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>TQ
https://scryfall.com/search?q=t%3Alegendary+t%3Aartifact+-t%3Acreature+legal%3Acommander&order=name&as=grid&unique=cards

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Oh my, everyone has their commander on board? Would be a shame if they were to...phase out permanently

>>96648889
So Walking Ballista or Blightsteel Colossus?

>>96648891
>noncreature
>legendary
Could you at least pretend to be literate?

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>>96648895
>The spacecrafts and space stations are also a pretty neat concept
They really are but I wish they'd been templated differently. The concept of "tap a bunch of creatures to slowly power up a big special creature with cool effects" has enormous scope both mechanically and in flavour terms, but they've pidgeonholed it into being just for spaceships- the type of card is spacecraft and the mechanic is station, and that feels like a huge missed opportunity.

>>96645110
Update on this, I think bald baseball cap guy might be Robert Red Beard MTG

>>96648908
Sir, we play Magic here

>>96648914
I feel the same way about Warp and Start You Engines.
Warp is so generically good it could seriously come back in a ton of sets, just like Adventure did. But they called it fucking Warp. Probably to tie in to Star Trek.
But there’s no excuse for Start Your Engines. I don’t actually like this one mechanically, but holy shit they named it as if they never wanted it to come back in the first place

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What is YOUR favorite Grixis commander

>>96648924
I think "Warp" is adequately generic since it does have to mean you're doing something weird with space and time to leave to exile and come back. Warping isn't inherently technological, plenty of magic can warp, Eldrazi of Kozilek's brood were defined by their ability to distort space.
Just treat it as somebody doing aether bullshit.

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Reminder.

>>96648965
Did you choose grixis for this thread because it’s le evil genius colors?

>>96648966
I know “evoke” is already taken but they could have called it something like that. Educe? Awaken? Manifest is taken too unfortunately

>>96648965
t-the one who makes Karnstructs ;-;

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>>96649020
Awaken is also already taken unfortunately

>>96649043
Godammit. Why do we have to have a new keyword every fucking set?

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>>96648965
Rrrrrrrats

>>96648965
Not a big fan of Grixis because I hate having a blue identity, but I suppose Don Andres, the Renegade for the "you can't win if I play your goodstuff" strats.

>>96649061
>I hate having a blue identity
Very childish.
I would say my least favourite colour is probably red but I still have red in decks. My monored deck is actually one of my favourites, as is my gruul deck. My boros is one of my least favourite, but I'm building a mardu

Eat your vegetables

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

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>>96648883
>Post cards and combos with the most potential for E V I L
We're done playing

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>>96649067
Ridiculous assertion. I don't like playing blue. I don't like blue's strategies to progress within the game. I don't enjoy blue's primary methods of interacting with the game whether remaining stable or reclaiming lost momentum. Including blue to not perform blue functions is self-defeating and pointless. The idea that this is somehow "childish" is absurd.

>>96649061
Blue is the most fun with clones or polymorph big stompy decks.

t. Gruul player who recently built a Jalira deck and enjoys it.

>>96649089
Childish, yeah.

>>96649089
Blue has so many mechanics that it does indeed sound childish. With green it's somehow overwhelming value, it has coastal piracy effects to reward combat, it's the primary colour for proliferate, you can copy and polymorph creatures with it. You don't have to play counterspells, there's much more to blue.

>>96649089
>Can't control his monkey brain enough to not have to throw in counterspells
Sounds pretty childish.

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>>96649082
I don't think that's nearly as evil as you think it is.
Stuffy Doll can be exiled, and every color except red has enchantment removal. It's a neat board state to build but just uno-reversing damage isn't that evil unless you have a plan to deal 40 damage to yourself or something.
There are cards that are much easier to prevent damage too, like pic related + necrodominance or necropotence

>>96649089
I agree with this guy >>96649189

Having a least favorite color is fine, but saying you "hate" having blue in a deck? It's just silly. There's enough variety of commanders out there that you can find one with blue that doesn't do the stereotypical blue thing. Like group hug pretty much always being bant.
Simic, izzet, azorius, and dimir all play so different to each other I don't even know what it is that you think a "blue strategy to progress within the game" is, drawing cards??? Lord knows the other colors have that. Green in particular has absurd card draw, it just happens to be tied to creatures/enchantments entering or the power you have on board.

>>96649089
EXCELLENT post

I'm this close to pulling the game changes from my bad decks and using them in Bracket 2

I ponder, does a pod need to be mentally in bracket 2 or 1 to consider the good therosian gods oppressive or did the precon powercreep made the decks fast and reliant enough that they just leave them in the dust

Do you guys try to make your deck all foils, or does the Pringles Effect™ prevent you from doing so? I'm thinking about slowing going for a full foil deck, but I'm worried it will curl like a motherfucker and/or not fit in my Satin Tower.

>>96649448
I always buy non foils just cost foil cards look like shit

>>96649461
I guess I'm a sucker for the "ooooh shiny" effect then. The only foil I hate is the etched ones because for whatever reason, they're REALLY dark. I got lucky enough to pull an etched mana vault, and it kinda looks like shit due to how dark it is.

>>96649448
for whole 15min i wanted to keep my yshtola fully foil but it's too much of a bother to get extras only because of foiling and doublesleeved she already doesn't fit some of the "133+" deck boxes, innitially i thought it's just the air but in the end it might've been the foils

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>>96648890
How does this keep them phased out? Someone just has to play a board wipe and the Out of Time creature-enchantment is gone.

You want something even funnier like Disciple of Caelus Nin, and then you want to sac your own Out of Time while they are out.

>>96649505
Speaking from experience, it's absolutely the foils. I have a Ultra Pro Satin Tower that DOES fit ~105 cards (no foils) when doubled sleeved with dragon shield mattes and inners (not the resealable kind). BUT if my deck starts getting more foils, it can get stupid tight. I'm really torn too, because I personally love that Satin Tower and I fucking hate any "soft" cases, but I really need to move to a bigger storage solution if I'm going to go all foils.

>>96649531
ultimate guard satins are good fit for fat decks but they tend to accumulate grime over years and sure you can clean it off with pink stuff but that's just part of the upkeep now

>>96649044
That is how the game works little zoomie :) you clearly don't like (or even understand) magic and its history. Stop playing.

>>96649067
What a godawful post its a game not nutrition, I dont play colors i dont like. You have this pseudo mature larp going on
>things I dont like? Heh well im an ADULT and us ADULTS we have to do things we dont like sometimes >=)
Like what? Its a game. Kill yourself.

>>96649530
>How does this keep them phased out? Someone just has to play a board wipe and the Out of Time creature-enchantment is gone.
Lmao. Come on bud, work through this with me.

