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Work in Progress, "Return of John Slugman" Edition

>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD

>WIP Tutorial Images Mega
https://mega.nz/#F!TvQFCaLb!w8WZKCcOsTRasxrI0JWezw

>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno

>Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s

>Paint thinning 102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDVPoNXyVI

>4 EASY Chipping Tricks For Beginners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku4comhKHJM

>Decal Like a Pro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYKLiEW7p9c

>How to Edge Highlight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoRbYuAfbEk

>How to use contrast style paints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhholrozptI

>How to Paint with Tremors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqp76vAJu9g

>Airbrush Priming and Thinning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkntrSBvXxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGjBQzoukFg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00JVUxABe44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEqT_R41JX8

>Who's Johnny, she'd say, and smile in her special way
https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Johnny

>Previous Threads:
>>97962146
>>97949657
>>97931854
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>two /wip/ threads
I'm confused.
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>>97975711
I had a late night last night and was unable to build us a new thread in a timely manner, so >>97975439 stepped in. Looks like at least some folks are holding off on posting until they see a collage with Johnny (from the Legion of the Damned, no less!) and Rin in it.
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>>97975723
more like people didn't want to post in a thread with ragebait OP image
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Repostan. Nearly done with the tracked Repulsor IFV kitbash. It still needs some detailing (tarps, autoncannon spent casings, commander for the hatch, and more), filling up the holes, and complete cleanup, but most of the build is complete.
Though I might scratchbuild larger slat armor.
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>>97975736
it thought the joke was it was the same tranny pre and post op in thoise youtube thumbnails
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finished this guy yesterday
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>>97975748
Very sharp! Vengeance for Prospero!
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>>97975723
Yeah, though you did put your e-whore in the image again.
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>>97975748
Amazing. Makes me want to start a tsons army.
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>>97975757
>>97975795
Thank you, anons!
>>97975763
Yeah, it's for this months /40kg/ collage
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>>97975748
Awesome job as usual but remember, the schizo told us cleanly painted doesnt equal to skillfully painted
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>>97975778
nta but its better than your shitpost op image, seethe cope and dilate
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>>97975817
the schizo isnt wrong
also that mini is carried heavily by the photo and the proper lighting
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reminder to not fall for obvious bait
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>>97975748
I love these dudes because they look like they would've been amazing Yugioh villains.
But for real, great work, Anon.
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im not baiting thougheverbeit
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finished the pink undercoat for my yellow, but most likely won't have time to do any more work till tomorrow.
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recommend me obscure minipainting channels
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Reposting the drones from the other thread. Need to do the bases and make the eyes stand out more.
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>>97976007
I dunno if he's obscure enough, but I like miniscape
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>>97976016
I love these guys. They remind me of some of the nightmarish creatures Ralph Bakshi (Fritz the Cat, Wizards) paints up.
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Added my layer of frozen ice water and shattered ice shelf to my white dragon base. I have been getting compliments, I think it is turning out quite well. Debating if I want to add some dynamic waves crashing over the ice shelf, or keep it still and clear.
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>>97976100
sideview
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>>97976102
>>97976100
Tilted view. (Also the spillover on the edges has already been trimmed and taken care of)
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>>97976102
>>97976105
The ice is phenomenal! What is that?!?
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my WIP is that I'm working on planning out a series of built in shelves and a built in desk (to replace my shitty fold out table) to update my hobby space and give me some more practical storage and use of the space.
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>>97976123
I bought a fat bag of 500~ mixed pieces of faux ice/diamond acrylic chunks, usually used for wedding/special occasion table filler or for product photography. I got it in multiple sizes, inserting the bits in to the epoxy layer about 2 hours in to the layering process, so they could get some more epoxy glazed over them. You'll notice that the smallest bits are actually fully submerged, with some of the slightly bigger bits just barely peeking over the top.

(You may also notice if you get a good view IRL that the ice chunks have residual fingerprints of whatever Chinese factory worker was molding these by hand lol)
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>>97975998
why pink for a underocat? what does that accomplish?
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>>97976174
yellow over pink provides really nice rich shading vs just using white
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>>97975826
I'm not your boogeyman anon. You think I wouldn't have added her ass to the shitpost if it were me?
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>>97976174
Youtubers realized that pink and yellow make an orange color, and tricked people into thinking you should just do this instead of just painting the colors you want them to be. People then went on to not realize that that was only supposed to be for shaded areas, not the whole part, and started just base coating things in flat pink believing yellow is supposed to go over pink without any further consideration for what they are trying to accomplish or how it works towards that goal.
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>>97976205
Where were you, when zoomers discovered the color wheel and complimentary theory?
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It's (still) time for Nagash.
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>>97976205
Literally what video are you referring to that doesn't follow up a pink undershade with white gradient/highlights before moving on to yellow?
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>>97975698
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>>97976251
None, the videos did a white zenithal/volumetrics/drybrush. Anon didn't though, and he didn't mention doing one either. Youtubers were doing the unnecessary gimmick correctly, and some people boiled it down to 'yellow over pink'.
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dont mind me just applying a couple thin coats (so they achieve full opacity) over my zenithal highlight
remember to like and subscribe
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how about you niggers stop watching shit you don't like instead of bitching about it here
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>>97976262
Colorful
You gotta cover the whole base though
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Theoretically how would you go about doing proper 'glows' for things like Skorpekh blades or Ruststalker swords?
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>>97976315
Alas, bitching about it here is what they like.
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>>97976347
The term to search for is OSL.
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>>97976347
https://youtu.be/V_oe0_fNl0I
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>>97976064
I will never forget the rape tree from the last unicorn, his style is so iconic.
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Feets...
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>>97976439
...or thighs?
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>>97976100
>>97976102
>>97976105
That looks fucking aces.
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>>97976446
>>97976439
Can you mount her squatting on his shoulder? Both hand poses look strange with how her sleeves are angled.
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>>97976148
you might be able to hide the fingerprints with a layer of gloss varnish, and while you are at it you could add a bit of blue or white in some spots, ice is rarely that clear above sea level
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Reposting cause thread died

Hello guys! John slugman / shieldface /simpso here.
Working on a new system called Slum Lord. Kinda a tabletop slice of life scale agnostic thing. It'll be a fully realized book with clay art and illustrations etc. Rules will always be free to download. Here's some models I've done for it so far. Hope you're all doing well.
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>>97976581
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Got most of the runes ready for some yellowing in the middle. Looks pretty sexy so far compared to how it used to look.
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Hope you all like the vision
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>>97976581
>>97976588
>>97976614
reminds me of the little demonic tokens from Berzerk (forget what they're called)
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>>97976446
That one. More support and looks more compact. >>97976439 this one looks way too fidly.
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>>97976446
I feel like number 2 has a better silhouette.
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>>97976515
I have that idea too, but to realize it i must cut off her cloak and bend her left leg. Even then, her wings would still get in the way of Khaine's head
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>>97976581
>Simpso is a chud
Based
Do tell us about the game, please. How does it play like?
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>>97976581
>>97976588
>>97976610
>>97976614
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>>97976662
I'll be transparent with you, dunno what a chud fully is. But if it's based , I appreciate it.

