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>Your brother Rhaegar... whatevah happened there...
If I were Stannis I would have married Val myself, killed Jon and declared myself king beyond the wall with the Nightfort as my seat of power.
>>203058263S1 dany was actual perfection.
>>203058205Would have been nice to be her rapist
>>203058322Val is an Other wearing a glamor. Mance Rayder is Rhaegar wearing a glamor. The only person who is who they say they are in the norf is Jon and Sam, although Sam might be a bastard.
>>203058322Why didn't he just burn the wall
>>203058263HOTDxirs......
It's funny how redditors in the HotD general circlejerk each other about the show while Condal and Hess butcher the books more and more. Like not showing Alicent's best moment.
>>203058356>Val is an Other wearing a glamorEven better, her winter magic would make me a king to be feared and respected.
>>203058205>>203058263Gob bless Emilia Clarkes lips.
>>203058322Dumb, most of the castles are abandoned on the Wall. The biggest is too. He should've just taken that one at least, then he can have a toehold in the North to work from.
>>203058254>WHATEVAH HAPPENED THERE? WHATEVAHHH HAPPENED THERE?>I'LL TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED, THAT BARATHEON CLUCK, ROBERT, CAVED MY LITTLE KID BROTHER'S CHEST IN WITH A FUCKING WARHAMMER>MY KID BROTHER RHAEGAR, WITH 2 KIDS, WHATEVER HAPPENED THERE, WAS KILLED WITH THE WAR HAMMER WITHOUT ANY PROVOCATION!
>>203058356>Sam is both so fat and quik to build muscle because he's a Robert bastard
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>>203058449And eyebrows!
>>203058602>Randyll Tarly actually got clucked by Robert
>>203058602>Robert is a cuck who fucks Jaime's sloppy seconds and raised his children>Sam is a cuck who fucked Craster's sloppy seconds and (attempted to) raise his childIT FITS
Did people forget he's supposed to write Fire and Blood II too?
>>203058712Get in line, we're still waiting for She Wolves of Winterfell.
>>203058712He definitely did
>>203058712we definitely NEED him to finish a lore book that overlaps heavily with both Dunc and Egg and the original series. I can't think of a single think he should treat as higher-priority.
>>203058712He will write Storm and Semen, a book about Robert's Rebellion (its only Robert fucking every girl he encounter and making the 8)
>>203059356>it turns out Robert was always a little bitch and didn't fuck that many girls>all the lowborn prostitutes laugh at his tiny penis>baratheonfags all kill themselves>the thread finally returns to Targ supremacyIt would be kino
Fucking Renly and his power rangersshould have bent the knee
>>203059585>It's over Stannis... I have the Peach
it's hilarious how GRRM is making us wait for a blog postwe are always waiting for him to write things
>>203059603AAAAARRRRGHHHHHH
>>203059657can't wait for it to drop so i can see the usual suspects try and say grrm is wrong and condom and mess are actually the superior writers
>>203059670>What? Are you a ham? :^)
>>203059356Would unironically love it.
Oh no. Oh no, no, no, no. Oh my God, no. What happened?
>>203059766seeing the shills coping will be fun, especially Alt Shift X and Preston's friend
>>203059766>can't wait for it to drop so i can see the usual suspects try and say grrm is wrong and condom and mess are actually the superior writersThey will also say that the GoT is overrated and not better than HotD.
>>203059868I remember the first time I saw the music video for Complicated. I fell in love with her. I used to put MTV on when I was going to bed because they played it every night. Fapping to that music video was my nightly ritual. I am very old
>>203058240I genuinely, genuinely cannot understand how YouTards like DragonDemands, Preston and Carmine are extrapolating this post + all of GRRM's disengaging from HotD's writing process + his latest "ominous" blogpost to mean "nah he's fine with Season 2 guys it's all good"
>>203059901disappointed in alt shift x and glidus. i don't know why they're so lenient in all this when it's the same, or quite possibly worse than what dabid and dan did.also preston and his friend were like "noooo why are they being mean to sara hess and not ryan condal" it's because she keeps saying retarded shit, guys, and her retardation keeps showing itself in the writing
>hoooo boy lemme tell ya>this trip's been a doozy>i had to tour around, walking everywhere>people praising me left and right>getting comp'd left and right>its all so exhausting>HOTD, am i rite? (looks to see if you're in agreement)>btw its god damned hippy whatever day here in santa fe>gonna burn an effigy of christ or something>might borderline sexually harass a few cute girls>we'll talk HOTD later, cyaFINISH GOT, FINISH DUNK & EGG.FINISH, FAT MAN. FINISH!
>>203059585He was right not to. Ever since the reign of Jaehaerys the institution of the Faith and the Iron Throne were bound together. The king is the defender of the Faith. Stannis publicly following a foreign goat fucker religion means his claim to the throne is baseless and illegitimate.
>>203051809Kudos on being the nicest person on 4chan.