>Out of Time enters
>in response, Zur turns it into a creature
>Out of Time resolves
>Out of Time phases out all creatures
>including itself
>it is treated as if it does not exist
>it can never have time counters removed
>it can never be targeted by anything
>it can never be destroyed by anything
>it can never be exiled by anything
>it
>does
>not
>exist
Neither do any other creatures on the board when it resolved. They're just gone

>>96649530
You turn it into a creature with the ETB trigger on the stack, it phases itself out and once it's gone there's no way to bring the stuff back.

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I have given up on this bad boy, until i realized, i can make a bootleg infect/wither deck with him
My villan arc begins now.
Ill hear any recomendations, toxic is welcomed too

>>96649560
>I DON'T EAT FOOD I DON'T LIKE!
Dino nuggies and potato waffles for the 3512th night in a row, sir?

>>96649588
>>96649587

Oh yeah, that sort of play would get you called a huge fag by everyone at the table.

So if I want to do comfy graveyard stuff in Junk I basically have to run Karador right?

>>96649587
Congratulations on building a Sunfall.

>>96649601
>herp derp well at MY tables we'd call you out because we're all such confrontational and confident people who get mad over card games!!!!
I literally played it at my LGS and posted the greentext here. Amazing, no one was Mr Big Balls McToughguy and everyone just played the game.
The player who told me it was rude to say that I could do a play but wouldn't was pretty huffy for the rest of the game, but I think he learned a lesson about thinking before he speaks

>>96649619
Nah, I'd call you a fag for it and then make sure to target you for the rest of the game, because that's way funnier.

>>96649655
>this funny and novel interaction would cause me and my pod to sperg out
this is not the epic own you think it is

>>96649710
Anon, there is nothing funny and novel about removing everyone's commanders permanently for that game. Most people will just groan and be annoyed.

>beat someone with bracket 3 deck at table
>he says "Man, I knew I should've played bracket 4... then I would've won."
rofl is this how sweats think?

>>96649727
depends how the loss went
if for example someone cut out nearly all tutors and replaced them with jank cards that didn't work out, the idea that they could won if they had those tutors instead of jank in their hand is not unreasonable

>>96649619
>The player who told me it was rude to say that I could do a play but wouldn't
That is a huge faggot move though. I don't care what plays people make, but as soon as someone pulls the
>Uwu I COULD make a good move, but I'm such a nice guy that I won't :)
Then it's barely even a game anymore

>>96649727
Bad players don't know how to run decks below bracket 4. My win rate has exploded since I started building to brackets 2-3. I generally tell people "play what you like" rather than do the faggy bracket talk. Because if you're the kind of person who feels like busting out a CEDH deck, that's just an indictment of you as a person.

But players on average want to match your power level. So they'll bring out their own three and get their shit kicked in, since they're not used to playing at a lower level.

I've had players get sulky too. They generally bust out their strongest deck next game as if to teach you a lesson... then lose again because they aren't that good to begin with.

>>96649717
>Most people will just groan and be annoyed.
And? Losing a game often makes people groan so why is this any different?

>>96649735
I agree, it's usually done by people running combos or interactions they personally think are 'funny' but genuinely know are just annoying, obnoxious, or make the game less fun to play. Like >>96648890 for example.

This is the kind of player who thinks Deadpool the Trading Card is fun to play with.

>>96649727
actually, yes
>vivi "bracket 3" sits down with two other semi-regulars that play with slightly upgraded precons
>cries about how his deck is totally fair and not going to explode on turn 3
>I've played with all 3 of them before so I sit down
>remove his vivi every turn
>remove his ozolith
>remove all his boots and protection
>remove his birgi, urbrask, and storm kiln immediately
>stop his draw cards
>"ah man if only i could draw, you guys would be so dead"
>manages to soul bond his vivi, draws 10 cards and does 25+ damage to the entire table
>"haha now thats a lot of damage"
>win on my turn 12 because everyone is tapped out
>"ummm actually thats a two card combo and you're playing a pubstomper deck"
>"I'm going to bring my yuna deck that can win on turn 5 if you bring two card combos to my game"

>>96649801
Based to shit on Vivi, cringe to play 2 card combos.

>>96649600
Correct. Why on earth would i eat food I dont like? You have a childs view on maturity.

>format where you can build ANYTHING
>play cedh, the format where everyone plays the same x decks and strategies
????

>>96649587
This is really not as impressive as you think it is, it's mostly just really obnoxious.

>>96649867
Blame WOTC for trying to push the commander power levels constantly and also ruining the other formats that compfags would go to play instead.

It's kinda similar to what happened to Team Fortress 2.

>>96649867
That not true though

>>96649873
CEDHfags are a freakish majority and even casual players known to look upon them with scorn.

>>96649867
I see the same x decks and strategies on casual edh too so I don't really get your point

>>96649655
>>96649717
It was, in fact, quite funny.
Like I say, the only person at the table who seemed annoyed about it was the guy who basically dared me to do it
One guy won more or less because of it (probably would have won anyway honestly, but he was the only one who didn't have his commander on board when it happened), and the other kept mentioning that his deck is low power and doesn't work without his commander but otherwise took it in good spirits.

It sounds like you may have some kind of defect.

>>96649735
>That is a huge faggot move though. I don't care what plays people make, but as soon as someone pulls the
>>Uwu I COULD make a good move, but I'm such a nice guy that I won't :)
>Then it's barely even a game anymore
Then I guess you're getting your commander permanently phased out then. I greentexted it a couple weeks ago but it basically went

>playing Zur in command zone
>haven't drawn an enchantment I can play in 3 turns
>my turns have just been casting a non-enchantment and passing, or casting nothing and passing
>draw into Out of Time
>no reason to play it at all
>"Ah man I need enchantments...the only play I can make just fucks us all..."
>"Just do it then."
>"Uh...like I said, it just fucks us, it doesn't help me win..."
>"It's rude to say you can do something and not do it. Play the game"
>"Oooookay..."

If you're the kind of person to get mad at people thinking aloud or not following through on things they say they can do, there may legit be something wrong with you. You have a very aggressive mindset and seem to be angry about people pulling punches.

>>96648965
Sedris, the Traitor King. I'm a boomer PreDH player

>>96649910
That's because Timmies are stupid and gravitate toward tribal and value piles. Nothing to do with casual play itself.

>>96649884
theirs is a specific kind where now you have "tournaments" but with no way to allievate e-celebing or things like optimizing the sitting order
>>96649910
i'd rather eat the bad fotm/edhrec netdecks over playing vs blue farm "but its totally original as i have 1 pet card in", meanwhile japs went back to tooth&nail/march of ents/creature combos that you can't really interact with on stack

>>96649915
>permanently phased out
>it's an O-ring lite effect
Ok

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>>96648965
Don't have one. This nigga looks fun I guess.