I can post the current version of the rules if you'd like. It's a disjointed, semi-playable tangle of interconnecting mechanics and subsystems. It is kinda like the sims / tamagotchi where you play as a landlord overseeing a building you create that is decaying. The tenants usually get fungal infections or feel unhappy about the utilities going out etc.
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>>97976266
I didn't think that far ahead
Last time I painted yellow it was very annoying, so I put pink down first and it was much easier to get a consistent coat.
I don't know much about volumetric highlights, I'm trying to get dramatic shadows. Plan after yellow is thinned brown wash to see how that goes.
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>>97976564
I will be adding some snow across the whole of the ice and base soon
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>>97976581
Looks perfect for like a point and click adventure game, I don't know how interested I'd be in playing it out on a tabletop though.
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>>97976900
nta but with a pink undercoat you'll get an orangey yellow which is fine if that's what you want

You could have just stuck with white if you needed a bright yellow too

people usually do a mix of pink and white then glaze the yellow over them to get some smooth and subtle transitions but then again it's obviously just one of the ways to achieve it
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>>97976984
NTA, the issue people see with white and yellows is that yellow is streaky/bad-coverage still over white. You want to build up towards the lightness and saturation in steps, with a duller desaturated but opaque yellow, and then work up to brighter yellow in like 1 or 2 layers after that. Unless airbrushing. you can get smooth airbrush coverage over white.
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>>97976972
Totally understand. I doubt it will be received particularly well in the tabletop scene. It's more of a concept or experimental system. As long as it has a niche following of people who really enjoy it, I'll be happy. I have an image for the book and aesthetic I really want to realize, so it's my point of focus for the next year or so. We will see!
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>>97977050
Yeah that is true. I did have some success using the gw yellow monopigment contrast over a large white area, but I imagine an airbrush is ultimately the best tool for difficult paints
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Is it just me or is an airbrush easier to use than a regular brush?
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>>97977814
It's just you, you are the only one in the world that feels that way. Congratulations for being unique.
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>>97977817
That's what I thought.
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>>97977814
I wouldn't say easier, airbrush is imo easy to learn, hard to master kind of thing.
But it definitely makes a lot of things easier and faster. No clue why people are doing acrylic glazing or blending when airbrushes exist. Well, apart from really tiny, small parts.
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>>97977814
>Is it just me or is are scissors easier to use than a knife?
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Also worked a bit on these ghar battlesuits today. I think I'll add more something to the eyes and the weapon barrels, but I'd call them mostly done.
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Right, given that I've posted the wips for the last few weekends might as well show you people the end result.

Inquisitor in Terminator Armor and his BodyGuard:
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Any good tutorials or guides that go in depth on painting your first mini? I've watched some videos but I just can't get it to look good.

I just stripped the mini but I need to re prime tonight and wait for it to cure so I can try again tomorrow.
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>>97977927
what are you looking for specifically? common beginner mistakes are not thinning the paint correctly and poor brush control.
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>>97976338
I was trying for this color scheme and I wish I would have picked something else
>gotta cover the whole base
I like about 3/4 with mixed flock
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>>97977953
I was having trouble thinning the paint correctly. I think I made it too thin. But then I didn't realize you had to wipe off your brush after dipping it in paint, so I ended up flooding some of the details anyways.

As far as brush control, yeah I can't get the brush to put paint where I want. When I try to paint with the very tip of the brush, little to no paint comes out. But when I move the brush a little closer, the paint goes everywhere. Also the ends of the brush tend to split into 2 or 3 groups while I am painting a line which then makes a mess.

But the main thing is that I don't know how to select colors for my base/mid tones/highlights, and I don't know where to place my highlights. I might try zenithal highlighting this time.
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>>97977927
My advice is to paint it whatever way and never, ever, ever repaint it.
Treasure it, its your first mini, and will serve as a way to measure how far you've come as a painter.

It will suck, its expected and normal, accept it.
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>>97975817
>say that painting cleanly is 90% of looking skilled
>lazy painters are absolutely malding because they want to believe they can get good by learning enough secret techniques while continuing to have shit fundamentals
ywnbasp
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you don't need more than slapchop
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It's kinda amazing that Caledor Sky is one of the very first paints I've ever bought, yet every single time I try using it I can't get it right at all
Even after 7 fucking layers, each thinner than my hopes for a brighter future, it's awful. I cope by thinking the one pot I bought was defective in some way, else it's time for the rope
At least I finished this ugly mofo, but I'm definitely getting an airbrush for the next big boy

>>97977927
>stripped the mini
I'm a fellow newfag, started less than a year ago
I would recommend against doing this, if you set the standards too high for yourself you end up
>accomplishing nothing, making you feel awful because after a lot of painting you have nothing to show for it
>you don't see how things evolve and grow; a lot of times things will look rough early on but you can usually salvage them/work around them
>you don't keep a physical sense of progression
And most importantly
>you start hating the hobby, which is the opposite of what you'd want
I've watched a LOT of videos, but you learn the most by just painting shit and figuring out what works and what doesn't; and even if things end up looking rough and kinda dogshit, at the end of the day you're just here to have fun
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>>97978039
I don't consider myself an expert painter so take this as you will.

>thinning
there isn't a magic ratio for thinning because it varies based the brand of paint, the batch of paint, how long the paint has been open, the humidity in the air, whatever. You have to get a feel for it with experience. The common advice is "like milk" but that sucks. You want the paint to be as thin as you can get it without it starting to flow everywhere and be hard to control, and absolutely not so thin that pigmentation starts breaking apart.

>brush control
Also something that takes practice and building up the muscles in your hands. Most beginners press too hard. I struggled with this a lot until I also started practicing drawing regularly.

>brushes splitting
bad brushes tend to do this but good sable is spendy so there isn't a great answer here. Real sable holds onto paint and moisture so differently from synthetics, and even within synthetics I've experienced a big difference between a 9 dollar synthetic and a 3 dollar synthetic. Real sable can be cleaned and repaired somewhat, but if a synthetic starts to hook at the tip, it's done.

>color selection
Color choices are really subjective unless you are trying to accurately replicate historical models. A lot of paint brands sell "triads" of paints, containing a shadow, mid tone, and highlight color specifically to help with this. You don't have to buy those paint brands or sets, but looking at them might help, as might looking at a lot of miniatures and 2d paintings and taking note of the colors used. There are also these color picker tools for industrial and interior designers that can help here too but I don't have much personal experience with those tools.

