Arthouse and classicsDeliverance edition>/film/ chartshttps://mega.nz/folder/87xyiJjZ#3B2eXe2lmN2KbFNNEagggQ>/film/ literaturehttps://mega.nz/folder/XCokCRpR#tlesB0J_7jhaEWZVJqVzlAPrevious: >>204369895
>>204384537die
Queen of /film/
>>204384537Grifting oriental. Enemy of cinema.
One word: Story
>>204384593Tell me a story
>>204384596Once upon a time there lived an anon, who spent all of his time on /film/. The story goes on.
>>204384596It’s the end of summer vacation for Amin. The young photographer spends cozy evenings with Charlotte, the ex-girlfriend of his Casanova cousin. She talks to him about literature, he photographs her. Nobody knows that they see each other, especially not Ophélie, his childhood friend, who instead confides her troubles to Amin : her father wants her to take over the family farm, her fiancé Clement will return soon from Iraq for their wedding, she is pregnant with Tony’s baby, and Tony wants to keep their affair secret instead of having a serious relationship. Ophélie constantly contemplates her choices : would it be better to get an abortion in secret and marry Clement or to follow her maternal instinct and keep the child, perhaps seeking refuge with Amin in Paris?
The language of cinema connects us all.
>>204384692Universalist grift.
Movies are dreams we watch with our eyes wide open.
Cinema is the river and /film/ is the paddle
>>204384573no Tsai makes films based on racial identity like Nien Jen Wu and HHH. He is not a grifter like WKW.
Cinema is the truth 24 times per second!
The screen has boundaries, but the stories are limitless.
>>204384848Rice Queen of /film/
Cinema: where time travel requires nothing but a ticket stub.
>>204384839>>>/pol/
A camera captures light, but cinema captures life.
any uplifting/touching kinos like the straight story?
>>204384848Volleyball Becky pajeetbait sundress tradwife parody
A great film tells a story you didn’t know you needed to hear.
>>204384959Where is the Friend's House?
>>204384986I don't know. Who are you talking about?
Film is music for the eyes
>John Ford is still the most Brechtian of all filmmakers, because he shows things that make people think, "Damn it, is that true or not?" For instance the end of Fort Apache, which was completely misunderstood, even by Sadoul, it doesn't have a happy ending and this is correct to make the audience collaborate on the film: in the middle of the battlefield you can see general Custer, he dies there and all his soldiers have been shot, then a few moments later John Ford says, John Wayne looks at it and says, "This man is crazy," literally. Then finally we have the so-called happy ending, one sees John Ford, he is sitting there, behind him you can see a huge historical picture, representing the battle. And in front of John Ford, in a circle, there are journalists taking notes, and asking questions; somebody suddenly notices the picture on the wall, the rather heroic historical picture and asks, "Is that correct? Was it really like that?" Then John Wayne turns around, startled and surprised, looks at it, wants to answer, turns around again to answer and one notices for a fraction of a second that he is about to say, "It is all crap, it has been made too heroic, it is false, etc.," but he says instead, "Yes, gentlemen, it was really like that." Then John Ford goes another step further, and John Wayne says, "Right now I haven't got any time. I must go back to work." And then he puts on his cap - until then he had on quite a different one exactly like the one Fonda had earlier in the battle. And then one sees him ride away on horseback, they are going to another battle. That is what I call a Brechtian film.
>>204385001Mohammad Reza Nematzadeh
Some stories are too big for pages; that’s why we have cinema.
Cinema is a conversation between conversations.
Cinema transcends boundaries, reminding us that every frame holds the potential to change our perspective on the world.
Cinema is a way of expressing the inexpressible.
some of u lil bros really arent tryin wit these
What?
>>204385175@ dem den nigga
>>204385186He's not wrong. Colors existed.
i have been focusing on 2024 releases and so far it's been a bad timeto my 3 friends on the letterboxd, i apologize
In cinema, every viewer carries a story waiting to be discovered.
>>204385186King shit!
>>204384528You ever have your balls cut off, you fuckin' ape?!
>>204385186This is taken out of context. I remember the quote. He was wondering why photography/film started in black and white.
A film is a mirror wherein we discover who we could be
>>204385254He said black and white costs more money, and color was around.
>>204385186>Photography could have been invented in color. Colors existed, but here’s the thing: On the eve of the 20th century technology decided to reproduce life. So we invented photography. But since morals were still strong, and we would take everything from life, even its identity, we mourned this killing. And it’s with the mourning colors, black and white, photography was born.He says this in Histoire(s) du cinéma.
