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Which thread, Ciderbros?
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Poor Maekar, wife's dead, one son's a drunk, another a schizo, the third an incel and the fourth half peasant.
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>>217818872
>incel
Aemon's vocel.
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>>217818762
CALLING IN ALL ANONS ITT! I need all lurking GOT Lore experts to weigh in on a very serious matter

Me and my brother are in the middle of rather heated argument right now about who is the most attractive girl in all of Game of Thrones Lore. He is saying Talisa Stark (pic related on the left) is by far the cutest girl in the entire GOT franchise. And I keep trying to explain to that moron that Lady Gwin Ashford (pic related, on the right) is 110% the GOAT GOT girl. I'm not saying Talisa Stark is ugly or anything, but obviously she's not even half as sexy as Gwin Ashford! Can /tv/ please settle this debate so me and my bro can stop screaming at each other? He's the one being the retarded queerlord here, not me, right? In what fucking warped timeline is Talisa Stark prettier than Gwin Ashwood? The Opposite Realm?

Our arguing is starting to spook my Dogs. So I want 4chan to explain the GOT Lore to us, we'll defer to anon's judgement. If you guys can't manage to do that I'll be forced to invite his dorky half-autistic son over to settle this argument and I'd prefer avoiding embarrassing him in front of his kid yet again if possible
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Is this new stuff worth watching?
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>>217814755
s-source? and who?
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>>217819182
Yeah actually, it's also really short.
You should stop watching the other stuff though, even gurm tried to disavow it as much as his contract permits it.
>>217819227
Carice Van Houten, Melisandre's actress from GoT, don't know the movie though.
She has some leaks from when she was pregnant
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>>217819283
I remember her vines with her bear
They were great
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>>217819227
It's the red woman.
The Happy Housewife (2010)
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>>217819182
Knight of the Seven is about twice as good as the original 2011 Game of Thrones TV show ever was (Except maybe S2E9 "Blackwater" and S4E9 "Watchers of the Wall" since those 2 outliers outshine every other episode in their series substantially imo)

The original 2011 Game of Thrones is about five times as good as House of the Dragon. Which is to say Knight of the Seven is approximately ten times as kino as House of the Dragon! So yes it is worth watching, as shocking as that might sound!

>>217819283
>even gurm tried to disavow it as much as his contract permits it
Incredibly based if true. Sources?
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The other thread is all HBO AI bots kek
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I never understood the obsession GRRM had with jousts. You'd think melees would be the main event of a tournament, not jousts
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>>217819581
It's a trial, Marie
Seven Gods
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>>217819483
He nagged a bit on his blog and deleted it afterwards, idk if there's an archive up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC5nHEWn0jY
He reads it here, I think there was another post as well.
He also got in a verbal disagreement with the showrunner in a zoom call and said
>this is not my story any longer
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/george-r-r-martin-house-of-the-dragon-problems-1235991254/
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/george-rr-martin-interview-thrones-winds-dragon-knight-1236473519/
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I wanna see Tanselle's ass
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>>217819581
And archery competitions, which was mentioned once in the first book or two then never brought up again. I think the fixation on jousting is just because it's what people associate most with medieval times. Knights, horses, banners, armour, etc. It's an easy way to set the tone of the story.
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>>217819581
i think the last episode made them look fucking awesome. all of it seems cool but seeing two armored dudes on big ass horses charging at each other at full speed with giant wooden swords that explode on impact sounds extremely entertaining.
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Is that the hot midge redhead girlboss from the books? I read those a years ago and will not watch the show so I can't remember her name.
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>>217818762
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>>217819581
Agreed. There's something romantic about swords and fighting on foot.
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>HotD future season
>A large white haired man is seen standing before a crackling fire, he echoes the words of Robert Baratheon of the main series "They will say I did this right"
>Before him is his son, Daemon Blackfyre, he is being legitimised as the rightful heir to the throne.
>"...and yours is the song of Ice and Fire, Daemon. With Blackfyre in hand, no-one can contest your claim."
Will be KINO and explain why the quasi-Targs lost the prophecy.
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So Dunk kills Egg right?
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>>217821383
dunk: dun fookin lauf raymun
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Alright, all you lil' book-reading nerds out there, tell me why this prostitute whore got featured twice near the end of the episode.
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>>217821383
>When i was little
How old is Egg supposed to be? He looks 10 or 11 max. Did his brother tried to mutilate a 6 year old wtf?
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>>217821014
tfw ywn have sweaty sex with got cosplay girl
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>>217818762
Post more ginger slags
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>>217821453
she pretended to be 15 you SICK FUCK
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They’re Incestuous aliens dunk’n
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>>217821422
Well she's not in the books.
But she felt sympathy for Dun during their initial interactions with him trying to get Dondarrion to vouch for Arlen so I suppose it's meant to be the smallfolk feeling sympathy for his plight
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>>217819158
It's obviously Dany.
She has massive, heaving tracts of land for my sons to inherit.
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>>217821525
Emilia Clarke is like 5’2 your sons will also be manlets
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>>217821383
I bet aerion was just reenacting what the septons had already done to him
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>>217819158
Bad Pussy
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>>217821430
an early intervention is the best intervention when it comes to gender affirming care.