A lot of beginner focused stuff like the gw era duncan rhodes videos use a lot of flat colors with washes because they are easier techniques for getting something painted to a tabletop standard.
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>>97978039
practice painting plastic spoons to figure out the right ratio. you can also practice brush control while you are doing it. try drawing a grid and then filling in every other box to make a checker pattern on the spoon. don't worry too much about highlighting well defined color separation is more important.
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>>97977834
>No clue why people are doing acrylic glazing or blending when airbrushes exist

Probably because it's annoying as fuck to try to apply very tiny spots with airbrush without hitting everything around. Not impossible but it's simply easier with brush. As that guy from H&S said once, if you struggle with particular paintjob, consider whether you are using the right tool.
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I honestly don't understand why every single time I make Blue Stuff mold with Lego blocks for casting box, resulting mold is slightly larger than the box. Always. As a result, when I try to redo first half and later do actual casting itself, I cannot build the box back as blocks simply detach on their own.
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'eavy metal looks better on a tabletop.
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>>97976581
>John slugman
I've loved your stuff forever. do you have a portfolio anywhere with all of it?
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working on...something?
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>>97978453
I should be.
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>delivery shows up
>1 of the things is wrong
>new delivery of the right thing won't be here till monday
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>>97978517
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>>97978517
tfw
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Hey what do you guys use to measure really small shit? I know about calipers but what if you can't touch both sides?
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>>97976581
>>97976610
>>97976588
>>97976614
idk your name as an artist, but these little bastards are incredibly ugly and scummy looking.

I love them. Please let me give you my dosh to purchase some of these fugly fellas. Also >6581 looks kino as hell, excellent dollhouse diorama. Gives me memories of the inner apartment shots of Jan Svankmejer's "Virile Games". Great stuff!
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>>97979060
what do you mean "can't touch both sides"? I've never had an issue with cheap digital calipers.
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>>97979060
if you can't measure something with a micrometer it's considered a non-feature of size and you have to measure it indirectly using gauge pins and math and shit.
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>>97979060
I don't measure shit I use my eyeballs and gut instinct baby B^)
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Wormking
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>>97975698
should I go with the heel straps with color leather? or should I go metal?
box art has them as leather but hmm I dont know, how would it look cooler?
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>>97979367
they look like they're part of the boot uppers so why would you paint them differently?
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>>97979406
this is how they look in the box. Silver would make it look stand out but hmm I dont know. I am pretty undecided lol.
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>>97979464
that makes them look like awkwardly modeled stirrups. in that case I would paint them the same color as the rest of the saddlery. I wouldn't paint them in a metallic color because why the fuck do you think that part would be made out of metal?
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>>97979488
got it, thank you. You have no idea of the head ache that you saved me from.
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>>97979464
to be clear I would paint the parts outlined in green whatever leather color you want, and then black line where they merge into the boots.
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>>97979060
I use my feet.
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>>97979193
I knew in my heart this was the correct answer the whole time....fuck these nerds
>>97979083
>>97979170
In all seriousness thank you both I didn't know about digital calipers or gauge pins
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>>97979596
I still want to know what you're measuring.
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>>97978154
>You want the paint to be as thin as you can get it without it starting to flow everywhere and be hard to control, and absolutely not so thin that pigmentation starts breaking apart.
This is nonsense, you want the paint to be as thick as possible where it still 1) flows off the brush easily (a brush hydration issue that has little to do with thinning memes) and 2) levels to dry evenly. We're not living in the early 2000s any more, most paints are perfectly fine out of the bottle and some of the popular brands are borderline too thin as soon as they make contact with a wet palette (being formulated for airbrushes and cheapness).

Rinse and recharge your brush more, thin less. Especially as a beginner learning brush control and having problems flooding models. Keeps brushes in prime condition longer as well, you don't want paint sitting in the brush for minutes at a time.
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>>97979650
;-)
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>>97978406
You can see more of my stuff (and chat with me if you'd like) , my username is simpsominiatures on Instagram.

>>97979076
I'm not selling these guys, they are one offs intended to be used in photos for the system.
But I do get minis cast for fun. See Pic related.
I don't really sell stuff online , though I can be persuaded to. Usually I just show up to adcon or UTDF with a tacklebox full of models to sell. Thank you for the kind words.
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should I only use synthetic brushes if I want to use testors paint?
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>>97979650
Ok if one were to attempt to attach a flared wheel arch to the back of a converted Invader ATV, attempting to keep it in rough line with the wheel arch at the front, what instrument would one use to determine the distance between the phantom wheel arch piece and the structure of the little truck bed?
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>>97979681
this is becoming a lot more true but not all brands are pre-thinned or dry at the same speed.

>early 2000s
I still have some of those paint pots
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>>97979769
Understandable you'd want to keep them private if you are using them in a commercial work like that. Very great little collection of fellas, though. I would love to find some similarly uniquely scummy gentlemen to take out and about for photography. I feel like these guys would be excellent for street shots and alongside archetiture, contrasting their "natural ugliness" with "manmade ugliness".

Or some such shit, idk. They look good regardless, will def look up more of your work.
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>>97979781
if you can remove the wheels from the assembly then you can use a radius gauge to find the radius of the front part. if you can't remove the wheels you can shove a feeler gauge into the gap to measure how big it is.
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>>97979921
wait ignore that I was misreading your comment and completely ignoring the image. for that you either use a depth micrometer, or the tail of your calipers.
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Happy Friday /wip/, you survived another week.

Yet another halfling kitbash/conversion here. Still a work in progress. Wanted to go for a very aggressive and committed pose here. The posing itself can be read in a bunch of different ways. The forward arm may be pushing or grappling his opponent to drive the longsword through. Maybe he just angled and evaded a strike, and is following up with a counter thrust.

Unfortunately I got a little bit greedy with the tilting, and so his arms are just a few degrees off of the angle I was going for. Still a success overall I think though, and another demonstration of how versatile the halfling militia kit is. You can achieve a lot of different historical looks from the dark ages into the Renaissance, for inspiration. Anything from a rag-tag militia levy to a professional and formidable looking soldier like here.