>You can never make your films intelligent enough, because people have enough stupidity to put up with in their work and daily lives. The life they lead is horrible, it makes them more and more stupid. They can't take anymore; you destroy them and finish them off. That is why it doesn't make sense to burden them with more stupidities.
Something like a film is for me intellectual counterfeit money when compared to a good book, painting, or sculpture.
>>204385033>>204385352So which one of them said these?
>>204385394They both said them in unison.
>>204385394Jean Marie Straub.
>>204385440Let's hear from the woman.
>>204384790That was one of the benefits of TV and theaters before 1960. You could just get into the middle of a movie with no context.
>>204385457Straub does 99% of the talking in their interviews, I can't find any interesting quotes by Huillet.
Technicolor was a beautiful fraud.
>>204385566Many such cases
>>204385515I would theater hop every week if I lived back then. Most narrative films are improved by jumping in a bit late.
>HUILLET: I think [Straub] has the same kind of relationship with Godard as he has with Eisenstein, even though they are not at all the same person.>STRAUB: Yes, a kind of hate and love complex. But I like Godard very much, even when he's an awful guy, because he's always conscious of how and why he's [making a film]. What I like most in Godard is that he is always funny, even when his films are very serious. But as work, I think Rivette is no less important than Godard.>HUILLET: And Rivette is probably the greatest editor of film since Chaplin.>STRAUB: A lot of people think that Eisenstein is the greatest editor, because he has some theories about it, but this is not true. Chaplin was greater, I think, in editing, only it is not so obvious. Chaplin was more precise than Eisenstein, and the man after Chaplin who is the most precise is surely Rivette... Somebody now in France, to speak about French filmmakers, from the generation not much after Godard/Rivette (nobody knows him, or few people). The man is called Luc Moullet. As important as Rivette/Godard, completely different, but as important... Maybe the best film not made by Godard is Les Contrebandières by Luc Moullet.
>>204385649Eisencucks in shambles.
Jokerbros...
>The fact that Dreyer was never able to produce a film in color (he had thought about it for more than twenty years) nor his film on Christ (a profound revolt against the state and the origins of anti-Semitism) reminds us that we live in a society that is not worth a frog's fart.
>The Danish author, Johannes V. Jensen, describes "art" as "soulfully composed form." That is a definition which is simple and very much to the point. The same goes for the definition the English philosopher Chesterfield gives to the concept of "style." He says "Style is the dress of thoughts." That is right, provided that "the dress" is not too conspicuous, for a characteristic of good style must be that it enters into such an intimate bond with matter that it is absorbed into a higher unity with it. If it imposes and strikes the eye, it is no longer "style" but "mannerism.">Style in an artistic film is the product of many different components, such as the play of rhythm and composition, the mutual tension of color surfaces, the interaction of light and shadow, the measured gliding of the camera. All these things, in association with the conception that a director has of his material, determines his style.
>>204385038I don’t know where his house is, he isn’t my friend
bad thread is bad
>>204386056Dreyer austere
>>204385853>The film’s other declared task was to "stamp out the myth that the Jewish people are to blame for Jesus’ death." In 1949, when Dreyer got a real chance to immerse himself in writing the script, the world had just emerged from a war that in a cataclysmic way had given new currency to this pro-Semitic aim.>First, Dreyer had to quash the perception that Jesus wasn’t Jewish. And it wasn’t enough that Jesus, naturally, had to be played by a Jew. Jesus also had to show that he was Jewish – in small gestures, for instance, and, not least, by stressing that there were no hostile undertones to the disagreements between Jesus and the Pharisees.>Second, Dreyer had to switch around some of the events preceding the crucifixion, which in the Gospels have the effect that the Jews, led by the high priests, are portrayed as Christ’s killers. Here, too, Dreyer is well aided by several modern historians who by and large agree that Jesus died as a political victim of Roman occupation.damn had no idea dreyer was such a shabbos goy
>>204384627>The story goes on.No, it doesn't.
>>204386209>by stressing that there were no hostile undertones to the disagreements between Jesus and the Pharisees.did this dude ever even read the Bible>Dreyer had to switch around some of the events preceding the crucifixionDreyer dishonest
>>204386160Straub as well.
>>204384546>>204382570Based fellow Bauchad
Was Straub a jew?
