a stage win right now
don't miss out on one legged and blind cyclists or that spaniard without lower limbs that would mog most of the Berts here.
>>144010075lol
still a really really big peloton in bretagne
>>144010018he's afraid to get dropped on the climbs
>>144010132yeah it's huge, top-20 will be funky
That typical red haired breton socialist boomer lol
>>144010075>moral victory cope
Did not believe in Rex nor Roi, ngl.
I gave up on F1This slurping is better
praying for a Lund win in Bretagne
based breakaway terrorists making this shitty GT entertaining
>>143988421New thread when
>>144010260>TronchonAg2r dopage
Yates about to pick up some invaluable intermediate sprint points
>>144010194lol? he's moving into 3rd overall
>>144009862peaked for spring campaign which was successful think he’s too young for a stretched out year
>laporte was dropped out of this massive groupsaddle sores are no joke
>>144010314Bert thete is an entire category 1 climb still to come.
>>144010314he gives a fuck about GChe's going for stage winpeloton gonna close that anywaythis is a FAILURE unless he wins the stage
Kinda knew LAURANCE will rather suck than reign, but can't help meself getting one big wild card in the team.
allah loses his glasses because he's a spastic that needs to look back 3 times a minute
>Tiberi goneSkjelmose vs Eeet for the white jersey now
CHUTE DES LUNETTES
ATTAQUE GESCHKE
>>144010352>>144010365come back to me after he wins the overall
BASED LAPEIRA
Pogacar fucke Yate in the ass and give him slorvaniam DNA doping
>>144010420
>>144010397I think I saw the white jersey in the group
>>144010415I ABSOLUTELY FUCKING HATE RIDERS LIKE THISMakes an entire career of TV time attacksNo resultsFUCK THESE TYPES OF RIDERS
>>144010438Very vulgar and uncalled for post
>>144010453according to PCS he is not in the group
benot pulling nys, hirschi, stier
>>144010468doesn't make it untrue
>>144010494indeed a martian landscape
What the fuck van gils it was perfect
>>144010420funny guy you are
hirschi strong
based Hershe
hirschi pas normal
Waar Chrissie laporta
HIRSCHI wins
>>144010530De Lie wants to win so bad
>INEOS pulling
>>144010559Dood since hours.
>>144010560not so fast
>>144010559dropped 30km ago
The great Matteo MALUCELLI just won this stage down in Bulgaria
>>1440105651.x merchant calling is getting to him
>>144010593nah he's got it
nice motor pacenever change southern euros
Proper motor pacing, love to see it
>tune in>Solo Adamietz with 6 minutesLol
>>144010464>No results1 TdF stage win makes you legend in Germany
>>144010494>Sierra NevadaWas it full of snow years ago?
>hirschi winning another world tour racepas normal
Hirschi wins
Has anyone here ridden in Ecuador? I'm tired of America and I want to go live like a cycling king somewhere
Cort 2nd?bro wtf
hirschi firstquick step rider (allah?) second
her/she sisters we won
This would've been Ayuso's Vuelta
>>144010692Magnier
>156%Rampas inhumanas
Mads wins
>>144010677it almost never has snow in the summer
Mads wonLIDL total domination at Lidl tour
>>144010732BASEDLidlbros won all stages then
>>144010704L0L
damn that peleton was massiveatleast thomas pidock got exposed massively again
>>144010580>>144010598What a fraud
Cort third very strange
bruh they gonna let Yates back into GC here
>>144010687A few months ago I rode along a french couple who were bikepacking for half an hour or so. They were headed to Zuleta (look it up) to sleep that day and said they been enjoying it a lot of the landscapes.
yea im thinking MADS is ready for EU dogshit jersey win
wasn't even close
dios mio
>>144010798gorgeous
seriously great racing today berts
top 10 Breizh klassikoa
george bennet srammed
idk what r they thinking giving GC back to Adam. he's the least frauded rider in this entire Vuelta roster. He's no BOC.