After years of working with metal and other people's designs for several years, and the creative limitations that imposes on you it's been refreshing to work with plastic and be able to express myself and bring some of my creations to life, largely free of those limitations.
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I'm going to be giving Frostgrave a try soon, but I figured the only sensible thing way to do it would be to first paint up a full table of miniatures and terrain for it, got most of the enemies finished here, just have a couple vampires and my warband to go then it's a whole bunch of scatter terrain to be dry brushed as grey stone.
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Where can I buy cheaper vallejo paints? My LGS sells em for $6 each...
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I'm gonna work on my main project, but I also want to do a quick 1 session model sometime this weekend but I need to prime it tonight. So should I do
>Coomer kdm thing
>Goblin girl
>Necron
?
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>>97980317
Necron, make it chrome.
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Want to copy the cape, what colors do I need?
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>>97980382
A dark blue and a lighter blue. Or maybe some white to mix into it I guess.
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>>97980382
Blue, purple, pink and green.
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>>97979816
Oh it's not commercial, it will not be sold on shelves, just small print runs etc. The rules will be free online always in pdf form. But dm me , I have one or two slum lord guys I'm probably not going to use if you'd really like one :)
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is 1oz bags of random bits for 10 dollars each worth it
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>>97980849
NTA
>DM me
where do you think we are?
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>>97980863
from what kits? that seems high
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>>97980868
on his aforementioned instagram
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>>97980868
He shared his IG handle earlier in the thread.
He's also a cool fellow, so no hate here.
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>>97981246
>>97981269
Oh okay I hadn't noticed and assumed nobody would do that.
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Fire Raptor cockpit, pretty much done.
Part of me wants to try a green OSL from all the screes, but I'm more likely to fuck it up than get right.
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>>97976614
literally me
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Did some work and my third and fourth Lokhust Heavy Destroyers.
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>>97980799
Why wolves and not salamanders?
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that one time i did calligraphy in art class at middle school 20 years ago is paying dividends
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>>97981536
Decalfag.
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>>97980799
lmao the madman actually did it, nice job
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Another day, another mold training. Question - is the deformation seen on piece on the left most likely caused by uneven pressure from the block during curing, bad mold or too much material? How to tell?
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>>97981698
And of course, missed the picture.
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>>97975698
Did some work on my dark eldar last night, particularly pleased with my progress on my Archon, Lord Your-Face-is-My-Face. Not sure what direction to go with his half cloak and the hair on his helmet, what do you fellas reckon? Contrast or Compliment the deep, dark, purple armour?
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>>97981742
Depends on what you want. Contrast/complimentary (they're basically the same) for a more theatrical, loud, in your face, fantastical sort of feel. Analogous for a more harmonious, realistic, down to earth look.
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>>97981796
Mmm, then analogous is what I actually want. I'm aiming for them to be dark and menacing, I'm painting the army to match the description of the dark eldar in the book Brothers of the snake. So thanks, anon, I'll think on this further and get back to this archon later, I still have the rest of the troops to finish off.
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>>97981804
Fair, then I'd suggest either picking something close to purple on the color wheel, like blue or pink (not too bright though), or just a lighter purple. Otherwise pick a neutral, like bone or brown.

Probably don't go too dark so it doesn't fuse with the armor visually.
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Did the first pass at the hair on my goblin girl. I think I was kind of phoning it in early on but it turned out okay. I might clean it up a bit next time. I know I got some turquoise on the coveralls but I'm planning to rework those a bit so I'll just fix it when I get back to those colors.
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So many models

Hope my client likes these
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>>97981815
Will keep that in mind. Thanks, mate.
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>>97979769
do you spincast ast home?
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Just want to add that Dspiae modelling putty is actually quite good - similar in properties as Green Stuff/Milliput 50-50 mix, cost the same as Milliput. My only problem is rather quick curing - in theory, it should stay fully soft for 30 minutes but after 15 it started to get rather stiff, good enough for small details on the surface but general shape was more rigid. But it's not as brittle as Milliput.
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>>97981900
DSPIAE is imo underrated itt. I have multiple things from them and it's all really great stuff.
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Working on something new. Clowning around with these harlequins. Need more to make them pop.
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>>97981950
DSPIAE makes literally fucking anything, if you ever look through their full catalogue, 99% of it is utter slop gimmick products.
They make a couple good products though, they're more well known in the Gunpla community.
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>>97982185
>99% of it is utter slop gimmick products.
No, it is not. Can you show me these "slop gimmick" products?
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>>97982217
>he doesn't know about the wash-free airbrush
dspiae makes many good products, but most of them are either for extremely specific use cases (gimmick products), or are just plain bad (slop).
The reason they still have good products is because they make SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS
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>>97982235
to put it simply: dspiae are chinese greenstuff world
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>>97982235
>99% of them are slop gimmick
>well here is one thing that's completely fine, but has very specific use case
>but most of them are slop gimmick, just trust me bro
>THEY MAKE SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS
Anon, why are you talking about stuff you have virtually no knowledge about? Their catalog is pretty small. And yeah, they make one or two very specific things, but the majority of the their stuff is pretty basic, everyday use kind of things.

>>97982241
That is also completely wrong.
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Dspiae wash free airbrush.
Positive about dspiae: most of their tools are made of metal
Negative about dspiae: most of their tools are made out of chinese metal
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>>97982265
>99% of their products are slop gimmicks
>show me
>here's one ultraspecific thing, that means the remaining 98% are the same
Are you physically unable to debate things normally, without resorting to retarded generalizations and shitposting lingo?
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>>97982265
An airbrush made specifically for paint markers? This is the most hyperspecific, retarded thing I think I've ever seen. Sounds like it would just ruin your paint markers too while splattering paint on your minis.
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>>97982710
i see you have zero experience with gunpla
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>>97982841
NTA but I have experience with gunpla (moved to /tg/, /wip/ and miniatures in general to learn how to paint them and now love both worlds equally) and yet I still fail to see the use for this thing.
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>>97982710
It's not specifically made for markers, it's primarily made for bottled paints. But yes, it can take gunpla markers, too. Marker airbrushes are fairly common with gunpla, picrel. I have no idea what is that other retard trying to convey here.