Can we all agree "brackets" is a retarded system and we should try other ways to balancing tables like a point system?

>>96649801
What was your combo?

>>96649915
I agree with the guy in the story. As long as it sets you back less than others, do it. Maybe you can make a case for waiting a turn. But generally play to win.

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Why do you guys hate/make fun of him? Do you hate having fun?

>>96649067
I agree with you entirely. Red is objectively the worst color in commander but I'm not going to stop playing it as a splash color. People who refuse to play blue at all because they want to endlessly swing until they die have rocks in their brains. Also, blue aggro decks can be great. And artifact strategies? They put blue in this linear "draw card, counter spell" box that isn't totally accurate. I just urge people to try blue, you will grow as a magic player

>>96649052
Noice, do you go pure rats or do you do some fuckery to make huge explosions

>>96649955
What do people dislike about this guy? That he's too easy to build around? There's a lot of stupid shit you can do with him.

Animate Aetherflux Reservoir and give it lifelink for the funny.

>>96649955
i love this little nigga like you could not believe

>>96649027
you mean Dr. Robotnik?

>>96649958
People dislike blue because most people splash blue for obnoxious counterspells and cards like Cyclonic Rift that never feel fun to be on the receiving end of, and because WOTC are retarded and made Rift only have 1 blue mana pip it's easy to put it in any deck you want.

Blue is also the color that gets access to the most things that are genuinely broken bullshit, like permanently keeping lands tapped/phased/etc.
People also dislike Blue because it basically is the other player going 'Nah actually I get to decide if you get to play that card or not' and it's genuinely not fun.

>>96649955
It made my table fight over layers like an hour and involved the entire lgs trying to make a ruling call

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>>96648965
Still Jeleva. The deck's in the bin since she's kinda shit. Eats removal like it's nothing. I don't think I've ever won with her.she's kinda hot tho.

>>96649925
>have severe autism
>make posts in this exact same way every fucking thread
ok

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>>96648965
Marchesa, the Black Rose, is still probably my favorite, even if she's quite popular. I loved Conspiracy draft back when I played regular MTG, and all the funny ways you can build Marchesa make her very appealing.

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>>96649960
So many creatures that make rats are not rats, so I run pic related

>>96649052
give me your list nigga

>>96650001
No the list is mine-mine!

>>96648965
I like Kess, simply because it's a karador ability but for instants/sorcs and double dipping some cantrips is already good enough

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>>96649996
I wanna build but my main interest in the activated ability of Wick

>>96650006
MOM ANON WONT SHARE HIS FUN DECK

>>96649988
>literally ONE of those is me
ok

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>>96648965
I really like those two massive abilities she has

>>96650046
>it is sheer coincidence that 8 posts in 4 threads have had the exact same fingerprint! it could be anyone!

>>96649818
>>96649942
my deck: https://archidekt.com/decks/16371884/fair_godo
his deck: https://archidekt.com/decks/16371438/low_power_vivi

>>96650054
You people will goon over anything

>>96649935
Canadian highlander

>>96650054
If this was a modern MTG card it'd cost 3 mana and be a 3/3 instead lmao

>>96649935
Why would i agree to that when my lgs has had great success with the system

>>96650054
TETAS

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>>96650061
Based for using living weapons Dalakos with a polymorph package.
Cringe as fuck in that it's just a combo with Godo, back to the drawing board chud.

>>96648965
Nekusar
I have never once played him because it's impossible to make a Nekusar list that doesn't make people want to kill you and piss on your corpse, but he's still cool and based

>>96650098
I started running it because of him, I usually have graaz and gilgamesh

>>96649977
Those are the selling points. Adapt or die. Play your own interaction. Know your meta and adjust accordingly. Don't like stax? play krosan grip, uncounterable winter orb removal.
Noone cares that you made a bracket 3 deck that only plays vampires until a propaganda drops and you lose.
If you cant recover from a cyclonic rift your deck probably sucks because those get overloaded late game where you should have built up resources.
Also, most decks only have a few counterspells and at a table of 4, have to be extremely selective where they place them.
Phasing is barely relevant and as we can see in this thread, has become a white mechanic. Nothing wrong with stopping your opponent from winning and most of the time, when something has no etbs, countering a permanent is the same thing as using a removal spell. Black and white also say I decide whether you get to keep your creature

>>96650104
Because of polymorph into Godo-Helm? imo that feels like just running Godo in the command zone with one more step.

>>96650115
>play your own interaction against the color that gets better interaction than everyone else for every single type of interaction

>>96650128
yes, I have a turn 10 combo, that can be stopped by killing godo or the helm, without using excessive ramp spells, because of players thinking their do-everything commander deck is actually low-power because they only run 3 game changers

>>96649988
>posting style that is incredibly common on 4chan is one person
>trying to create a post history like reddit
Embarrassing my guy

>>96650159
Once you've played the game for a month or two you'll understand.

>>96650058
>4channers totally aren't parrots who repeat everything they see
ok

>>96650241
>>96650250
Samefag.
Also
>i-i-its totally common! everyone does it
lmaooooooooooooooo scurry from the light little cockroach

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What commanders got that toybox feeling where you never know what fun you are gonna get each game

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>>96650257
>>96650250
>>96650241
All me

>>96650267
Any theft commander

>>96650167
>turn 10
Come on now. You can do this shit way earlier than turn 10.

>>96650159
Just buy a fucking cavern of souls then dude, all your shitty tribal creatures will at least be able to hit the field before you get completely outplayed because you're not good at the game. Everyone Ive played with that "hates blue" mentality has been a weak player and a shitty deckbuilder, so don't blame the cards, it's probably you.

>want to build Kilo because he's cool
>contrarian brain won't let me build popular shit
uurrgghhhh

>>96650159
Counters arent really the best though as they are incredibly limited in when they can be played. If someone plays a threat I can draw into removal for it. I cant draw into a counter with it at any time but then.
>>96650257
I mean its so common I genuinely thought you were going to link to some of my posts and not this mystery character you've conjured

>>96650257
I think you're trying too hard to get replies and have stepped into the realm of just acting retarded
Please refrain

>>96650281
don't steal toys from other people anon :(

>>96649603
No, retard. Sunfall exiles, meaning they can return it to command zone and play it again. With Zur+OoT they can't do that. Their commanders are just gone and they can't get them back wth any game action.

Though as >>96649873 pointed out, denying people access to their commanders isn't the game-winning slamdunk some people think it is.

