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Just one last ride, anon.

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They did Derek dirty in the epilogue.
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>>217144885
Ummmm, Holly ditches Josh, for Delightful Derek.
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Do those kids all have Vecna eggs in their stomachs or what
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>>217144927
Are you sure about that?
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>>217144943
Mindflayer smoke.
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Even the epilogue would have been shit if the cast weren't borderline suicidal over the whole thing
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>never explain how this was possible
>it was impossible in what we see of the upside down in season 5
Remember when the Upside Down was unsettling and mysterious?
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>>217144951
I dunno, mate. She gives DD the shoulder bump.
I guess the Fluffer's have given all of us an, "It's all up to interpretation" pass.
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The Holly spinoff will be about 90s member berries, won't it?
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>>217145080
>Remember when the Upside Down was unsettling and mysterious?
I'd have just taken it not being a rock strewn desert with orange lighting
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Timmybros... we won...
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>>217145117
It wont be a 90's spinoff
It'll be a 50's spinoff and it's going to be trash
Flufferbros are one pump chumps
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>Will confronts the Midflayer
>Demo's fight
Never forget what these hacks took from you
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>>217145156
Racebaiters btfo
Most women are genuinely not racist. Any 6'3 broccoli chad will do.
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>>217145093
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Derek won btw
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>>217144943
In season one Will vomits up a baby demogorgon
In season two Dustin finds it and keeps it as a pet lol. Canonically all of these kids are supposed to be infected with demogorgon pupa or larvae but the duffers are shit and probably just forgot that they ever wrote or filmed that. Fans don't even remember what happened in season two, they just remember being angry about episode seven.
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>>217145117
Eight episodes of gymnastics camp in 1987
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>>217144826
Who cares about fake American behind the scenes. You Mcdonald eating unfunny retards already fake your outtakes.
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>>217145225
Thats not broccoli hair dummy
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>>217144951
>all tranny zoomers
Shocker
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These threads have really gone down the shitter
Or rather, onto the designated street, I should say
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>>217145189
I don't understand how grown adults being given a big paycheck cannot write a good plot/scenes? Like are these two genuinely brain dead or something and just stare at a wall all day? How can you have literally ZERO imagination?

A fucking 10 year old kid could have come up with a better finale for free.
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>>217144951
Holy shit how can Timmy even compete
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>>217144951
>randos on the internet are retarded
You post this as if a vast amount of retards didn't think Mike and Will were going to fuck in the finale.
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>>217145290
90% of the posts are just the jeet seething. There is really nothing left to say. The show went out like a wet fart.
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>>217144951
>this is why white boys are transitioning
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>>217145299
Greed, money ruins almost every fucking thing.
If someone offers you millions of dollars to keep a show going you're going to start tossing creatively bankrupt shit at the wall too, to keep the gravy train going. If it doesn't work you're still a millionaire. No way to lose.
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Vecna fears the sheer MASS of this gigachad
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>>217145263
>errm acktually
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>>217145299
It's clear they did not give a shit anymore and just wanted to get it over with.
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>>217144826
Why didn't the Mind Flayer have an army of demon gorgons and infernal dogs in the last fight?
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>>217145421
The mindflayer kinda forgot about his army
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>>217145421
according to the duffers it's because he "didn't expect them to be there"
i don't get it either
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>>217145420
then why continue it with like 7 spin off series?
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>>217145421
>>217145411
>If someone offers you millions of dollars to keep a show going you're going to start tossing creatively bankrupt shit at the wall too
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>>217145464
Because that's what they wanted to do from the start. A series of anthologies. They never wanted to stick with the same characters for 5 seasons.
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>>217145417
>the fat kid said the thing!
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>>217145189
There was meant to be >>217145421 they presumably just ran out of time to do CGI to make November release deadline. Yes they are retards.
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>>217145443
>can literally read minds
>stick gets he's right behind me isn't he'd
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>>217145421
He only had 3 dogs and 3 gorgs
All the bats died in s4. Every single one. Despite the hive connection not being severed in any way. Will killed the gorgs with his gaypowers. Karen girlbossed the dogs to death (you just know)
There is the explination that preseves the most of the mindflayer's intelligence
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>>217145503
You're a faggot
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>>217145421
He forgor
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most kissable 12 yo award
burned the coal award
cucked the fat white kid award
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i wanna fuck derek
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>>217145684
Holly...
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>>217145641
>most kissable
idk, for me it's still Violet
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>>217144885
Why? He's married to Holly and inherits a massively successful real estate business.
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>literally less than a week after the end
>this is what the threads have devolved into
I don't think even GoT fell this hard and fast.
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>>217145564
Beyond based
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>>217145762
Holly's wardrobe is kino
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Holly is 1 year away from being legal in France.
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>>217145850
saaaar bloddy focking saar
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>>217144951
Internet comments aren't canon. If they were Anon's comment would be just as valid.
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>saaaar bloddy focking saar
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>>217145957
>Internet comments aren't canon. If they were Anon's comment would be just as valid.
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>>217145957
it IS canon though. timmycels are coping.
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>>217144885
KEK
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>>217145980
uh oh jeetcel manlet having another melty
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>>217145957
Stop giving it yous. That fucking 'tard has been spamming, literally nonstop, since Christmas. Has to be a fucking bot.
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>>217145056
Oh buh, all of these photos are staged. I've worked on sets before doing this "Behind the Scenes/Stills" work before and they literally give you a checklist of stuff to get like: "everyone looking sad and hugging" "everyone joking around and laughing" "everyone doing a TikTok dance trend" all of it is staged by their marketing/publicity teams.

