>>97252348
So an operative in vantage is basically untouchable until they've taken a shot and then lose their conceal?

>>97252165
Page 60 of the core rulebook states

>As Vantage terrain is also Light, an operative on Vantage terrain will often be in cover from operatives lower than them — imagine them crouching down to gain a cover save or avoid being a valid target.

So the rules for drawing targeting lines from one operatives base to another still apply

>>97140366
You can download the rulebook here and check for yourself

>>97139724
Friend wants to get into KT with us and wants to play custodes, but as far as I can tell they no longer have rules, is that true?

>>97256295
Brah custodes are from like 2015 edition.
See the "Brief team summaries" catbox image for what's available. Then look up classified teams

>>97255792
Well, theoretically.
But if what's protecting them is just the flat roof itself, then anyone with an equivalent or higher vantage point can just counter-target them as if they were out in the open.
And while it's usually not enough to have a spotter to target concealed enemies because they'll be hiding behind heavy terrain, vantage is only light, meaning that any team with a readily available seek light option can just shoot it.
Plus, they need to get up there. And stay up there. That's both a prerequisite movement to set up the threat, and a limiter on where they can target enemies. Combined with healthy amounts of heavy terrain, it can be surprisingly hard to get a shot that you couldn't instead have gotten from the ground just as well.

In practice, high ground is more for use to create area denial and niche situations. A vantage point that actually is as good as all those juicy benefits sound is usually a sign of a poor killzone setup.

>>97256295
Yeah, custards were outed with the 2024 edition. Not an option without homebrew. Plus, they never made for particularly fun games, the other player just dumped all killing power into one target and then played hide and seek the rest of the game to win on points.
If he was interested in them for their elite nature, he could look at: raveners, deathwatch, stealth suits, or wolf scouts. All of those are 5 man teams (though some have an extra pet unit or two). Deathwatch especially are a close likeness to what custodes should have been last edition, and are excellent for a beginner to boot.
If it was for a different reason, the OP image that summarizes the teams is probably worth consulting.

>>97250936
>>97253495
>>97253900
>Be Sergeant Ivana Semenov, 74465th Valhallan, Recon company 32E
>”Quarantine Zone A” is becoming stranger by the minute
>Aside from the Nurglish critters, pyro cultists, insane Guard, and Greenskins that we have encountered already, we also have a few run ins with “Bimbo Necron” and “Khornate Bimbo Necron”
>And now there is also a wave of garishly decorated vehicles travelling through Zone A driven by the “Lost 69th”, or as most people on this planet call them, the Slaaneshi
>The official story behind the Lost 69th is that they are feral nomads that descend from one of the many regiments that were left to die, I mean stationed permanently with limited support, on this planet a few centuries ago. They found lost cargo containers full of Candlemas themed goods, sex toys, and vehicles, and now roam the wastes beyond the Exmus Mountains
>I guess that is a good enough story to keep the civilians off the Lord General’s back about making truces with them, but no one who has seen them up close can fail to notice just how excessively degenerate they are, or how many mutants they have in their ranks
>I watch a truck with poor suspension full of well tanned, nearly nude, and large chested women speed by
>Feral nomads my ass, wherever they have been for the past few months has a lot more sunlight than Nordica II gets
>A large daemon engine lumbers after the truck, knocks it into a wall, then uses large mechanical tentacles to grab the women and toss them into a cage on its back
>I heard there were lots of daemon engines appearing at the Blood Bowl game after I left, and I guess they are now here too
>I sigh and call it in
>It is not like this seven way fight needed an eighth player, but at least they are mostly fighting each other

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>>97238100
>Be Ranger Bunni’Viie Lemallyn
>The cheerleading is going fantastic!
>I can’t really remember now why we are doing it, but it is really fun, so why not?
>The Slaaneshi cheerleading squad has come onto the field now that their team is playing
>They are a little underdressed, in many cases completely undressed, but to each their own I suppose
>And their dance routine has a lot less waving and jumping and kicking, and a lot more shaking and thrusting and licking, but the crowd seems to enjoy it, so why not?
>Any time there is a gap in the play, we compete with the Khornate and Slaaneshi cheerleaders to see which squad can get their section of stands to make the most noise
>The Slaaneshi seem to be winning, which is mildly unfortunate, because no doubt they will put their crowd motivating skills to good use anytime their team needs a morale boast while playing the Eldar team
>I guess we will just have to redouble our efforts and try a few new things to see what gets this crowd going