There is absolutely no downside to putting a six year old on puberty blockers, so it would be appropriate to do the same with the Westerosi equivalent.
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KISSES

KISSES FROM DUNK
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>>217819158
the best looking woman in the books is young Cersei, and apparently its not even close
Ashara Dayne is supposedly very beautiful too before her suicide

but for me, its melisandre (blah blah magic necklace blah blah)
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>>217821593
Weigh this sword-shallower down with rocks and throw him in the Mander.
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>>217821596
that bitch was a ho
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>ARE THERE NO TRUE KNIGHTS AMONG YOU?
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>>217821606
It's book!Sansa.
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>Look through imdb
>Wait I recognize that head shot
Mad knight is every kino role in Souls games
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>>217821675
She fucked one (1) man. Who, it is entirely possible given that Baelor didn't starve himself to death after Aegon whelped any of his other gigabazillion bastard, was also her lawfully wedded husband.
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>>217821736
>Her hair was not the orange or strawberry color of common red-haired men, but a deep burnished copper that shone in the light of the torches. Even her eyes were red ... but her skin was smooth and white, unblemished, pale as cream. Slender she was, graceful, taller than most knights, with full breasts and narrow waist and a heart-shaped face. Men's eyes that once found her did not quickly look away, not even a maester's eyes. Many called her beautiful. She was not beautiful. She was red, and terrible, and red.
>into seriously kinky shit too
Absolutely not
Melisandre mogs
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>>217819158
Well, all the Targshits MUST be removed from play because they are ugly inbred freaks and because the boys and girls look alike, they must be necessarily androgynous. For someone who is AT THE LEAST a tad gay, like George, this might be fine but for a hot-blooded, strong-willed, heterosexual man it's not. Honestly? It's probably Hugor the Hill's unnamed wife. The gods themselves made her to be the most stunning and beautiful creature in the world, and she was blonde and blue-eyed and perfect from the get-go. Either her or Young Cersei.
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blackfyre fucking shits
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This image is 14 years old
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>>217821777
fuck, better pic
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>>217821777
Fvck, trips of trvth.
I kneel.
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>>217819158
Pfft. Everyone knows that the best girl is Patricia Redwyne.
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>>217819097
long may we feel his sting
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>>217819158
Everyone knows Frey has the best chicks.
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>>217821818
Walder probably had a girl for every lord's possible preference.
I bet if I was heir to something, and I asked Walder for a Frey with stunning eyes and perfect tits, he'd have one.
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Val is so beautiful and sexy that Lords are throwing themselves at her for marriage despite her being basically a lowborn / commoner. Ser Paddy even gets killed trying to kidnap her because he is lusting after her so bad.
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How nightmare fuel will the head wound be
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>>217821410
Isn't one of the leading theories that a Blackfyre is going to win it all at the end of ASOIAF
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Bees
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This show is being pretty explicit with gore, I hope they don't hold back on the scene of Baelor's brains falling out.
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>>217821838
What in the seven hells is this?
Did Walder Frey invited you to his private island on the green fork or something?
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red goths are the best kind of goths
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Why do I love Darkstar so much? It's pretty simple when I think about it. Darkstar isn't just the best character in the series, he might just be the greatest character of all time. Just imaging him riding through the sands of Dorne, the wind in his hair, his mighty steed below him. As he rides through the red mountains, the ladies swoon at his very scent. They know how he smells, the essence of his smell is sold in Planky Town under the the name of "Greenblood Orgasm." The very nature of Darkstar is mystery. could he be playing a deeper game than even his creator realizes? The answer is yes, he has transcended such boundaries as the written world, and has free will to do whatever he sees fit. However, Darkstar is filled with such guile, such arcane craft that he does not even use these powers. Why, you might ask? You will never know, for the mind of the Darkstar is not one that is easily penetrated. Darkstar is such a force of nature in his realm that nothing can truly touch him, the only thing keeping him bound to the page at all is his will to exist within the preordained boundaries of his world. Darkstar is not only beyond the comprehension of us, he exists within a plane of true focus and beauty. Observe his playful smile, his gorgeous and rippling biceps, his gallant nose, and most importantly, his eyes. His eyes, like pools of saffron, provide the only glimpse into the true machinations of Darkstar. Do not stare into them. Many good men have gone mad in the attempt. Darkstar is not just a character, a formless collection of words and images, he is himself is the binding that holds the saga together. Without Darkstar, the entire series, the entire world of Westeros as we know it crumbles. The Trident would stop flowing without Darkstar, the Reach would become a desolate crater, and the Wall would melt without his frosty gaze.
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>>217821874
No.
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>>217821853
Isn't that as they think that they'd be able to use her to command a portion of Mance's host?
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>>217821895
Based Darkstarer.
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>>217821890
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>>217821895
Based and nightpilled.
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>>217821410
Is this the worst most retarded headcanon by Blackfyrefags yet?
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>>217821410
This but only if Aegon IV is played by George and he speaks in a nasal gnome voice for the entire duration.
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>>217821838
Me: Only the heaviest of your noble maidens will do.
Walder: For her weight in dowry, right?
Me:
Walder: For her weight in dowry, right? :o