All these photos, the vids of them crying, the TikTok dance with MBB and Nell Fisher? All fake. They do it just so they can post them on sites like here, Reddit, and whatever so people can go: "OMG how dod you get this? They're just like me! CUTE! I love them! Aww!"
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>>217145080
My first thought when they went to get Nancy's guns in season 4 (which seemed dumb in the first place) and they find out the Upside Down was "stuck" on the day Will disappeared. Completely breaks the whole of season one and is immediately contradicted five seconds later when they plug in Holly's LiteBrite and start talking to Dustin through it.
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>>217146076
>ban evading just to seethe more
pathetic timmycel
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>>217146165
holly will just look at him and say "ewww, you're not my type" because he's white
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>>217146165
cope.
>look! this one picture of a weird white guy
ok now google “indian man” LMFAO keep crying jeet manlet
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>>217145421
budget
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>>217145117
I wouldn't be surprised. Given the age of the actress, it seems prime to do a timeskip and have her be a high schooler in 1996. Granted, given they say not du more an a in same charakter, mebe not du zat
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>>217146155
I always thought it was more that date was when it was created. The idea that it was out of time sync never made sense.
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>>217144826
How often do you get to see cute feet on this show? This will determine how likely I am to watch it.
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>>217146096
Timmy here has been having a melty since Holly revealed she had a crush on Josh. Definitely not a bot , just spamming because he is very upset.
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>>217145237
Would be based if they had already filmed it but she'll be bogged by the time they ever get around to it (2032)
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>>217146276
>feet
a handful of times

>cute feet
not once
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>>217146096
Not a bot, obviously. Is this your first time encountering a mentally ill troll on 4chan? They can do this kind of thing for literal years. From dawn to dusk. And people never stop giving them (You)'s instead of simply just ignoring them. That's partly what keeps them going.
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>>217146310
>
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ding dong diddily
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>>217146343
These would be cool 20 years ago.
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>>217146155
>>217146259
The upside down being a frozen snapshot in time could have been a kino concept if fleshed out properly. Part of watching Stranger Things for me was figuring out what the upside down was. The fact they revealed it was just a random passage area in a wormhole and replaced it with a desert biome is nonsensical and completely trivializes it.
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>>217146223
>character has a White boyfriend in real life
>post picture of an on set photo with a different actor whose name she doesnt remember
>SAAARRR SHE'S A MUDSHARK YOU ARE SEETHING
your mind is broken beyond repair and the only actual solution is suicide
Sad
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>>217145299
It's almost impossible to understand the level of spoiled, petulant child that the average jewish nepo baby is. Imagine a group of 15-17 year old boys making obnoxious jokes with each other in high school or the like. That's the sum total of their maturity and life experience. They are stupid, think they know it all, and have a borderline resentment for the idea that they have to put effort into or take something seriously and the people who expect that of them. All they truly want to do is go to parties and have people act like they're the coolest kid in town because of who they are and spend endless money on bull crap they don't even need and these shows are a conduit for amassing the reputation and funds they desire.
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>>217146334
>Im ban evading and seething
>but YOU are seething though
timmy
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>>217144951
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>>217145464
They think it will be fresh and also cement them as immortal creative geniuses and make them billionaires. I doubt we'll get more than two of the spinoffs
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>>217146416
saar u bloddy fokking saar
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>>217146380
>completely trivializes it.
Along with changing it from a totally hostile environment filled with monsters, cold and toxic atmosphere to just being a safer version of Detroit at night.
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>>217146034
Explain
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>>217146343
Just realised the collapse in value all that merch they shifted for the last season will have gone through after that shit 2nd and 3rd half
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>>217146477
Unmesh thinks a joke made in the show somehow outweighs what was actually depicted on screen. He probably thinks Robin isn't really gay because she said she wanted dick.
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>>217146381
>my favourite actress is dating someone!! that'll show you!!
???
What did the sad anon mean by this?
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>>217146497
It's WWE merchandise anyway so it'll only sell out in 2XL and bigger
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>>217146477
Watch the show zoom zoom
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>>217146477
she canonically has crush on Josh. not a joke. the timmy is just trying to cope with it ever since lol.
she's following the path of Sadie Sink. her irl boyfriend (if it's actually her bf) wont last long
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>>217146509
>it was just a joke haha q
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Timmys hate him because they aint him!
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You'll notice how he never once denies he's a pajeet.
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>>217146578
>she canonically has crush on Josh.
She doesn't though, she immediately denied it. If she did she'd have just told her friend to shut up.
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>>217146617
You'll notice this thread is doing a very good job of making a case for 4chan having flags and thread IDs on every board
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>>217146617
>nobody ever mentions india
>timmy:
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Sarah connor sucked balls in this season
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>>217146617
>You'll notice how he never once denies he's a pajeet.
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>>217144927
Both Josh and Derek are the only boys at Holly’s D and D in basement.
3 girls, two boys…nice
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This thread isn't even about stranger things anymore. Completely derailed by the SHITTED spammer. Where the fuck are janitors and mods on this board?
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>>217145093
She’s gave him the shoulder bump because she hooked him up with two of her best friends that evening in her basement for kissing time, while she’s with Josh.
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Just start pruning these fucking threads already man
Holy shit
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>>217146638
As if that stops trolls on /pol/.
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>>217146626
she herself said she has a crush on Josh. there wasn't any denial. are you a timmy?
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>>217145850
To be fair, both Derek and Josh were with these chicks in the basement at the end before Mike closed the door to let them….have privacy
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>>217146605
The Chad Josh
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>>217146715
no she didn't retard, they both immediately deny it
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>>217146718
>Timmy knows hes lost so hes trying to make it sound like they both won
Kek you know Derek was just sitting helplessly in the corner watching
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>>217146718
Only Derek was her date for Mike's graduation.
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>>217146677
>>217146681
>>217146693
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>>217146746
are you so desperate you're making things up now?
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>>217146255
> Take popular character from popular show
> Remove what people like from both
They actually might do that
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>>217146752
>date
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>>217146752
There's no use in reasoning with him dude
Stop giving him free (You)s
If he stops getting attention he will leave
You know what to do with these posts man
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>>217144826
Nobody is gonna watch this shit. Hey remember that lame eight minute coming out scene that everybody hated and made fun of? Now we're gonna talk about how great and powerful it was to film it for a half an hour.
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>>217146310
Yes, I am a standard White male.
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I still like parts of it but man is Season 4 unkind to rewatching. I apologize to everyone that said season 3 was better than season 4: you were correct.