>>97252804
>>97254040
>Be Cummissar Analstasia Van Gina of the Schlick LXIXth, formerly Vanessa
>Priscilla tells me all sorts of interesting things as I watch the Slaaneshi-Khornate Blood Bowl match
>So the Inquisition, or perhaps the Alpha Legion are spying on my operations on Happy Ending
>Mildly concerning, but not that surprising
>The Inquisition in this Sector is stretched very thin and rarely gets anything done, but they still have lots of spies and always seem to know more than they should
>No idea why this Space Marine would come all the way from Happy Ending just to retrieve Priscilla, perhaps he thought she knew something more than she did
>Probing Priscilla’s motives and desires has also produced some interesting results
>A low key hedonist who kept her more carnal desires suppressed because she thought they were beneath her station, and had dreams of advancing her station by taking credit for the hard work of others
>There are definitely a few similarities with Vanessa here, who, although more hedonistic than Priscilla, also kept them well hidden out of concern for appearances. And Vanessa also was ambitious, though she clawed her way up from the bottom unlike Priscilla. And both women are willing to serve those they were taught to hate in order to get some measure of protection from this nightmare that passes for reality
>All in all, Priscilla definitely has potential to be my new lover/servant, much like Dixie took Vanessa under her wing
>I am not sure Priscilla has what it takes to achieve daemonettehood like I did, but if the time we spend in Slaanesh’s Realm does little more than reduce Priscilla to a sex addicted bottom girl, than so be it, we can never have too many of those in the Schlick anyways
>For now we will stay here and watch the Blood Bowl games, but I already have a few things in mind for when we get back to my bedchambers in Slaanesh’s Realm...

>>97252704
>>97252657
>>97254530
>>97228987
>>97256110
>Be Shisrak the Chill Bloodletter
>No matter how much good advice I give to the Khornate team, it doesn’t change the fact that daemonettes, large beastmen, and Space Marines are physically far superior to even the largest of the near-human mutants on my team.
>At first we were only losing slowly, but we have taken so many losses from the game injuries, not to mention the firefight at the end of the Khornate-Orkish game, that we have run out of substitute players, we even used up all the Khornate cheerleaders, medics, and other support personnel, plus the few tribesmen who were given no other role aside from watching in the stands. Now forced to rely mostly on unskilled players, who are even weaker than those they replaced, we start losing much quicker.
>I decide to intervene directly and recruit a few Bloodletters and Khornate leaning Space Marines to the team who have at least some familiarity with the rules of the game, and then I teleport them, and myself onto the Khornate bench.
>On the next line change, I bring my new recruits onto the field and we start blocking more and more of the Slaaneshi team’s plays, and even start making a few of our own.
>My opposing number, a beastman with two sets of genitals, starts calling all sorts of fouls to buy his team more time to change tactics.
>I “accidentally” knee him in both groins, resulting in several wet popping noises.
>He is too stubborn to get off the field, but is also no longer as inclined to call so many fouls with his now high pitch, cracking voice.

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>>97256358
>>97256336
>>97252657
>be Spencer
>now of the Schlick LXIXth's blood bowl team
>ill say this for the Alpha Legion there is never a dull routine mission
>ive been in a few plays so far but i keep looking for an avenue to get benched so i can get closer to the box and ergo Priscilla
>part of me wonders if this is worth it for one easily manipulated human woman
>why did i even choose her on happy ending?
>for all my carefulness i should have just shot her in the face when i found her naked and covered in genestealer guts and cultist gunk
>so why am i still here?
"you know why."
>oh the lost primarchs have mercy im being haunted by Durus's voice
"she's lucky"
>"bullshit, she falls ass first into every cult on happy ending"

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Thinking about the fact that Hondo Ohnaka once got into sword fight with Anakin Skywalker and escaped unscathed

Thinking about the fact that Cad Bane once got into sword fight with Obi-Wan Kenobi and escaped unscathed

Thinking about the fact that B1 battle droid gay sex with hats on.

>>97256277
>Jango Fett being pals with a Noghri, despite Noghri not leaving their planet until years after Jango's death, the entire concept of "Jedi Royalty"
It's stunning how I read this and almost immediately guessed it was probably Karen Traviss who wrote it.

>>97256217
I don't know what went wrong with Wendig, he wrote some really good tabletop material with Werewolf: the Forsaken but that's not relevant here

If gods/religion was real, obviously women would be preferred to be the one being priests.
If you were a deity of whatever the fuck, which one would you want?
Fat greasy retards?
Or pretty women (also retards)?
Plus in a world where you can invoke miracles by sheer faith alone, women would actually have an use rather than being dead weight.