>>217819158
Tell your brother that Talisa wins in another franchise.
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>>217821853
Val's obsession with murdering Stannis' daughter is the cherry on top.
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>>217821675
True. There was a superior sister
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>>217821901
This is just a theory
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Gwin Ashford
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>>217821874
its a theory but hardly a leading one. griff might hold the iron throne for a certain point of time seeing as how theres a massive power vaccum in kings landing atm which would give varys the perfect opportunity to put him on the throne, but its hard to see a world where Griff would survive through Cersei with Robert Strong and Qyburn scheming in the back after Strong probably wins the trial by combat as well as whenever Dany decides to return with her dragons, not mention if Stannis manages to survive long enough to come back for round 2
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>>217822122
I have a new OC. Gwen Ashcreek. Please do not steal.
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>>217822089
>I'm going to pop out bastards like it's going out of fashion
Hate this bitch. Quite possibly a worse mother than Cersei.
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Gwin Ashford's champions
>Lyonel Baratheon
>Leo Tyrell
>Tybolt Lannister
>Humfrey Hardyng
>Prince Valarr Targaryen

Sansa's suitors
>Joffrey Baratheon
>Willas Tyrell
>Tyrion Lannister (married)
>Harrold Hardyng (betrothed as Alayne)

Sansa will get entangled in some sort of betrothal plot with Aegon in The Winds of Winter
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>>217822136
I fully believe Griff will depose Cersei and either kill or exile the Lannisters from King's Landing. After that he'll have to deal with Dany, though
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>>217822186
MUTED AHHHHHHHH
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>>217821383
>a quintilion kids in bongland
>the fucking pedos had to hire the one with the most weird head they could
Goddamn look at this. Poor little sod, bless his soul.
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>>217822089
>marries a Manwoody
>has no children by him

weird
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for me, it's Gwin Ashford
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>Aerion already has 2 unmarried/not betrothed sisters
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>>217822244
Checked, but is that really the best picture you have?
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>>217822186
Hedge Knights don't even knight you anymore they just look at you like this
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>still test Duncan
>understand by looking at his face that he is not a knight and don't know how to do it
>don't say a word
>knight Raymun
Based Barabro
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>>217818762
>>217819097
>>217822186
Why does it look like a dirty bomb has gone off?
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>>217822186
>graetest knight of the realm
>not actually a knight
pottery
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>>217822266
They do more than that. But hbo couldn't show Arlan "knighting" Dunk with his cock on tv.
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>>217822306
this guy is a kino machine
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>>217822310
ASOIAF is actually a sequel to Threads.
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>>217822136
Randall Tarly and a bunch of Reach lords will switch sides to Aegon. Aegon will win a big victory against Mace who will probably die. The Lannisters will flee to Casterly Rock. Stannis is not leaving the North before he dies.
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>>217821777
>She was red, and terrible, and red.
Fucking kek this is the level of his prose?
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>>217822306
yeah Lyonel knows he's not a knight, he also knows that Aerion was in the right in this moment, Duncan had no right or obligation to defend the innocent, he knows he's on the wrong side but still goes through with it