>>96650061
you are both cringe in this case

Which do commander players like doing the most?

>Playing Commander
>Theorycrafting Decks they'll never play
>Shitting themselves over Universes Beyond

>>96650339
Ive been called out and I feel very uncomfortable right now

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>>96650339
>Theorycrafting Decks they'll never play
Low test mentality, simply build the deck

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>>96650267
People hate them because it forces people to think outside they learned flowchart, but mill/stax decks bring the best games

>>96650339
I like B. I do not like the Gathering aspect of magic generally.

>>96650267
Any commander that makes you roll dice I guess

>>96650339
>build a new deck
>its shit
>go to my good deck
>win
>go back and redo the shit deck
>repeat
the shit deck in particular: >>96649595
i swear this time it will win games

>>96650267
I find Temur commanders to be the best at that. Pako and Haldan, Maelstrom Wanderer, Intet the Dreamer (my recent love). Cascade is the definition of "what are we gonna get" while also being extremely powerful.

>>96650339
Number 3 easily

>>96650339
>>Theorycrafting Decks they'll never play
Unironically? I don't see how this isn't more fun than actually playing Commander.
When so much of the appeal of MtG comes from the complex rules and the exciting sandbox of interactions between cards, the only actual fun element from adding other players into the equation is getting deck tech from them. Spending 3/4 of any game (barring instant speed) watching three other dudes jerk off their own personal flavor of dinosaur is not a fun or interesting use of my time.

>>96650267
My mayael deck.

>>96650356
Just wanted to say I wish more anons posted in-depth stuff about their brews like you do
it makes me feel like I'm not sharing this general with people who have no idea hOW TO PLAY THE FUCKING GAME

>>96650439
Reddit is that way dickhead

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>dedicates his life to sealing the Eldrazi away
>he, as well as any lands/artifacts related to him, is the biggest Eldrazi enabler out there
Someone explain this to me from a design standpoint. Is this something crazy plot twist where he's actually a fourth Titan that hates the others and wants to rule the universe on his own?

>>96650283
You're right. If I keep the rare greedy hand of all rocks I can get him out on turn 7, compared to actual godo decks that can reliably do so on turn 3 or 4
shame

>>96650448
That's just my autistic desire to ramble at work.

I'm "good" at EDH in that I've been playing since idk a little bit before NPH? I also had the good fortune of playing the format exclusively with oldfags (judges, people in the game since inception) which got me out of my shitter mentality very quickly.

I still fuck up miserably though. I have an awful tendency to not "remember" things off the board. An opponent's hand got revealed last I played for example, and then I cast a board wipe having completely forgotten about their sandbagged Talon Gates. It didn't matter but I still felt stupid as shit.

More people should post about their actually interesting decks, though even here you have a lot of tourists running tribal slop and precons.

>>96650284
>>96650290
Notice how I didn't say anything about counterspells specifically, I said 'interaction', and to say that blue doesn't have the best interaction in terms of being able to counter, bounce, stuff, exile, phase in/out, lock down, freeze, or what have you, is foolish on your part.

>>96650467
It's probably because he's really good with artifacts and that naturally makes him good with Eldrazi since they like lots of artifacts. I don't think it is intentional, but just a problem with the fact that WOTC decided that colorless mana is actually Eldrazi mana.

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>>96650339
Hi wotc glowie!

>>96650516
Counters are their main form of interaction. Bouncing is middling at best. Exiling/phasing arent that common. The rest arent interaction...? Its a boardstate.

>>96650461
Epic quip, updooted

>>96650339
>theorycraft
>play with friends
>replace all cards that didn't feel good to have in hand
>play again
>optimize mechanics, minimize budget
>settle in for a <200 deck that runs optimal in my friends' meta
>repeat every two weeks to a month for several years in a row
>60+ decks, several in use by my friends as birthday presents
If that isn't an addiction, I don't know what is

>>96650467
Simple. We need to split colorless into two factions. True colorless, and then Ugins version of simply being above the colors.

>>96649955
i want to build this guy, how are the games? not looking to win all the time in the same manner

>>96650581
You can build him in tons of different ways. Try making a build for him without looking at EDHRec much.

>>96650581
run a bunch of mana rocks, cast him when you have a board a ready protection, trow enchanments at people
One ring beatdown is more funny that you think

>>96650526
>>96650580
>Eldrazi now have negative mana costs
>you "pay" these costs by blighting an opponent's land (since Eldrazi go around eating everything) or other stuff
>Eldrazi are cast initially without costs, but have massive downsides if you don't satisfy a delayed cost in a certain amount of time (e.g. Ulamog requires you to eat 5 permanents in 3 turns, or he dies and deals 10 damage to you)
>Ugin is now the hipster king of colorless
>his stuff gives him a stronger advantage the more colored mana is used

>>96650643
Sorry Anon that's actually creative and not FIRE design.
Instead, have another +1/+1 counter doubler and an eldrazi cast trigger doubler.

>>96650587
>>96650588
are the artifacts and enchants he does affect considered creature spells/cards before they enter?

>>96650661
They are considered as creatures AS they enter
So warstorm surge can see it self and ping 4 to any random nerd

>>96650668
thats dirty

>>96650339
I do all of these btw

>>96650339
All of the above.

>play every Friday
>totally not gonna spend money on Blind Seer oops all Swords
>Keep capeshit, TV, and vidya out of Magic

>>96650516
I literally did discuss the other stuff though, i mentioned stax and bounce (cyclonic rift is the only relevant bounce, otherwise bouncing is objectively pretty shit in commander, too many etb creatures)
also please give examples of these blue exile spells, phasing spells, and freeze spells that you think make me look like a fool for not talking about. one of each please

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>>96650504
It's much easier to evaluate cards side-by-side and relative to the rest of the deck in a dedicated environment for doing so instead of Scryfall. That's literally all it is.
You just throw in everything that feels like it might fit the general theme and then start categorizing and that makes it easy to tweak ratios and compare small nuances in similar effects.
Picrel is a good example. It's not a better card than Zulaport, but targeting means it procs crimes to let me get Forsaken Miner back for cheap, or get treasure off of Magda, or drain a bit from Raven of Fell Omens. It's much easier for me to account for things like that when I can see all the pieces together on one page.

>>96650806
Ravenform, Reality Shift, Resculpt, to name the three best cards for exiles in blue.
Upheaval should be unbanned because it's funny, though.