>>204384848>>204370480based fellow Gadonchad
>>204386475What does it matter, you evil coward.
I Need to renew my 4channel ticket
I think I’m in love with Sarah Gadon…
Someone Help me to renew my boards4channel ticket
>>204386664>>204386771meds right fucking NOW
Hello
>>204386475He has some kinda Levinassian physiognomy goin' on here >>204385033 here >>204385649and here >>204385853 .
>>204386487Queen of /mid/
t. retard
>>204386520Calm down, just asking.
>>204387022lil bro's flouting Grice's maxims
>>204386711I have been thoroughly converted by Gadonfag, I will admit it.
>>204386711
>>204386711>I think I’m in love with Sarah Gadon…Many people are
>>204387490
>>204387490Post your hand, Rajeesh
>>204387490Pajeetbait grift
>>204387490Post epicanthal folds.
Something like F. H. Bradley's aphorisms are for me intellectual counterfeit money when compared to a good fortune cookie.
>>204387786
>>204387824Open up the "stick with your wife" barrel.
>>204387980
anyone here know if there is a database of specific technical details from films like what type of cameras/film they used, methods of pre/post productions etc?
>>204387824>fish in muddy waterOr ride a horse through muddy ground?
>>204388078IMDb?
>>204388089CAREFUL…
Yep, yep, yep
LOOK WHAT YOU DID!
>>204388306AHHHH, YOU NAUGHTY BOY
>>204388306
Cursed general
MY SMILE IS STUCK I CANNOT GO BACK TO YOUR FROOOOWWNNNLAAAANNNND
rolling for a movie to watch. 0 is viewer's choice.
>>204388442Just watch A Moment of Innocence.
>>204388405
>>204384528Amazing film. Btw, just came back from Shnit Short Film Festival, and what I witnessed was terrifying. It's true, kino is dead. Of the 6 shorts I saw, 3 were in the 1 to 2 out of 10 range, and the other 3 were good. The egyptian short was the best (I Promise You Paradise), and I highly recommend it.
>>204388442I say Salaam Cinema because that's the only one of those i've seen. But it's very good.
>>204388442Scoop. Please tell if it's good after seeing.
>>204388409>subjects band to psychological torment >results in masterpiece albumNothin' personnel
None of these are particularly insightful
>>204388693He's literally God.
>>204388677I was gonna say it's not but then i realized it's not the Woody Allen one.
>>204388693>Actually makes the music out of Beefheart's rambling nonsenseNothing personel captain.
>>204388677It's pretty comfy. Not this one though, the Allen one.
>>204388899>the real visionary is the guy behind the curtain so to speak, who history mostly forgetsKinos for this feel?
>>204384528They should do a remake with any all female cast starring Sidney Sweeny
>>204388729
>>204389014>Sweeney>Squeal like a pig>Swiney
>>204388442rolling for morning sun
>>204388442omgg i've seen two (2) of these in the past week. both of which i'd happily rewatch...
What Have You Done to Solange?-Really enjoyed it, great giallo. Story actually somehow had me hooked. Main dude was /fa/ as fuck, all his outfits looked great. Fantastic nudity. Wish the gore was more over the top but the kills were still pretty brutal. Recommended giallo if you haven’t seen it already
>talks about a film>kills the thread Classic /film/
>>204391226Filmtalking grift
What do we think about her list? https://youtu.be/0q6_hh7sDzE?si=f0LmWqytYxVqAvlB
>>204391282Oops, wrong general.
>>204391282Wrong general, bud.
>>204391226There are the ghost hours, it's usually just me and another couple of guys at this time.
Any good horror movies from Africa or India?
>>204391731no
>>204391800Fuck you nigga! Why do you lie to me?
>>204391838How do you know if i'm lying or not if you don't know if there are any good indian or african horror movies yourself?
>>204391878I do know of some. I’ll tell you what they are if you tell me the ones you know first.
>>204391891I don't watch indian films and the only african filmmaker i know is Ousmane Sembene and he didn't make any horrors.
>>204391282I think it’s fucking horrible
>>204391282Is that one of the Haim sisters?
>>204391282honestly not too bad, the gate is kino
Homosexuality depicted tasteful-like.
>>204392362The british really are gay.
>>204392362this scene makes me tear up i might be turning gay
>>204389169Kek
Good morning, /film/
>>204392411There is nothing gay about kissing your dying bro on the battlefield.