1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 5
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>>217146749
he's both white and obese. I doubt he can even see his pee pee anymore. he can only WATCH.
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>>217146578
But she didn't say that. She only ever talks about Derek, went on a death defying adventure with him in which he saved her life, and now spends one on one quality time with him.

Lol you're still mad about the finding out about her and the Alwyn boy
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>>217146833
No problem, anon. Seeing a lot of people coming around.
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>>217146821
>Yes, I am a standard White male.
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>>217146693
You can hide post IDs with extensions
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>>217146677
Does it matter anymore? Theres nothing left to talk about anyway.
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>>217146903
Yes, I am a blond National Socialist. I'm also married to a White woman.
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>>217146915
The idea is it outs shills and trolls from talking to themselves. They still do it.
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>>217146881
>went on a death defying adventure
and friendzoned him lol
>picrel
you know it's her beard
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>>217146881
This is just sad Timmy
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>>217146881
>she didn't say that
I can see you're crying from here holy shit
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ok we definitely have a fat timmy here unironically.
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>show is about bitchless nerds in the 80s
>they finally get some bitches halfway through
>they aren't constantly trying to kiss and fondle and grope them
I get you can't show them having sex but turning the boys into little eunuchs for the sake of keeping it PG 13 pulls me out of the show. I can deal with plot holes and convenient or even lazy writing, I can deal with botched character arcs, I can deal with Vekna being retconned so late, it's fine it's supposdd to be a popcorn show but having these desperate nerds not show even a bit of lust towards their way out of their league girlfriends is so stupid and immersion shattering. Ideally they would be hinting at the fact they already had sex or at least tried to, but I can make do with very passionate kisses, running their hands up their shirt, dry humping Idk something ANYTHING. It's too unrealistic. Maybe if all the boys was a faggot that would have been woke enough for netflix to be unable to resist cramming in?
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>>217147021
>fatboy orbiter friendzoned by stacy
many such cases
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>>217147062
>they aren't constantly trying to kiss and fondle and grope them
That was S3, no?
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>>217146833
I'm only halfway through season five but so far I'd say:
1 > 3 > 2 > 5 > 4

Four was much worse on a rewatch once you know what's going to happen. Seasons 1-3 were still entertaining and engaging despite knowing what was going to happen but with 4 it all just turns into a pointless slog. The entirety of it was really the mystery of Vecna and the suspense of the lynchmob and and Russia scenes but they all lost their luster. The California and road trip scenes were just a slog that were originally carried solely by Argyle's humor but it's both stale on a rewatch and knowing he won't be returning takes some of the wind out of his sails. It would've been better if they were all in Hawkins and you got to see more of Eddie and the cast having to hide from the mob. I also think Will should've been the one to have a mentorship friendship thing with Eddie since season three was all about him wanting to play D&D and everyone else being too busy with other things to do it. It would've made sense that Will would seek out a new friend who does awesome campaigns and nice to see that rope everyone back together and would've added a layer of poignancy to Eddie's death because he knows that its not only going to split the party (again) but that he's losing a friend that actually wanted to spend time with him and that the Upside Down has taken yet another thing away from him.
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>>217145299
>Like are these two genuinely brain dead or something and just stare at a wall all day? How can you have literally ZERO imagination?

Probably fear after the GOT ending. Not a great ending, uninspired, but doesn't shit the bed completely
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>>217147102
No lol, they are just holding hands all the time like they are preschool kids and not hormone fueled 15 year olds. You don't even see them sneaking a look at the girls tits or asses. Do they even have a penis?????
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>>217146953
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>>217146995
That's not Holly
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Imagine watching 5 seasons of this shit just to see every new waifu constantly getting blacked. Couldnt be me.
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>>217147065
The actors even hangout IRL she did an interview where she said her and Derek's actor went to dinner together
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3>1>2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>4>>finale>>>>> rest of s5
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>>217144951
snowbunny queens... we won!
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>>217147185
Did I imagine it, or wasn't there a whole storyline about Hopper being pissed Mike won't stop macking on El?
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>>217147217
>friendzoned irl too
Grim
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>Hey Derek, thanks for saving my life.
>Can you let me go now? I have a date with Josh tonight, but we can hang out later.
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>>217147153
I like Vecna as a villain in season 4, even if it's an enormous conspicuous retcon. I'm not sure why they thought he would be compelling enough to keep around for season 5 though, especially with how anticlimactic that plot turned out to be. Season 5 makes a lot of season 4 worse.
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>saving my life
So we're just ignoring that happened after she ran back to save his.
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>>217147259
No the other anon is wrong and you're right. Season 3 Mike got banned from Hopper's cabin because they spent everyday of the summer kissing and didn't bang only because Hopper was keeping a close eye on them. max and Lucas are shown being less affectionate but the conflict that season was about Mike, Lucas, and Dustin all having girlfriends and not being interested in DnD leaving Will as the only party member still wanting to play.
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>>217147331
He might have worked if the lore they sculpted around him made sense. Instead they made him less powerful for some reason.

But much of the problem really comes down to retconning him as the central figure to the whole thing, on top of muh wormhole.
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>>217147267
Cope
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To me I thought the Mindflayer took back all of the demo gorgons, dogs, and bats in retreat since Vecna was exposed and vulnerable and almost died in the upside down, not to mention the military showing up. Then most of the creatures were used to make a physical mind flayer just like in season 3.
They even ask, "where are all the demogorgons?" then after steve and Jonathon talk the next scene is they see the giant vecna lair.