>i know a super uber secret>but i'm not saying :) tee hee
>>203060172The information is out there, it isn't "hidden" and it isn't exclusive
>>203060060it's nothing new with Alt Shift X, it took him a long time to be critical of season 8 and his criticism is still mildPreston has shat a lot on this season though, I think he is not very critical of Sara Hess because he loved episode 2 which she wrote, what's funny is how his friend was saying GRRM would never say anything bad about season 2
>>203060225what is it, then? did he just give up? If he just came out and said "guys I've written myself into a corner and I see no genuine way out of it" I think I'd genuinely respect Gurm for being honest. It'd be annoying, sure, but at least people could say "fuck it we'll do our own end"
>>203060266I'm not gonna say out of respect for Carmine because people will just think it's me coming out to share it through anonymous channels
>>203060146True but renly is gay so…
>>203060308lol
>>203060266It's been 13 years and he says he's 3/4ths of the way done with WindsYou just need to have a little faith
>>203060308
>>203060340By my calculations if he continues at the same rate it won’t be finished for another 8.5 years
>>203060308You can just say the reason is that he found out Boogie2988 had (fake) cancer and has been devastated ever since
>"I--I'm gonna write a blogpost on my thoug--"George.
if you could go back, and not read/watch any of it, would you?
>>203060448lmao perfect
>>203060514No.It's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
Gurm found out he had AIDS didn't he
I watched the main 7 seasons of GoT, and I watched the clips of Season 8 online. Peaked in season 4 overall, but the other seasons have good action and build up. Seasons 1-4 is the most consistent, while 5-7 varies a lot. I am glad I didn't watch Season 8 after seeing the clips of the dumb stuff. Did they pay the writers less near the end or something?
>>203060453>>"I--I'm gonna write a blogpost on my thoug--"
I sure am glad George is taking time off from finishing his book to work on all these terrible adaptations, if only we could we have seen the bloodmoon pilotI'm sure it will do wonders to his legacy after the fat fuck dies
Boaric Dondarrion
>>203060710the BOAR IS PREGNANT NED
>>203060710>Robert Boaratheongrrm I kneeeel
>>203060317Reny being a closeted fag but married, producing heirs and paying lip service to his religious duties is a lot more acceptable than a man who burns fellow Westerosi alive in demonic blood magic rituals. I don't understand people who think Renly is worse than Stannis. Renly never had any intentions to kill Stannis until after the parlay and even then gave explicit orders than his body not be defiled. While Stannis was planning Renly's murder with disgusting blood magic from day 1 to take his Stormland banners.
>>203060739>I TOLD YOU THE BOAR WAS IMPREGNATED BY THOSE TARGARYEN FILTHY SHITS, NED
>>203060831Your mother was a dumb boar with a fat ass, did you know that?
>tells you how much he intends to write things
>>203060818>renly never had intentions to kill one of his primary rivals for the crownYeah okay buddy, this is about the level of discourse I expected from people who unironically support Renly.
>>203060818Why couldn't Renly just accept Stannis' offer of being his heir? It's not like Stannis' seed was strong at all, he was not getting any sons any time soon
>ywn live in the timeline where Catelyn used her motherly instincts to shame Renly and Stannis into cooperating and they take King's Landing together and then reign with Stannis as king and Renly as his hand like Aegon III and Viserys
>>203060858you JUST know
They'll eventually make a Valyria show and the Targaryens will be the only white dragonriders.Screencap this.
>>203060899Catelyn purposely failed at every diplomatic task because she is an agent of the Others, acting in their behalf as to further chaos in Westeros
>>203060146What's the faith's stance on the old and drowned gods? Vague tolerance? Ostracization? Active conversion?
>>203060899Would Stannis really need a Hand? He'd be a very hands-on king, he doesn't spend his days drinking and wenching.
>>203060739>the BOAR is a fucking WHORE, so now we must go to WAAAAAR before they are on our SHORES Ned!
>>203060881Ego
>>203060979I think their stance is to be as farther away as possible from anything relating the Iron Islands
>>203061011Isn't the whole point of Davos is that he needs a dude who can negotiate on staff to be his Hand
>>203060831Is this what Ned thought before dying?
sex with _______?
>>203061069lukebro
>>203060869I don't necessarily support Renly I just think Stannis is no more legitimate due to being a heretic who does disgusting things. And yes there is no indication Renly wanted to Harm Stannis until after the meeting at Storms End. Stannis was no threat to Stannis, Stannis was useless and unpopular and needed foreign blood magic to even gain an army. >>203060881Stannis was only in his mid thirties when the war started. Renly was vain and wanted to be a young King and was hugely overconfident with his Tyrel backing and sheer popularity over his brother. No one wanted Stannis as King why not give the people what they want instead. >>203060979After thousands of years of existing on the same continent I guess it's vague tolerance of the status quo. Even more so since the Targaryen's established a united realm, the faith is probably satisfied with being the ruling religion.
>>203060818>So anyways, when you guys are done killing my brother, try not to mutilate his corpse too much lol, anyways, you guys have fun planning, I've got another squire to groom into faggoty.
>>203061011>>203061065exactly. Stannis can RULE but he needs a charismatic Hand who can sell his plans to the rest of the realm. Davos is pretty good at it but Renly would be even better because everyone loves him
>>203061091*no threat to Renly
>>203061011Stannis needs someone to guide him when he goes overboard with his justice. He's too rigid.
>>203061065>>203061117Yeah, you're right, I guess he needs a Hand to deal with anything non-autistic.
>>203060909
>>203061126That's literally Davos
>>203061215shut the fuck up, faggot
OiWhy didnt the Targs try to take Dorne before the dance? They had an entire family of dragons and still had Vhagar too.
