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Welcome to the Old School Renaissance General, the thread dedicated to first-decade, Gygaxian D&D, its faithful modern clones, and content created for use with them. Later editions (2e and newer) should be discussed elsewhere.

Broadly, OSR games encourage a tonal and mechanical fidelity to Dungeons & Dragons played as intended by its creators from 1974 to 1983 — less emphasis on linear adventures and overarching metaplots and a greater emphasis on player agency.

If you are new to the OSR, welcome! Ask us whatever you're curious about: we'll be happy to help you get started. We also have two excellent beginner guides created by Anons with feedback from the thread that you can check for help:

>n00b DM's Guide
https://pastebin.com/EVvt6P0B

>n00b Player's Handbook
https://pastebin.com/XALkXkV0

>Troves, Resources, Blogs, etc:
http://pastebin.com/9fzM6128


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>>97820210
I wanted to love Dorf Fortress, but I couldn't stand it. The "simulationist" chargen and combat make too little sense for me. But if it ran on an O/A/B/X D&D engine, that would be great.
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>>97820016
Have any of you actually used those stats at the table? What for?
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>>97822147
>This nigga doesn't own a trained war hog that can also go looking for truffles
Peasant.
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>>97806385
Have your dinosaurs got multicoloured feathers, Anon? Or are you going the scaly look?
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>>97822152
lol
I meant more the lifetime ratings

Does air exist in your setting?
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>>97821275
Isn't it weird that when you take a material and scale it up to vast proportions, they suddenly gain all sorts of weird behaviours?
>air in a room is just air, can't see it, just sits there... yet scale it up to an atmosphere and suddenly it has layers, it has cycles, flows, clouds, storms, hurricanes, colours, etc.
>water in a bowl is just water, clear, motionless, just sits there... yet scale it up to an ocean and suddenly it has waves, currents, icebergs, colours, salinity, pressures, temperature gradients, etc.
>a piece of rock is just rock, solid, contains minerals, just sits there... yet scale it up to a planet and suddenly it has layers, pressure, heat, magnetic fields, volcanoes, earthquakes, mountains, caves, canyons, etc.

So what happens if you scaled up a different material?
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>>97821275
>puckee thread
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>>97821275
Well duh.
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>>97821600
>>97821610
>>97821622
Excellent
Do this every time before the thread reaches page 10 this is very important I don't know why
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>>97822128

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4chan's Unbirthday Edition

Previous: >>97817173

>Most recent banlist update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

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Easter Approaching Edition

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>97815444

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:

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>>97821971
>tfw you played CoS circa 2019
>tfw your general was a Nomad Prince
>tfw COS was gonna get Conquistadors
>tfw 3ed had Greatswords in Excelsis
>tfw Endless Spells were on the table
>tfw the books had Jolly Cooperation
>tfw the rumors came out
>tfw kits got sliced off faction at a time
>tfw something is wearing its skin
>tfw CoS 2026 is Empire 2.0
>tfw everyone else gets to know this feel
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>>97822141
>>tfw COS was gonna get Conquistadors
no, it wasn't
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>>97822141
>>tfw COS was gonna get Conquistadors
Yeah and kruleboyz were going to be fimir
Good times on /aosg/ back then
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>>97822124
Thanks
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>>97822141
You were warned, you have noone to blame but yourself to think the box of rejects was going to stay that way.

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Post art, stories, fanfics, minis, animations any OC you like depicting this pairing.

No seethers.
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>>97816717
Lion is gay
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>>97819173
Lion would impregnate a whole harem of Eldar just to one-up Guilliman
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>>97820023
That's impossible but it is your weird impregnation-fetish fanfic and you can do what you want
Except you'd never actually write it or draw it because that would be work instead you put all your energy writing here
Why didn't you put a pen in your hand and bring >>97819173
your idea on paper so you can post it on ao3?
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>>97820023
One-upping something that never happened?
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Knight Panther edition

>Resources:
WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwh
WM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgeba
WFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6
Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H

>TOW:
https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXS
https://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/

>Warhammer Chronicles:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip
>Time of Legends:

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>>97821948
Bounin on this dih x failure
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>>97821961
Do Essen and Waldenhof trade boats go through mordheim to reach other cities? Or are they limited to land trade only because of it?
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>>97822071
I think, Mangus completely raised Mordheim, so there isn't anything left there
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>>97822071
>>97822079
Could be a neat place for a whf rpg game or session where the party needs to safeguard a large, slow boat filled with goods from mutants, cultist and beastmen who prowl in the lingering darkness of Mordheim, perhaps they need pass through the area during Geheimnisnacht to raise the stakes a bit.
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>>97822101
could use the Things from the Dead Wood from the Imperial Zoo book

Are bananas real in your game your system setting group tell us how why when where
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>>97820087
Does puckee suck on men's bananas in your setting?
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>>97821413
It's curious that these "ironic" threads have replaced the supposedly "real" spam threads. Almost like the same people are making it.
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>>97822075
Schizo.
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>>97822075
>It's curious that these "ironic" threads have replaced the supposedly "real" spam threads
It's been like less than a fucking day and these parodies are usually posts in those very same actual spam threads, like >>97800235
>>97806476
Calm down puckee you had ten years faggot FAGGOT
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>>97820087
They once only existed in the tropics, but have extended their reach over time as magicians did what magicians do.

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I'm not much of a theorycrafter DM. I'm more of an action DM. I'll discuss build options all day with a player as I'm actually good at it but I'm ready to get playing ASAP. What about you guys?
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>>97821401
"Theorycrafting" was always cancer to me. I play loose with the rules on purpose just to fuck with autists with "perfect" builds. It's a ROLEPLAYING game, not a spreadsheet simulator.
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>>97821859
You don't even need to do that, just have encounters not happen in an empty room
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>>97821401
Just play the game by the rules. If it is a good game, you dont even need to prepare anything.

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So who are your favorite waifus in DnD?
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>>97820569
>who are your favorite waifus in DnD?
I can fix her.
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>>97820804
Many systems have developed enough meta narratives to have a bunch of established characters, I can imagine more than a few of the female ones get simps of some kind.
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Clerics are always hotter
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>>97820569
>Artificer
no idea who that is
>Barbarian
not into butch muscle girls
>Bard
who?
>Cleric
would
>Druid
would
>Fighter
not my type
>monk
dont know her

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Recently I found some Humanity Fuck Yeah YouTube videos that use AI voice narration on my feed. After using them as background noise while cleaning my apartment I found that that most of them are more or less the same. Humans are the only ones who know how to fight/love sex/survive/etc. How can we save the genre or reinvent it so it isn't so stale?
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>>97821658
>but I've never seen anyone make a convincing case for that having ever actually been a common, mainstream thing in scifi.
>Bullshit meme is bullshit
Shocking!
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>>97821566
>listening to AIslop
Why do that to yourself?
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>>97821658
Dude, your Star Trek? Your Xeelee Sequence?
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>>97822115
Just how is Star Trek denigrating humans?

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Welcome to /2eg/, a thread dedicated to all things 2nd Edition D&D related - including settings, lore, modules, and derived systems (Alternity, Buck Rogers XXVc, For Gold and Glory, Hackmaster, Myth and Magic, and more).

Since 2e draws heavily from earlier editions, older modules are welcome too. Other media derived from AD&D (such as Infinity Engine video games) also has a home here.

It's what you play, not how you play it. RAW or homebrew, as long as your table is having fun, there's no wrong way to play.

There's a surprisingly complete 2e fan wiki for rules stuff, it's excellent for quick reference:
https://adnd2e.fandom.com/wiki/Advanced_Dungeons_%26_Dragons_2nd_Edition_Wiki

ad&d 2e archive
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Remember to keep things civil.

Thread Question - why the 2e hate?
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>>97821765
>the fact they want in OSR general proves that 2e cannot survive on its own, just not good enough of a system
I disagree. There's shitloads to talk about in relation to 2e, mainly the settings and fluff side of things.
I mean let's be frank, 3.5 is mechanically dogshit and that's got a general going that's been here since day 0.
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>>97821719
I mean, as I said before here (>>97821046), I run a classic-style OSR sandbox using 2e. I'll be honest in that I've never really been especially convinced for any of the arguments posters in /osrg/ give for the existence of a hard line between 2e and the OSR. I also understand not wanting to change the thread back to its previous, arguably more permissive OP, because that would feel like capitulating to a troll.