>>204393991Good morning, anon.
>>204384528That poster makes it seem like it’s a redneck version of “Fantastic Voyage.”
wanting to know if someone is a psychopath is important, to understand the morality in their work
any good movies leak this week?
>>204394554>Good movies>current year
>Where a beast would have claws, I was born with talent. >I am your fairy tale. Your dream. Your wishes and desires, and I am your thirst and your hunger and your food and your drink.>About 25 years ago, I was in an apartment, and next door, they put on the radio, so I struck the wall with my fist, but they did not put the radio down. I took a tool and banged until I made a hole through the wall, and then I reached through the hole, grabbed the radio, and hurled it into the ground into pieces. It was like a comedy movie.>I have to shoot without any breaks. I yell at Herzog and hit him. I have to fight for every sequence. I wish Herzog would catch the plague, more than ever.>What do you think, that a dollar in a savings account is freedom? Maybe you have understood nothing I have said.
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>>204385033basedJust say John Ford is literally the best. Has the most number of masterpieces, its poetic but never boring, he even never made a bad film. He learnt everything from Griffith and the silent era masters and made the top KINO
>>204394940Yes he had everything except good taste. No one is going to sit down and watch that cheesy crap voluntarily. They will watch revisionist westerns and spaghetti westerns first.
>>204394940Ford is definitely the greatest of all American directors
We need a second /film/, one for modern movies (2000 on) and one for boomercore (pre-2000). Because we are actually having discussion about John Ford and his one dimensional cowboy slop.>Gasper Noe? Haneke? Lars Von Trier? Naw dead boomers only
>>204395381This is not an arthouse exclusive thread
>>204395467Ford isn't arthouse
>>204395517Yes that's what I'm saying, this is not an arthouse exclusive thread, it's arthouse and classic cinema, thus the discussion of classic cinema is welcome. Also Ford made some films that would probably be classified as 'old arthouse'. I mean, what even is 'arthouse'? Hitchcock was 100% a commedcial director but he is recognized as an auteur
>beats Citizen Kane for best movienaw fuck John Ford and his cowboys and indians slop
>>204395662I hate how that film is no longer recognized as a classic by the mainstream. It's a masterpiece
>>204395381>>Gasper Noe? Haneke? Lars Von Trier? Naw dead boomers onlyThis but unironically.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgNik-iSvyQJust watched this, and I had watched Noriko's Dinner Table last week. The moment where the three main actresses finish filming their scenes really made me emotional. I hadn't cried for years. I felt like I'm saying goodbye to a close family member which I guess makes sense considering the subject of the movie.
>>204395807>I hadn't cried for years. I felt like I'm saying goodbye to a close family member
>>204395517>most literate Noe fan
>>204395953
>>204395662Kane was just too ahead of its time to get recognition immediately. Welles was an auteur before the concept existed
>>204395956
>>204384528Deliverance remake starring joachim phoenix
>>204396009wasn't a typo you just can't read
Alright I'll play alongWesterns: :|Jidaigeki *a picture of Yojimbo*: :O
>>204396101both genres are top kino however
I had planned on watching "Secret Defense" (1998) by Rivette. However, I'm finding out the "restored" version has removed fade-outs from the film which allegedly ruins the tempo of the film and so the original vision.Consequently my plans to watch it soured and I put it on ice.
>>204395662it's kino other than the pro-commie message
>>204396523I can pinpoint the exact moment when Ford made it clear that he didn't try to convey any political messages with films like that, it's when in Grapes of Wrath some worker says something about the 'red uprising', he read about it in the newspapers and Henry Fonda's character said something like>Reds? Who are they?
oh my GAWD!!!! The Mamas and the Papas!? THIS IS ORIENTALISM!!!
>>204396613Nah this is a classic tactic of the far left. See: Dr. Zhivago. They want their commie shit to be invisible because otherwise it will cause immediate resistance.
>>204396445>watch Criterion's release of Eraserhead, overseen by DAVID LEENCH himself>bright light when the cheeks girl touches the main character is replaced with just black screen both timesBased 10000k restoration by Criterion™ released on Bluray™
>>204395696>cowardly, cowering hollywood slop that smothers itself with schmaltziness in fear of being politically offensive>masterpiecesame goes for the informer (one of the worst films i've ever seen) and the grapes of wrath btw
>>204396727If Dr. Zhivago is a commie film then Battleship Potemkin is a tsarist film>>204396737The Informer is just Irishwank Ford loved to do, it's good though
>>204396523>child labor is...LE GOODYou have political brainrot
Well I was sad Ford was kinda underdiscussed here but if this is your fags reaction to his films then I'd much rather he stays that way
>>204396950>Fordov>underdiscussed
>>204396808Lean was a communist and makes the movie generic as possible, you can show that movie to someone and they will have no idea what it's about. They will talk about "The revolution" without ever elaborating.