>>203061117>>203061176>>203061215And the best thing is that Stannis is actually aware of how flaws and appointed Davos specifically to cover them, yet another thing that makes him king
>>203061278they did at least twice but got owned because the Dornish are masters of gorilla warfare
>>203061278Dornish girls are too sexy and targs kept accidentally marrying and allying them rather than subjecting them
It’s bad writing that renly had so much support despite being gay and that stannis is so unpopular. In what world is Randall Tarly picking the poofta over stannis, cmon George
Gay mods have made it that the webm of Daenerys walking into that bath cannot be uploaded.
>>203061278The Dornish refused to engage and ran away every time the Targaryens came to kill them. One of Aegon the Conqueror's wives was killed by the Dornish and they spent 2 years following that death burning every castle Dorne had three times over.When the Targaryens "conquered" the ruins of Dorne with their own people the Martells organised an event called The Defenestration of Sunspear by throwing the overseer of "Conquered Dorne" out of a window.I think it's one of the cooler moments in that age.
>>203061107>another squire to groom into faggoty.Show me where Renly was sleeping with anyone other than Loras. Stannis is a hypocrite and no better than Renly. There is a reason no one liked him or flocked to his cause. Stannis pretends to respect the laws and customs of the realm but follows a evil foreign religion invalidating his claim. Stannis pretends to respect marriage vows but sleeps with another woman.
>>203058205What's this news about GRRM complaining about HOTD?
>>203061451check his blog but the gist is >>203058624
>>203061421Why did Dorne join the realm with Dareon when there seems to literally be no positive for them to do so at that time? Like, the dragons are gone and you're surrendering sovereignty to gain....a bit of temporary power over your neighbours? Not a great deal
>>203061442>Stannis pretends to respect marriage vows but sleeps with another woman.Not by choice or by desire.
>>203061421How embarrassing to the other Kingdoms who meekly surrendered to the Targshits.
>>203061091Renly would have been a good king. Or at least in the upper tier of all Westerosi kings, given the low standards.Sure he was vain but he was still a more moral person than Robert who did a pretty decent job. I can imagine him appointing really solid advisors and ruling fairly. Plus in order to be king he'd have to crush the Lannisters which would eliminate his most powerful potential dissenters. The Renly/Robb alliance if it had gone ahead would have been the best possible outcome for the realm.Stannis would only be "just" in so far as the red woman would let him. He'd be vastly unpopular and there'd be many uprisings within his time. He'd be another Maekar at best, and Maegor at worst.
>>203058205based /ecg/ veterans
>>203061499>Not by choiceyes by choice
>>203061583Renly would be assassinated when his gayness becomes more open
>>203058205>Still wants to write more Dunk and Egg >Fire and Blood 2 >Winds of Winter >Song of SpringThat fat fuck better have his notes written down and compiled so when he dies someone can publish that shit otherwise there will be mass pissing/shitting on his grave
>>203061716By who? He'd have Varys and Littlefinger executed on day 1.
>>203061748the faith
>>203061583The big problem with Renly is it creates a similar issue to what happens if the Blackfyres won. It just encourages more war and house strife as it normalises hereditary succession as actually being rather meaningless. You get some second/third/whatever son or bastard son that thinks they should be ahead of their older/legitimate brother on account of being more popular or having been given a 'sign' by their father they are actually the heir. Short-term perhaps Renly would have been a better king than Stannis but, medium-to-long terms it is opening a can of worms that destabilises Westeros.
>>203061215Exactly. Davos is the perfect right hand man for Stannis, as he has his trust, is loyal and always there to set him back to the right path.
>>203061421>they spent 2 years following that death burning every castle Dorne had three times overHow the fuck did Dorne recover from this?
>>203061823Which would be interesting considering that Stannis has sent Davos away in Dance so Stannis would be going into Winds without the person who is tardwrangling him. Chances are Stannis would probably get mogged post Battle of Ice
>>203061775The faith tolerated open Targaryen incest as long as they kept the faith as the ruling religion. They're not going to care about a closeted King as long as he does his religious duties and publicly respects the faith. Stannis on the other hand would face a faith uprising or assassination. Following a demonic blood magic religion and burning Westerosi is too much.
>>203061748He is only followed because he his followers think hes a young Robert gigachad daemon blackfyre type, what do you all those chuds they will do when they find out he’s zesty on the dl? They will caltrop his ass
>>203061938He might do something crazy like, I dunno, burn his daughter?
>>203061775Pre-faith militant they were relatively powerless to assassinate a king. If Renly becomes king at the time of ACOK then there's no one to empower the faith. Plus with Loras and Brienne in his kingsguard he's pretty well looked after.
>>203061926>says the maester propaganda
>>203061804All Renly has to do is play into the fact Stannis is a heretic who follows a non-Westerosi religion and invalidates his own claim because of it. The Iron Throne is tied to the Faith.
>>203061938>>203061983Many clowned on D&D for that, and while the 20 good men thing is ridiculous, without Davos there to guide him I can see Stannis doing the same in the books.
>>203061926I think it might've been twice over, I think I misspoke there. Don't know how it was fixed up afterwards. I imagine houses such as Yronwood, Uller, Vaith, and Allyrion just rebuilt?
