Arthouse and classics.Renoir edition>/film/ chartshttps://mega.nz/folder/87xyiJjZ#3B2eXe2lmN2KbFNNEagggQ>/film/ literaturehttps://mega.nz/folder/XCokCRpR#tlesB0J_7jhaEWZVJqVzlAPrev: >>204715456
Haver? I barely know 'er!
Let’s do this. Post a song get a rec. https://youtu.be/GMqlmMDJxJQ?si=I-nae5zMQcDDDtG5
>>204729257I’m depressed. You have to help me find a movie to soothe the pain.
Jean Renoir, my love>In French cinema you have a father and a mother: the father is Bresson and the mother is Renoir, with Bresson representing the strictness of the law and Renoir warmth and generosity
>New American CinemaBrakhage, Mekas, Anger, Warhol, etc.>American New Wave/New HollywoodHopper, Hellman, Altman, Allen, etc.>No-WaveJarmusch, Borden, Ahearn, Bertoglio, etc.>Neo-No-Wave/Proto-MumblecoreGallo, Clark, Korine, Hartley, etc.>MumblecoreDuplass, Bronstein, Bujalski, Swanberg, etc.>Post-MumblecoreBaumbach, Alverson, Perry, Safdies, etc.>MumblegoreSaulnier, Wingard, Wheatley, Brice, etc.>Mumblecore Revival/Neo-MumblecoreHaver, Kogonada, Cummings, Hill, etc.
>>204729257I don't know what to recommend you but that sounds very 90s so probably some 90s film>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAFu9NuJAuIWhen I listen to this song I think of Chaplin and his films
>>204729337Renoir really seemed like a mama’s boy.
>>204729412Based
>>204729410The greatest ones always are.
>>204729186Watch Toni (1935).
>>204729474Godard was a mama’s boy.
>>204729375>90 percent of them are jewsSeem that they have a grift where they invent a movement and place themselves in the top ranks.
>>204729375all hacks who hate cinema
>>204729297Gremlins 1 and 2
>>204729412You're killing me, anon
>>204729533Renoir can make a film that will make you feel completely miserable like Toni and then make something like The Grand Illusion which is all about never losing hope. Bresson is the same with A Man Escaped
>>204729566How was Jonas Mekas a hack who hated cinema? I don’t know what makes you think you can just whatever you want about people, and not explain yourself. You should keep your opinion to yourself
The New /film/ Manifesto1. /film/ seeks a new spirituality in art. Therefore, /film/ seeks a new spirituality in cinema. Spiritual film does not mean films about Jesus or the Buddha. Spiritual film is not about religion. It is cinema concerned with humanity and an understanding of the simple truths and moments of humanity. Spiritual film is really ALL about these moments.2. Cinema could be one of the perfect methods of creative expression, due to the ability of the filmmaker to sculpt with image, sound and the feeling of time. For the most part, the creative possibilities of cinema have been squandered. Cinema is not a painting, a novel, a play, or a still photograph. The rules and methods used to create cinema should not be tied to these other creative endeavors. Cinema should NOT be thought of as being “all about telling a story”. Story is a convention of writing, and should not necessarily be considered a convention of filmmaking.3. The Japanese ideas of wabi-sabi (the beauty of imperfection) and mono no aware (the awareness of the transience of things and the bittersweet feelings that accompany their passing), have the ability to show the truth of existence, and should always be considered when making the /film/.4. An artificial sense of “perfection” should never be imposed on a /film/. Flaws should be accepted and even encouraged. To that end, a /film/maker should consider the use of film, and particularly film like Super-8mm and 16mm because these mediums entail more of a risk and a requirement to leave things up to chance, as opposed to digital video. Digital video is for people who are afraid of, and unwilling to make mistakes. Video leads to a boring and sterile cinema. Mistakes and failures make your work honest and human.5. Film, particularly Super-8mm film, has a rawness, and an ability to capture the poetic essence of life, that video has never been able to accomplish.(cont.)
>>2047297186. Intuition is a powerful tool for honest communication. Your intuition will always tell you if you are making something honest, so use of intuition is key in all stages of /film/making.7. Any product or result of human creativity is inherently subjective, due to the beliefs, biases and knowledge of the person creating the work. Work that attempts to be objective will always be subjective, only instead it will be subjective in a dishonest way. Objective films are inherently dishonest. Stanley Kubrick, who desperately and pathetically tried to make objective films, instead made dishonest and boring films.8. The /film/ is always subjective and never aspires to be objective.9. /film/ is not Dogme ’95. We do not have a pretentious checklist that must be followed precisely. This manifesto should be viewed only as a collection of ideas and hints whose author may be mocked and insulted at will.10. The /film/maker must always have the courage to fail, even hoping to fail, and to find the honesty, beauty and humanity in failure.11. The /film/maker should never expect to be thanked or congratulated. Instead, insults and criticism should be welcomed. You must be willing to go ignored and overlooked.12. The /film/maker should be accepting of their influences, and should have the bravery to copy from them in their quest for understanding of themselves.13. /film/ should be a stripped down, minimal, lyrical, punk kind of filmmaking, and is a close relative to the No-Wave Cinema that came out of New York’s Lower East Side in the 1970’s.14. /film/ is for the young, and for those who are older but still have the courage to look at the world through eyes as if they are children.Notable /film/makersJoel HaverT.B. JohnsonKim Gap-sik
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>>204729718>>204729751Well said.
>>204729718>>204729751yea im thinkin cringe lil bro
>>204729718>>204729751Fuck off with your shitty doctrine
Niggas above me mad at AI again no cap
>>204729412Fucking kek
>>204729408A Taste of Honey for me is the first film I think about when I think of Morrissey.