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I have Eloise, Nephalia Sleuth and a clue token. I now play March of the Machines which resolves. The clue becomes a 0/0 creature which dies triggering Eloise (Investigate). This means I spawn another clue which immediately dies, etc. Repeat ad infinitum resulting in a draw.
Now say I had Blood Artist on the field aswell.
(When creature dies target opponent loses one life...) This means the infinite cycle results in infinite life drain.
According to my googling (and the MtG thread, I accidentally posted this in) I insta win even when I have multiple opponents and can use the infinite loop to drain opponents in sequence within the same turn. (Since Blood Artist says "target".)
Is this considered cancerous play?

>>96650467
my bigger complaint is that this nigger is pretty much only available in japanese in this art

>>96650812
Anon, you are going to such great lengths to justify what is probably the absolute worst way to do deck building. You could, instead, pick a specific theme you want to do with your deck, only add those cards, then make a different version of the deck using the other cards, rather than have to go through three whole decks worth of cards to make one deck.

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If I play against one more faggot running some take on Salubrious Snail's Gruul Radha cmc +4 cascade deck I am going to lose it. This must be ultimate youtube NPC magnet deck I have faced 5 separate people running this shit.

>>96650864
I dislike almost every single MTG channel I have seen due to them usually sounding really up-their-own-ass or just being obnoxious, or encouraging really bad behavior like buying into UB sets, not bullying people for liking UB, or trying to be authorities on a casual format.

The only one I like is Unpopular MTG because he finds weird jank cards that are actually pretty cool. Distraction Makers are okay too.

>>96648965
Tie between Mairsil and Kefka
I love Mairsil but he's one of those decks that feels like its story is "finished" and I don't feel compelled to play again, yet unique enough to not take apart. He comes out every so often and has been getting quiet support over time.
Kefka on the other hand was the discard commander I've been waiting for, and its Kefka.

>>96650883
incel vibes from this post

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>>96650854
Anon, you understand that you're going through way more than "three whole decks worth of cards" whenever you do a Scryfall search for any effect, right?
It's not like I'm angsting over having a billion cards and not being able to make cuts, it's just a rough draft of RakdosSacrificeBurn.dek while I hash out the elements I want to actually lean into. Right now it's the group slug shit that I'm starting to cull because it doesn't fit what I want the deck to be. But I still threw the group slug shit in there in the first place, because there's a lot of overlap and some of the sluggy pieces could still fit the end deck - like this one which fits with the burn goal and especially matches the flavor but still has some interactivity to it. On the other hand I'm probably cutting Razorkin Needlehead because even if it's great at burning it's more oppressive than I want this deck to be.
Also I know it probably seems like great lengths because it's a lot of text but really I just enjoy talking about this kind of thing, it's a fun process

>>96650854
Why do you care so much youre weird
>noooo that isnt MY method!!!
Autists are so fucking annoying

>>96650883
>I dislike content creators for not being authority figures on magic enough
>I dislike content creators for being too much of an authority figure
find a different hobby and maybe you'll be happy in life

>>96650837
>retard getting salty over ravenform, mid blue removal spells that rarely see play

Have you considered protecting your creatures or are you not smart enough to put tamiyo's safekeeping (not a creature) in your mono green stompy deck.

As far as phasing goes, there are some great ones like teferi's veil but they're kind of obscure and specific to a strategy.

You couldnt come up with one for freezing, I wish they gave it more love. Like a cyclonic rift, overload to freeze all your opponents nonland permanents

>>96650962
you do realize you are trying to defend taking 300 cards and cutting them down to 100

that sounds pretty autistic

>>96650848
I've got a copy of him in English, but it's sadly not the fancy halo foil. What really bugs me is the Ineffable alt art is JP only.
>tfw no T pose Ugin in English

>>96650972
There is no salt here, I'm simply talking about how blue has the best interaction, period. I didn't even bring up stuff like Pongify.
>>96650967
I dislike them for not having anything interesting to say, much like your post.

on one hand you have the UB schizo that does not stop complaining about UB
on the other hand you have the UB shill that only likes UB cards

both do not like playing commander games of Magic: the Gathering
both are tourists

how do you fix this

>>96650986
very epic and mass appeal take you have there upboated and reddit gold gifted

>>96650986
Thats not what you typed at all chubby

>>96650996
Ignore them both or add a 3rd party that likes or is indifferent to both UB and UW.

>>96650883
You're not shitting on Quips and Guac right I love that retard

>>96648965
I don't play 3 color slop.

>>96650996
>on the other hand you have the UB shill that only likes UB cards
I have never met this person, I have never heard of this person
I've heard plenty of cases of people getting into magic from UB but I've never heard of anyone who outright rejects non-UB
The closest I've seen is people who justify UB by saying those IPs are better than what Magic's actual setting currently is and you gotta admit that isn't that unreasonable when we get shit like DFT but most of those people are Magic fans seething over WotC's treatment of the world

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>>96650883
I couldn't care less about which MTG youtubers people watch and don't watch. What I do care about is when what's effectively a precon given to them by a youtuber appears at my table over and over. I've played against multiple people who think they're a genius for figuring out Radha should be replaced with Ruby at the helm of this pseudo precon. I don't even dislike Gruul stompy at my tables but it's so samey every time it appears.
>5+ cmc cascade into....
>EXPLOSIVE VEGETATION! whoa I hit one of eight identical 4 cmc ramp cards in my deck!
It's tiring. I enjoy playing against decks people actually made not precon decks they were given by a 3rd party.

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>>96648965
Kefka, Court Mage and to answer the next question its because im a UBfag not a cEDHfag

>>96650986
It's not that I don't understand why some hate the playstyle of blue. I hate the playstyle of red, mostly because the good small aggro cards are meant to be played at 20 life against 1 opponent. You're allowed to have your preferences. But the idea blue has fundamentally broken the game where I take issue. We have had the concept of counterspells since the game's inception and it can be a problem sometimes, sure, but it also stops a lot of problems and that's why they're important.

>>96650978
what do you think you're doing every time you build a deck

>>96651059
Goodstuff slop of the highest order.

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Which deck will make me go pic related?

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>>96648883
I used this card in my umbris deck and exiled all forests from the elf players deck, was hilarious.

Another note: what do you think of star athlete trigger being copied for every possible target? Thinking of adding this to my parnesse deck


Lastly ->>96648924
you could tell a mile away that edge was a conditioner for star trek and other scifi bullshit. There’s going to be a new commander bracket soon, and it’s going to be pre 2026 commander probably.

>>96651007
those people are in the minority

>>96651025
>I've heard plenty of cases of people getting into magic from UB but I've never heard of anyone who outright rejects non-UB

Hello WotC glowie still trying to push your narrative on us?

Would this save me from A Niv-Mizzet infinite, or any other infinite that involves a creature triggering infinite 1 damage triggers?
Theres also Urza’s Armor that have a similar effect, I want to ward my against infinite retards.