why are baratheons so kino
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>>217821748
very cool
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>>217822339
Intentionally being retarded is not funny
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>>217822186
>knighting ceremony cut off after 3 gods mentioned AGAIN

Fucking WHY

I want to hear what the Maiden, Smith, Crone, and Stranger knightly oaths are.
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>>217822245
I think it was his idea of a joke
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>>217822377
>I want to hear what the Maiden, Smith, Crone, and Stranger knightly oaths are.
so doo bookfags lmao, this isn't the fault of the show but George, nobody knows how the rest goes
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>>217822136
>>217822327
the only reason Faegon is in the story is to motivate Dany to burn King's Landing. it'll go:

>they save the north from the others
>get south
>aegon has been declared king and all the folk of KL are celebrating
>Dany r disappoint, burn burn burn

all the crazy shit will happen while Euron and Cersei are in charge, Aegon shows up after with the dornish.

it's going to be just as lame as in the show.
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>>217822339
Robert has banged Cersei, Taena Merryweather and if Ned had told him the truth, he would've banged Margaery Tyrell
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Was it really that easy for Duncan to find knights willing to fight with him?
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>>217822245
The sisters were not born at that point, I have a faint recollection of Egg saying in whatever novella it comes up.
Or maybe I'm conflating it with Viserys chewing out Daenerys for being born too late.
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>>217822420
based
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>>217822424
The tards aren't that popular.
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>>217822405
>>217822377
just make up your own oaths, GRRM isn't going to
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>>217822339
Dunk acts more like a knight than anyone there, and Lyonel knows this.
It would be a bad look for a complete non-knight to outshine them like that

also he's a complete bro
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>sorry lad I forgot the words
>>217822244
she was looking so ethereal despite her sweet 16 having been turned into a battle to the death
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>>217822424
Well Egg found them for Dunc it's not surprising who turned up. They mostly turned up because they hated Aerion more than they knew or cared about Dunc.
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can I have all of your green apple fossoway funny images?
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>>217822424
power of networking
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>>217822424
yeah because of the plot
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Prime Bobby B merks literally all
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>>217822453
yeah, same reason Baelor stepped in, he needs the country to see at least one Targaryen stood for defending the smallfolk
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>>217822460
>despite her sweet 16 having been turned into a battle to the death
Dothrakipilled
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Your grace.. their archers.. the wildfire..
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>>217822424
everyone's motivation besides Beesbury has been setup
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>>217822413
that's probably very likely. GRRM's twist is to subvert the order.

Dany saves the land against the Others
Dany then destroys the King's Land toppling Aegon by going for the Red Keep but not knowing that the Red Keep is a trigger to blow the city up
Dany tries to self-justify herself because she can't bear the idea of murdering hundreds of thousands of people
Jon sees where Dany's thinking is taking her and kills her
No good candidates for the throne are left
Bran is elected via politics and maybe Bran manipulating things in his favor from behind the scenes
King Bran exiles Jon in the same way that King Aegon exiles Bloodraven
poetry, it rhymes
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I don't think Robert would have killed Joff, Tommen and Myrcella even with the truth.
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>>217822471
I can't tell the difference.
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>>217822424
the plot hole is that such a stupid tradition would exist in the first place: the whole point of deciding conflicts with a battle between champions IRL was to minimize bloodshed.