>>204729751I like your take about dogme and their shitty checklist although this is oddly specific > and is a close relative to the No-Wave Cinema that came out of New York’s Lower East Side in the 1970’s.
I wish I was born in the Victorian era. Please recommend me period films from then.
>>204730195Wow this is literally the Japanese girl version of me.
Has any "legendary" filmmaker's reputation been more artificially inflated by the work of his composers than Dario Argento's?
>>204729751>Kim Gap-sikGapsik was more synthwave, like the whole Kung Fury retrofuture genre.
>>204730296https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si2qqpSAk14
>>204730291Forgot pic. I’m so depressed everyone.
>>204729412Fucking incredible, at the end the text should appear onscreen
>>204729718>>204729751I’m just imagining the person who takes even a millisecond of time out of their existence to write this, let alone how long it probably actually took. Fucking hysterical, yet I start to feel bad for you
>>204728919Altman, Korine, Gallo, and Clark are all I've watched from your list (to my knowledge), and they're all based.>>204729257Fight Club, because that song is literally Where Is My Mind? If not, check something by Sono, similar vibes. Now, give me a rec https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r1zWTyjnso
>>204730349Understandable depression, you watch films by Nakashima
stacie starrannabelle flowerstaylor mooreraylenezoey hollowaybrianna beachtara taintonpersia monirrachel steelemargo sullivannatalie wondertaboomomnatashabutt3rflyforumissbehavin26Jolie Lyonkitty lerouxlovely lilithannabelle rogersxev bellringerfiona daggermistresstsloansmoanslalunalewdlewdestbunniesydney harwindaras daily tabooJaybbgirlMiss Malorie SwitchMama FionaTatum ChristineJocelyn Bakeranyone else I'm forgetting?
What are some films that are uncomfortable to watch, in the vein of Lolita (1962) and The Damned (1969), not talking about torture porn stuff
>>204730602yeah you forgot your mom
>>204730602you know who...
How much are you dropping on the criterion sale tomorrow?
>>204730747Happiness Todd Solondz maybe
>>204730747Furuhata's Time of Wickedness, a film about a mother and son's sexual relationship
>>204730747Still can't bring myself to watch Gummo. Maybe someday.
>>204730747La luna by bertolucci
>>204730747Watch FOTW Cold Fish.
Can't even remember the last time I watches a movie in the regular speed.At least 2x now. I watched Lawrence of Arabia at 3x (only way to watch it)
>>204730808$0I got all my criterions from the Mega that was floating around a few months ago, and use criterion channel to get the bonus points which I then spend on clothes because I am a NEET.
>>204730909That is good but Bertolucci dances around it too much. Furuhata's Time of Wickedness has hardcore incest scenes and the mom is just like so what.
>>204730932Holy based
>>204730747The Piano TeacherL'humanité A Woman Under the Influence
>>204730808lmao
>>204730847>>204730851>>204730882>>204730909Thanks guys>>204730912I've seen it, good stuff>>204730932Should've watched it on Apple watch like Cronenberg suggested
>>204730955How many years have you been living the dream? I'm on a one year "sabbatical".
>>204730747Any Hitchcock- uncomfortable because of how fucking shitty they are
>>204731101It's more the feeling of overration and midness that tickles me.
>>204731101>>204731135both factually correct.Hitchcock is not respected in the halls of /film/
>>204730602Ashley Fire.
>>204729452>>204729618>>204729910>>204730419
>>204730994Thanks, seen The Piano Teacher, Haneke films in general tend to be like that>>204731101I understand that this is bait but still want to say that Hitchcock's Psycho is basically what I'm asking for but it's just too mildAnother example is pic related obviously
>>204731048Worked bullshit retail job and saved all my money for 7 years, quit back in May, haven't looked back since.
What are some films that center around a conspiracy?
>>204731433Mr Klein
>>204731285I fucking love it
>>204731326I’ll say none of the films listed so far are uncomfortable to watch in the slightest. Because they’re movies. They’re fake.What would make me uncomfortable would be watching Mexican cartel execution videos, self harm videos, real videos of violence/sexual harm.
>>204731433Satantango
>>204731433David Cronenberg's The Shrouds but we'll have to wait for that
>>204731433>>204731683Fortunately we don't have to wait for Scanners and Videodrome
>>204731578Cannibal Holocaust has real animal abuse but I didn't know that upon watching so it didn't hit me any harder than any other movie. Only learning about it afterwards gave me a sour feeling.
>>204731578https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0231523/
>>204731486>>204731681Danke>>204731683Guy I watched on YouTube who saw it at Cannes said he had mixed feelings about it but had a better opinion of it after mulling it over.
>>204731578>Because they’re movies. They’re fake.Are you on the spectrum? Genuine question
>>204731578autism
Basedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ispA65TpZ8
Someone a couple of months ago mentioned how Sonatine messed them up. While it was a unique Yakuza movie, I just don't see how it would mentally scar anyone. Can someone care to explain?
>>204732182That shot (no pun intended) is probably more popular than any of Kitano's actual films lmao
>>204732182It was me, it didn't mentally scar me at all, just messed me up because I related so much to Murawata. I just understand the character so deeply that I felt all of his nihilistic depression as if it was mine. Something similar happened to me with the silly samurai in Seven Samurai.
>>204732230While Kitano is good, it is pretty cringe how he casts himself as some yakuza tough guy in all of his films.
>>204732182Best Kitano movie is Brother because it randomly has a nigger in his squad
what is the criteria for wacky /film/?