>>96651092
Please don't reply to my posts, it's very disappointing to tab back in to mexican keysmashing

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UN-BAN MY ZESTY ELF!!!

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>>96651108
fuck that free my nigga prime time

>>96651099
>upload failed
Card in question is “Orbs of Warding”

>>96651025
>The closest I've seen is people who justify UB by saying those IPs are better than what Magic's actual setting currently is

This isn't even untrue though Magic hasn't had a hit as far as setting and story goes in literally decades, how can you complain about Final Faggety and Doctor Who being in Magic when Kamigawa Neon Dynasty exists

shit like FF6 and New Vegas are objectively cooler and more inspired than anything WotC has put out in a very long time

>>96651108
He just got unbanned today for Commander Duels. But who cares about commander duels anyway

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>>96651038
Yeah netdecking is almost universally cringe unless it's a genuinely funny deck that makes the game more chaotic/unpredictable in a fun way. I think I found the deck you are talking about, but can you link it so I can look it over? It doesn't look all that interesting, just generic 'I ramp and play big spell and accrue too much value because cascade is broken'

>>96651062
I pick cards that I personally like and think they fit the deck, then look for other cards to fill things out, then search through scryfall and the like for anything else.

>>96651015
I think I have watched that guy maybe once? He seemed okay.

>>96651082
Honestly I think pre-2020 commander would probably be good, maybe even earlier than that. But yeah I agree, Edge of Eternities and all the other sets that introduced harder scifi stuff were obviously just lubing up the asshole of MTG players in preparation for all this UB slop. Also I fucking love Star Athlete. One of my favorite cards. You could use Radiant Performer to do some very funny stuff with him.
>>96650999
>saying you don't care for youtubers that are popular on reddit is reddit

Magic has not been cool aesthetically since Weatherlight Saga and I know some complete sperglord is going to respond to this saying Innistrad is a cool well written setting

>>96648924
Start Your Engines is a fucking awful mechanic that takes 4 or 5 turns to actually pay off, which is just retarded since it is something you'd expect would be good in aggro decks.

Warp is just Adventure but (mostly) better.

>>96651105
wokefaggot pushing more UB on us can't you stay in your own lane

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>>96651116
You have a realm of boring dogshit like meme cowboy hats and scooby doo survivors and the entire set of aetherdrift and you choose Neon Dynasty to shit on??

>>96651138
Mirrodin and New Phyrexia were cool.
>>96651154
I like Neon Dynasty, myself.

>>96651138
I would include that the writing hasn't been good since then either

>>96651114
Just make a Mini Primeval Titan that only gives one land instead. It's two broken and all-consuming the way it is, and how it shows up in every green deck and instantly takes over the game and is fought over, sometime giving four of any land per turn. Just should have never been printed.

>>96651137
https://archidekt.com/decks/6780851/radhas_explosive_vegetables
There are small changes people make but it's always based on this skeleton

>>96650978
>autism is when someone does something differently than me
Please stop posting.

>>96650986
>period
But again it doesnt. Blues actual (not counter) removal is not very good and very limited. White objectively has the best removal in the game. There's literally no debate on this its an absurd line to take. It can hit every permanent type minus planeswalkers, vast majority at instant speed, and well costed.>>96650986

>>96651138
Magic has never been even remotely well-written, there are occasional motes of brilliance but as a whole it's never been above generic pulp fantasy and if there wasn't a good game tied to it nobody anywhere would care about it
No, Urza going HECKIN CUHRAYZEE or turning into a talking head was not good writing

>>96651204
I'm talking about interaction, not removal.

>>96651204
Aren't creatures the best Planeswalker removal?

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>>96651173
Yeah this looks like a really boring value pile. The only way to play against a deck like this is by playing cards like Vexing Bauble and Lavinia that cuck people trying to cast free spells.

>>96651108
arena brawl convinced me boomers were sharting themselves too hard over this guy, he's not that good.

>>96651172
But he's so cool in modern...

>>96648890
Read the section on continuous effects and losing the game in the 800. Sections of the CR.
If people care about their commander you turned the game into a 3v1, since they get theirs back when you die. If you could win the 3v1, this combo hardly matters in the first place.

>>96651173
This deck is perfectly fine. I wish retarded Timmies would rip this shit off at my LGS. At least then there'd be some measure of deckbuilding intentionality.

>>96651154
nta but Anime Cyberpunk Ninjas is not a good fit for magic

>>96651132
Oh nice! I hope this means they are considering bringing him back for the 99 in EDH like it used to be.

Why does no one care about commander duels? Do people if they are just playing against one other person use their regular EDH deck and rules instead?

>>96651217
Then why did you bring up bouncing, exiling, phasing etc. When I mentioned counterspells you went
>FUNNY CAUSE I DIDNT EVEN SAY COUNTERSPELLS I SAID (stuff you are now referring to as removal not interaction)
That is ignoring the fact that white has enough counters for a deck. Unless youre doing oops all counters, white has what around 5-7 now? That is sufficient and parallels what most non mono blue decks will pack.
>>96651220
I mean direct damage to any target would probably be the best (so red) for this discussion. Or the few cards that say kill creature or planeswalker (mostly black i think)

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>>96651154
unironically cowboys fits magic better than this touhou shit

>>96651251
Anon that isn't even a real printing of Azami

>>96651251
nigga made a custom card and got mad about it

>>96651250
Oh yeah you can still block a creature that targets a Planeswalker. I've always thought they felt super vulnerable because you can swing at them directly; they're playing by ygo rules in a game where combat is much less decisive

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>>96651263
so these are all fake cards too then? this is what you think magic should look like?

https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=%28game%3Apaper%29+%28set%3Aneo+OR+set%3Anec%29+is%3Ashowcase

anime sets are the same as UB sets, Kamigawa is a UB set, Kaito is a UB character

the people that got into commander through UB are more enjoyable to play with than most of you niggas screeching lmao

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>>96651234
Yeah I didn't want to tell that anon that everyone killing him (which they will rightfully do for his extremely gay play) and get their commanders back, and then go back to playing the game against one another.

I had a game where someone dropped Mesmeric Orb and Water Crystal and Riverchurn Monument within the first 4 turns, then was surprised that the two players with actual board states just full swung into him to kill him so that we weren't milling 5 cards for just tapping a land for the rest of the game.

Playing obnoxious combos that just make the game unplayable for most decks and getting beat down for it is always deserved.

>>96651250
Removal is interaction, not all interaction is hard removal like white's bajillion exiles.
White has a few counterspells, I think Rebuff the Wicked, Lapse of Certainty, Mana Tithe and Order of the Sacred Torch are the most playable ones.