>>203061069Sheepstealer
>>203061583>a more moral person than RobertHe is literally described as a younger if a bit gayer version of Robert, with all the good and bad that implies. He was as big a hedonist as Robert and as amoral as him. Arguably even weaker willed. Not to mention the whole abandoning Ned and usurping his own brother thing, which is doubly funny since depending on if he actually believed the claim about Robert's children, would either be Stannis, since by the law of succession he'd be the next in line after Robert since he had no true born heir, or Robert, since he'd be trying to steal the throne from his son and heir.tl;dr: Renly is as amoral as everyone else in King's Landing.
>>203062019All stannis had to do was play into the fact that renly was a degenerate who takes it up the ass and invalidates his own claim because of it. He should have sent a letter to every house like he did with Jaime and Cersei fucking and it would be over for him
>>203061278For the same reason the Roman's just built a fuck off wall to separate itself from the northern and eastern parts of Europe instead of going all-in: The cost heavily outweighed the benefits. Dorne is a shithole desert with nothing of value.
>>203061583It just seems with Renly you change a Lannister-dominated court with a Tyrell and their cronies run court. Arguably that is better but, it is not truly much of an argument that Renly would in actuality be a good king. Moreover, is Renly even that moral? His bid to become king is ultimately not driven by any fundamental desire for good, he is driven by the vanity that he should be king. His argument for why he should be king is ad populum, and more simply underlyingly one that is might makes right - neither are proper arguments for Renly being a good king or moral person.
>>203062060Both Robert and Renly are significantly more moral than most of the people in kings landing. They're flawed people who have done bad things but Cersei, Littlefinger, Varys, Joffrey, The Hound etc... are all genuinely blackhearted villains. Not to mention most of the kingsguard being complete reprobates.
People really act like Isaac is the worst Bongenes disaster. Not even close
ITS FRIDAY
>>203058205>OurDirty commie. She's mine. If any of you faggots want her, you'll have to kill me first.
>Lord Renly Baratheon is an ass Muncher!
>When King Maegor I Targaryen decided to take another wife, Grand Maester Benifer suggested Clarisse Dayne as a possible match in the hopes of detaching House Dayne and their lands from Dorne.Based Benis.
>>203062093Sorry Stannis fags. Demonic goat fucker religions and their followers have no legitimacy or place in Westeros.
>>203062182A distinction without a difference. Cersei's biggest actual crime until her murder of Robert was cucking him.
>>203058205>posting in a GOT gen
>>203062265Sorry Renly, we can't have you here in our social club no more.
>watched most of the hotd finale>bedtime, will watch the last 20-30 mins tomorrow>pick up where I left off>credits roll 10 seconds laterGod damn that was a letdown
OFFICIAL /got/ REWATCH STARTING 9PM ESThttps://cytuDOTbe/r/MKthreadsInstructions https://cytuDOTbe/google_drive_userscriptSeason 4 episode 7
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>>203062351it's go time
what killed the hype?
>>203061730And a novella about Nettles and her life post Daemon break up
>Vaegon and Saera's reaction to the Dance of the Dragons holy based
>>203062167I hate to say it but the realm has no direction without the Targhits. Targaryen supremacy bs did give a allure of legitimacy that kept the other houses in line. Now that's gone all the other houses will eternally scheme to get their house on the throne. Without a Targaryen restoration the whole rotten structure might as well come crashing down and sperate Kingdoms again.
>>203062351episode 6*
>>203061730>all this bullshit>no story about sothoryos or the summer islesREEEEEEEEE
For me it's Meryn Trant. Any coward can stand up for his "principles" but only a true knight can do his duty no matter grim it may seem.
>>203062437Vaegon saw the writing on the wall and wanted exactly 0 of that shit.
>>203062440Wrong. The faith/citadel should choose a puppet king and rule the realm through him
>>203062437Vaegon literally planted the seeds for the Dance
>>203061583I don't see how the Renly-Robb alliance would ever come about.>You can be king in the North but, you have to swear fealty to me as King on the Iron Throneis not independence and is something that Robb and his vassals will not accept. If they are going to throw their weight behind anyone it will be Stannis, for as Robb himself says 'Bran can't be Lord of Winterfell before me'. Renly cannot allow North-Riverlands secession, for at that point the Vale and Dorne have the precedent to declare their own independence - and good luck to Renly trying to deal with both the Lannisters, the North/Riverlands, the Ironborn, Stannis and then the nightmare to conquer regions of the Vale and Dorne deciding he can go fuck himself.
>>203060340I hope he dies first The salt will be EBIN!
>>203062517>a bunch of squabbling academians should rule the realm via committee
>>203062351GET IN HERE FAGGOTS
>>203062588Robb would have taken the deal. His vassals might not have liked it but they'd have fallen in line if it meant Lannister heads.
>>203062614>a puppet king with the wisdom of hundreds of learned men at his back It’s basically George’s intended ending but less gay and fantastical
>>203062588Robb surrendering kingship but settling for the North becoming a Principality like Dorne would have been kino
SEVEN HELLS
>>203062744Renly would let him keep the title King In The North.