>>204396950Only one thing bothers me about those films, when Ford took the assignment to make them as unoffensive as possible and hide all the ugliness away, did he feel he was betraying his conscience or did he have no conscience to begin with? To me this is the crucial question about Ford. And I'm leaning towards the latter.
>>204396727The Communism is the opposite of invisible in Dr. Zhivago, the guy comes back from service, all his wealth has been confiscated, randos are living in his home and grim looking commissars tell him to fuck off
We are entering the anti-classic cinema era now I guess. Anti/film/
What dead actors will you mine for social media likes?
>Originally allowed to be shown in the Soviet Union in 1948 because of its depiction of the plight of people under capitalism, it was subsequently withdrawn because audiences were noticing that, as shown in the film, even the poorest Americans could afford a car.
>>204396950You should know that already. Be very glad when your favorite films and directors aren't talked about here. Nothing good will come from changing that course.
>>204396737>cowardlyWhy should art be brave? Some of the best movies are cowardly because they can examine the extremes of both sides.
>>204384528Nice movie pick, very relevant at the moment
>>204398258Art should show the best of the human spirit, unless you only want a society of Terrifier 3s
>>204398258Was Ford thinking about art for one moment when he pleased Zanuck with the film's profits and was very well rewarded for his conforming neutrality by the establishment at the oscars?Is your attempt to dismiss a specific issue within hollywood and with a specific director with juvenile broad statements another act of cowardice?
>>204398258You can show the darkness of society while still uplifting the resilience of the human spirit and make beautiful art.
>>204398545What makes everyone so assblasted is that Ford didn't need to think about art to make art. He was simply a talented intelligent man. If you think about making art all the time you become a fraud who makes self indulgent flicks like Godard
>>204395439This guys reviews are unfunny shit like this or winging like a shitlib ricecel at raycizsm
>>204390484Cool, rec bro, I wanna check more giallo out.
>>204398552Exactly.You can even inject politics and still make beautiful art.Visconti's La Terra Trema is explicitly communist and it's not only a timeless neorealist landmark, it's an extraordinarily beautiful film with Bressonian levels of the purity of human spirit.You can even inject schmaltz and still make beautiful art.Powell's The Edge of the World isn't afraid to use conventional melodrama to frame its story and easily transcends genre and becomes a beatiful elegy purely by director's skill and indomitable photography.Ford achieves none of it.
>>204398770Isn't that pretty much all letterboxd reviews? I do like that Edgar Cochran fella though
>>204398649Yes, it's okay to think about Ford as an obedient, placid artisan. At least you've admitted it.
>>204398258>Why should art be brave?It should be what the filmmaker wants it to be. Ironically, that is true bravery
>>204398857>>204398939Ironically VIsconti is also one of my absolute favorites. La Terra Trema is an extremely beautiful film, yes
Gallo>Giallo
>>204399036To me Viconti and Ford are incomparable. Visconti isn't afraid. To go out to the fishermen, to film on location (night for night on a small boat in 1948, does this mean anything to you?), to work with nonprofessional actors, to ask questions. Ford hides in California, hides within sets, hides behind non-Welsh actors, etc, he's like a baby playing pretend.
>>204398946You just described Todd Phillip's Joker 2
>>204399254Joker 2 was a movie they were forced to add to a standalone film because the first made money. That's already dishonest in artistic intention, which is probably what OP meant
>>204399213>he's like a baby playing pretend.I'm curious, do you think the same of all the classic Hollywood directors?
>>204399254>>204399394I really don't know anything about Joker 2.
>>204399537Mostly, yes.Although it's interesting to watch how real talent copes with bonds and boundaries of the Hollywood system. For example, to me Lang's misanthropy that is so apparent in his Hollywood films - which many sois and feminists take for their bread and butter freudian misogyny - comes from his despair at being in hollywood, and the condition of hollywood in this context are a microcosm for the condition of humanity.