I didn't know about Equinox though, this card looks pretty funny to run once I have convinced my group that land destruction is actually fine.

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>>96651286
>anime sets are the same as UB sets
what did anon mean by this

>>96651319
nta but Three Kingdoms is Chinese not anime
you will not get the reddit gold you are looking for now

>>96648883
Rule of Law
Teferi, Time Raveler
Isochron Scepter
Reprieve

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>>96651286
If you want to loosen the definition of UB that much P3K is UB too and magic has been shit much longer than you thought it was, you retarded pearl clutcher.

>>96651286
each of these cards has a normal version, who cares

>>96651319
>Portal: Three Kingdoms
>anime
PTK is based on real people and real events and you think its an anime. Its not even based on Japanese people its based on Chinese Lords and Generals

Average 2025 EDH player's IQ

>>96651344
The point being made is that the art style of a card doesn't change whether or not the card is fitting for MTG. Portal 3 Kingdoms is cool and based.

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>>96651353
Magic always was UB

>>96651357
Nah dude you don't get it.

>>96651353
that doesn't look like anime art to me you fucking WotC glowie sucking Final Fantasy cocks keep crying cause no one likes your UB shit

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>>96651367
Truly a redditor game from the beginning.

>>96651360
Portal Three Kingdoms does not have anime art
asian people doesn't make it anime
I think you got lost on the way to freemagic

>3 Kingdoms
>3
lol lmao
american zoomer spotted

>>96651367
>>96651353
This is the most specious argument of all time.
>y-yeah, these one off sets from 4 billion years ago steeped in another culture's deep literary history?
>it's the same as my Funko Pop Furby Secret Lair!

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>>96651360
>3 Kingdoms
the fuck did you just type

>>96651376
>boomer humor! must be reddit!
I wish everyone under the age of 25 would stop playing this game

Ro3K
Dynasty 3arriors
3usou

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>>96651391
>deep literary history
Yeah lmao that's definitely what wotc had in mind when they were deliberately printing a set to pander to the chinese audience. It was the same marketing tactic then as it is today. Keep seething.

>>96651423
The Chinese audience. You're insane. Do you think the Chinese audience in 1999 was what it is today? China was a fucking third-world shithole where no one had disposable income.

>Referencing the epic of Gilgamesh is EXACTLY THE SAME as introducing Steve from Minecraft guys

>>96651309
Please stop typing so much when you clearly have only been playing a year or two and know very little. Your posts are painful to read and literally self refuting. Blues interaction is unique but far from the best.

>>96651434
Yet they were pandered to anyway. No amount of false equivalencies will change that.

>>96651357
So you mean to say... a universe... beyond the canon magic planes?

>>96651434
>Portal Three Kingdoms was specifically designed for the Asian market and was not sold in North America. It was mainly printed in Japanese, Simplified Chinese, and Traditional Chinese, but there was also an English printing, sold mostly in Australia and New Zealand.
>set specifically printed for china and surounding countries
>not made to pander to china

>>96651383
>>96651393
I knew that would upset someone, I wasn't expecting a two for one.

>>96651446
I'm talking about anime style not UB and PTK is not anime style nor is it japanese

>>96651442
Nah, you're a fag.

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>>96651453

>chink is mad because wotc is pandering to japan and not china
all starting to make sense now. asian on asian racism runs deep

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>>96651357
>PTK is based on real people and real events
It's based on a book loosely based on real people and real events, PTK is no more grounded in historical fact than Dynasty Warriors
Dynasty Warriors is probably closer to historical fact actually because at least it could fucking spell Dong Zhuo's name right

>>96651438
I thought the problem of UB was that it had nothing to do with UW so now UB is ok if it has a historical figure? Is Leonardo Da Vinci ok now?

>>96651477
Leonardo Da Vinci and Sokrates at least have some precedence due to Arabian Nights and Portal 3 Kingdoms.

>>96651472
Its based on both RotK and the real events but mostly the real events versus the RotK interpretations (ie Liu Bei doesn't have thick thighs and isn't being bullied for it, Zhou Yu doesn't look like a woman and isn't engaging in homosexual relations before Chi Bi, Pangtong and Zuo Ci getting cards but not RotK main stays like Zhao Yun and Sun Ce)

there are chinese spies in my card game thread

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>>96651477
>Is Leonardo Da Vinci ok now?
NTA but shit example, this card is legitimately good and all you'd have to change is the name to make it fit perfectly in-universe. And I say that as someone who hates Ass Creed with a passion.
Also if you wanna be autistic and technical you could say that he's based specifically on Ass Creed's Davinky, but by that logic PTK gets a pass too since it's based specifically on Romance of the Three Kingdoms and its associated motifs as opposed to the real people.

>>96651286
Arabian Nights is a UB set

There's a chance we get a hitler card

>>96651551
Then why isn't it legal in Standard??

>>96651558
Phyrexians

>>96651558
yawg mogs hitler

>>96651562
Because Magic makes you buy your cardboard over again for some stupid reason

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NTA but shit example, this card is legitimately good and all you'd have to change is the name to make it fit perfectly in-universe. And I say that as someone who hates Final Fantasy with a passion.

>>96651578
You don't have to change anything here because this fits MtG more than DFT did

>mtg boomers getting their wires getting crossed between old good and UB bad by a PTK comparison
lmao

>>96650339
crying about interaction

>>96648997
That tiddy censorship is egregious

>>96649221
>There are cards that are much easier to prevent damage too, like pic related + necrodominance or necropotence
Does this combo actually work? Isn't paying life different than having damage dealt?

>>96651598
I think they're more upset that it is being spelled Portal 3 Kingdoms

>>96651608
No, paying life is different than damage, so it wouldn't work that way.

>>96651608
Yeah but you're in orzhov, so you just gain it all back again. The point wasn't that the cards somehow cancel out, it's just that necro draw spells also make you skip your draw step, so that part of solitary confinement becomes irrelevant. You will always draw enough to be able to discard so there is no risk of ever sac'ing it

>>96651598
stay in your lane weeb don't you have a dandadan episode to watch

>>96651578
why does it have to fit in-universe
why is magic the only IP where you need an in-universe version for every crossover character no one else does this and are wildly celebrated games

>>96651602
Anon, there's nothing to censor

>>96651689
>why is magic the only IP where you need an in-universe version for every crossover character no one else does this and are wildly celebrated games
Because this is Magic the Gathering, no Capcom vs Marvel
It's bad enough faggots like you are paying WotC to print ads on cardboard, but you can't let people who liked Magic for Magic at least TRY to enjoy the game without your bullshit.