As advantageous as having a spread out hive mind is, when they start getting hurt, it hurts everyone and everything. Mindflayer needed extra kids and full concentration to merge the worlds together.
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>>217147712
>They even ask, "where are all the demogorgons?"
That was just lampshading because the duffers were well aware their story made no sense, like them joking about breathing in the UD.
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>>217147331
He would've been better as just some random demon from the Upside Down. When I thought he was that but somehow was smart and could talk to us like a person I thought he was epic and terrifying. The second he turned out to be some faggy weird looking dude I lost all my hype.

The reason he has powers is stupid, too. "I didn't want to get a job so I made up my own rules!" seriously? He just dreaded the idea of wageslaving so much he developed psychic powers? It was also dumb how he was like: "Humans are much more crude than spiders they just feed, mate, die, and repeat" as if thats not what spiders and all animals do? Humans actually have lives outside of that.

Just showed that whatever intern they had actually writing everything finally got sick of having his ideas stolen with no credit and left.
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>>217147712
I was under the impression the hive mind was more because they were all under the Mind Flayer's control. Either way it's always been inconsistent: if they were all a hive mind how was Dustin able to train Dart? He should've just been another Mind Flayer pawn, and if he wasn't that means they can go about on their own, too.
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Good evening Stranger Things friends!

Join us on >>>/pw/ at the top of the hour for a Stranger Things themed episode of Monday Night Raw. Be sure to stop by and say hi in the Gamethreads!
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Have the duffies explained why, throughout 5 seasons, not one character decided to take a photo of the upside down? Bet they realize how silly they are that they missed that opportunity.
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>>217147782
>breathing in the UD.
they mentioned it wasn't good for you but never said it would kill you instantly. that seemed to be a bit of retcon though.
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>>217147897
nobody in the group is a photographer as far as the Duffers know so how would they
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>>217147879
>I was under the impression the hive mind was more because they were all under the Mind Flayer's control
yeah this is what I meant.
that is somewhat inconsistent but I imagine it can't 100% control everything all the time
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If they kept the dangerous spores, they'd all have to suit up in a hazmat suit every scene which would add 2 years to the film time.
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>>217147897
that's Johnathan's thing but again, they're lazy and stupid and greedy and forgot that he's a both a hobbyist and professional photographer. They also forgot that Johnathan is Joyce's song, they don't interact at all during season 5, even when they're sharing scenes.
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>>217147999
>song
son
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>>217147999
Actually believable to me. Even in S1 she was always about Will and never seemed to give a shit about John.
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>>217148127
Season one, Johnathan and Joyce had some of the best scenes together. Johnathan has no purpose outside of chasing Nancy around apparently.
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>>217147999
>This job is way too dangerous for my son Will
>Jonathan you do it
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>>217148358
And those scenes consisted of him supporting her about Will, finding Will, her blaming him for working when he was supposed to be wiping Will's ass.
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>son dies
>returns under mysterious circumstances
>boyfriend dies
>returns under mysterious circumstances
Why isn't Joyce investigated by the FBI?
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>>217148468
Because the government already know whats going on and don't want to investigate their own illegal conspiracy
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>>217148468
The government knows about them already and made them sign NDAs when they "resurrected" Will. Hopper was also pretty much living off the grid with Eleven.
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>>217147973
Jonathan is that was his entire character for three seasons before they turned him into a stoner
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>>217148586
Jonathan was just a pervert with access to a camera
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>>217144826
one last adventure? but it was 5 adventures
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>>217147341
You call that kissing? lmao thats SMOOCHING. AT BEST. I know you guys are all cucky wucky little zoomies that have to court hoes to get laid but back in the 80s it was as easy as its ever been as long as you werent an ugly freak. One time I shit you not I was already grabbing a nice pair of tits after a 10 minute conversation at the mall. Then they would talk to their friends about you and you could just run them through and it didn't matter if they were 14 or whatever. Shit was cash.
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>>217146953
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>>217148631
The actor was asked to act? Poor thing :(
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>>217148616
That's your average photographer, anon.
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>>217148616
funny they let the horny communist slasher maker film graduation when you think about it
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>>217148631
Yeah, it looks like she really hated it.
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>>217148724
>2017
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No one would have thought this was cool. Everyone would have hated this and made fun of this loser.
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>>217148668
If you watch Beyond Stranger Things you'll see that they sprung it on her last second then started openly masturbating while watching and calling it a mitzvah
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>>217148724
Wow, that's the most uncomfortable kiss I've ever seen. She leans away from him the whole time and then it only lasts a second of the most scrunched up and stressful facial expression possible. She just really hate the idea of it.
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>>217148859
>be 14yo sadie sink
>first big acting gig
>have to choose between a nog and whatever dustin is
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>>217148889
>never touched a woman
everyone naturally leans away when you pull them in by the hips anon
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>this scene no longer makes sense because the upside down is actually frozen in the first day after season 1
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>>217149005
Says who? All they say in S4 is it's a snapshot of that day, not that it was locked there.
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>>217148840
Nah, him having a handful of friends to start the wave of cheering is plenty enough for it to be believable. Graduations are stuffy as fuck and someone rebelling would definitely go well if the principal is disliked by the students.
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>>217149005
>>217149034
It isn't "frozen"
That was a stupid word to use
It was created on that day, so everything was copied over exactly as it was on that day. If somebody built a new house the year after it was created, that house wouldn't also he built in the UD because no one would have been there to build it
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>>217149100
So how does it not make sense then? Because Will would have no way of knowing where to touch to light the bulbs?
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>>217149131
It doesn't make sense. It never did.
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>>217147365
>Instead they made him less powerful for some reason.
I get that they wanted to make Will useful so I won't fault them for the sorcerer thing, but Will and Eleven combined was borderline bullying. Dimension X made for a very boring final battle, too. They should have been hurling cars at each other or something.
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>>217149131
>>217149152
I didnt say it makes sense
You can kinda headcanon it yourself by using the method they did in s4
Hooking up a powerful energy source can create a sparkly dust area or whatever that you touch in the UD. So in theory will would have seen those on the walls. BUT this doesn't really make sense as individual lightbulbs are probably not enough to create that, especially when spaced out. You can also headcanon that joyce told him what he was doing because he could hear whispers from the UD of the RU but not the other way around. Thats why joyce was talking outloud but he had to answer through the lights. Still, it is something of a plothole, but compared to everything else, it's a fairly minor nitpick
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>>217149100
Are you an idiot? Who would build the Christmas light and word display in the upside down then?
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>>217148955
I'm married. My wife presses up against me because we're in love.
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>>217149239
Dimension X should NEVER have existed
EL should have sent henry to the upsidedown, which should have been a dark mirror of the real world but only the nature parts of it. When the gate opened, it should have been that the man made structures that are there were created, inexplicably, by the mindflayer in his attempt to understand what was happening as he was now able to "see" into the rightside up. You don't need to create an entire new piss demension to justify one part of your previous demension that didnt make that much sense. Making the MF an actual alien from a different planet (who cares) is gay and makes him stupid. It's not strange. It's things.
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>>217149239
They could have made him useful without being overpowered, especially given how the wrote the origin of the powers. Vecna should be the purest form short of the MF, then El, Will and Kali with their watered-down powers combined might make a formidable opponent for him.