>>97982862
>I have experience with gunpla
Obviously not.
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>>97981512
your guys look like they are made out of blue playdoh or something
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>>97982935
Dude, I have TWO cabinets full of those and actually about to run out of space.
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>>97983030
So what? Marker airbrushes are not even a new thing. You can even get a model from Mr. Hobby. You just wanted to shit on something for no good reason. Literal dunning-kruger.
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>>97983062
There is a good reason - it makes no sense. Either you paint with brush, airbrush proper or, for some odd reasons but hey never were truly popular, markers. Using some specific airbrush model for markers is simply silly.
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>>97983153
>doubling down
There are people who use them, major companies are making them, and they are not some extremely niche novelty either. I might personally not see much of a reason for using them, but that doesn't mean it's inherently something silly or retarded. That's a title for (you).
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>>97982265
how does that work?
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>>97983177
>doesn't mean it's inherently something silly or retarded
Not inherently, just for miniature painting, the venn diagram of the use cases for them and the needs of miniature painting, is two completely separate circles.
Although I imagine it ruins the paint marker rather quickly and leaves a lot of paint wasted inside it, blow drying is the worst thing you can do to markers.
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About half done my wizard and his warband.
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>>97983216
>I imagine it ruins the paint marker rather quickly
No, it doesn't. You run out of paint before this becomes a problem. And even if you hit that problem, you can switch marker tips, like with any other better marker.
Anon, why the fuck are you still talking about something you virtually have zero idea about?
>venn diagram for miniature painting
Good thing they are not for miniature painting then.
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>>97983258
>they are not for miniature painting
Great then you can stop fucking talking about them here in the miniature painting thread.
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>>97983260
You started talking about them, you braindead moron.
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>>97983263
No, I have made exactly two comments on the topic, idiot, you're now talking to two anons.
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>>97983289
>there are two drooling retards of one
Incredible news.
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>>97983237
Nice blues
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>>97983237
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>>97983335
It seems to me that far too few miniatures are painted with blonde hair. Usually people tend to only do it with elves IME.
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>>97983387
I do it with vampires. Honestly I think dark brown is the least common hair color I see painted, which is interesting since it is the most common or second-most common hair color in real life.
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>>97983237
Lovely blues, though the yellow/blonde parts definitly need some shading
>>97981841
Don't know about your client but I like them. Weathering feels very natural and looks good with the off white you went with.
>>97981836
I'm going to be honest I'm not sure about the blue/turquoise hair, I feel like it kinda clashes with the skin. Everything else is fantastic though, I especially like the skin and NMM.
>>97981742
I'd go for contrast myself to make him pop more but if obviously don't do that if you're looking for a more grounded scheme.
>>97981577
I really enjoy seeing your progress on this huge boy, what do the moonrunes say?
>>97981298
I love that metallic blue.
>>97980799
Drama aside this is a really cool project.
>>97977886
Good work anon, the Inquisitor is obviously the standout, I like how you did the sword.
>>97976596
It looks great now, I'm happy you managed to figure it out.
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>>97983387
Oh, I love blondes, I just thought it was funny how fucking blonde they all were.
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>>97983387
>blonde
here
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>>97983664
That is pre-wash and highlight, though after doing that they are still very blonde.
The wash I mixed up for it is an orangey-brown and it looks okay but I'm not sure it's the best choice for blonde.
Hold on for pictures, almost ready to post an update.
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>>97983802
I wouldn't go too orange or too dark. Blonde hair shades a desaturated light brown, not orange, and hair lets light through so doesn't have much contrast anyway. The highlights will desaturate it, taking away much of the overly yellow straw hat look.
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Apprentice, Wizard, Barbarian.
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>>97983903
Two Infantrymen, Man at Arms.
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>>97983907
Four Thugs.
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when you see a model painted like this what are your first thoughts
a. this dude needs to seriously improve his game
b. this dude is clearly experienced painter and knows how to cut corners with a style
c. why doesnt mine ever look like that

be honest now
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>>97983931
C, always C.
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>>97983691
David Bowie?!
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>>97983931
d. i don't like his colour scheme
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I dont know what to do here. Do I need brighter highlights? Darker shadows? Do I just start on the other colors?
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>>97983931
A. There are mistakes I don't think an experienced painter would make even when rushing
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>>97983931
>'thats pretty bad but at least its not grey'
sorry anon
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>>97983995
start by properly removing mouldlines
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>>97983237
Neat!
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>>97984023
Too late
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>>97983539
Animu-chan, I always look forward to your commentary kawaii desu necomata
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>>97983931
My first thought is "this painter isn't an expert but clearly better than me, so nice job". I guess that's a variant of c?
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I may have gone a bit overboard, but this makes me happy. I've been painting for almost two years now, but it feels like yesterday that I started.

Do you prefer a wide variety of paints, or do you mix what you need as you need it?
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>>97984220
Forgot the image
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>>97984059
Never too late. Scrape the mold lines and touch up with primer again, then paint normally. As for your original question, is it supposed to be grey armor? If that is the case then you need much darker shadows to make your midtone and highlights stand out, otherwise it will an indistinct grey blob.
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>>97984220
>>97984227
Somewhere in between. If I'm going to use a lot of something or (over on the scale model side) have a rather specific hue in mind then I'll probably just buy it. But I also mix stuff all the time. So over the years I've ended up with a whole bloody lot of paints, but not that kind of set with evenly spaced hues all across the rainbow.
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>>97984246
This is the way
I bet you paint coll is sexy anon
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>>97984220
>>97984227
i dont really understand this paint hoarding thing that has became a trend in the recent decade or so
guess it fills the same slot as people who generally purchase assortment of hobby gadgets but their angle is someone on youtube told them to do it
i have a paint for everything i need im not usually purchasing something i might have use for maybe sometimes in the future because why would i
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>>97984220
>new paints arrive
>feel compelled to buy more paint
It's unhealthy but I figure as long as I'm actually using the things (and for the most part I am), it could be worse.
It is a lot of fun to pick a small handful of paints and paint something with just those, and improvising mixes with them.
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>>97984259
>i dont really understand this paint hoarding thing that has became a trend in the recent decade or so
>he never saw the glory of the boomer scale modeller's paint collection
I pity you twice.
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>>97984059
>>97983995
I think you're making things a little harder for yourself than they need to be.
Based on the stage it seems like you're at, stop with the high tier, youtuber, subassembly-for-a-single-dude stuff and just throw the whole model together and paint it.
Timebox yourself to like 2, maybe 3 hours and just do a test paintjob. That way when you improve in a year you can spend the same 3 hours and actually see how much better you've gotten, As opposed to just confusing spending more time on a model with improving.
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>>97983387
>far too few miniatures are painted with blonde hair
I imagine that when they come out of their sarcophagi, all Blood Angels look something like Heath Ledger with some manner of blond-ish hair. What happens to them over the next 300-500 years of constant warfare, however...
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>>97984274
well most anons who complain about their mostly useless and enormous paint collections usually point the culprit beign youtube
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>>97984301
I haven't seen much of that, desu. But agreed that it's dumb to get things you aren't going to use. There is that sentiment that some people have that they need the best and most complete kit in order to get started. But filling out your range if you find that satisfying is totally fine. Way better than buying plastic you don't intend to finish painting, imo
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>>97984220
>>97984227
When I got back into painting I got the PA starter set (24 colors across a fairly wide range, lots of nice dark colors but needed some more reds imo) and some primer. After a few units I figured out what colors I prefer and use more than others and used that to determine what others colors I wanted to try next. Someone buying a big 50+ paint set right off the bat will probably end up with a lot of paints they never use, but everyone's an individual so what do I know.
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>>97984264
Yeah, picking a few and making a limited palette out of that is great
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>>97984321
yeah granted it must be hard to start tabletop in this day and age with zero experience
no more that codex/armybook shit where you were told straight away what paints to get, now you are bombarded from every direction to get this and this and buy that and that and mine is better than that other guys paints othervise you cant paint at all etc
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>>97984322
Anon who posted the rainbow image here. Yeah, I got into it in much the same way. Got a small set with like 8 colours, then expanded into singles for the colours I felt I lacked. The current set is all new, since I've mostly emptied my originals largely due to mixing. These paints will go with me to the library every week, were I hope the range and layout will help me explain warm and cold colours to people and help out with decision paralysis. Also, hopefully people will put them back in the right places when the expected pattern is obvious, lol
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Cannot think of a more retarded move than buying the whole range of paints from a single brand.

Just get whatever paints you truly need for the project youre invested in right now.
Once your collection of paints reach a decent size you'll notice you only need to get hyper specific colors as you can make do with the others you already own, thus saving money in buying stupid shit you dont need.