>>204729751I never thought /film/ would be so contrarian that they're pretending to hate Kubrick now. He is all your favorite director's favorite director.
>>204732281Yakuza emotional guy*, and btw, how could it be cringe having an interest in something? It's not as if he was larping lol
>>204732323>one person is /film/all me btw
>>204730747L.I.E. (2001)
>>204732323>nowNigga we hate John Ford now, give us 3 more years and we'll be saying that we actually hate cinema in general and only 'enjoy it ironically', sort of like what /a/ has become in ~2014
>>204732518>we hate John FordI don't. Think for yourself and be the change you want to see in the /film/
>>204729412Now THIS is Tsaiposting!
>>204729036>/mu/ sounding terminologyNo wave is an actual music genre but you already knew that.
What are some films that portray the same feelings as Edward Hopper paintings?
>>204732862>John Fordtootsie pop filmmaker
>>204732301Thanks for reminding me I need to update that chart ultimately no one will be pleased with kek
>>204731433The Manchurian Candidate (both 1962 and 2004)
>>204732967Jeanne Dielman
Finishing three songs right now, will share one of them when i'm done.
>>204732963Mumblecore is hardcore punk with soundcloud rappers from 2016 on the vocals
>>204733286nice!
>>204733658Gonna watch that tonight.
>>204732972>KFC arthouse
>>204733928tootsie pop arthouse because his films are mainly all filler aside from the little bite of chocolate at the center.
>>204733658proof you can't make /film/ without beautiful peopleput an ugly woman in her place and it becomes a comedie./film/ is basically casting beautiful people.
>>204732967It's crazy how hard it is to find movies with this vibe even though he is such a famous painter and it wouldn't be hard to replicate. Maybe Roy Andersson movies?
>>204733444https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymSgls0Ce24
>>204734155>Roy Anderssoncorny
>>204734034Explain Pasolini then.
>>204733658this movie was weird. what was the point of the whole antique collector guy besides making him buy that ~spoopy~ paintingalso that fight with the black swan was goofy
>>204734238The prostitutes in Accatone and Mamma Roma were super hot, what you talking about BOY?!
>>204732287We don't use that word around here.
>>204734269There's a LOT of ugly people in Pasolini's films and you know it.
>>204733286>>204733482https://voca.ro/1A1k3uhUnxzh
>>204734030I take it you didn’t like The Searchers?
NTA, i've written this before, butFord is a business man not an artist. Ford made films for like two decades that revolved around designating the Indians as villains and savages. Suddenly with the Searchers he flipped a switch and was like, nah, I changed my mind? WTF? what is that wishy washyness?If he was around today he would be proudly proclaiming the benefits of wokeism. He would be casting blacks in lead roles. Not because he actually believes in it but because The Searchers is regarded for changing the narrative about Settlers vs. Indians into not such a black and white framework. But that black and white framework was only there because simpletons like Ford perpetuated them. and then to say nah, I don't believe that anymore, either invalidates his entire filmography before the searchers, or invalidates the searchers itself for having fraudulent beliefs that from the filmmakers.
>>204732967>>204734155I think Zurlini comes the closest
>>204729337The mother is a lot older than the father...
>>204734958Is there any reason why Zurlini used the word 'summer' in two of his movies' titles?
ford films are a gift for the cinema lovers>the grapes of wrath>young mr lincoln>the searchers>rio grande>pilgrimage>the long gray line>how green was my valley>the quiet man >stagecoach>the man who shot liberty valancetruly a craftsman
>>204735126Only one (Violent Summer/Estate violenta). Indian Summer is the english title but is called La prima notte di quiete in Italian.
>>204734958Kino of the highest order.
Ford is Christopher Nolan Capeshit for boomers.
went to the grocery store today, barely went out at all for the past week. Saw a very cute girl working the counter. One of those really pale white girls with those nose piercings I usually hate, but she had the sweetest most meek and docile personality. I got nervous and literally started sweating because she turned out to be my type. She noticed how nervous I was and it was a little embarrassing, but I think I'll go back to that same store next week. I just need to watch some shitty female friendly rom-com to learn some moves. Sorry for the blog post, just had to get it out there.
>>204734034Yeah no shit. Film has nothing to do with reality. The cinema is lies at 24 frames per second. If you doubt me, look at how an audience reacts when you tell them the truth (the latest Joker movie)
>>204735799bro that could've been a meet cute
>>204735264Ah, okay then. Thanks. Btw, would you happen to know any way I can watch Indian Summer? I've been wanting to for a long time.
>>204735811>Yeah no shit. Film has nothing to do with reality.Hitchcock fans, everybody
>>204736022Show me an objectively true film and I will show you the biggest lie ever told.
>>204734918Can't a man change his views?>>204735799I don't want to sound like a neggative fag, but you can't expect a movie to teach you moves goddamnnn. If it works for you, go on, but you can't seriously rely on that my nigga.
>>204729718>>204729751holy shit kill yourselfi think i might have go to war against this faggot subreddit
>>204736096>you can't expect a movie to teach you moves goddamnnnThat's not true. I've adopted Alain Delon's movie personas and it's worked many times.
>>204736149The Leeench one was better. Way more vitriol about the forces we are up against. Art is forged from hate first. Remember that.
>>204735905Bullshit. Explain how you ask someone out in that scenario.