>>204399213>>204399800Formalism > neorealism. We can get reality in our day to day. There is nothing better than a good Jacques Demy movie.
>>204399800No one asked Lang to move to Hollywood
>>204399863Nobody minds dozens of Ford's formalist horse operas, because they are slight, and they are slight precisely because of their hollywood formalism. Trying to make a statement on a neorealist topic in hollywood terms is not just laughably misrepresentative, it's violently inauthentic.
>>204399950It's true, he could've just hopped into the oven after all his art was ruled degenerate
>I attempted to watch "Stagecoach". I left in the middle. Monstrous boredom and a totally unglamourous actor [John Wayne] who tries too hard to be charming.>I watched Ford's "The Searchers". Very weak lead actor and a misguided dramaturgy – cartoonish in execution.>"The Searchers" seems to me, in general, boring, unoriginal, and extremely unimaginative in its means of expression.>The talented American director John Ford, who had previously directed the brilliant "Wagon Master", showed his new film in Italy – "The Grapes of Wrath", a modernistic, pointless exercise. It set outs to tackle a socioeconomic problem (a farmer's life), but the problem is not only not solved, but not even posed.
>>204400083>>I attempted to watch "Stagecoach". I left in the middle. Monstrous boredom.Filtered
>>204400083It is telling that so much criticism against Ford is more so criticism against America. These review bombs come across as bad faith arguments.
>>204400006Hitler and Goebbels were fans of his work, they literally asked him to become their main cinema guy
Is this Tarkovsky? I wonder what he would've thought of The Big Trail, an alternative branch of Hollywood approach to westerns that was unfortunately snuffed out in its infancy.
another orientalist grift catered to westerners. no way leader Mao's government was as bad as this paints.
>>204400228They would've made him change how he filmed, there was a strong artistic push away from the stuff that came out of weimar. You see it all over Nazi design. Riefenstahl had roots in that expressionist kind of world too, but it had to be bent into a propaganda mold.>>204400083Tark notoriously didn't care about film before 1950 which is a huge chunk of the greatest American works, only Chaplin got the nod.
>>204395381This post has to be a joke. >Gasper Noe? Haneke? Lars Von Trier?Especially this part.>>204396445Simply don't watch the restored version.>>204400006He was asked by Goebbels himself to take the job that went to Leni Riefensthal, the nazis loved Metropolis.
>>204400329>only Chaplin got the nod.Citizen Kane and Grapes of Wrath too.>Luis Buñuel, Ingmar Bergman, Andrzej Munk. I regret most of the French directors have lost French national tradition, and I consider François Truffaut the best now. Among my favorite directors are Luchino Visconti who directed The Earth Will Tremble and Rocco And His Brothers, John Ford who made Grapes of Wrath, and Orson Welles who created Citizen Kane. But as for Grapes of Wrath, I appreciate the original book better.
>>204400300China = Bad has been the biggest orientalist grift of them all, the easiest pandering to stupid western hicks for cash.
>>204400439>and I consider François Truffaut the best nowlol Tark.
>>204400438>the nazis loved Metropolis.Die Nibelungen was one of Hitler's favorite films I think
I'm only interested in the views of two people: One is called TB Johnson and one called Haver.
>>204400083The Tark Shark strikes again-PAY. ATTENTION!
>>204400439His taste is so specific it irritates me, but I respect a man that knows exactly what he wants
>>204400535Bergman once called Tark to be the greatest director ever. Imagine when your favorite filmmaker says that about your work, that's just insane
>>204384528The Emerald Forest is my John Boorman film of choice. It's Excalibur really.
>>204400597What irritates me more is that it's hard to find any of the interviews/lectures that he gave in which he goes into detail about his preferences, he only spoke openly about Bresson, Bergman and Kurosawa. For example, I know for a fact he liked Flaherty but that interview has never been translated into English and I can't find it anywhere anyway now
>>204400438What I've seen by Noé, Haneke and Von Trier is excellent.
>>204400300What film?
>>204400602Tark really is the GOAT
>>204400691Tarkovsky is the guy that will come to a festival with you, brood for an hour after then say "It was as awful as I thought it would be, but I needed to see with my own eyes"
>>204400602Bergman would never praise a director he thought was above him. He knew Tarkovsky's vibe fests weren't significant cinema but mere cinematography exercises. He also called Lars von Trier the greatest filmmaker of his time and praised M Night Shyamalan's Sixth Sense. Bergman put down the directors he felt most threatened by, such as Godard, Welles and Antonioni.