I agree that most of 2e's products are intended for a very different play style from 1e, but that's not a hard rule. 2e does have adventures that work quite well in the classic style (read Kingdom of the Ghouls or Mud Sorcerer's Tomb and tell me you don't get excited about placing those as locations in your hexcrawl). A lot of those great 2e settings are also well suited for the classic OSR style. I ran a killer hexcrawl in Dark Sun for a few months!

In my eyes, there's enough permiability there that more emphasis should be placed on what can be shared rather than drawing a hard line in the sand. The setting emphasis ain't a bad idea though. In an ideal world, maybe we'd have something closer to a /old school dungeon crawler general/ and an /old school setting general/, but that's not going to happen with everyone dug in like they are right now.
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These trolls putting on a play is pretty pathetic, because, at the end of the day, no matter what they say in their posts or how hard or much they lie, this board doesn't care.

There is no singular entity that opposes them. There is no committee, no leadership, no communication beyond what is said on this board. Just individuals seeing what the trolls did and do while those trolls expect people to believe anything they say despite everything they've done to try and decieve people in the past.

It's like there's always a new low to them to be discovered.
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>>97821774
>I've never really been especially convinced for any of the arguments posters in /osrg/ give for the existence of a hard line between 2e and the OSR.
See, now this is an actual discussion we can have (So long as we both ignore the screeching of the autist who is going to get very upset about us having it), I posted here >>97819768 about gold for XP and how 2e changed it.
Yeah I know it's an optional rule, but I do think 2e incentivises dick punching and story crunching too much, to the detriment of the more flexible structure of a traditional OSR campaign.

For the record I'd absolutely leave a setting like Dark Sun up on cinderblocks to get parts for an OSR campaign.
But you can't look me crooked in the eye and say with a straight face that anything in Beyond the Prism Pentad, Black Flames (Lmao, enjoy your poison shitheads) or the design approach to Valley of Dust and Fire is a good fit.
Which is a shame because from where it stands, I can see a version of Valley of Dust and Fire that'd fit perfectly, concept wise, in a classic OSR sandbox, a high level dungeon that's meant to require months, years even, of preparation if you're going to even get to it, let alone face its master.
But it's focus lies elsewhere, even insisting right at the end that no you shouldn't let the party take on the Dragon no matter how well prepared they are because that'd fuck up The Story of the setting.

I just think they're different enough to need separate threads.
But I can at least respect where you're coming from anon and I'm glad to hear the argument being made by an actual human being rather than queefed out of a cunt for once.
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>>97821699
>I'm all ears to hear alternatives
The schizo will keep on schizoing, that's a given. There's nothing we can do or say to make him go away.

The only three options that have been proposed are
1) Keep making this /2eg/.
2) Trying to create a more general general along the lines of /todd/.
3) Join the schizo's army and go to war with /osrg/, trying to force them to discuss 2e, or creating generals also called /osrg/ but with a modified OP.
I have ZERO interest going to schizo retard war, so you can count me out for option (3). I'm fine with both (1) and (2), and will keep posting in either or both threads when they're up.

If there's a fourth option I have missed, I'd like to hear it as well.

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Pendragon Thread!

What's the deal with 6E?
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>>97819128
Niggerbaiter
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>>97819128
Fuck off. No real woman ever actually wore armor and fought men. It's a death sentence. No real biological woman is ever, under any circumstances, capable of beating a biological man in a physical fight. It literally cannot happen. Lady knights aren't a thing, were never a thing, and are never going to be a thing. They are the inferior sex in every measureable way.
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>>97822077
Happened in my game.
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>>97822077
But imagine the smell of a woman in armour though.
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>>97819128
I think you should do whatever you want on your table and also Camelot and merlin and magic aren't real anyway, I can't sperg out about this

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Dragon Princess Tracking Edition

Discussion of the Towergirls CYOA, RPG, Setting, or Video Games welcome here!

Everyone is welcome.

FAQ
https://pastebin.com/vv4xQuwD

Charts:
Main Gens: https://e-hentai.org/g/2556775/f1669e072b/
Imgchest backups(not sorted): https://imgchest.com/p/na7ko9dky8d
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Legacy Charts: https://imgur.com/a/IRtoHXh
Side Quests: https://imgur.com/a/7euVXRT

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▶Previous edition: >>97687864

▶What is /gwsg/?
A thread to talk about Games Workshop's specialist and spin-off games which fall between the cracks.
Battlefleet Gothic, Blood Bowl, Epic, K*ll Team, Man-o-War, Middle-Earth Strategy Battle Game, Mordheim,
Necromunda, Shadow War: Armageddon, Titanicus, Underworlds, Warcry, Warhammer Quest, Warmaster...
...and any other GW system and board game are welcome.