>>144010819INHUMANAS
>>144010858there were actual Nys doubters in this very thread
redbull dropping the hammer now
>>144010819Alto del 156%
>Guillaume Martin being Guillaume Martin, just dropping off the back
Skjelmosebros..........det slut
>Roglic dropped
RARE MAS ATTACK
>get rewarded for blindly picking my boy Cort
top 10 Lidl
ENRIC MAS NICOLAUS LETS GO
>roglic
>>144010881Would still doubt him, him and Cort doing well means it was a bit pas normal.
>Roidlic when it's not a unipuerto but an actual mountain stage
>>144010919
a Yates-Carapaz-Mas podium would be very good
>>144010971That's what the script says, boss.
>>144010941>Buitrago
GO MAS GO
cristian rodriguez stronk
>fallglicOH NONONONO HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA
>>1440108581, 3, 5Not terrible. But everyone has Hirschi and Nys. Shame Madouas and Lapeira finished so far back in the bunch
CAM ON OLDLIC
dont worry Roglic has AG2R to save himhe always gets saved by other teams
Pogi would win with 10 minutes
why use gall right now
Waar... KUSS?
>mfw the one year Mas could have won he fumble it to O'Connor
>>144011010>But everyone has Hirschi and Nys.Yes, of course, hahaha...
com on camera man we need a pain face shot of Roglic
>>144008600bertacek again the only one who pays attention
>>144011033should attack roglic
Mas is flying
lazy Germans could have shown the GC results at least before stopping the coverage. German state tv is truly Das Letzte.
Yates 10 min gap
>roglic left pissma to try to win the le tour>struggles in the la vuelta KWAB
fuck you AG2Rlet Mas go
this is like racing from 50 years ago with big gaps and lads dying one day then great the next.
god damn Mas has TINY calf muscles
Gall saving roglic GC
man pogacar would have won this fucking race with two fingers in his nose and one in his asshe's gonna regret not doing the triple
>>144011084He's going to get cought on the descent anyway.
do you think riders appreciate fans who sprays them with water or do they think it's annoying?
>>144011054I'm paying attention to the thread, you're saying I have to pay attention to the race as well?? Inhumanas working conditions here in /cyc/
>>144011106funny, if you take out pog and fishboy the field is actually pretty even
where the FUCK are the time gaps? why are the spanish so incompetent?
Wonder if this is one of those days when MAS NICOLAU goes into red for too long and suddenly explodes and basically stopsHe tends to do that
>>144011108lemond said the difference with riders today compared to him is they have no muscle. same fat but 5kg lighter so W/kg higher
mas interesante
>>144011128They're doing 6w/kg under 35 degree sun, they'll take as much cooling as they can
>>144011112yeah he could, but worlds is worth more, he'd regret not doing the actual triple crown more
>>144011128probably really appreciate it when they ask for it, probably mildly annoyed when a fan just randomly sprays them with water
>>144011183next year is literally pogacarwinslol on Kigali
Vuelta really is the connoisseur grand tour, as usual
>>144011183He could do both and you know it
>>144011137siesta
the vuelta never disappoints for true cycling fans
>>144011106Truly blessed racing
O'coomer should ride for gall
>>144011193next year is not this year where he already got the giro and tour though. I doubt he's doing the giro again next year
>Grey Van Rysel with a single red stripe on the fork rather than a full Vuelta red color job
>>144011193Ye but it's only a triple Crown if you win giro tour and worlds in the same year
if Mas can catch one of the groups in front he is really in a good position
what's it like to have a bottle of water poured over you on a hot climb? is it actually enjoyable?
I love the La Vuelta
>>144011246when its so hot as today then yes
Mas pas normalThe only one in this Vuelta who was able to drop everyone so far
>>144011246yeah, so much so that fish tried to sneakily steal pogs
>>144011246Pouring a whole bidon of cold water on yourself over 35° feels like heaven for a moment
>>144011266yeah but the water is probably warm
>>144011246like water on a hot pan
one attack from Landismo or BOC and Roglic is cooked
wow Hirschi is such a beast
Bora is such a shit team. All those climbers and yet Roglic is isolated before O'Connor.I really want to see AG2R win this Vuelta.