Simple as that: in a world with magic women can actually be useful.

>>97254880
As opposed to male priestess?

>>97255022
>women in clergy was limited although not rare
That depends upon the era Anon. Deaconesses in the Early Church are well attested. While very controversial, there may have been priestesses and bishopae in the first five centuries. It's controversial as evidence is not unambiguous in identifying function as being that of deaconess rather than of priestess, lack of written records for the first several centuries, the Council of Laodicea forbidding women serving as priests occured before date of the controversial evidence, and the Second Lateran Council forbade ordination of women including to the diaconate

Note that this is a formal meaning of clergy whereas in D&D the role of cleric is informally treated as synonymous to priest. If we were to examine the situation nowadays, in the Roman Catholic Church only men may be priests and deacon is typically only ever a stepping stone on the way to priesthood, some Orthodox churches have begun ordaining deaconesses, but other churches routinely have deaconesses, presbyterae, priestesses, ministeresses, bishopae, and so on.

>>97255610
>This is very wrong. Catholicism had nunneries, sisters and Abbesses and female saints since practically the start.
That is very wrong. Not one of monk/nun, friar/sister, hermit/hermitess, abbot/abbess, cenobite/cenobitess, or saint in any way indicates the existence of any clergy let alone female clergy. Canon Law, not historically rigidly enforced, was passed requiring abbots to be priests but it was not a requirement in Canon Law, and is not required in the Rule of St Benedict, and historically lay men, not even deacons, were commonly abbots.

While a nun could be a cleric in the old days being a cleric was never a requirement for being a nun any more than nowadays a monk has to be a cleric.

tldr;
women were deaconesses from Antiquity to High Middle Ages
deacons are clergy but are not priests

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>>97256104
Do you think that's going to catch on?

>>97255022
>Weren't ancient greek and shinto priestess glorified cheerleaders with no real power inside religion?
That might be a bit true for Shinto since in that religion the males and females did very different things but as regards the Greeks that answer is definitely no. The role of Greek priestesses had significant overlap with that of priests and they wielded significant power both within and without their religion as well as having rights not normally available to women.

>>97256096
What more do you need. The rulebooks are almost all the exact same format and not rocket science for anyone that ever held an encyclopedia. If you need to have your handheld through a meandering watchitplayed rulebook it isn't the genre for you anyway because a CRT will make you rope

>>97254961

Yes both in my top 10, though I'd obviously play marine at 4. Only do normal DS at events due to how long it takes.

Similar game with vertical action selection and area control would be empires:age of discovery. Criminally underrated game which has always gone down amazingly well with tense agonising final actions. Currently out of print but there's potential for a new kickstarter (albeit with horrific new art style)

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>another publisher closing up its own online storefront and merging with allplay
Are they becoming too powerful?

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GMT PRINT THIS FUCKING TWILIGHT STRUGGLE ANNIVERSARY EDITION ALREADY! THE ACTUAL ANNIVERSARY IS ALREADY OVER IN A COUPLE OF DAYS GODDAMIT!

>mfw there are games that have been stuck in P500 for 5~7 years now
>mfw Twilight Struggle 20th Anniversary is only 14 months old
It clearly works for them, but fucking hell, people might have died of old age or out of a terminal illness while waiting for a game they were hyped about to get out of P500.

>>97256430
I buy there shit but I also keep saying in here almost weekly now: they are deeply unserious and unethical. Expecting them to do the "right" thing for their customers is a pipe dream

Look at the hannibal game. The two guys making it had their wives DIE around the same time and they kept going and making this game over so many years. And then of ALL the shit that just sits on p500 doing nothing, GMT pulls THAT one and send them to another publisher. The convicted child predator couldnt have taken a moment to have done right by those two when border reavers is still on p500 and they give such a ridiculous amount of spotlight time the the dogshit ARC for some reason

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>>97252898
>1) What does the character have in their pockets/purse?
His raping kit
>2) What does your character do on a Sunday?
Rape
>3) What was the best birthday gift the character received?
People to rape
>4) What does the character think about the policies of the mayor/leader of the community?
They should be raped
>5) What is the character's handwriting like?
Like that of a rapist
>6) What is the character's favorite color?
Rape Red
>7) What tics does the character have when they need to sit still for a while?
He's just gotta rape

>>97252563
>First, take away his character sheet.
lol? if someone tries me like that I'm swinging

>>97256267
An asshole surrounded by assholes.

And if you read something like knights of the kitchen table, or that skit about attack the darkness, or watch The Gamers, it kind of seems like that was basically everybody who was playing.