That way you ensure you get colors you really need and use.
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>>97984258
It's certainly very personal.
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>>97983931
If he has a whole army (or several) painted like this.. why not? It's painted, base is done. Looks good to me for gaming. Won't win any awards I guess, but I'm not a painting judge anyway. I just want to play against painted armies.
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>>97983931
>Is painting your hobby? -> garbage
>Is paying your hobby? -> its aight
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>>97984414
*playing
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>>97984259
Most online hobby stores have a certain amount you have to spend to get free shipping. I rather buy two or three pots of paint I might use one day with my order and get free shipping instead of paying the same money as shipping cost.
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Here is all I was able to paint in April, not counting some highlight additions and final touches I made today. The Advanced Heroquest project continues with a few more Chaos units and then the undead. I have a lot of cool models from the Night Horrors catalog that'll be fun to put a brush to.
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>>97984421
Yeah, this. My small city doesn't have a hobby store so I have to buy everything online. I'll often throw in a bottle of paint or some basing materials to get free shipping and it kinda adds up over the years.
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>>97983995
- Fully assemble the model. You can leave mouldlines at this stage if you are uncomfortable with removing them. It took me like 5 models before I even felt like I could see the mouldline properly.
- Prime it black
- View it under a strong, static light source from a specific angle and take note of the reflections. Take a picture, it often helps.
- Basecoat all of the colours. Leave the parts you can't reach or see easily black.
- Put your highlights where you saw the light reflected most on the black primer when you held it under the light.
- Edge highlight if you want

It's a pretty basic recipe, but it's served me well whenever I've felt lost. Hope it helps. Share more pics! Curious how you're thinking of painting your little mans.
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>>97984430
Gorgeous!
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>>97983931
Probably some form of B, but I don't think this tells me enough to say whether the painter is experienced or not. Either way, I like models that use a simple style, as long as it was intentional
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>>97983237
they have that vault boy color scheme
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>>97983995
you still didn't answer the question of what the hell you are trying to make it look like. why are you continuing to slop paint down without knowing that you are trying to do?
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>>97983968
He uses a bowie to give them an owie.
Sorry.
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>>97981836
I like the colour scheme. My first thought was solarpunk.
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dunno about the night lord cruiser colors but it was the best i could come up with
also some bfg dice
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>>97984557
fee, fie, foe, fum.
I smell the contrast medium.
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>>97984557
With that bright a blue I thought it was Thousand Sons.
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How much red is too much red on goffs?

I was painting Evil Sunz but I really don't like the red/yellow look. I'd like to include a lot of red into the goffs, but I'm not sure how much I can get away with.
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>>97984598
What kinda paint are you using anon?
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>>97984603
Acrylic?
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>>97984565
>>97984579
ive already painted pretty sizeable army with that blue but the issue is how do you color something that small with that much trim without painting it all and make it look presentable
my recipe is 2 coats of 1:3 stormfiend and lahmian medium topped off with tyran blue shade
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>>97984603
Army Painter Speedpaint, Vallejo Xpress and Citadel Contrast. Only the best.

Got a new AK Quickgen red on the way, too.
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Build and did the GS work on my Crucible Champion. I now see the mold line clearly.
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GW just threw me $15 in a voucher. I still need to get my WH+ model for the year so I do need to make an order anyway. Any suggestions for something to get? I'm thinking probably some contrast paints since I go to other brands now for new regular paint. I already have black templar, gulliman flesh, and skeleton horde, so any others that might be general good to haves?
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>>97984671
While I was at it, my Astorath and a Chaplain have fallen to Chaos. Because I could use a Huron.
Not sure what to use for the Hamadrya for him.
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>>97984236
I tried to clean up the mold lines best I could. It’s meant to be black/grey with a bit of purple. The lightest color I used is vallejo neutral gray, and the darkest is midnight purple.

>>97984277
The only reason I did subassembly is because the inside of the cape is basically impossible to paint when it’s all glued up. Regardless I think I’m just going to finish this mini and move on to the next one.

>>97984451
Thank you. I’ll post another pic when the model is done. I’m trying to get it done tonight because I’m going on vacation tomorrow and I want at least 1 mini more or less finished when I come back. Would hate to come back and still have nothing done
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>>97984699
Also I apologize for the shitty photos. Not sure what best way to photograph minis is.
Here’s a comparison with something primed black and something painted black so the color is more apparent
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Hated painting these, hate my paint scheme, hate my execution but thank Christ they’re done and all I have is death riders and touch up on some tanks before my guard army is done.
>>97978500
I know the feel
>>97980799
Masterpiece
>>97984614
I like the clean parts and the weathered parts, very sharp on either section
>>97984430
Great work, makes me want to drop money on a new HQ and the expansion
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>>97981639
that means nothing to me
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>>97983931
If I saw it from table height, then I'm not really going to be thinking about it at all other than that it's nice to see painted minis with done up bases. If I were examining it up close, then I can point out several flaws which do not impact its table presence in the actual game. My own paint jobs are fairly similar in quality anyway.
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Shoulders done. Gotta do the flamer and then it's time to start on the rider.
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I've decided to make some Orc/ks as well as my goblins so I can print and then paint some matching guys, what sorta proportions do people best like?

Thinking something like this but not feeling very sure
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>>97984699
Nice work on the jewels
Seems like a pretty tough model, and painting black is always tricky. Good luck anon, and hope you enjoy your holiday
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>>97984731
Looks alright, anon.
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>>97985050
are you making a little person or are you making a person
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>>97984699
stop dodging the question motherfucker what are you trying to make it look like? how can you ask for help when you can't even say what you are trying to do?
>It’s meant to be black/grey with a bit of purple.
paint? metal? plastic?
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>>97985217
Miniatures are little people yes.
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>>97985007
>unimaginative eavy metal and instagram lighting

clean but no skill, as they say
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>>97975908
>>97975908
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>>97984430
Those are really banging dude
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>>97985458
Post models with timestamp, I want to be inspired by a Real Master Painter.
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>>97985548
it's the same retard that started shitposting against btanon, got assblasted and now is trying to do it with blanon

dont reply before it shits up the thread again
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>>97985559
no it isn't, because that's me, and I was never assblasted
I pointed out he's nothing special and you got mad on his behalf
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Does anyone ever paint the stuff in their armies entirely different colors? I'm thinking about doing that for my Orks where unless they have a specific clan affiliation I just paint what colors I like on them.
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>>97985617
Maybe one unifying color on each ork somewhere, something not tied to a kulture.
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>>97982185
Their only worthwhile products are the nipper dspiae 3.0 (good for the price) and affordable chisel really. Oh and their changeable brush head are fine for the price, i guess. The rest of their products are overpriced rubbish
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Just completed this one
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>>97982042
You should mod the top middle model into picrel.
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>>97985673
Not a bad idea. I was thinking of making the trim black on their armor, not sure if that would stand out though as a unifying color.
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>>97985584
O beware, my anon, of jealousy; It is the green-eyed monster which doth mock the meat it feeds on.
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>>97982710
They existed before but I known them to be used for alcohol markers.
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>>97983237
Where'd you get the Red Sonja?
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>>97985887
I got that off a russian frostgrave channel on telegram.
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If you still have it, post your first mini and your most recent one, and how long you’ve been painting for. I’m curious.