>>144011304hope they try it
>>144011269Vuelta podium1. BoC2. Mas3. Carapaz SOVL
hors spotted
How is yates descending skills?
washedlic?
I don't understand why they keep giving these massive gapsjust keep the break at 3 minutes like always?
>>144011359average I think
roglic sisters, what is the current cope?
>>144011326he still has LipoGOD
>>144011359adequate
>>144011383too hot for a ski jumper
>>144011383>the current copeS-still dropped Kuss
look at that virtual GCwe're so back UAE bros
>>144011359in this field good
Granada and where they are riding now is on a platue with mountains around itwhen it gets hot its like a oven, can get to 30C during the winter with a 10C difference compared to cities along the coast 1 hour away
>>144011383This is the hardest stage of the Vuelta. The rest is all unipuerto MTF where Roglic is good
>>144011368Patxi Vila tactics. You wouldn't understand
Carapaz GAINING
>>144011421Covadonga stage is Mas only hope
if they can't drop o'coomer here it's probably over he didn't look in trouble at all
>>144011437stage 20 is also brutal
They should attack roglic more
>>144011456true
Mas with Vine? I would not follow this guy's wheel
>>144011454There is like 8 MTF left, what are you on about?
Roglic saving so many matches today. Be very afraid for next week
>>144011368No strong team to control the race. It's fun to watch.
>>144011462Everyone of those guys is cooked. They would have if they could.
>>144011421kinda stupid that the rest of the vuelta is just custom build roidlic winslol
el ague no se vende
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2nyDL4DNWgOH N-
the RAT closing the gap
>>144011454yes well, on the two mountain top finish stages where he was with the gc favourites he lost 1'10 and and 46" to roglic respectively
>>144011518COME ON MY KING, GET THAT DIRTY *NGLO
>He believed in FraudlicLMAOMAO
>>144011538basado
having jay vine wheelsuck you makes you faster?
watch Mas do a Jonas on Ventouxlose all the gained time on the descent
GC looking more respectable now with Yates and Carapaz back
>>144011538
>>144011559is Mas a bad descender? I've never really noticed
what was KÜNG doing in the break today?
>>144011454rog can still do it, but it will mean gaining 30s on a few stages (without cracking) and then probably has another 40-70s on the TT
what could've been...
no mas por favor
This is a Grand Tour in 2024
Almeida could have done this too if he wasn't such a pussy
>>144011572You now have your answer. Lmao
Scary
>>144011572i think you just answered you own question kek
>Mas descending
holy shiti don't call that bad descending i call that an elite save
imagine being a such a shit descender even Jay fucking Vine looks better
FUCK MAS
>>144011585good enough
>>144011572
jesus that was an insane save
wew YIKES, but amazing to not chute
excellent save
Another disk brake lock up during a descent. Just normal disk brakes over 30° shit
lucky lucky motherfucker
if that gravel wasn't there he would probably have died
>>144011585cararat being duped into doing a useless top ten gc
Insane save>>144011630Also this
>>144011572he became worse after some chutesnow he just has no confidence descending
MASSIVE fuck up
can Mas not chokejust for once
>>144011572kek
am i a better descender than mas or is a bad pro descender still better than any amateur
>>144011604He got lucky that space was there for him to lose speed or he would fall from the mountain
>>144011659Depends, do you race?
>>144011659I don’t know senpai do you also descent at 80km/h?
>>144011659you'd lose 8 minutes on this descent
Waar time gaps?
>>144011659the worst wt pro is surely better
>>144011630rim brakes will make a comeback within 3-4 years
>>144011659bad descender is Zakarin. even he would be top amateur level
>>144011659A lot of berts would turn into Pierre Latour trying to follow the peloton
>>144011674please understand that there is no internet in this no mans land
>>144011674they show them as a pop up for some reason
man almost got SRAM'd to death
>>144011684I don't even try to follow the boomers on the group rides
MAS rallies on!