>>203062812>King in the North but not King of the Northbased and filially pioushttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_at_home,_king_abroad
>>203062812The question is would Renly be okay with the Starks retaining control of the Riverlands? If so Robb is a fucking retard for not agreeing.
new Preston just droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQnwZw6DeH0
>>203062892>control of the riverlandsNo I don't think so. Robb still swears fealty to Renly, he just has a fancy title that elevates the Starks like the Targs did with the Dornish
>>203062944>Carminenope
>>203060041Preston and Carmine are not saying that.
Okay /got/. You are given the full control of a Song of Ice and Fire series just about the Others, White Walkers and the Long Night. What do you do?
>>203063096I’d just adapt David lightbringers theories
>>203061583Renly seems like a pretty shitty Master of Laws. Renly will look the part of king and, because it appeals to him, he will do breads and circuses but, there is nothing to say that he would take his duties as king any more serious than what Robert did and his court will be that Tyrell/Reach dominated to be institutionally negative. Sure, Renly could very well be in the upper tier of Westerosi kings but, as you say the competition is not strong. Just because Stannis is a bad option that does not mean Renly will make a good king, that just means Renly will make a better king than Stannis.>>203062440Potentially the best thing is just for the Seven Kingdoms to breakup. And to counter any reply by anons that the Seven Kingdoms bring peace, do they? I am not saying there were not wars pre-unification but, it is wrong to act like Westeros was not engaged in some forever war battle royale pre-unification - they were at peace when Aegon conquered, and you can point to wars but, there is a huge history to call upon to pick them out and many of the wars are relatively small conflicts. In contrast, within just 300 years Westeros has seen bloody and massive spanning wars that engulf the entire continent: the Dance of the Dragons, conquest of Dorne, the Blackfyre Wars, Robert's Rebellion, War of the Five Kings.
>>203062953I would want some serious concessions at that point if I were Robb. On top that I would demand that Willas marry Sansa as soon as she is saved from the Lannisters. I would also want a Hightower or Redwyne girl for myself to secure my ties to the Reach and I want Stannis's ugly daughter to marry Bran or Rickon when we get control of her.
>>203063130>David Lightbringer, Alt Shift X and Preston will never direct and write a fan-driven series about Game of Thrones
>>203063096Make the cheapest slop possible and embezzle the rest of the money
>>203063159I think you could get 1 or 2 of those marriages but Renly sees himself as bargaining from a position of strength. He isn't seeking Robb to side with him as he is expecting it.
>>203062812>>203062744>>203062689Why take that offer though? Robb is not interested in the title in and of itself, nor are his bannermen. Robb go pressured into becoming king, he himself acknowledges that he is not fully and truly in control of the situation. What about the Riverlands as him being King of the Trident? This is more short-sightedness on Renly's part, even if Robb accepts the offer, long-term it just seems like Robb's son or grandson will probably go "Why am I just not an actual king?" and declare independence.
Cast them.
>>203063289Because Renly has no doubt he can crush Robb and trying to hold the Riverlands assures it. The only chance Robb or any other stark would be by holding the neck, however with full control of the royal fleet theres' nothing stopping a naval invasion like the Greyjoys did.
>>203062689Lannister heads that Renly is going to have to take regardless.
>>203062351Art Admirer is immortalized in this webm. How unfortunate
>>203063153>Potentially the best thing is just for the Seven Kingdoms to breakup. And to counter any reply by anons that the Seven Kingdoms bring peace, do they? I am not saying there were not wars pre-unification but, it is wrong to act like Westeros was not engaged in some forever war battle royale pre-unification - they were at peace when Aegon conquered, and you can point to wars but, there is a huge history to call upon to pick them out and many of the wars are relatively small conflicts. In contrast, within just 300 years Westeros has seen bloody and massive spanning wars that engulf the entire continent: the Dance of the Dragons, conquest of Dorne, the Blackfyre Wars, Robert's Rebellion, War of the Five Kings.This should have happened at the end of the show. There is some screen capture that gets posted that sums it up better than this but, with the North independent really the Iron Islands (who want independence, got promised it by Daenerys and are in a state of de factor independence), Dorne (cultural argument to make like the North, already quasi-independentish as a principality, could not even be conquered by dragons) and Vale (similar to the North and Dorne would be a major undertaking to conqueror, somewhat already isolated from the rest of Westeros, has the precedent to point to) should also have become independent. It is not even as if the Iron Throne literally even exists by the time the show ends, nor does Bran have any real legitimacy as his 'election' is done by whos? and people without power.
King Renly the Sword-Swallower has no son. Stannis has been killed, Shireen dead or removed from succession or something. What happens?
>>203063632Great Council most likely
>>203063224Gayboy wouldn't want to fight and would cave to all to my demands like the sissyboy he is. I'll even throw in Theon as a boytoy for him to fuck when Loras isn't around.
>>203063632Edric Storm is legitimised and married to a Tyrell.
>>203063655Would there even been any viable candidates? Some Estermont? Edric Storm or his line? Assuming Edric even lives and had kids. No way you are going to get some Tyrell declared monarch.>>203063632Like what >>203062440 >>203063574 >>203063153 say it seems probable that the realm just disintegrates either peacefully or through violence.
>>203063680Assuming Edric is even still alive or does not already have kids. In the scenario being asked Renly could live for decades whereas Edric goes to King's Landing a month into Renly's rule of the city and slips on some water gets his head smashed in. Edric is the obvious choice but, it says something about how few Baratheons there are left that he is the only obvious one.