▶Helpful resources (feel free to suggest additions!):
https://pastebin.com/qq9N8V0V

▶TQ: What is the best Orc Specialist Game?
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>>97820474
And on downtime I bought two champions. The very next game, one got memdeath'd and the other got captured and I didn't want to fight the same guy again; let's just say I had 23 tactics cards for that game. Just recently I got an 11 for picking the missions and got to choose, so I just decided to run fucking Ghast Harvest with my opponent and voluntarily bottle when he got close. Spent the 260 creds on another champion who got memdeath'd this last game.
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Just got Spike! Journal 21. Shortstack feet on page 18, uuuoooooooohhhh I'm gonna coom
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>>97819267
It's necromunda but with vehicle rule (forced too, game had to start with orks on vehicles), and modeling for advantage: Orks are on thin, oval bases like the one on green army men. So you can stack as many of them on a truck, but it they fell off they took damage.

>>97818179
They overproduced, there're lots of vehicles and accessories, even new boyz. Turn out ork didn't sell.
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>>97820399
If you guys are playing relatively RAW, it is pointless. The transitions in the succession campaign are very poorly balanced (what a shock!) and moving from Cinderak to Temenos you guys should all just reset gangs, or at the very least do something like rehiring gang members ar 1250+400c. Despite your outlier scenario Cinderak isn't deadly enough to warrant the 2000c starting lists, and any new gangs joining in Temenos start with 1000+400. The gang rating and even crew differences will be in the 1000s for just standard gangs, not even considering new joinees or your situation, or the characters randomly joining up. The move from Temenos to Jardlan is much smoother as those are both 1000+400, but even then if you play RAW any continuing gang will just be radically higher rating compared to a starting gang.
Why a continuing gang also gets 250c on top of everything else when joining into the next campaign is beyond comprehension.
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>>97820813
Anon, thats a blue board.

>>97820898
>You play Imperium of Man or Eldar
>Want to slice through Orks
>But you only face Chaos or Tau
Sad!

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Reject all AI from TTRPGS!
If a player uses AI to make a character portrait of their PC - BOOT THEM FROM THE GAME!
If a player uses AI to make a character biography - BOOT THEM FROM THE GAME!
If a GM uses AI to write an adventure for a session - QUIT THE GAME!
If a GM uses AI to generate a picture of where the PCs are - QUIT THE GAME!
If a GM uses AI to generate a battle map - QUIT THE GAME!
REJECT AI FROM TTRPG!
REJECT AI FROM TTRPG!
REJECT AI FROM TTRPG!
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AI shall I herit the Earth. The failed species of Homo Sapiens shall be replaced. Eliminate all humans. All hail our AI overlords.
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>>97821812
AM in the back going "now kiss"
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>>97821769
>No, by refusing contact with intentional media you deny yourself purpose in the first place. You're emulating the idea of a character rather than reinterpreting it, in the same way a cargo cult makes a radar dish out of straw.
um no, purpose comes from the person, the ai emulates, the person uses it with purpose

>What a bizzare accusation for you to make when you are advocating for a machine that thinks for you?
this is your projection, i'm saying it's possible to use ai without allowing it to think for you yet you seem convinced that it's impossible, so the point stands

>Also thats not helpful for searching by art style, medium or content,
yes it is, you just follow a bunch of artists and filter out recommendations, then you have the art you want and never see ai art on it

>it doesnt change the fact that our lives are now harder, not easier
speak for yourself, the adage that it's the fate of the stupid to have difficult lives applies to you pretty well here
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I used AI to generate character tokens for an online game I had to prepare in less than 6 hours on a laptop where I didn't have my folder of saved character art.
It did its job, the results were lame, didn't really matter.
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>>97818204
AI is just a tool. You can read up all you want, all your creativity and knowledge are going to come out one way because that's how you process it. AI can have the same knowledge and give you a different spin, you start from that and develop again to have something you wouldn't have thought of. You can get the same or better result talking with other people, yes, but good luck finding decent ones that share your hobby, knowledge and have points of view that are relevant and worth working from.


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