>>97985062
>>97985200
Thanks. Got busy and couldn’t finish the mini, unfortunately. I might try an ink wash to darken all those crevices a little and maybe cover up some of my mistakes.

>>97985267
I imagine that Eldar armor has the texture and feel of satin plastic.
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>>97986103
ok so you want it to look like satin plastic. your first problem is that it looks too textured. your base coat is chunky and the light purple is swirly so it looks brushed on instead of being part of the material. you can't get rid of texture by painting over so you have to strip it and start over. focus on getting your base color down with out any roughness or texture and then hit it with a semi-gloss clear. if it's still too shiny you can knock it down by rubbing a dry magic eraser on it. from there you can think about using a wash for shading or any other effects you want. now maybe you are thinking 'but I don't want to start over," but recognize that if your foundation looks like shit anything you put on top if it will look like shit too, and trying to pretend you can fix it with some magic trick is just coping.
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motherfucker stop spamming your garbage eldar with mouldlines
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>>97976148
It looks really great, but are you aware that most epoxies yellow really hard over time? Some will be almost orange or brown after ~10 years. Did you source a special one?
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>>97975739
Nice
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>>97979772
Why not
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>>97985731
Something is eerie about this image and I like the artistry of it.
Even the lighting for this photo is well done in setting the intended mood.
Good job anon.
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I got a big pack of Swedish Dish cloths.
Can these be used as a replacement for the sponges?
Just asking in case there is a rare chance that using a Swedish dish cloth instead of a sponge for a DIY wet palette summons mustard gas.

Also the Vallejo Model Color wet palette tutorial by Vallejo is still up and public despite Vallejo selling a wet palette.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMPn5po5-m0
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>>97984430
Nice. I would watch their adventures while eating a bowl of sugary cereal. Guy on the right end is my fave.
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>>97986811
I should have included this in the post I made with the wet palette video link.
What even is that DIY wet palette's container's measurements supposed to be?
What is it supposed to hold?
Kind of weird seeing a plastic box that small.
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>>97986811
I sometimes wonder what the first appearance of the wet palette was on the mini painting scene. The Red Grass games kickstarter was from about the same time as this video, I wonder which was first

Wet palettes basically went from being an unheard of concept to being the assumed default in a span of a couple years
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>>97986849
Keep in mind that Vallejo is a Spanish company. Most Spanish men carry around a small personal container to hold sliced cured meats. They were historically made of wood, shell, porcelain, etc. but like everything else they started to become mass produced in plastic in the late 90's and beyond
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I was suggested to visit here from the Share Thread, since the /HowToPaint archive seems to have been dead for the last year+. Any chance anyone here has an alt link/backup to it?
You guys have some great info in the OP so definitely appreciate the redirect regardless.
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>>97982710
everyone in /gpg/ thought it was retarded too
most gunpla painters use normal fucking airbrushes, and anyone who says otherwise is baiting
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>>97986898
i have never even read the op
one day i will and i will be pleasantly surprised
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>>97986862
I'm sure wet palettes were a thing since the invention of acrylics. Just guessing.
The miniature painting space usually plays catch up to other mediums that require artistic talent.
There's probably still treasure troves of makeup related stuff that can be utilized for mini painters.
The makeup racks are the big ones.
>>97986893
>small personal container to hold sliced cured meats.
Do you know what these were called?
Given the hands for reference that plastic box might be a container for stacks of photographs or a pencil case.
Just guessing.
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Lets hear it
Which miniature did you enjoy painting the most?
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>>97984430
Love the pinks. What is your recipe
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>>97987131
Idk, anon. I basically hate painting miniatures. I'm here because I felt I deserve to live in my own personal hell.
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>>97987131
It's not very close, this sculpt has the perfect level of detail.
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>>97987139
I cant imagine hating myself so much that I'd devote my sparse free time in an activity I despise
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>>97986598
uh oh angry
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>>97987180
Great mix of textures, couple of details to show off control without looking visually confusing/messy. Who's the creator, and is this indicative of most of their stuff?
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>>97986862
I've been using one way longer that that and I'm a casual.
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>>97986996
>small personal container to hold sliced cured meats.
>Do you know what these were called?
Contenedor de chorizos
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>>97987200
I feel like you just reeled this post off without even giving it a millisecond of actual thought.

What do you say to someone who likes,

- building miniatures
- converting miniatures
- playing games that use miniatures
- even just the aesthetic sculptural qualities of miniatures

That they should quit all of those activities if they don't like painting the miniatures? Or that they should leave their miniatures unpainted? Because those are the only two positions if you can't imagine someone painting miniatures without liking it.
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>>97987131
Recent re-do of my first non-starter set HQ. Old model's details have soul
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>>97987357
Not painted yet, but kitbashing some Killa Kans and a trukk for my small armies project was a lot of fun.
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>>97987131
Lord of Change, but I might be biased because I love the model so much.
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>decide to paint up some 30k tokens with airbrush
>red and blue go on mostly fine
>yellow and orange act up like a bitch when, gone over them twice of varying consistency and they still have black areas

I suppose these are indeed fussy colors, might have to drybrush and see what happens. Regardless, I plan to do a bit more with them; for the purposes of a token, would a wash be any good or would it detract their visibility? I plan to paint the raised areas in black, although I wouldn't know what to paint the numbers as, it's higher than the rest while the recesses fill out the design on that side.
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Question - I'm looking to recreate the city bases showed on this video by Duncan but I'm not sure if I should base the model first or do the base and then glue the model on. Any ideas on which is bette?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA5dRjrmIGg&t=1271s
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>>97987475
did you prime them first
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>>97987485
Yes, albeit just in black.
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>>97987487
well theres your problem
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>>97987487
>black
Yeah there's your problem. Prime them white or light grey and you'll only need to airbrush a single coat on.
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>>97986152
Nta but good advice. However, I am with anon in that I'd rather finish a messed up model with the mistakes intact and then do it right on the next one. It's helpful for learning since you have a reminder, stripping is ass, and I don't like to feed a ctrl z mentality (unless I actually only have one of the model and need it perfect for some reason, like commission work)
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>>97987494
>>97987498
Admittedly I haven't had a lot of experience with painting bright colors, duly noted. At least a local store here now stocks Vallejo primer of all sorts of colors, but admittedly I haven't tried anything that wasn't just black or dark grey (as per one anon's suggestion) in other projects. So I suppose I might as well also ask if anyone finds given non-neutral primer useful for anything in particular.
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>>97987503
We prefer to work up from very dark colours, so black is our favourite. We actually had this same question, so we primed the same mini in three different colours: black, grey, and white, and painted it with the same paint job. The black was by far the fastest and cleanest, largely because there was no need to darken down the recesses.