>>97256429
>if you read something like knights of the kitchen table, or that skit about attack the darkness, or watch The Gamers, it kind of seems like that was basically everybody who was playing.
The regular players and DMs were just playing games as usual and didn't feel the need to write or blog about it.

>>97256423
That's ok. You start swinging, I start shooting. I still win.

Stupid nitpick, because it looks cool. Use your fucking imagination.

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I've been using this model for Huron for a long time. The new one will be on 60mm, won't it?

>>97253069
>said the shitskin with no internal monologue

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>>97254501
Abaddon is on 60mm. Huron will be on 40mm like the generic lord.
If his base was 60mm he would be gigantic, picrel.

>>97254865
Wonder how long it takes for the size creep to catch up to Abaddon have him to start looking small despite being in terminator armor.

>>97249535
GURPS is for faggots and videogames are for troons.

Only one of them is a Heritage-American and so only one of them isa right, Miriam Godwinson.

>>97249535
Where do you think you are?

>>97249616
>reading the actual written fluff is wrong and I'm going to be extra salty about it
lol good job

>>97221448
Its been a long time since I've played the game, but I'd say Lal, Deidre, and Miriam.

Lal was trying to keep things together. This was humanity's last chance and the mission had gone sideways the moment they arrived.

Miriam was fully aware of the transformative nature of the technologies they were developing, and raised concerns over carelessly accepting them.

Deidre didn't want to see Planet go the same way Earth did, and tried to integrate humans into Planet's ecosystem to mutual benefit.

The rest were just continuing on as normal without a care.

Colonel 'I love guns' Santiago wanted her knockoff spartans even though there was little reason or benefit to starting a war with anyone.

Morgan saw a new market. Full stop.


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>>97254569
Drop a link on mega.

>>97254569
Because of the hack about 8 months ago. I guess you've been working too hard to notice.
It doesn't really affect the share thread because other people's stuff was uploaded to file sharing sites anyway. Does make the share docs more awkward to get though.
Gofile seems to be favourite these days, but mega is fine.

>>97254569
Not a problem. Drop the PDF in catbox.moe, they take anything, and the links are whitelisted on 4ch.

https://catbox.moe/

>>97254569
We all know why you posted this disingenuous thread. Next you'll act dumb and pretend to be unable to use the alternative hosting methods people gave you, because you don't HAVE a game and just wanted to be a whiny bitch.

>>97256290
NtA
But thanks man!

>>97184072
Lots. Also new archetype that lets you tap into draconic power, and a better draconic acolyte (disciple). The ones in the codexes are covered along with a bunch of others. Also, you can play as a tiny dragonet. Pearl dragonets are ridiculous and ask for punishment. Archdragons make regular dragons tremble in fear. They also explain why there are only three age categories.

>>97183880
If you knew how many ugly assholes managed to get hot girls in bed, you'd understand.

>>97218759
By definition, as described under "unarmed attacks" bites count as unarmed attacks, so they qualify for the powerful fist ability.

"Certain ancestry feats, class features, and spells give access to special, more powerful unarmed attacks. For instance, goblins with the razortooth heritage can attack with their sharp jaws."

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>>97189848
>>97190019
It's amazing how many people fail to realize this part.

>>97256144
Draconic Acolyte isn't really Disciple. It's pretty clear that Dragonblooded is where you go for all the "be a dragon" feats like Scaly Hide and claws. Acolyte is more like a Final Fantasy Summoner or Lyria from Granblue, more about calling a dragon spirit and using that. It's cool but I rather have a real Disciple remaster over needing to take an heritage slot.

>>97246128
Covidwuzacold?

>>97255685
turn 1 sunken citadel
turn 2 golden saucer, make a treasure
turn 3 try for treasure again or discard carnosaur as removal
turn 4 dragonstorm, hits mother lode, hits thunderous debut, hits carnosaur + etali, stack triggers, carnosaur hits dragonstorm, hits season of weaving, copies carnosaur x2 draws a card, hits dragonstorm + thunderous debut gets herald and kylox and hits dragonstorm hits herald
attack with kylox, sacrificed all my creatures exiled my entire library, cast 3x jidoor, 2x zanarkand and put perennation on herald
pass to opponent who has like 8 cards in library and facing down hexproof indestructible herald

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>>97255744
jank queue matchmaker is disturbingly accurate
it will figure out if you're on a starter deck and put you against starter decks, that's easy
but it will put pure meme decks against pure meme decks
it will put slightly sweaty "this deck runs meta cards like badgermole cub but is still retarded" decks against the same

downside is a LOT of strange mirror matches
ex green ugin ramp will somehow match against green ugin ramp and neither player can exile anything

^bots

>>97256208
I’ll run into people blatantly using their Brawl decks which can be fun

>>97243189
I genuinely wonder, is this the worst card in Magic history?