The /Film/ ManifestoIn our modern day soulless age, we, the signed, Generation Z, and Generation A, are seeking new modes of authenticity and truth in cinema.The filmmakers of the past have let us down, focusing on political pandering, aloof satirization, and the current trends of the arthouse, including, gay sex, trannyism, and hardcore gore.The current day filmmakers are chasing lazy, indulgent genre exercises called "elevated horror"They believe that this genre, 'elevated horror' allows them to be auteurs like the greats of the past, while indulging in the ugliest impulses of today's filmmakers.They wish to have their cake and eat it too.The truth is that these 'elevated horror' films belong in the dumpster.We in /film/ reject the horror genre all together.We reject CGI, AI, and digital tools.We reject the Cannes Film Festival, the Berlin Film Festival, and the Venice Film Festival (all have now been co-opted by David Lynchian 'elevated horror' films, therefore they all must be discarded).We in /film/ champion 35mm and 16mm film NOT digital cinematography.We champion real actors, practical effects, and hand made cinema.We champion melodrama as the peak of cinema. Films about real people, real drama, and real themes.We reject 'symbolic' themes. We reject 'film as paintings', which only serves to confuse the power of cinema into abstraction.This abstraction has become a crutch for the worst filmmakers.We reject David Lynch. We reject the cowardice of ambiguity instead of concrete themes. We reject spectacle and memes instead of real human authenticity. We reject catch phrases. We reject vibes, for they are a means to lull you into hypnosis. A true film will wake you up, not draw you into sleep.Signed, Generation Z, and our friends, Generation A. We are the future. Respect us because soon, you will have no choice.
>>204736245Film will only ever be great when the handmaiden of high culture. Film is not sufficient on its own to be significant or great, it depends on a flourishing culture, but does not create one. It is at the bottom rank of the arts.
>>204736174the attitude, the appearance or both? big if true
>>204735238>>stagecoachOnly tried watching this one and it was absolute shit. But I'm still interested in The Searchers maybe.
>>204736302Watch Quiet Man first. It's his best movie.
>>204735799I believe in you, go back there and talk to her.
>>204736293I admit I'm not hideously ugly or short, so adopting Delon's attitude might not work for everyone.
>>204736302My Darling Clementine, anon, if you don't like that than just forget Ford forever and also never come back to /film/.
lel, I see my rewriting of the remodernist manifesto rustled quite a few jimmieshttps://www.rogerebert.com/roger-ebert/the-remodernist-film-manifesto
>>204736434I didn't like Clementine but I did like Quiet Man.
>>204736434>and also never come back to /film/.You idiots always go to extremes.
>>204736605Seriously, if John Ford filters you you don't belong here.
Ford is still the most Brechtian of all filmmakers.
>>204735799You only need some Andrew Tate to make it bro, trust me.
>>204736710???? HOW?
>>204735905>>204736096>>204736406thank you for the encouraging words my frens
>>204736245>We reject vibes, for they are a means to lull you into hypnosis. A true film will wake you up, not draw you into sleep.Wrong. Movies have a hypnotic power. Just watch people leaving a movie theatre; they're usually silent, their heads droop, they have that absentminded look on their fxes, unlike audiences at plays, bullfights, and sports events, where they show much more energy and animation. This kind of cinematographic hypnosis is no doubt due to the darkness of the theatre and to the rapidly changing scenes, lights, and camera movements, which weaken the spectator's critical intelligence and exercise over him a kind of fascination. Sometimes, watching a movie is a bit like being raped
>>204732967>>204734155Easy, Alan Rudolph films. The Moderns, Choose Me, Trouble in Mind in particular. Also the movie equivalent of rainy night jazzy music like Sade or Simply Red
Am I watching kino? Not sure yet
>>204736853It's a Jean-Marie Straub quote. I've never actually watched a Ford movie in my life.
We're all appreciators of wabi-sabi here.
>>204736650Why do retards on /film/ think everyone is obliged to adore everything from the established canon, lest they be deemed 'imbeciles'? I suppose you're joking, but I'm sure some people take this 'filtered' meme seriously.
>>204738521We're all appreciators of wasabi here.
>>204738521For me it's wabisabi flavored peas
Hi guys.The movie is released today.We had not enough budget and time so the movie quality will not be good.You might not be satisfied but I really hope you enjoy this film.This is our first project in Korea and we will make it more detailed next time.Constructive feedback is always welcome.Keep watching and supporting us!Watch, Subscribe, Like please.Thank you!Here's the linkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdvqHZWLZrk&t=
>>204738700The movie is indeed released.
>>204738700nigga we got it the first time
>>204738700You do realize that there are only like 10 mentally ill autists who come here, and they are the only ones who see this when you post this don’t you? Do you really want to be associated with that? As an insane person myself, I recognize it in nearly every post here.
>>204738700You should post this on /hor/
>>204738935There must be a better place to share one’s films than 4chan. I, personally, would not want to be associated with this website. Not that I don’t recognize that there are some kind and cool people here, that’s obvious, but it seems that there are 10 contemptible posters for every one. I wouldn’t want that to tarnish my work, because I know how people are quick to judge nowadays without thinking. It shouldn’t be like that, but it is. Negative connotations brought by certain associations will most definitely fuck you.
>>204732967Not films but Texhnolyze obviously. Also for me Boogiepop Phantom original anime maybe?
>>204738700Could you not find a theater that would show your film? You could advertise it in unique ways like William Castle did according to whatever budget you have. I think I remember John Waters saying he used to ride around in a casket or hearse encouraging anyone watching to go see his movie. Something like that to me seems like a more soulful way of sharing your film. I don’t know where you are located in Korea, but it seems to me as an outsider that there is a lot of excitement and passion for the film industry. Possibly just having the right person watch your film and enjoy it would be enough to at least begin networking. Maybe, I am wrong. I’m just telling you what I do with my own art. It isn’t cinema though.