After that test, we decided that bright primers are mainly useful if you want to use contrast paints or primarily very bright colours without needing to layer them up.

Yellow, red, and orange in particular have poor coverage over black. If you do have black, try coating it with brown first, then the colour you want.
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>>97987529
I've also heard of people painting pink over yellow first. But I've only tried that on very small parts like cables and so I wouldn't know if it made much difference in the end.
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>>97987503
>>97987529
Actually, our question was about dark vs bright primers, and your question was about neutral vs non-neutral primers. I have to say, we don't really use coloured primers, but I could see them being useful if your first step is going to be just basecoating in a specific colour anyway and you want to save time. You'd probably need to do washes to darken the recessed though, unless you used something like dark blue or purple, or you want coloured recesses.
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>>97987535
You mean painting yellow over pink? It works well for translucent yellows, like speedpaints or airbrush layers. I haven't tried it with regular acrylics, to be honest. I usually still prefer yellows over browns (which gives a darker yellow than over pink) and then layering up lighter yellows on the darker yellow. I feel like regular acrylic yellow over pink might be good and bright but might need a few coats to cover completely too. Good thing to do an experiment with and get a feel for how they work, though. That's the best way to get an accurate sense, I should think. Post the results if you try it!
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>>97987577
>You mean painting yellow over pink?

Yeah, I fucked up the order there and that's what I meant.

>>97987548
Generally speaking, you're meant to paint over primer though, right? That's what has me curious about colored primer, which I suppose lends to cases like the above in augmenting the basecoat that comes on after, but considering how many of them were basically varied military colors, perhaps they're simply not useful for miniatures in the same capacity.

For washes, it's probably going to be simple black or dark brown before a drybrush to see how bringing back the color looks before deciding on the rest. In any event, certainly learning on the way.
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>washed the sword with a black wash
>It’s been almost two days and the wash still hasn’t dried
What the fuck man?
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>>97987694
Is it an oil wash you made yourself?
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>>97987698
It’s just acrylic craft paint wash, I mixed the black paint with some retarder and water
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>>97987707
>craft paint
rip. It might just be glossy, though.
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>>97987711
But people make washes with craft paint all the time. Why the hell hasn’t it dried yet though?
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>>97987721
Because it's a dogshit craft paint, anon. There's a reason why craft paint and craftsperg are memes itt.
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>>97987610
>Generally speaking, you're meant to paint over primer though, right?
It's more accurate to say that you should have primer under paint. There's no rule saying you have to paint over a primer. You can absolutely use your coloured primer layer as if it were a basecoat. I'd recommend layering up highlights on top of it, of course, but if you are painting a blue man, and you've primed it blue, you don't also need to paint it blue over the primer. It's already blue.
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>>97987734
But i’ve been using craft paint for this whole mini... The only problem is this stupid wash.
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>>97987754
>use dogshit inconsistent tool
>why is my tool inconsistent?
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>>97987721
My guess is that it has formed a tiny film over the liquid layer. You can't see it or feel it, but that prevents evaporation/drying. Maybe oils in the paint, or in whatever container you mixed it in? That'd be my guess, anyway, I don't use craft paints.
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>>97987757
I bought too many cheap crap paints, i just want to use them up before moving on to vallejo and shit so i don’t feel bad about myself, man…
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>>97987775
Keep them around for big chunks of shit you don't care about. Terrain, bases and such. It's acrylics, they have a ridiculous shelf life if stored properly. Tho you never know with craftshit.
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>>97987775
Save them for terrain projects if you are into that.
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>>97987610
>curious about colored primer
I've been wanting to try a purple primer for a while, but haven't found one that's dark enough for me. I think I'd rather airbrush than go ham with coloured primers, since the main use case I can think of (apart from starting with a full coloured basecoat) is coloured lighting/glows and I think an airbrush gives you better control.
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>>97987775
If they are as cheap there as they are here, I'd just eat the cost / save them for the real grunt work yeah. Here I can get a full 24 set rainbow of craft paints for the price of like 6 real mini paints. Respect for painting that nicely with those paints though, I'm sure the practice will have given you a lot of perspective and control.

I painted almost exclusively with craft paints for my first 6 minis or so (didn't know any better and had inherited like 100 different tubes from a friend who had to flee the country because she'd received a traffic fine in Saudi Arabia they hadn't paid, and the Saudis had a treaty with our country, and she and her partner were getting charged with like a 20k dollar fine that seemed like it was going to court). Anyway, moving off of craft paints was a fantastic experience.
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>>97987484
It'll be easier to do the base first and then glue the model on.
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>>97987707
sounds like the problem is the retarder it made you use craft paint
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>>97987977
toplel
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I can achieve above tabletop ready results with craft paint just fine :)
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>>97987985
Ah, classic.
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>>97987694
Oils take forever to dry, shouldve used rinse aid.
>>97987985
I don't get it, this looks fine?
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Any recommendations for a brush on (acrylic) satin varnish that's actually satin and not glossy? Alternatively a matte varnish that's satin. I need to give some belts more of a leathery luster
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>>97988044
>Oils take forever to dry, shouldve used rinse aid.
I know, but its acrylic...
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>>97988090
oh its other anon who said oil.
there must be something wrong with the retarder.
wipe it, get dishwasher rinse aid to make wash and do it over.
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Getting set up to paint some stuff after more than a decade. Do you do your bases with the model glued onto it or do you stick them on onto finished bases?
I never used texture stuff before but now I want to do martian style bases quickly, and it would be so, so much faster and hassle free to do them without maneuvering between the many limbs to slather it on and then drybrush and stuff. But won't it be a problem to get a model onto a porous uneven surface? Might not hold well and also might look weird, hovering instead of being sunk a little like if you do it the normal way.
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>>97988044
>I don't get it, this looks fine?
Hey, craftsperg.

>>97988044
>Oils take forever to dry
>two days max
>forever
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I'm pretty decent mini painter and got an airbrush to up my skin tone game and how the fuck do you not spray paint everywhere with these? Constantly tip drying out, splattering paint etc.

Air brushes just a meme? Way more work for stuff I can do faster and more controlled with a brush.
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>>97988156
just do the cereal bases routine like everyone else
matte varnish will most likely kill the shine if you have to use whole tube of superglue to get youre model glued into the separate painted base
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>>97988188
>I just got a new tool
>why am I not immediately good with it
Are you retarded?
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>>97987249
Vae Victis. Not sure if it's indicative of their other work, this is the only sculpt I own from them. I purchased it as a 3D print from an Etsy seller (I don't own a printer).
I found out (long after buying the mini) that they also make titty models under the name "Bae Victis" lol
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>>97988181
>two days max
retard who's never used oils before
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>>97988326
I was just about to say, anons ITT have quoted a week or more at times
>t. retard who's never used oils before



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