Instead, for whatever reason (the power of gayness and friendship) they are all more powerful individually. It deflates the story all on its own, especially considering El already solo'd him in S4.
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You know that being of unimaginable cosmic horror that we created? What if in the end we just turned it into a big mindless CGI monster that can be damaged by flare guns and makeshift melee weapons? Wouldn't that be cool?
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>>217149034
The show in season four when they go to Nancy's house to get her guns and they're not there and she says her diary entries are all missing after the day Will disappeared so the Upside Down is frozen on that day
>>217149100
That's what frozen means Anon. It's both stuck on that day and also very cold
>>217149267
Even that doesn't make sense because he wouldn't have known where the letters were or what she was doing. He would've just saw a bunch of weird dust on the wall and had no reason to think it was safe to touch
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>>217149269
Anon, if the upside down was constantly updating then there would be things floating around and cars driving by themselves
You fucking dumbass
(You) moving your dragon XXXL dildo from your display case to the air vent because your family did their yearly inspection of your basement would have happened too. As well as you moving it back when they left with a sigh of dissapointment, resignation, and anger.
>who did THIS then?
Plot hole
Fuck you
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>>217149321
It should just have been unexplained and have there be some but not all of the houses
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>>217149302
I'm 100% sure if you pulled her in without warning she'll naturally lean back, especially because she doesn't want to bump heads with you anon. And if you are taller than she is she wants to look at your face. All of the women I've dated have been plenty in love and horny for me but still leaned away whenever I grabbed them like that, it's just a natural reaction.
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>>217149371
Did you read the second half?
She could have directly told him
>honey, I'm putting up lights with letters on the wall so you can spell things out to me okay?
>I
>M
>A
>F
>A
>G
>G
>O
>T
>what does that mean? I don't know what that means!
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>>217149371
It means it's a snapshot of that day, not that it's locked in time there.
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>>217149409
It usually results in a hug/cuddle thing then we touch foreheads and start making out
>>217149422
He would've have been able to spell things as fast as he did especially when he wore run he's coming when the Demogorgon was on route to attack her because he would've had to count through all the lights to figure out which letters were where
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>>217144826
He's definitely looking for a bottom ride.
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>>217149465
But the parts where they move around our world in season 1 and will reacts to it don't make sense because it isnt. Ding updated in real time. All the Christmas light stuff falls apart
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>>217149465
I'm not saying they travel through time just that nothing in the outside down exists from after the moment El openee the gate. That's why Nancy's guns were missing and she had all those clothes and stuffed animals she had given away in the real world still there. Which means it would've been impossible to do the Christmas lights communication
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>>217145156
how old is loli holly
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Derek's unironically the best character in season 5
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>>217149478
>Will's future is moving to become a gay twink in Milwaukee
He is currently chained up in Jay's basement
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>>217149527
Was supposed to be 7 but retconned to 9-10 in season 5.
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>>217149614
and how old is the actress?
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>>217149620
12 when the show was filmed, turned 14 in november
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>>217149636
do 14 year olds really already date broccoliheads and have filthy degenerate sex
jesus
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>>217149617
This was apparently a moment they added in because the way derek's actor (jake) was following around finn on set like a lost puppy reminded them of how finn behaved with joe kerry in the early seasons
It's like pottery
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>>217149524
I agree. But I think it didn't really work even before the retcon in S4.
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>>217149653
No. That picture is AI generated. There was a trend on tiktok of people generating her as their girlfiend. Also a trend on twitter asking grok to undress her.
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>>217149670
Just waving to his future brother in law.
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>>217146380
should have used mushroom biome
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>>217149670
That was a different actor who played one of the Holly's classmates.
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>>217149688
I wonder how old the people are doing that shit.
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>>217148778
>>217148631
this was the prime woke era where touching women was treated like how the taliban use sharia law, that original complaint didn't mean much
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>>217147897
>hey look at these grainy dark photos of upside down hawkins! look at the park!
>dude that's just the park at night...
>no but it's upside down park!
>yeah...ok dude...
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The exposition got really fucking annoying, you could really feel that they weren't willing to let any retard not understand what's going on.
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>>217149688
>asking grok to undress her.
Did grok do it?
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>>217150342
>Did grok do it?
Have a seat over here
>>217139560
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Did I miss something? What the fuck happened to Ted? I don't think I saw a single scene with him after he got yeeted.
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How did she become the de facto leader when Hopper's not around?
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>>217150490
Because she's strong, powerful, and capable. The only member of the group who can be trusted with a gun when facing off against interdimensional demons.
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>>217150490
stronk wamin
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>>217150446
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>>217149527
In the show? 7.
The actress at the time? 12.
The actress now? 14.
>>217149593
He's actually trolling around in Dahmer's town at the time he was actively kidnapping and murdering gay twinks to turn them into zombies.
>>217149614
They don't actually mention her age in the season so I'm sticking with she's seven until the Duffer's are forced to make an awkward statement about it.
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>>217149653
She's a nepo baby. I met one of the daughters of the guy that made Rocky and the Karate Kid and she told me all about how she used to go to raves in L.A. in basically her underwear when she was 14 and doing cocaine and ecstasy all night.
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>>217150147
The blue sky and red lightning might do it.
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>>217150490
No one in the castvhas any testosterone except for Hopper and Nancy is a bit of a busybody. I cringed so hard when Jonathan was trying to berate Steve for dragging him and Dustin into the Upside Down (a toxic warzone and hellscape) without even a warning and Nancy jumps in to go: "Actually, it's my say so because we're looking for MY sister!"