>>144011679Pog is gonna ride the rim C68 next year for some stages (those that matter). He's gonna make rim brake cool again
>>144011701fuglsang tier save
>>144011659'bad' at descending pros are still insanely fast i see some on some super horrible dirt road descents near me on strava and i have no fking clue how they all fly down that shit at 10mph faster average speed than everyone else
>>144011701Fuglsang did it better.
>>144011701wtf, he doesn't even touch te brakesscary stuff
>rapeman avoiding mas wheel nowsmart man, I'd keep my distance too
>>144011701he didn’t do anything wrong purely mechanical why is there never an honest debate about this when a rider dies it’s always muh safety they never talk about the shit sponsored gear
we gonna need some motorpace for MAS
>>144011701Vine must have been scared as fuck lel
>>144011679Good, ideal time to buy new bike then
>>144011731He did. That's why he lost the back wheel.
>Spanish GPSFor FUCK's sake
>>144011731if you break there it’s completely over full frontal on the face
follow me Jay I know a shortcut
What is jay doing?
>>144011769>Lance showed me this trick once
RAT losing time nowSheik has this in the bag
>>144011769He took the off-ramp
So it's now normal that runners attack with 100 km to go, get 5 minutes and then lose nothing at all at the end
no one uses motors [ ] some people have used motors [ ] the entire peloton is using motors [x]
>>144011788Praying to the Zwift gods
>>144011788he’s a very bad bike handler
>>144011795GPS is absolute bullshit
>>144011804He lost 2 minute on that climb
where the fuck is my heli shot of Alhambra
>>144011701Holy shit
>>144011820It is, I doubt el Rato lost 30 seconds on the descent
Mas already lost 30 secondshe and Vine will be caught
>>144011817Of course, so why even try to follow a dude fighting for GC and that barely chuted 10 minutes ago.
>>144011804he lost time, even on carapazstop drinking
>it's SkjelOver
>>144011701what causes something like that?
I like yates more since he's joined his fallow sheiks, he just seems more relaxed and at home
>>144011847ROGLIC actually wins the stage on burnt matches. He knew any time taken would be lost on descent, especially against GOD descender like RODRIGUEZ CANO.
>>144011701at normal speed
>>144011872it never skjelbegun
>>144011872he’s saving matches
Fun Vuelta this.
wtf 900+ replies on a vuelta thread, is this normal?
>>144011905it's been a fantastic stage
>>144011874front brake lock up probably
>>144011905
>>144011905Vuelta is the /cyc/ grand tour
joining UAE was a good career move for adam yates
Palestinian hero yatesi wins
Kek all those Palestinian flags again.
insane win from the Sheikmashallah
>>144011918from overheating the brakes and then death gripping the lever?
>>144011946Booooo
>>144011874Front brake lockup. The main cause for descent crashes since the arrival of disk brakes
lol fraudu in the group Mas
>>144011899it’s so clowny I think it’s because there’s not enough quality doms controlling the race
>>144011905no it's because of all the other races today (Bretagne, Lidl Tour, Bulgaria, Bohemia, Himalaya...)
how do I get a job as Pally flag waver? free holiday watching the vuelta
grand tours with no aliens is the best
>>144011946inshallah
>>144011918>Locking the front brake makes the rear tire slide outWhat a fucking retard
met carapaz ben je nooit klaar michel
O'Connor burning matches
cararat +1:39 (-6 seconds bonus seconds)
>>144011972They do it for free
Mas all that effort for nothing
Yuck, hugging sweaty men.
>>144011559fucking knew itrip MASRoglic once again saved by another team
>>144011972emigrate to Palestineillegally re-immigrate
ataque desesperado de Mas
>1:39really good from Richie
>>144011948I'm sorry you have to see this.