If you want to autism-smush all your favorite things together and play yout Hulk action figure with your GI Joes, go and fucking do it, but stop imposing it on the rest of us

>>96651719
>Capcom vs Marvel
autism or underage

autism-smush guy is back, guess he got done sleeping

>>96651781
>everyone I don't like is one guy
ok

Post decks

>>96651901
sure, which colour(s)?

>>96651719
>If you want to autism-smush all your favorite things together and play yout Hulk action figure with your GI Joes, go and fucking do it, but stop imposing it on the rest of us

if you think this is the reason why people like games such as marvel vs capcom then I implore you to go outside and make some friends

>>96651719
>Because this is Magic the Gathering, no Capcom vs Marvel
yeah everyone actually loses their shit over Spider-Man in one but not the other

>>96651719
I'm gonna take you for a ride
Dunununun, dananana

>>96651719
Yeah if it was more like Marvel vs Capcom then Magic would actually be a good game right now

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>>96651901
https://archidekt.com/decks/16081295/masako_they_attack_and_dont_relax

>>96651976
you're thinking exclusively of MVC2, every other entry in that series is dreadful

>>96651901
https://archidekt.com/decks/16339480/everyone_will_see_every_card_in_their_deck

Gotta cut 12 more cards from this.

>>96651719
>Because this is Magic the Gathering, no Capcom vs Marvel

MvC is more culturally significant than Magic ever was tho what the fuck are you saying acting like its some prestigious brand
I think more people that don't even play video games know "I WANNA TAKE YOU FOR A RIDE" than anything related to magic outside of maybe how much a Black Lotus is

on that note WotC in all of its years of existing never thought it would be a good idea for brand establishment to make some music for Magic or even just 1 (one) *uno* piece of iconic character art not tied to a card

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Daily reminder Star Trek has always been in magic.

>>96651995
>MvC3 was bad
Sorry grandpa it's time to wake up and face reality.

>>96651995
this is how I know you have no friends

>>96651995
MvC Infinite is the only bad game there are more people playing MVC1 right now than there are on the entirety of Spelltable, the entire series is well liked by all but the same cannot be said for the past 10 years of Magic

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>>96651995
I don't even play brawler games and I can tell this is a retard opinion just from the amount of normies I know that love Marvel vs Capcom 1 and the X-Men one I don't remember the name of

didn't they put all the old ones in one package and everyone went crazy for it

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>>96651995
Shit opinion

>>96649189
I don't want to draw cards either. I don't like ANY of blue's mechanics. I don't like bounce, I don't like scrying, I don't want to polymorph things as my source of removal. I did not even fucking mention counterspells, it's you who think I am not talking about the WHOLE BREADTH of blue's interactions with the game.

>>96652011
Both 3 and I were dogshit, people play 1 because it's close to 2 mechanically and 2 is one of the best fighting games ever made

>>96652045
>I don't want to draw cards
then why are you playing a card game

>>96652048
>3 was dogshit
Objectively wrong but keep living in fantasy land anon.

>>96651995
>>96651719

MvC3 tournaments run by a chinese guy in his boxers regularly triple the viewership of peak Pro Tour Top 8s

Not sure why you think Magic is bigger or more liked lmao

>>96652054
I enjoy inconsistency.

>>96652048
>people play 1 because it's close to 2 mechanically

literally making shit up lmao

1 has random and limited assists, 2v2 instead of 3v3, and a powerup to control 2 characters on screen at the same time as the main feature of the game

>>96651955
Mono red

>>96652060
I dont think MTG is bigger or more liked lmao, I'm not autism-smush guy and I am pro-crossover in general.
>>96652056
Fewer people are playing MVC3 on steam rn than are on spelltable, which was YOUR criteria for this shit

>>96652048
> people play 1 because it's close to 2 mechanically
the "UB is bad" player when tasked with knowing another game/piece of media outside of what WotC feeds them

>>96650339
Personally I enjoy obsessively building and rebuilding the same list over and over

Ive decided Im going to run Armageddon and noone can stop me

>>96652075
I'm the spelltable anon not him
>MvC3
>steam
>doesn't know

They have their own program to play Marvel 3 with better online, they don't use steam, THATS how well liked it is

>>96652048
>people play 1 because it's close to 2 mechanically
You could have just googled this to see if you were wrong or not when making shit

the fact that you're listing only 1, 2, and 3 says a lot

>>96652092
based as long as you're gonna win fast after casting it

>>96652093
Well, if that's true then I stand corrected. But I recall some big drama about 3 when it first came out and it was considered bad for some time. Was this unfounded?

>>96652048
I can only imagine the shitshows your decklists are if you can't even look up basic information before trying to speak like you know anything

Magic vs Capcom UB when?

>>96652113
They already did a Street Fighter SLD, and some of those characters were very very well-received mechanically

>>96651138
Magic hasn't been cool looking since 1998 but rare sets like Innistrad at least have a decent style instead of generic fantasyslop.

Magic has never had good writing and was at its best when there was no story, just vague allusions via flavor text+art to a plot that wasn't fleshed out. If this wasn't true they wouldn't have to rely on UB to sell sets, Magic has had 30 years to create memorable settings and characters and it's failed to do either.

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2026 doesn't look too bad, honestly. Not my favorite sets, but better than hats, b movies, carts racers, and scifi, I think.

>>96652106
> But I recall some big drama about 3 when it first came out
They released a $40 update within the first 6 months of the games release with Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3, people didn't like that at first but when it dropped it was literally everything everyone wanted with the character choices and rebalance for the players so all the gripes faded away but I don't blame the casual audience before feeling nickel and dimed

>it was considered bad for some time
in the first version of the game X-Factor and Jean Grey was Vivi Cauldron combo except even an actual 6 year old child could do it and go far

>>96652104
No, the whole deck is resource denial with no wincon outside of others conceeding.

>>96652130
I see, that must've been what I remembered.

>>96652127
>Sissyfication of an entire plane
>Harry Potter at home
>Bolas getting buttfucked by Ugin

>>96652127
Reality Fracture will be all of those in a blender

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>>96652045
>I don't want to draw cards either
So you exclusively play colourless, right?

>>96652150
>not wanting to have sex with Ugin and Bolas

>>96652117
So well so they eventually got Universes Within. Though it would be cool to see them revisit Street Fighter again.

>>96652175
No I play white.

>>96650102
https://moxfield.com/decks/bK7rSW3sM0OxoGB4XvAyfQ
He still get dogpiled a little once the ball is rolling, but as long as the players know it's not a fast deck and thwre are no wheels, it's usually still pretty fun.