She needed a hard spanking all the way back in season three when she was intent on getting them fired from the paper for feminism's sake.
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>>217150802
Her classmates are said to be 9-10. The plot doesn't really work with them being 7. Children that young are barely cognizant and speak like little retards.
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>>217150421
Very funny
It's ok, most AI bikini pics are mediocre.
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>>217150908
>She needed a hard spanking
I think she needs to do a Hookup Hotshot scene with me
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>>217150825
Your anecdote is meaningless. Nepo babies make the best actors. Poorfag self-made actors always have a chip on their shoulder. They are addicted to attention and fame, and get easily corrupted by their newfound wealth and status. Nepo babies already grow wealthy and happy with no needs in life, so for them acting is just something they do for fun and socialisation. Plus most of them, at least the ones outside of degenerate states of muttmerica, are raised properly and with great care to be well adjusted members of upper class society. They don't behave like gutter trash and conduct themselves properly.
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Sadie bros how we feeling?
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>>217151196
Hair looks nice. Too bad she's a MUDSHARK
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>>217151196
Old and tired.
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>>217150908
>No one in the castvhas any testosterone except for Hopper

Ted should beat your fat ass for this
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>>217151576
Whatever he felt back in Chicago.
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>>217151576
>just dethroned taylor swift as #1 on the spotify global charts
feeling pretty damn good
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>>217151463
Ted the mayor or Ted the Dad?
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>>217126741
/stg/, is that a weird looking DP-28 on steve's back
t. has not watched a single second of s5
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>>217150908
>No one in the castvhas any testosterone except for Hopper
And his role was solely to be the overbearing father figure to Eleven who eventually learns to let go of his little girl because she's so strong and powerful and independent she can fend for herself.
The entire show is just girlpower despite it starting from a little boys DnD group. Because women.
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>>217150446
Because he was an obstacle to the BRAVE HEROIC MOTHER YAAAAS QUEEN!!!!!!!
They had to offscreen yeet his ass then laud momma Wheeler as the strongest most fierce momma bear because, again, women.
Dads = incompetent cuck losers women should have never even gotten with in the first place.
Moms = brave, powerful, fierce, independent, and smart prizes that every man should be honored to be in the same room as
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>>217151196
I want to cum on her armpits
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>>217151182
Oh wow they actually paid a shill to run defense for them LMAO

> Nepo babies make the best actors. Poorfag self-made actors always have a chip on their shoulder.

This has never been true. The best actors came from nothing and brought real life experience into their performances that made them feel real.
> Clark Gable
> James Stewart
> Gary Cooper
> Ray Milland
> Rory Calhoun
> Ginger Rogers
> Claudette Colbert
> Barbara Stanwyck
> Ingrid Bergman
> Alec Guinness

Even ones that technically had a "noble line" like Christopher Lloyd were only "respectable in name" but grew up poor.

Versus, what? Margaret Qualley? Johnny Depp's daughter? Will Smith's "son"?
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>>217152025
>Alec Guinness
>The identity of Guinness's father has never been officially confirmed.[5] Agnes Cuff had worked at Cowes on the Isle of Wight as a barmaid at the Royal Yacht Squadron clubhouse at the time of the Cowes Regatta in 1913, which was attended by several members of the Guinness family including Edward Guinness, 1st Earl of Iveagh, and his sons Ernest and Walter. Members of the Guinness family claimed a "distinct resemblance" between Alec and one or other of the Guinnesses at Cowes that year; Honor Guinness, who made Alec's acquaintance in 1950 and invited him to tea with "his cousin", later visiting Alec's family with photo albums and diaries to point out the similarities she perceived, believed either her uncle Ernest or his brother Walter ("a celebrated seducer") was Alec's father, while her cousin Lindy considered Alec closely resembled her father, Loel.[6]
Not even looking up the rest, el stupido.
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>>217152059
>Guinness himself believed that his father was a Scottish banker, Andrew Geddes (1861–1928), who paid for Guinness's boarding-school education at Pembroke Lodge, in Southbourne, and Roborough, in Eastbourne. Geddes—who with a "round face and sticking-out ears" bore a resemblance to Guinness and believed himself to be his father[7]—occasionally visited Guinness and his mother, posing as an uncle.[8]
Dude's mom was such a whore that he had like 10 rich noble fathers who all financed him and nepo babied him.
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>>217150953
Ah, I do remember that. Well, maybe Holly skipped a couple grades. I could maybe, MAYBE look the other way if the last ttime they mentioned it was in Season One but in the last episode of Season Four they have Nancy explicitly say: "We have a SIX YEAR OLD in the house. Of course I know where my guns are."