>>204738700Do you actually plan on making more episodes?
>>204739385Maybe, show your film by projecting it illegally around the city. Fuck the law brother. Die for your art.
Remember how Werner Herzog stole the equipment necessary to create his films! He said he felt he had a natural right to them. In a way, I think that he was right! That must be the passion an artist has for their art!
>>204739539Fuck off! I can tell that he is passionate and that’s all that matters to me.
>>204739523Herzog is a known liar
>>204739578Whether he lied or not, my point still remains.
>>204739431Imagine living in a world so dystopic that you need permission to project a film in public.
>>204739814Force people to watch it! Kidnap your favorite director and don’t let him leave until he watches your film! If you really believe in your art, you will do this!
>>204739870You're goddamn right.
>>204738700Ok, now you can go fuck yourself
Do you believe your favorite fimmakers have similar cinematic taste and sensibilities? I feel like you can kind of group filmmakers together by their sensibilities, though I'm not sure I have the exact words for it.
>>204739870Real life doesn't work like a sitcom or a Herzog lie. You try to steal a camera and some big black security guard will tackle you and crush the camera in the process, and you will be forced to pay for it. You kidnap a director, he will watch it yeah, then he will promise you the world, but as soon as he's out of that room, he will call a swat team to rape you with gunfire. Point is, Herzog is a liar who just tells people what they want to hear. His stories about Kinski are all a lie. Kinski was a great man. Herzog by all accounts was the asshole.
>>204740423Does this look like a violent man?
>>204740423You mustn’t speak to me about the way life works. I strongly disagree.
>>204740642Share us how in your fantasy you can commit a crime of stealing and not face any consequences. >>204740530>rapes his own daughters for fun
>Daddy why can't you just be proud of me for once? I'm an actress starring in a freaking Lars Von Trier movie. You are not going to stop me from exploring my art on screen.
>>204740737Figure it out for yourself. You mustn’t speak to me anymore. If you do, I shall no longer respond.
>>204740826do you think he watched it or turned it off when he saw where it was going
>>204740942I am convinced Ron Howard masturbated to Bryce getting blacked in Manderlay.
>>204740942>>204740987>>204740826You guys are weird.
>>204741030DIE ZOOMER
Has watching /films/ and consuming "high art" brought any closer to enlightenemnt? You do fancy yourself an intellectual don't you?So how do you back it up? You do have the right conclusions, right? You understand the modern world, right? You know this great evil, where it's come from? how'd it steal into the world?You're not just mindlessly shitposting about obscure movies, right? You understand the concept of kitsch and canmp? You're not afraid of putting something kitsch (mass appeal) into a list of great cinema?
>>204741104/x/ has always been the endgame of /film/
>>204741090>>204741104Both of you should fuck right off!
>>204738195Kek, of course that retarded Marxist bitch has to see Ford, the most simplistic commercial director, as Brechtian.
>IgnoredDamn.
>>204741159Occultism is indeed cool and I like the symbolism even if it's thrown together with no rhyme or reason (The Holy Mountain)But I also appreciate rationality, and order and simple mundance things. The pic I posted is from Ozu.
>>204741104Cool it with the anti-semitism, bro.
>>204741287Bingo!
>>204741104>Has watching /films/ and consuming "high art" brought any closer to enlightenemnt? You do fancy yourself an intellectual don't you?So how do you back it up? You do have the right conclusions, right? You understand the modern world, right? You know this great evil, where it's come from? how'd it steal into the world?Unironically, yes to all of this, besides for fancying myself an intellectual.
>>204741631Then go ahead, back it up! I'll give you that It's actually a good thing you don't fancy yourself an intellectual, that's a good start to your response.“The ancient Oracle said that I was the wisest of all the Greeks. It is because I alone, of all the Greeks, know that I know nothing.”
>>204741740Create a discord server and I will tell all in the morning! I am dead serious about all of this, but tonight I am druk!
>>204740318I don't think so. Buñuel, Antonioni and Scorsese, -to give some names-, are pretty different from each other, I'd say even at a core personality level.
>>204741846Just say it here, we'll wait for you to sober up, that's ok.
In a discord server, we can have our own symposium! We can form a better understanding of /film/ and each other! We can have real discussion, and discover the truth of whatever we want. How much longer must we continue this farce on 4chan? I see something much greater on the horizon, if you will allow it come to into fruition!
>>204741104>Has watching /films/ and consuming "high art" brought any closer to enlightenemnt?Consuming life has brought me closer to endarkenment, which I ironically consider to be true light.>You do fancy yourself an intellectual don't you?Not really, but I'm smart.>You know this great evil, where it's come from?I don't know where it's come from, but there is great evil in the world, indeed.>You're not afraid of putting something kitsch (mass appeal) into a list of great cinema?Nope, but it's hard to find commercial kino that is great these days.
>>204741953Cinema not film* and correction to all my other errors. If you only knew how good things could be /film/. (:
Official /film/ discord server, get in herehttps://discord.gg/YWn8aW
>>204741189It sucks.>>204741200Satanism is cool, classic Jodo type stuff doesn't move me at all (and ends up being satanic in a lame way anyway)>>204741953Just do it yourself and invite us?
This... was... mid...