>>97243215
I'd rather play something that sacs lands for an actual benefit.

>>97254176
It's one of the worst creatures for sure. However there are still worse cards because wood elemental has power and toughness and can theoretically help you win a game. Cards like Break Open and Mudhole are worse since they effectively do nothing.

>>97256088
I can see Mudhole being a narrow gravehate card against some land-recursion decks like the ones that loop Wasteland or Glacial Chasm. It's not the *most* effective at this but I can see it being useful at its role.

But yeah, Break Open is worse. At no point would you actually ever want to do this, face-down creatures WANT to be turned up.

>>97243189
>sac for 0
>free death trigger
As Richard Golagarfield intended.

>>97256250
I keep seeing stuff like this and never actually know what theyre talking about.

Its a completed game, the rules got made finalized and released for free. I dont get it, is it because it didnt beat warhammer? The franchise that has 30 years world of books, videogames, model ranges, rulesets and fanbases that grew up with it? Come on man. Play somethinbg other than Warhammer, theres a lot out there like TC and its such a shame that everything just defaults back to comparisons to them.

>>97256274
No it's because they released nothing besides a rushed rulebook, a bunch of images, and broken, low quality models. It's just the same old thing when a new company has a golden opportunity in their hands, then aggressively shit their pants and throw it away that keeps happening for some reason.
Also, notice at no point I've made any mention of 40k and yet you still brought it up for some reason. It sounds like you're the one with a chip on your shoulder here.

>>97256274
Watch out for the concern trolls. They infest this place. Keep a lookout for the signature phrases, like rugpull and astroturf.

>>97256189
Obligatory new thread update on the Companion.

We've managed to push the campaign out before the new year, luckily most errors are just things that are supposed to update live, but require a reload, so we'll be able to very quickly get to work on our next major app update: Play Mode.

Essentially our plan is a digital tracker to help keep things sorted while playing a game
> Track whats been activated (ie, single-use items, CONSUMABLE equipment, TOUGH keyword)
> View your active warband with all the fluff (campaigns, buttons to add stuff, empty selections) removed
> Track victory conditions and glorious deeds
> Post-game helper to let you quickly gain Glory, gain ex/skills/injuries/etc

If there's anything else that seems fitting for this feature - feel free to let me know.

>>97256313
It sounds less like theyre throwing it away and rather you wanting it to die because it wasnt a 10/10. I hate this mentality anon, I want more tabletop settings and games, we arent going to get that when people piss and shit as soon as one gains traction but isnt done to a standards worthy of prestige.

Not even saying there wasnt problems, but holy shit is it blown out of proportion.
>liked seeing everyone making their own models and getting creative, they also found uses for those 3rd party STLs that you would otherwise never have a use for
>NO the official STL prints were from a bad distrubutor fuck this game and fuck the developers and their shitty rushed rules that took 3 years, it shouldve took 10 like a real game
This shit is depressing, Im not even defending the bad stuff, but jesus christ tabletop as a medium is fucked because of shit like this. Seems people just want to buy merch, not make something themselves for a game.

>>97255327
yeah I am suggesting mode changes and alternate forms might be what dual cards are with conditions to go into them
which have typically been lvl 7 cards now.

or is there something else you seemed to misunderstand?

>>97255530
How would it interract with dedigivolve?

>>97252599
Aces can can comeback once they stop making retarded otk decks that dedigi or remove anything left on the field.
At this point I wonder why they bothered making Aces at all.

>>97255565
the same way as any other digimon?
as per the effect, you trash the top x cards of a stack.
"<De-Digivolve> is a keyword effect where the player declares a number from 1 up to the number specified in the effect, then the declared number of cards are trashed from the chosen stack(s) of cards starting with the top card. This is shown on cards using text such as <De-Digivolve 1>"
I don't understand the confusion would be.
they don't even need to be different levels, its just a digimon card that is two digimon that it changes between based on criteria being met or not

Anyone have a barbamon decklist? I've been seeing them lately in DCGO and it's fucking annoying having no hand, so I want to do it to others.

>>97250804
Alright I actually looked through, that is adorable!

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>>97250887
Heres one pal theres quite a few actually might be taking pictures all day haha
I really need to invest into a camera this phone is chapping my ass

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>>97250887
Another for you as well sorry ended up drinking again got very distracted

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Chillin