Cast him
>>203063761Edric Storm would be the strongest candidate as a noble bastard but he would need support which would lead to him being a weak king dependent on his patrons.Fundamentally it'll be up to the great houses to decide whether or not they want to maintain the Iron Throne, But the absolutist kings of the past would be just that. of the past.
>>203063632Somehow Bran becomes king.
>>203063936The Rise of Starkwalker
>>203063855Ray Winstone.I'd be up for a a War of the Ninepenny Kings series or miniseries. Seeing young versions of all the GoT-era Lords would be fun. It makes a lot more sense to me to do that rather than Aegon's conquest. You could even use it to lead into a Roberts Rebellion series.
>>203063898>Fundamentally it'll be up to the great houses to decide whether or not they want to maintain the Iron Throne, But the absolutist kings of the past would be just that. of the past.The Iron Throne's existence only makes sense if the monarch is a semi-absolutist as tradition so far showed because otherwise the realm would dissolve into separete kingdoms again. The great nobles don't mind that the kings has power because 1- the king can solve conflicts among the houses and 2- the houses can try to gain some additional power by marrying into the royal family or even plot to become the next dynasty and who the fuck would care about become the next royal house if the office offers nothing?
What the hell was Balons plan? >declare independence >invade the only guy that could have helped youEven if it did somehow work out initially, the Iron Throne would just turn around and kick your nuts again until you kneel and give up all the land you took
>>203064171Because you do like the Lannisters and control the capital through the Throne. By keeping the puppet throne anyone who speaks out against it can be acted against even without the king having power. Like ancient China with their child emperors. But that's what I mean by the great houses have to "Agree" to it. The great houses, Stark , Lannister, Tyrell etc all benefit from open trade and the control the throne brings. A house like Tyrell has no authority as kings of the reach for example. But as vassals of the iron throne Tyrells maintain control over the reach.But if the throne is truly tyrannical , and multiple great houses break off, then what can the Throne do? Not much. We see that already with the Targaryen dynasty falling "It was the dragons we knelt too" while Dorne only maintains loyalty to the throne on the assumption that the other great houses would crush them if they broke off after the Targs died out.
>>203064230>>invade the only guy that could have helped youWorse than that, invade the only region who wouldn't mind you being independent. All other regions would fall back into the Iron Throne's fold and join the Greyjoy rebellion 2.0 eventually. Balon had absolutely nothing to gain and everything to loose if the North lost the war quickly as it did.
>>203064337join the supression of the Greyjoy rebellion 2.0*
>>203064230Balon offered an alliance to Tywin.
>>203064375Tywin has literally zero incentive to accept that alliance.
>>203064100>young versions of all the GoT-era Lordscast them
>>203064398I didn't say it made sense, but it was Balons plan, he does try make an alliance.
>>203064100I'd see him doing a good JonCon
>>203064375Balon had already declared war on the North. He was doing something for Tywin even without an alliance. Entering a formal alliance was redundant for Tywin, which also says nothing about how it would only ever be temporary as the Iron Throne is not going to allow the Iron Islands (plus whatever Balon thinks they are conquering in the North) to be independent.
>>203063003they did when he posted about writers making shows their own and when he complained about 4 legs.they said since he's complaining about surface level shit, he's happy or something like this.especially since he praised autistic Helaena.
>>203058322here's your reminder that the wall has no defenses to the south.
>>203064654Winter is the only defense I need.
>>203064424Damien Lewis, surely
>>203059476>Robert has a little dick but he is not shy about who he stuck it in and how
>>203059603What the fuck did the peach mean?
>>203059868Nice try.
>>203064840The peach means that Stannis should enjoy life (his ugly shrew wife, his ugly abomination of a daughter and his ugly poor castle he got as an insult).
>>203064230Balon is a fucking retard and Ironniggers are subhumans incapable of planning more than 3 days ahead
>>203064230With the seven kingdoms plunged into multi-way war and fractured, he probably hoped to reap and pillage the fractured realms. It's an opportunistic idea and not the worst plan if handled well, but he handles it terribly. Probably from the short-sighted belief that Westeros will remain fractured indefinitely, and won't just reunite once the greater war is ended, and then together turn back on the Ironborn and repeat the outcome of their first rebellion.Hell, for the second time, they'd surely respond even more vengefully and punitive, for exploiting the weakened realm and pillaging during a time of war.
>>203058712Winds of winter? Fuck that, I must know the exploits of the rat the hawk and the pig
>>203065710holy based
>>203065710The what
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG3KdLcHUT0
>STANNIS = PROMETHEUSBravo, George
>>203065790Littlefinger did nothing wrong
>>203065873Some absolute madlads harassed a crazy Targ princess into killing herself, and then some decades later they made a rebellion attempt against the crown. With no indication as to who they were, since they wore disguises always.
>I will never be able to come up with characters and one liners as fun as GRRMkms
>>203066027What's your favorite one-liners?
I find show Catelyn very attractive
>>203066129same
>>203061278Literally because George says so. Dorne got all theirs castles burned and George expects me to believe that all these Houses that got conquered by the Rhoynar, who themselves allied with the Martells, didn't think to ally with the Targaryens to get Dorne?Lmao
>>203066014Why did George write this lol
>>203066375They were never conquered by the Rhoynar. The Rhoynar joined Andal House Martell and then helped them conquer Dorne. The Rhoynar integrated and were dominated by Andal culture not the other way round. That's why we get the Orphans of the Green Blood. Equal primogeniture is the only real Rhoynar legal influence and even then it wasn't imposed on Dorne. Some Houses still follow Male preferred succession.