Ezra Pound's reviews for ten movies from 1942:>Bambi:>Filth.>Casablanca:>This movie is filth.>Cat People:>A race may civilize itself BY LANGUAGE, not film. Cat People is filth.>Gentleman Jim:>To the Animals who made this usurious film: god damn you.>The Magnificent Ambersons:>This movie is indistinguishable from the filth-rustlings of swine in a sty.>The Man Who Came to Dinner:>May you choke on it, bacilli.>Yankee Doodle Dandy:>I sort of liked James Cagney’s filthy Irish energy in this one.>The Palm Beach Story:>BLESS: The Italian Dolcestilnovisti, the “sweet new style” current in the time of the papish Ghelfs and the imperial Ghibellines. One will particularly take heed of its foremost practitioner, Guido Cavalcanti.>BLAST: Preston Sturges and the Jewish moneylenders who helped him to make this film.>Now, Voyager:>Two boils for the director’s infected liver.>This Gun for Hire:>This film reeks of syphilis. Filth.Ezra Pound's review for Perri, 1957:>There is a lot of competition that never was there before. Take the serious side of Disney, the Confucian side of Disney. It’s in having taken an ethos, as he does in Perri, that squirrel film, where you have the values of courage and tenderness asserted in a way that everybody can understand. You have got an absolute genius there. You have got a greater correlation of nature than you have had since the time of Alexander the Great. Alexander gave orders to the fishermen that if they found out anything about fish that was interesting, a specific thing, they were to tell Aristotle. And with that correlation you got ichthyology to the scientific point where it stayed for two thousand years. And now one has got with the camera an enormous correlation of particulars. That capacity for making contact is a tremendous challenge to literature. It throws up the questions of what needs to be done and what is superfluous.
>>204741975>I don't know where it's come from, but there is great evil in the world, indeed.Good answer. I also liked Jews as an ironic (or not so ironic) answer. But just admitting the great evil exists is fine by me.Can you give concrete examples of what you consider to be this great evil?>Nope, but it's hard to find commercial kino that is great these days.It doesn't have to be "these days". In fact I think it's a good thing that you have a sense of a decline and lack of quality in "these days"Can you give concrete examples of kitsch you love?
How do you discover new movies?
>>204742007>It sucks.I thought I posed a pretty good question too.>>204741933>Buñuel, Antonioni and Scorsese are pretty different from each other, >I'd say even at a core personality level.You don't see anything in common between the three of them? Not even a slight throughline? I only ask because I feel like the directors and films I like all follow a certain trend, as do the directors and films I despise. I saw a clip of Spielberg talking about The Shining that made me think about it.
>>204742349You go to films.
>>204742349https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/204161450/#q204173324https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/204177363/#q204185515
>>204742349TSPDT, ryn, /film/, old /tv/ charts (anyone got that japanese films one?)One important lesson I'll give is to stop porcrascinating and watch way more movies, just one after the other, don't be one of those faggots that waits for the "right mood" and watches like 3 films a yearYou need to pump your consumption way up
>>204742349Just look up Sarah Gadon.
>>204729718>>204729751Hodge-podge of Mekas, Bazin and Armond White.
>>204742547Three a day is too much, innit?
>>204742547Why did this nigga criticize Godard for watching too many films and “ruining his eyesight”?
>>204742440It's wonderful she married a Jewish man.
>>204742547This is literally me. All I'm doing is consooming movies and music 24/7. Though I should put more effot into reading.
>>204742642He’s unironically right. This lifestyle has actually made me quite happy.
>>204742713can you elborate more?
>https://youtu.be/Ui3t_qddGNo?si=j1yA5-5AId3aRmTFJigoku was kino, especially that ending.
>>204730932>t. grifter
>>204742918I’m in tears. That ending was powerful. The whole concept of the movie was great.
>>204742547Have a negroni. Have two.
>>204743441I think I will. Thanks anon! ;) hehehe
>>204731285Beautiful
Did anyone here watch this movie? >>204744045 This is what I think about it so far. Some scenes seemed unnecessary and something was definitely missing.
>>204735999Ruttracker has it in good quality.
>>204744123not /film/
>>204744236I swear if I go to the effort of downloading it from ruttracker it'll just have a Russian voiceover.
>>204744380How is it not?
>>204744388The default audio track is always Russian on ruttracker but they always include the original audio as well, just change it in plex/whatever you use to watch your downloaded films. I downloaded the 10gb version from there.
>>204738575Ford is no longer 'established canon' aside from The Searchers, tasteless idiots won, now Jeanne Dielman is established canon wohoo. Reminder that before the 50s The Informer was considered to be the greatest Hollywood film and then everyone just forgot about it, you never see it mentioned anywhere. The Grapes of Wrath also used to be part of the small (just 20 films or so) S&S canon in 1952 and where is it now? >>204735238You are a real one for mentioning Pilgrimage>>204739161https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9v3uJVjgS8
>>204744457Okay thank you man.
>>204734982That’s why French cinema is all retarded then.
>>204744388MKVToolNix is your friend. You can just remove all the unwanted audio/sub tracks
>>204745244>MKVToolNixI'll check it out, thanks.
Good morning, /film/
>>204735238My fav Ford joint is Wagon Master. Ben Johnson rides a horse better than anybody in any movie. He was a rodeo world champion. The John Ford of horse riding in a movie by the John Ford of filmmaking. Wow!
Hi everyone! What was the last film that made you cry a good cry? I woke up feeling like crying today.
>>204745442Good morning Gadonbro!
>>204745488*Jewbro
>>204745465The reason I ask this is because there is no room for emotions or tears in my life. I basically live in Il Posto world, and have no friends so art is the only way I can feel and express emotion. I once saw a woman bawling on the train and nobody including me tried to comfort her when she clearly needed it. Life leaves little room for expressing emotion. I have cried in a bar, but everyone pretended to ignore me too.
How about we stop using the n word especially the hard version. I think if I were black I would be deeply hurt by this.