>>144011989of course they don't. someone is at least paying for hotels and travel
mas such a dogshit brain weakmindhe will never win anything
>>144011989they literally don'tthey get paid by NGOs and shit like Soros foundation
o'coomer wins 2 seconds
O'Connor with the bonification...?
>>144012011just because Andalusia is poor as fuck does not mean you have to cheer for other poor people
>MAS caughtthe lad waits his whole career for an attack and then he chooses this sort of parcour
Roglic is cooked
O conner takes the seconds
unironically this is the best grand tour I've watched to date.
boc +4 bonis
O'Connor increases his gap on Roglic!
Yatesi still out of breathfeels good to watch actual humans race for once
Quintana status?
>>144012033today looked like his jour sans he wont be this shit later
Benoit with the bonis.
>>144012054dropped on the first climb
roglicsisters.... our response?
did van eetvelt crack? didn't see him in that group
so after all that Mas fucking lost time
inshallah
>>144012063
well well well
>>144012071yes
>>144012063he will take a minute on stage 21 TT
>>144012063Matches saved, please pay attention
>>144012071wasn’t he mentioned in a crash
double BAM
>>144012063Restocking matches
waar cat shooter?
Rumor is AG2R is flying in a jiffy bag from France right now
>>144012063>have bad day>don't lose any timeI call this a win for Roglic
cant wait for the BOC smuggies
I have seen enough. O'Connor wins easily
GC
>>144012129phew those times are fucking close
>>144012107Got dropped even before the last climb I think.
>Enric Mas was the fastest rider on Hazallanas today, he did it in 23 min 40 sec, around 20 sec slower than Chris Horner's record.
>>144012129>the great Davide GAUDU has entered the Top 10
what a top 10
Skjelmose and Kuss +5:35. Van Eetvelt +7:21 with Squillaume and Bennett. Tiberi nowhere to be found
>>144012178Skjelmosebros we in the white jersey?
>>144011823Did you like all those shots after the race ended?
>>144012129
>>144012178eaten alive by stray cats
>>144012196good
>>144012187nothey where lame
>>144012185ofcourse not dude, Lipowitz was in the main group
>>144012185
Almeida would win this wouldnt he?Fuck
>>144012191>I could've competed for the yellow jersey>I would've won the vuelta against vingegaard and roglic if we fought for itlol, lmao even
>>144012225No
>fuckin'based Yates
>>144012129Mas launches his biggest attack in his career and is rewarded with losing a spot on GC.
Yates fucking win a stage
Don't see Ocoomer losing this. Just ride his own tempo with the help of Gall.
>>144012177good top 10. good race. more respectable than this giro
>>144012191
>>144012259That is somehow extremely fitting for Mas
Yates roid raging
ok so next mountain stage we give the following riders 7 minutesKussVan EetveltSkjelmose
>>144012222another version of dudeweed innitor is that dudeopium
Went for a ride today around my hometown, this mountain is where the stage 19 will end. Unfortunately I have to work that afternoon (Friday 6th) but I'll try to be at the place where the stage begins.
>>144012310it’s all downers innit
I have BOC hair
>>144012271There are 7 tranny finishes, roglic can win 30s in each + 60s in the final TT. That's 4.5 min. It won't be easy, but it's doable
>>144012332based
>>144012338
>>144012345>Roglic canFraudlic won't.
>>144012332It looks like Portugal
>>144012271he's gonna get cocky and attack himself only to get dropped and mentally crack
>>144012310dudecaffeine and dudeparacetamol
>>144012372it's like twenty km away of course it does
>>144012372iberia all looks same samey
>>144012271>with the help of Galluhoh
>>144012374if Mondo Duplantis had a stroke
>>144012374looks like the very opposite of caffeine to me 2bh
>>144012332Vgh so bautifullIberia soul
>>144012374>>144012430>german humorplease work harder on your material
>>144012387But Flanders and Wallonia are like night and day, innit. And don't get me started on the Britons/French.
>>144012473youre literally danish my man
>>144012360I just gave a realistic plan, I hope rog gets fucked in the ass, but it is still by no means over
>>144012332Are those grape plants on the right?