You can't have your cake and eat it, too. They haven't earned me looking the other way for shotty writing.
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I'm starting to think that Humbert fella was on to something.
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>>217152059
LMAO you looked up the last one on list which means you furiously looked through all of them until you landed on him and clung to the fact he thinks his Dad was a rich guy even though he was raised by his single Mom who was a waitress.
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>>217152137
Well, yeah. There's a reason that's the age of consent for everywhere else in the world except the USA
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>>217145509
>they presumably just ran out of time to do CGI to make November release deadline.
They had 3+ years and 400 million and they "ran out of time" to film their epic finale but had 12 hours to kill for the 5 minute coming out scene?
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>>217150861
It's an old camera in the 80s. if someone showed them a weird picture of their town, do you think a Hawkins citizen would think it's a photo with some effects they don't understand, or that it really is another dimension?
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>>217145421
They were gooped and turned into the physical mind flayer body
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>>217152137
She was twelve and standing four feet ten in one sock too. What a dangerous combination.
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>drove a bloody pizza van through a military blockade and all the way back across the country
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>>217152262
I think they just didn't have the budget this time around after Netflix let them spend 2 billion last season and presumably did not recoup their losses which is why the episodes are shorter this season and Vecna spends most of the season in his human form instead of his regular form like last season and they had to cheap out on the final battle.
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>>217152312
That is real? Photo manipulation wasn't widely understood by the public back then and if you had a photo like pic related of the dilapidated Hawkins with a navy blue sky filled with red lightning, weird pollen in the air and bat stingray creatures flying around in the background everyone would believe it
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>>217152312
>>217152744
Forgot photo
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sadie just revealed on the tonight show that she thinks eleven is dead

troons on suicide watch
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>>217152744
>>217152761
>Photo manipulation wasn't widely understood by the public back then
so you'd think they'd believe it was another dimension?
You'd be better off with a blurry picture of a demogorgon than getting someone to believe a dark photo is another world
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>>217152137
Nell's hair is amazing
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>>217151576
>#1 show in the world
>#1 album in the world

Future EGOT?
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>>217152932
It wouldn't be that dark.
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Raw is Stranger Things was fantastic!
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>>217153236
ok you convinced me
>>217153241
Vecna would waste CM Punk
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>>217144826
>yiddish niggers unironically forcing a girl to kiss some subhuman
>only decide to start filming it when they realize shes disgusted
>goycattle find out their racebait slop romance is built on the disgust of a child and hebrew mental illness
>browncels gloat like this is a huge win, while coping with reality in private
every day i thank god i wasnt born a smelly brown subhuman or a kike with severe psychosexual trauma probably induced from having a rabbi give you head as an infant
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>>217144826
never watched any of this has a girlfriend years ago when it was first starting, she told me several times I should watch it, that I'd like it I never did. probably should have watched it with her, wonder if she is still watching it.
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>>217153372
timmy hands typed this
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>>217145237
haven't seen the series, which character are you talking about
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Just realized another plot hole. Dustin finds Dr. Brenner's notebook which has all the details about the wall, the Upside Down, and the Abyss in it. This makes no sense as the Upside Down was created when Will opened the gate the day Will was kidnapped meaning Brenner wouldn't have had any time to research the Upside Down, let alone make a detailed notebook about it and even if he did there wouldn't be a copy of it in the Upside Down because it would've had to have already existed when El made the Upside Down which is impossible because it's his notes about studying it afterwards.
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>>217151576
>arguably the only cast member whose character didn't get enshittified
>has a career outside of the show
>#1 song in the world rn like >>217151683 said
Could not be better
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>>217153689
I believe White hands did type that post, yes.
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>I believe White hands did type that post, yes.
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>>217153735
Eleven opened it and that has been the case since S1.
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>>217153735
Apparently Dr. Brenner knew about the Abyss because his father was accidentally sent there in some expirment and gave him information about it. All of this bullshit isn't mentioned at all in the show because the Duffers are idiots putting it in some play and Netflix is retarded for spending half a billion dollars on this season, but somehow didn't have time to include this information in the show despite season four having multiple movie length episodes.
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>>217154033
He seems like an alright dude
>>217154090
Yeah but Brenner wouldn't have a notebook about it there since he would've had to make it before it exist
>>217154173
I'm not accepting any information that was not in the show especially since the play isn't even available unless you lived in New York City during a small window of time
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>>217144951
Jesus fucking Christ
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I didn't realize there were so many retards that actually believed Mike's story. Eleven is dead and Mike came up with that story as literal cope.
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>>217148253
Lucifer? Nah vecna is just Leviathans bitch, Gen 3.13 "The serpent deceived me, and I ate." mf is just the abyssal leviathan envious of the world of men and seek it's destruction
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>>217148724
strategically placed skateboard
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O.K. objective ranking of the show:

Season 1 > Season 3 > Season 2 > Season 5 Vol. 1 > Season 4 > Season 5 Vol 2

Season 1 remains the GOAT. It has the most sincerity, sticks to the aesthetic the most faithfully, and the characters have the most depth and actually sound plausible in addition to being the most grounded season and feeling like it actually takes place in a small town in the Midwest and it plays into a lot of tried and true tropes (born hot yesterday love interest, I've got a girl in my room, disheveled sheriff with a dark past, sinister government laboratory, wholesome ragtag kids, etc) A big part of this is probably because they stole most of it from the guy doing the Montauk Project. 9/10
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What are the odds of episode 9? All the evidence looks insane.
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>>217154595
Season 3 despite being hated here is a high point for me: it's a course correction from Season 2's meandering, the aesthetic and costumes are top tier, we actually get the cast mostly together all season and some teenaged hormones as well as Dustin and Steve being at their high point for their dynamic duo, and the mall is honestly a fun setting. We also get more Billy and a really sinister villain that hinted at heights and payoff that sadly never came. Erica and Robin while annoying signs of problems to come were mostly fun additions that could've been forgiven had they been one off one season wonders and future seasons returned to focusing on the main cast. Hopper and Joyce had a fun sidequest even if ultimately the Russian plotline ended up being a misstep and despite Murray being retroactively insufferable due to his Zionist actor it was fun watching he and Alexei become friends this season. Hopper beating up the mayor and being an angey Dad was fun as well. Only downsides are Will's very sidelined with an annoying subplot this season (that really doesn't make sense considering they all join Hellfire next season), Nancy was a bit insufferable this season, the writers began torpedoing her and Jonathan's relationship, there was no reason to send the Byers plus El to California, and Robin unexpectedly being a giant dyke for no reason at all. Also Hopper should've either stayed dead or at the very least they should've let us believe he was between seasons because spoiling that at the end took a lot of wind out of the season's sails. 8/10
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>>217154604
Season 2. Where to begin? A weird and out of place beginning segues into a fun arcade scene and a first episode that might update us on all the characters but ultimately feels rather blah. The season had some highlights (introducing Max and Billy, Dart, Dustin and Steve's newfound friendship, Dustin and Nancy's dance, Eleven finding her Mother) but ultimately a lot of the season jaut meanders and the episodes don't really stand up on their own on an episode to episode comparison. There's never a big wow moment for this season outside of the tease of the Mind Flayer at the very end and when it first possesses Will. It did set up a lot of potential that never paid off, and I was sad to see Bob go but other than that there were a lot of problems. The season feels like it's always waiting to start because we're waiting for El to reunite with the cast, We start getting girl boss problems, Will gets sidelined with nothing to do, the Demo dogs feel like a massive downgrade from the Demogorgon who is sorely missed this season, the forced blackening of the new girl, and the Nancy live triangle doesn't make any sense and just wastes screen time that could've better been used on other things, triply so for the obnoxious sister episode. 6/10.

Season 5 Vol 1. While very stupid is at least slightly more entertaining than Season 4. We get a lot of dumb moments but thankfully the plot holes don't really kick in until the next half. Biggest downside is seeing 8 return.
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>>217154609
Season 4. What even happened. The episodes are too long, Vecna's backstory and retcons are stupid. We don't get enough of the lynchmob subplot and we don't see El integrates into tbe Byers family. Eddie while an alright new character is ultimately needless and wouldve better served as a plot for Will. The plotnisntoo global and takes us completely out of the small town vibe, Jonathan and Will are sidelined all season and once again El is separated from the whole cast for the whole season. Ultimately it's a longer and messier version of Season 2 thankfully without the sister nonsense.

Season 5 Vol 2 just complete garbage.

>>217154597
Most likely 0%
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Enjoyer of the show and brainless consumer. My ratings are 1>3>2>5>4. Also I'm a schizo so I believe in something happening on jan 7th. I don't think its tied to the spin-off or 1985 I think it will be something directly related to the main series. Would be dope if it was an actual episode but I think it'll be something smaller basically saying its not over.
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>>217154597
100%. You're gonna get 8 new episodes though. Derek playing Ghouls and Ghosts is the give away a runback has to happen. I also think Kali has been working with Henry this entire time. She faked her death and snuck in with the group to switch Will and Vecna to make Joyce cut her own son's head off.
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>unironically being invested in this slop
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>S4 vecna needs souls to open rifts so he can get mf into the real world.
>S5 Vecna gets his power from a rock and to find the mf
Lmao it is literally Yu-Gi-Oh. Orichalcos Stone and the great beast Leviathan.
>Dartz gets corrupted by Orichalcos Stone gets super powers
>Believes the world is evil and need usher in an new age with the great beast
>The great beast needs souls to resurect/reenter the material world.
https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Dartz
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>>217148724
Both the mike 11 and max lucas kisses were awkward as fuck and horrible to watch.
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>>217154644
Pretty based
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What gets me is there was zero reason that Vecna needed to do it in the anniversary of him kidnapping Will.
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People have different priorities when it comes to enjoying a story.

Some people are not inclined to analyze the internal consistency of a fictional world and will only notice the most glaring inconsistency. What's glaring to you may not be glaring to others.

The cognitive task of piecing together "if X happened in S1, how could Y happen in S4?" is work that you don't have to do. If your brain naturally picks up on those things, or you enjoy analyzing sci-fi for inconsistency, ok. You do you.

But, not doing that work and not caring much when other people point out inconsistencies is a perfectly valid way to consume a show.

It is not "making excuses for bad writing" if someone doesn't place a high value on the thing that you value most in story-telling.

I keep seeing that comment over and over on this sub. I'm sure that if any of the people who keep posting that comment read this, they will still think that Stranger Things fans make excuses for bad writing. But what is your goal in saying that? To get the entire fanbase to change their mind about the show and start "admitting" that it's bad? Does that seem likely? No. Because people enjoy the show. Genuinely. Plot holes and all.
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Bros all the evidence that suggests an episode 9 final ending is kind of insane.
>all the gray stuff indicating an incorrect memory
>everyone with their hands in their laps like henry
>vickie missing from the ending
>karens scars missing
>no number at the end like all the other finales
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>mindflayer was the true mastermind after all
Told you
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Do you believe?
https://novembersixthnineteeneightyseven.com/
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>>217155179
If you don't care when you make the show why should anyone care about watching it?
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>randomly change the card and add "NEW EPISODE"
yup episode 9 bros we won
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new
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>>217155496
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>>217153241
What the actual fuck?



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