Also, don’t you find it a little disturbing that there is a folder called coomer with a chart that contains movies of underage girls. Wtf is that?
So what did we think?Kino or dishonest slop?
>>204745732Kino. Lee is a true Korean director unlike that meme Americaboo loser Bong, who has desperately been trying to break into Hollywood for his entire career and just makes Spielberg copyslop.
>>204745732I love it and only like two months ago I remember everyone here praising it but now anons here seem to hate it for some reason
>>204745647>But ... fucking, you see, and the young girls. Judges want to fuck young girls. Juries want to fuck young girls. Everyone wants to fuck young girls!
>>204745829That’s actually retarded. Also, why the fuck is the folder labeled coomer anyways? Wtf man!?
>>204745829https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHwrmtQXKaU
>>204745918Polanski’s characters are caricatures of actual people. The worst example of this is in that stupid film “Carnage”.
>>204745918Imagine being so mindbogglingly good at your job that you can just freely say this shit knowing they’re gonna keep employing you kekNo current generation director is talented enough to get away with this behaviour
>>204729186Recommend me some good films.
>>204745918Lmao Polanski just doesn't fuck around. When you check various directors' and actors' wiki pages you can often see>signed a petition in support of Polanskiand I find that shit to be just crazy, like he is sitting in that interview basically saying 'oh yeah I'm a pedo' and people don't care
>>204745732It's good but it's too fucking long. Secret Sunshine is better.
It's finally ready. The Ultimate /film/ Manifesto1. A New Spirituality: /film/ seeks a new spirituality in cinema, focusing on humanity and the profound truths of existence, rather than religious narratives.2. Authenticity Over Convention: Cinema is a unique art form that should not be confined to storytelling conventions or mimic other mediums like painting or literature.3. Embrace Imperfection: We celebrate wabi-sabi and mono no aware—the beauty of imperfection and the transience of life. Flaws in film are honest and human, and should be accepted and encouraged.4. Intuition as Guide: Filmmakers must trust their intuition throughout the creative process to ensure authenticity and honesty in their work.5. Subjectivity is Key: All cinema is inherently subjective; attempts at objectivity often lead to dishonest portrayals. A true film reflects the beliefs and biases of its creator.6. Rejecting Modern Aesthetics: We reject the trends of ‘elevated horror,’ CGI, AI, and the commercialization of cinema that prioritize spectacle over substance.7. Championing Analog: /film/ advocates for the use of 16mm and 35mm film over digital formats. Handcrafted cinema with practical effects offers a rawness and poetic essence absent in digital work.8. Rejecting Modern Festivals: Major film festivals that prioritize trendy, abstract works over authentic storytelling are to be discarded. We seek genuine cinema that engages with real human experiences.9. Emphasizing Melodrama: We view melodrama as the pinnacle of cinema—films that explore real themes, human experiences, and emotional truths.10. Critique of Abstract Cinema: Symbolic themes and abstract filmmaking often obfuscate meaning. Cinema should awaken viewers to concrete truths rather than lull them into complacency.(cont.)
>>20474609911. Courage to Fail: Filmmakers must have the courage to embrace failure as a path to finding beauty and humanity in their work, rather than seeking validation or accolades.12. Inclusivity of Voices: Cinema is a collaborative art form, yet the vision of an individual auteur should not overshadow collective efforts. Great films can emerge from both well-known and unknown creators.13. Challenge and Provocation: True cinema should confront difficult truths and challenge viewers, provoking thought rather than simply providing entertainment.14. Rejecting Inauthenticity: We stand against inauthenticity in cinema, mass media marketing, and political agendas that manipulate artistic expression for commercial gain.15. Diversity of Experience: Cinema can be anything but boring; if it must be boring, it must still offer a captivating perspective that engages the viewer's mind.This manifesto is a collection of principles and ideas meant to inspire and provoke thought. It is not dogma; filmmakers are encouraged to engage with these concepts critically and creatively.
>>204742349One of these methods>Browse by the latest uploads and pick the ones with beautiful women>Browse by director/actor/someone else whose work I've enjoyedI also do some syntopical viewing of the contemporaries of highly regarded directors. Lists and recommendations are useless to me
>>204745775Whenever you enter a burning thread there's always like 10:1 haters/tv/ sloppers have no taste
>>204745764So true. Bongo is a hack. Anyone have any Korean directors to recommend?
True /film/ Manifesto:1. Isabelle Adjani is cute2. Fight Club is gay3. Don’t watch movies
>>204746137No I mean like here on /film/, not /tv/. I don't really browse the board itself
>>204745829What did he mean be this?
>>204745602I'm racist towards black culture and I find them ugly. But whenever I use the nigger word I'm mostly poking fun at your stupid faggot sensibilities. I don't even talk to any niggers.If you want true emancipation for the nigger american community, stop treating them as children and protecting their feelings.Unless you want to ostracize me like a true narc.
>>204746289All I’m saying is have empathy, and somehow this has turned into something completely different in your mind. Are you insane?
>>204746372Empathy? For your imaginary victim?
>>204746393Oh you are? I’m sorry.
>>204746289>I'm racist towards black cultureBlack American culture, or at least parts of it, is one of the few salvageable bits of American culture in general. That's the way the world sees it, like it or not.
>>204746447I'm sure African niggers are even worse.>>204746422Racism is a loaded concept you can't just be like>please dont say that its rude :(Are you fucking retarded?
>>204745647faggot. I'm going to make a second cunny chart just for you
>>204746478based
>>204746473>I'm sure African niggers are even worse.Whatever, nobody's talking about them here. The same way nobody is talking about Germs and Bongs when discussing (white) American culture.