>When film is not a document, it is dream. That is why Tarkovsky is the greatest of them all. He moves with such naturalness in the room of dreams. He doesn't explain. What should he explain anyhow? He is a spectator, capable of staging his visions in the most unwieldy but, in a way, the most willing of media. All my life I have hammered on the doors of the rooms in which he moves so naturally. Only a few times have I managed to creep inside. Most of my conscious efforts have ended in embarrassing failure
>>204400711You have the moral backbone of a chocolate eclair. I don't even consider those three directors human.
>>204400910>moral backboneExplain.
>>204400910Now I want donuts
>>204400906Yep, Bergman liked his visuals, he knew they have no substance at all. It is fake praise if you read between the lines,
>You have the moral backbone of a chocolate eclair. I don't even consider those three directors human.
Tarkovsky's films would need more wacky monsters and big tiddy babes for me to think they resemble dreams.
>My discovery of Tarkovsky's first film was like a miracle.>Suddenly, I found myself standing at the door of a room the keys of which had, until then, never been given to me. It was a room I had always wanted to enter and where he was moving freely and fully at ease.>I felt encouraged and stimulated: someone was expressing what I had always wanted to say without knowing how.>Tarkovsky is for me the greatest, the one who invented a new language, true to the nature of film, as it captures life as a reflection, life as a dream.
>>204401014>>204400880Is this bait or do you just hate Tarkovsky? It's clearly genuine praiseFilms don't need 'substance' to be good, but it's pretty retarded to think Tarkovsky's films don't have any
>>204400608Point Blank is Boorman's masterpiece. Emerald Forest was pretty cool though.
>>204401101I actually haven't seen Point Blank. Will add it to the list.
>>204401046That is Herzog but thanks for playing. You can't recite a single performance, line of dialogue or scene in all of Tarkovsky's films. You just remember them as a cloud of vibes. He is responsible for all the worst anti intellectualism in today's cinema. Visuals first, everything else is ignored.
>>204401146>a single performanceThe light in Nostalghia>line of dialogueThe wind in Mirror >or scene in all of Tarkovsky's filmsHis life, his death, his eternal life- his sculptures in time We have a word for people like you- filtered
>>204401086Substance is most important, this is why all the vibefags hated Godard, they could not keep up with his intellectual cinema.
Speaking of Bergman this one was kind of a turd lol
>>2044011467-8/10>>204401246The intellectual cinema part was unnecessary, ruined a good bait
>>204401146Mirror has plenty of that>>204401265How much Bergman have you seen? This is pretty low on the totem pole.
You will never get drunk with Tark and sing the praises of heroes or talk shit on the losersWhy fucking live
>>204401265>Peter Egermann visits and murders a prostitute named Ka, committing an act of necrophilia.The old man decided to go a little wild. Thanks for the rec, will watch someday. Haven't seen a lot of Bergman
>>204401086I highly doubt Bergman sat around watching Tarkovsky films, he is a man with no sensitivity or interest in human psychology, no care about people, he is a soviet barbarian. The Russian soul does not apply to cinema. They are only capable of vibes and mudpunk.
>And he has something in Psycho, he had some moments. Psycho is one of his most interesting pictures because he had to make the picture very fast, with very primitive means. He had little money, and this picture tells very much about him. Not very good things. He is completely infantile, and I would like to know more — no, I don’t want to know — about his behaviour with, or, rather, against women. But this picture is very interesting.
>>204401408>Haven't seen a lot of BergmanThe state of these threads
>>204401311These ones. >>204401146I remember everything about Domiziana Giordano's performance in Nostalghia, thank you very much. >>204401408It wasn't terrible it just doesn't measure up to his greatest works.
>>204401563watch The Virgin Spring my nigga
>>204401372The key about Tarkovsky is he was a manlet. Small people try create a big impact to create worship. It is all a scam. Bergman was over 6'4, his art was that of a tall man with little to prove. Tarkovsky lived to be worshipped, Bergman was non-pretentious. He even praised M Night Shyamalan toward the end of his life. It was Tarkovsky shit talking directors like that in all his books with his manlet rage.
>>204401543I mean, I've seen like 15 of his films, he just made a lot>>204401563Face to Face is another work of his that I want to watch
>>204401600that one, Summer with Monika and F&A are the ones I most want to watch next.