>>144012478
>>144012478that doesn't really work when you are posting like you are.
Still no Tiberi after 22 minutes lel
BAke
>>144012496dane
>>144012505is he alive?
>>144012505him, arensman and cian are all fight for the white jersey right now
>>144012474Indeed Wallonia is far prettier than Flanders
>>144012505he was attacked by feral cats
>>144012478kek
>>144012520Uijtdebroeks in already! +25:17. 2 minutes behind W*ut
>tfw you will never shoot tiberi with a pellet gun while wearing a cat costume
Best GT stage of the year so far? Or still Plateau de Beille?
>>144012547Troyes
>>144012541moral victory for us Cianbros
>>144012545Why not?
I like happy O'Connor
lol
>>144012572cause I'm a coward
>>144012599Has lidl's bags gone bad?
>>144012599And DNF Martinez +31:52, GREAT helper for Primoz
>>144012621No. The Fat One is just hoarding them
>>144012599I'm not up to date on the gamershart lore, why is he so dead and whats he even doing in this vuelta
>>144012652Because he sucks, Bert. He always has
the time limit is gigantic but some big riders still missing
>>144012688Del Toro... My boy...
I don't like the current Bretagne Classic. It lacks a hard climb somewhere. Current parcours makes the race unclear and doesn't deliver a memorable race
>>144012701+35
>>144012717No hard climb in bretagne
>>144012726So waar is Tiberi. DNF or they missed him somewhere?
>>144012717>doesn't deliver a memorable raceyeah, today was awful. I had to think for a second about who won today even. very sub par for a WT event.
>>144012749him and arensman still have like 20 minutesprobably group groves if they didn't die of heatstrokeletting arensmeme ride again was a mistake anyway from the team
>>144012671ah yes its that simple
>>144012732Or make it a circuit around Plouay like it once was
>>144012760No Arensgod will win a stage in the third week
>>144012760Yeah, they should allow thyme man die in peace. Now he has made it to break day he is probably going to carry on.
>“I clearly didn’t have the legs. I had back pain,” Roglič admitted to the international press immediately after the finish. “It was also still warm, really tough. But we’ll see how that goes. I suffered. The stage was very difficult, but luckily it’s over and tomorrow we have a rest day.”crocked back bros
>Roglic: "I had a hard time today. I obviously didn't have the legs, I had back pain...happy to finish and have rest day tomorrow."It's over
>>144012782>but luckily it’s over Yeah. It is over
Arensman +37 with GrovesTiberi beyond 43 minutes, probably dead
>>144012641my smartest pick
>>144012803Another covid patient? That's a huge loss if it's just an off day.
is he gonna make it
>>144012816Who is the other one
>>144012782Nothing some tramadol can't solve
BREAKING: TIBERI AND TARLING DNF
>>144012828tarling
>>144012846Rog has been surprisingly lucid this race. Its clear he's lacking something.
>>14401286140°C climbing stage must be literal hell on earth for an anglo giant
>>144012861surprised he even made it this far
>“To be honest, I don’t care about the GC. Today was all about the stage. I just went flat out. We had nothing to lose, I just suffered until the finish.”based fuck GC
>>144012943is that translated? he said, "I don't give a shit about GC"
>>144012966cleaned up for the articles I guess
11-25 is still a lot of strong runners
>>144012943>I-I d-dont care about t-the gc anyway lolweakminded shitter and pogi has to please this?
veloteam down to 6 riders its joever
>>144012997not really
>>144013044Ouch. And I tought I had it bad.
>>144012997I see a lot of crap
>>144013001>best Yates picker 15still time
Before the stage there were 2 teams with tree casualties.Now there are 8.
>>144013118Welcome to hell on Europe (Andalucía)
>>144004666>>144004688fun fact - first deers name was desu
new thread >>144013284new thread >>144013284new thread >>144013284
>>144012484There's lots of vineyards here in Rioja, yes