>>203066375>Stay loyal to the House who have been your tolerant comfortable overlords for 7 centuries, and represents Dorne.vs>Betray all of Dorne for foreign incest weirdos who demand loyalty or death and have the backing of all the Reachmen/Stormlander bastards you've been fighting in the Red Mountains for thousands of Years.Yep, I would have stayed honour bound to the Martells as well.
>>203066740It's nothing more than a few sentences lore blurb. It's fun because there's so little about it, to imagine about, but if expanded on it would probably end up being dumb
>>203060146>>203061091Does not matter. Who gives a hoot about religion and its ties. Religions change over time and does not determine who is king. Line of succession, considering the children not be illegitimate, falls to Stannis. Will shill him being rightful, even if not the best king, no matter what because it's the truth lmao. Really don't understand how you can make any other claim.
>>203058240He's right. It's cultural vandalism. We used to have fanfic, now we have big budget corpofic.
It's OVER
>>203067072ryanbros...sarasisters...
>>203067072fake
so what were the good things from season 2 aside from Aegon?
>>203067072the coward doesn't have the fucking balls
>>203067138Gwayne and Crispy
>>203067012This is stupid. Every single Targaryen King understood the importance of accepting and maintaining the dominant westerosi religion. Stannis won't find himself King for long if he keeps following a demonic sacrificial religion that the rest of the realm rightfully despises.
>>203061775The Faith of the Seven doesn't care about gay people.
One thing that piss me off is that Arya story is basically the most boring one atm. Her best chapters were the ones she had someone with her to explain the world in greater details. Alone she feels like a plot armour girl, girlbosses her way to victory. Her story should be about finding a new pack, and having to decide to either return back for revenge and her old pack (sana,rickon, bran and jon) or stay with her new pack. atm she is just "learning the ways of faceless men". It just feel boring. Compare to other character pov where they have a interesting cast of characters. For fuck sake we should have had the 5 year timeskip. atm arya is just too fucking young.
>>203061278war swallow goal like a common whore + how hard it is to take it over.
>>203061278Jaehaerys didn't have any reason to fight them until Prince Moron decided to attack the Stormlands for some reason. After Jaehaerys there really wasn't anyone who was good at commanding armies like the Conqueror or Jaehaerys. No, Daemon doesn't count in any way.
>>203062437more like vaego going>all according to kekkai
That's it. Cersei reminded me of someone in this scene but I couldn't place it. I figured it out. It's Russell Brand. Cersei is reminding me of Russell Brand. Obviously he is much more effeminate than Lena Heady, but she's got the same cadence, body language and facial expressionshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t5F1NYr-WU
>>203067556Cersei should have sat on Sansa's face
>>203067636but she poops from there
>>203067657give it a kiss little bird
>>203066853Nymeria wore the ants, did the sentencing, changed the name, changed the succession and continued ruling after the Martell dude died instead of it passing to their kid and she wasn't Regent. Next guys she married even thought their kid would inherit instead. Meaning she was the ruler and inheritance through her not Mr. Nymeros MartellThey got conquered cause a House allied with foreigners who took on some of their shit to appease them not unlike the Targs. The fact that several houses didn't breed with the Rhoynar means some tried to stay true to their ways plus we know of at least one House that's motivated to replace the Martells should the opportunity present itself. Yet not a one thought hey we're all losing our castles, fields, starving and dying cause of loyalty when we too could become ruler of Dorne?>>203066915Andals arrive with their queer customs, First Men ally with them against other First Men and retain/gain power or get conquered by those who do. Rhoynar arrive with their queer customs, Andal house, Martells, allies with them to against other Andal houses and retain/gain power. Why wouldn't another House do the same when Targs arrive?
>>203067657Cersei poops from Sansa's face?
I've been swapping back and forth to whichever side is losing in various Free Cities conflicts to try and get into bigger battles with better loot. Should I keep Wun Wun in his show inuit rags, or dress him up in some ornamental bronze?
>>203067735it is known
>>203067680Dorne was never a united place during Andal and Rhoynar migrations but a patch work of petty warlords. By the time the Targaryen's show up Dorne has been a politically united country for 7 centuries. If you don't understand the difference or how that might shape cultural perception of Dornish Houses I can't help you.
>>203068082Politically united kingdom of lordly houses who each used to be kings, still have issues with other Houses and who have their own views on how shit should run.There should be plenty of houses, large or small who are ambitious enough or have some grievance enough against House Martell to ally against them. Not to mention how would the people themselves feel dying, starving, losing everything and having to live in caves out of "loyalty" to House Martell.
Maario Naharass
do people other than irl wojacks at burlington bar ike the red wedding episode? if you remove the 1st watch shock its easily among the worst eps of s3, it has an overtly long child actor scene with bad acting, yunkai's "sack" that happens off screen, a filler sam+gillie scene and that full on deus ex machina jon "meet" with bran's entourage.the highlight of the ep is deffo the red wedding itself, but IMO the scene where jaime gets his hand lopped off with jackass music starting to play is done better from a shock value perspective. it's probably become one of my favorite credit drops in the series on my rewatch.