>>204401622But I’m a manlet tooHe just like me!!! He just like me FR FR
>>204401630>Face to Face is another work of his that I want to watchI really loved Face to Face, it has the same gothic atmosphere of Cries & Whispers combined with the emotional hysterics of Autumn Sonata. Good shit.
>>204401677Kinski was a manlet too, sometimes it is good, the manlet rage gave him so many good performances.
>>204401622You are probably thinking of Max von Sydow, now he was fucking giant
>>204401692Liv Ulmann is still alive, in theory one can find her and rape her. It will color all peoples viewing of her films forever.
Stop talking shit about manlets, we have feelings too
>>204401536>Bergman continued, his frustration growing. >The man is a disgusting creature, honestly. Obese, monstrous, horrific. I can tell from his films what he tries to accomplish- bending over, reaching in with both hands to the nauseating dark bog, and ripping apart his anus to lengths humanity does not want to know. He does this for his true love- the almighty paying audience, his “fans” who are also just as disgusting as he is, who all take turns raping and ravaging his wide cavern. The stench would have been more frightening than any of his films… and cause of an alarming interest as well. Yes, it was an interesting film indeed.
>>204401806He was a 6'4 manlet. Only 7 feet kings can speak from now on.
>>204401907That was a legendary interview, never expected Bergman to go that hard on TV. It was a different time...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iijReCmU9IkBergman has such a relaxing voice, the way his films sound also makes them relaxing. I love it
>>204401885Most of us here are manlets. Tall people are too busy fucking girls to be browsing /film/
>>204402135lmao amazing. You can tell his statements are dripping with sarcasm and he spoke more about the theater experience than anything about Hitchcock. He truly disliked the hack
>>204402147How short are you guys? I'm 5'10 in a manlet country and everyone thinks I'm 6 feet lmao, feels good man
>>204402244He knew. Hitch ain't it.
>>204401945You should hear what he said about mumblecore, before it was even invented (what a visionary).Can’t remember the exact quote, something along the lines of “I knew, even as a child, that Hitler was trying to prevent terrible things. We should’ve listened.”
>>2044022545'5
>>2044022545'10 in a country where that's under the average male height.
>>204402365Fug, you european? Imo, 5'10 is probably average globally speaking
>>204401828how do you know she's never been raped already
>>204402254I'm also 5'10 in a not so tall country, so i'm above average here.
Liv Ullman > Bibi Andersson, in terms of rapeability.
>>204402586Bibi had better booba
>>204402733Liv's face makes me diamonds, i don't know what it is.
>>204402410Yeah, I am.>>204402733Always thought she was far more beautiful in general.
I need to revisit Bergman soon, all of his i saw was between ages 14-17, and that was over a decade ago.
>>204402819For me it's Harriet Andersson.
I bet Bergman had three ways and four ways with them allHoly Christ, can you imagine?!
>>204402901I actually do prefer her over both of them.
>>204402979She looks like a dude i knew in this picture, won't be able to unsee him in her now.
>>204403054lmao
>>204402979same.
Btw, any other great swede filmmakers?
>>204403127Roy Andersson
>>204403127Victor Sjostrom
>>204403171>Roy AnderssonToo many memes.
>>204402254>>204402365>>204402563I'm also 5'10 (or 5'11, not sure because we use the metric system here). I guess /film/ is a 5'10 land.
>>204402901Same, love her
>>204403273>I guess /film/ is a 5'10 land.Figures. It makes sense that we're "manlets" (average, btw) in here.
>>204403200queen of /film/
bakin rn
>>204403344based Lillychad
>>204403344Girls with guns. Sex.
>>204402254175 cm, weird position to be in. I'm basically like a tall woman. Apparently even East Asian men are now just as tall, been eating good for the past years those fuckers
>>2044033275'10 is a respectable height IMO. If you're dating a 5'5 or smaller girl, she has no right to complain.
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>>204403406Dunno about that. Every asian I've met was significantly shorter than me, and I'm 5'10.
>>204403426>9 pages to go
>>204395381Agreed, make a second /film/ for modern directors, and banish them from here entirely.
>>204401246Fuck off, shill.
>>204403273>not sure because we use the metric system here1,78m, anon.
>>204403200Oh yeah, fuck, forgot about him. Desperately need to watch his films, big blindspot for me.
>>204403406I think 175 is the world average for men, it's not that bad anon, unless you live in a very tall country of course.
>>204403054I would fuck that dude