>>204746447>That's the way the world sees it, like it or not.I'm European and I'm sick of these niggers whining and bitching and moaning. And what culture are you refering to? Hiphop? Fathelessness? Prison culture?
>>204746538>Faithelessness?Are we truly attributing this to negroes?
I am African
>>204746560He's staring at us...
I'm African-American, I'm African, I'm black as the moonHeritage of a small village, pardon my residenceCame from the bottom of mankindMy hair is nappy, my dick is big, my nose is round and wideYou hate me, don't you?You hate my people, your plan is to terminate my cultureYou're fuckin' evilI want you to recognize that I'm a proud monkeyYou vandalize my perception but can't take style from me
ricecel discord using reverse psychology to justify their nigger spambut you deserve it because you are stupid enough to fall for ityes, even asian porn addicted incels are smarter than you
>>204746910meds
>>204746812Kendrick Lamar is a grifter selling blackness to white millennials and zoomers. No black person listens to To Pimp a Butterfly.
/film/ really is mentally ill, isn’t it? I assumed it was a joke and laughed at the original comment, but now I am fairly certain that more than half the users are seriously fucked in the head.
>>204746994This, Kendrick is a joke in my hood.
>>204747110You talk like a woman. Here's my last (You) Faggot.
It’s not looking good for /film/. We give Gadonfag a lot of shit, but maybe we’re not so far off from him? Now that I think about it haven’t had a single productive conversation here. There have been a few good recommendations, but it’s mostly spamming gimmicks and waifuposting. Grim. >>204746910Nigga what?
Make /film/ Great Again
Anthelion stopped recruiting on OPS and RED, where will I get my kino from now? it's over
Somebody bake
>>204747327on it
>>204746070Horror and Hamsters
Não deixe o /film/ morrer
>>204748999Neo dextro ã /film/ meurtriere
>>204746160Bae Yong-kyunKim Ki-youngYu Hyon-mokIm Kwon-taekJang Sun-wooPark Kwang-suYoon Yong-gyuPark Jin-youngHong Sang-soo
>>204749235bi ba bop
>>204749279thanks for the insightful response
>>204746099GAPSIK PILLED
It's Joan Fontaine's birthday today. Make the next edition hers.
>>204746160Kim Gap-sik
anyone seen this? I can't imagine it's worth the 999 minute runtime, but I'm intrigued by it
>>204749661
>>204746160Bong Joon-ho is not a hack. Stfu.>>204749235Great recommendations>>204749665Based
>>204749661birthdays dont count when ur dead lil bro
>>204749896Bong is a fraud and an enemy of Asians.
Nobody is cooking a new thread...
>>204749772oh no he gon eat them lmao
>>204750008still two posts til bump limit lil bro
>>204750008But there is an Anna Ammirati edition
>>204749772As a fat fuck, how did he command so much respect at that weight? People treat fatties like less than garbage men IRL.
>>204750008haven't hit bump limit yet, lil bro
>>204742124>Can you give concrete examples of what you consider to be this great evil?In the world of kino, it manifests itself as the decline in quality that we all see, which goes hand in hand with the overration of mid cinema by the masses and now the critics. In the larger world, it comes from secret societies, political and religious manipulation and dark occult forces. On a personal level, people are unaware of their own narcissism.>Can you give concrete examples of kitsch you love?Russ Meyer>>204742355>You don't see anything in common between the three of them? Not even a slight throughline?There are similarities, of course, but I think at a core level they're very different as persons and filmmakers.
>>204749959You are a schizo and an enemy of mine!
>>204750051Choke on a fortune cookie.
>>204749005>>204749005>>204749005>>204749005>>204749005
>>204746393There are black anons in this general
Fortune Cookie Filmmakers>Hector Babenco>Lino Brocka>Luis Bunuel>Jackie Chan>Alfonso Cuaron>Robert Eggers>Victor Gaviria>Bong Joon-ho>Wong Kar-wai>Ang Lee>Fernando Meirelles>Esteban Ramirez>Carlos Reygadas>Sion Sono>Edward Yang
>>204750093>he baked an hour agoAre you retarded?
>>204750102>latinx directors>fortune cookieRetard.
>>204746372Unironical racists are some of the stupidest people in the world, talking to them should only be done for fun or to expose their idiocy. Don't waste your time trying to make a good person from what is a rock.>>204746994This is actually true, horrible "rapper".
>>204750150>can't conceptualize the meaning behind the fortune cookiegood way of telling me you are a third worlder without expressly saying it
>>204750190Kill yourself. I exposed the grift in the first place.
>>204750200>I exposed the grift in the first place.Kill yourself.
>>204750190Chipotle grift =/= Fortune cookie grift
>>204750200and it's a grift that applies to directors across different regions/races. all these directors are pulling the same grift, just not explicitly from asian countries. the fortune cookie is just a good representation of boxing, americanizing, and selling your culture. I don't understand how you are too dumb to comprehend this
>>204750258>>204750257
>>204750258You calling everything fortune cookie regardless of its origin is just another evil attack on Asian identity. End yourself, scum.
>>204750375>retarded thirdie doesn't understand I'm agreeing with himI'm done responding to you
>>204750152Or you're just a stupid nigger
>>204750400Hopefully that's because you'll be ending your life. Calling latin American filmmakers fortune cookie means you are an evil scumbag and an enemy of Asians.
>>204750428Or you're just a stupid gimmicker with no arguments that tries to escape every conflict through sheer force.
We're all enemies of Asians here.
>>204750152>racistsRaceniggers in general, see this fucking place.
>>204745732Total shit, absolutely nothing interesting or original