>>203058333S1 Bran a close second
>>203058263My queen is so adorable
>>203058333Not really, she's living in a medieval time period so she canonically would have had a hairy pussy and probably smelled sweaty
>>203061011Stannis would send Renly to handle PR.
>>203068440Imagine if he had sex with S1 Dany
>>203068499Yum
>>203068725Not really, she'd smell like her armpits
>>203068499I hope Free Cities have pussyshaving custom
>>203068389Dorne is just built different. Dorne could never be united under a King so the idea of rebelling to try and accomplish this is steep. The way the Martells only ever claimed the title of Prince probably helps with their gravitas not detracts. The fact they were allowed to keep their royal title later on after joining the Seven Kingdoms definitely helps them as well. Vassals would think twice about rebelling against royalty rather than just a lord paramount of equal rank.
>>203068437Season 3 became irredeemable shit as soon as they revealed Talisa. It's when they started making changes for no reason and began to ruin the show.
>just reading about lady stoneheart from the booksall of this sounds quite dumb, glad they didn't go with this development. having cat turned into some pseudo assassin sounds so dumb.>>203069599disagreed. talisa is a great justification for why the starks needed to die. in the books it's made to look like robb made no mistake.
>>203062351>worst thread.webmThat never gets old.
>>203069768Marrying Jeyne was portrayed as massive blunder in the books. Even Cat, retarded as she is, knew that it wasn't going to end well.
>>203067877>tfw didn't end up starting my campaign yet
>>203070402It's never too late
>>203070467O LAWD
>>203070467I'm too busy to sit down and play unfortunately
>>203058205What does George mean by this?>I do not look forward to other posts I need to write, about everything that’s gone wrong with HOUSE OF THE DRAGON… but I need to do that too, and I will. Not today, though. TODAY is Zozobra’s day, when we turn away from gloom. BURN HIM!BURN HIM!
>>203066915then the Starks could've won their war as well
>>203071486>writes a post about possibly finishing his post another daythis fat fuck needs to be executed
>>203071488femboy bran middle?
It's time to stop coping. The fat fuck is 75. Even if he releases winds next year, he would be 85+ for the final book's release and that's if there's a miracle. and at that age he's literally joe biden tier and theres no way he'll be non-senile enough to finish the final book.
>>203071599Who gives a fuck about Dream? I just want payoff for the 50 billion hanging plot threads left from Dance
slow general
>>203058240>or... well, anyoneheh
>>203060149Thanks, anon. Wasn't in the mood for some petty argument, less one about HOTD actors.
>>203071796real posted 6 years ago vibe
My girlfriend said "Hodor" while I rammed her from behind yesterday
Cute and canon!>10 hours thread
>>203071599Yeah its over. Hopefully his assistants can do a decent job.
>>203058263she's actually pretty close to being as hot as book dany. its a shame about the lack of purple eyes though.
>>203062440if the whole point of the targ conquest was 'the others are coming, so we have to be united' then they failed absolutely, completely, miserably. the 7 kingdoms are independent in everything but name and always have been.
lets say viserys wasn't an absolute retard and was a pretty decent guy, would dany have married him and not been her horny little self?
>>203072392based
>>203072601Visy was promised to Arianne already.
>>203072707yeah but not really. some musty old cunt who's dead made that deal. then oberyn dies too.
>>203071599My cope ended when the show finished in 2018 and the fucker still didn't publish Winds by then.
>>203060041See >>203058624
>>203072707The dragon requires multiple cunnies to stick it's three-headed cock in.
>>203058205>>203058263/ourgirl/
>>203058205>Yeah bro, let’s just change our banner to Green and Gold, making us look like an illegimate faction.Such fucking Hackery man…
>>203073010rhaenyra had her personal sigil in the book as well. the show decided to skip this for some reason.
Does anyone have the extra thick swimming gown webm please?
>>203073055Yeah but at least she kept the colors, she just quartered the sigil with Velaryon and Arryn. Aegon changing black to green and red to gold is almost bastard tier
>>203073055>for some reasonI wonder what reason that could be
>>203073225Bastards normally use a bend sinister on their sigils iirc (irl too), like Walder Rivers.
>>203073225>Aegon changing black to green and red to goldThat's the show, his personal and faction sigil was a Gold (Sunfyre) dragon on black.It might make more sense to you if the show actually let us see Sunfyre as much as the smallfolk, who loved the beautiful golden marvel.
>>203073347What the show did to Sunfyre was criminal.
>>203058205Can someone make an edit of the series where the Velaryons are White, using AI? Them being black is so glaring and out of place it completely pulls me out.
>>203073405Wouldn't it make the scene where Vaemond is yelling about "those little crackas" out of place?
Sex with the HOTD character I'm not allowed to mention!
New thread?
>>203068440KYS pedophile
>>203073427Vaemond can stay, he was kino.
Should honestly stop making threads until /dunk/
So it's officially over? No new thread? Okay then, see you in two years.
NEW MIGRATE>>203073782>>203073782
>>203073668IT'S OVER WHEN I SAY ITS OVER
>>203058263Blondes are more beautiful than the rest and most women look better as blondes, certainly the case for Emilia.