GRRM only cares about historical realism when its convenient to him.
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Hey guys, I love Game of Thrones! This is my OC, Bloodraven (not his real name but everyone calls him Bloodraven)
He's a cool albino with a sweet birthmark (in the form of a bloody raven, hence the name) and a missing eye that he never covers because he doesn't gaf >:)
He's a bastard child of a Targaryen king and a Blackwood meaning he's got both dragon magic AND old god magic in his veins!
He's got a cool sword called Dark Sister and he's an expert swordsman and archer. He's a master sorcerer and spymaster and he's the greatest Hand of the King in history, though he was helped by his hot sisterwife who was considered the most beautiful woman ever
How did he die? He didn't! He's actually alive in the present day series
Hope you like him!
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>>217822547
But what was their tax policy?
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>>217821748
Who is that?
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>>217821606
>but for me, its melisandre (blah blah magic necklace blah blah)
Not canon anyway.
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>Beesbury has a bright mustache and beard that look like the stripes on a bee
so stupid
so kino
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>>217822539
>Dany will burn the city by accident
Tremendous cope. Dany is the white saviour woman trope to a key. When she isn't worshipped instantly in Westeros by the smallfolx like she is in Mereen, she will flip
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>>217822542
Yes I'm sure the violently emotional alcoholic can be trusted.
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>>217822413
Aegon will be king before Dany comes back to Westeros and will probably deal with him before the Others
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>>217822579
incestuous alien
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>>217822528
He's Hardyng's brother in law he wasn't going to let him go into battle with broken legs without him(and also take all the honor), they should've said it though.
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So why didn't Ser Pennytree knight Dunk and instead shrug at him with that stupid look on his face?
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>>217822539
I doubt Bran is elected. Jon will probably reject the throne at the end and hand it over to his closest kin.
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I am not sure if it is the show has just peaked up more interest, the nature of episode four, or the different release day, but the general seems far more active these last several threads going through the backlinks.
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>>217822615
because that would ruin his story
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>>217822615
He didn't know the words (that's why he shrugged). He probably wasn't Knighted himself.
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>>217822619
we're so fucking back
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>>217821893
I like her, its a shame her religion is so underdeveloped (like every other religion in ASOIAF)
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>>217822542
Robert would've had them locked up for life. He wouldn't have killed them.

He would've executed Cersei, Jaime and probably would've ended up having to kill Tywin and maybe Tyrion or maybe send Tyrion to the Wall.

And then he would've ended up marrying Margaery Tyrell like Renly wanted.

Maybe if no heir is produced in time, he might legitimize Edric Storm but it's more likely he lets Stannis be his heir
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>>217822635
I like Edric Storm x Shireen
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>>217822553
>can't find the bloodraven coldsteel edit
Much that once was is lost.
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>>217822539
Jaime forgetting to tell anyone about the Mad King's wildfire caches is actually been a plot hole since his first POVs in SOS.

GRRM doesn't seem to have realized that if Dany isn't a literal tyrant then Jon murdering her won't be acceptable, but he failed to set her up correctly as a tyrant even if technically you can imagine a scenario where she could "go mad" and burn a city with or without the help of conveniently placed wildfire.

it was probably supposed to all make some kind of meta-point about the POV system: everyone thinks their actions are justified. shame that has nothing to do with the heroic fantasy with world-ending threats and larger-than-life villains he actually wrote.
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>>217822377
preston is gonna bring this up in his review I fucking know it
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>>217822543
look at the bottom of arlans panel
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>>217822635
The Reach x Storm, STAG X FIELD, combo is unbeatable in terms of fertility. Margarey would have been like a factory of mass production baby maker.
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>>217822635
I think he'd be excited to fight another war after 20 years of boredom
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>>217822616
GRRM seeded early that this story is going to end with an election. Also I don't think Jon will ever get the throne nor be acknowledged as Rhaegar's son in public so Bran being Jon's closest kin is meaningless

>"Robb will set aside his crown if you and your brother will do the same," she said, hoping it was true. She would make it true if she must; Robb would listen to her, even if his lords would not. "Let the three of you call for a Great Council, such as the realm has not seen for a hundred years. We will send to Winterfell, so Bran may tell his tale and all men may know the Lannisters for the true usurpers. Let the assembled lords of the Seven Kingdoms choose who shall rule them."
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>30 minute episodes
>still cut stuff from the books
nah
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>>217822494
He got Baelor on his side at this exact moment
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Haha I bet Maekar is gonna let out a big stinky farty when they pull off his brother's helm haha
*gloop*
*BRTHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRAP*
haha
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>Any knight can make a knight
If I were a knight I'd be making a ton of knights just for shits and giggles
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>>217821410
>Will be KINO and explain why the quasi-Targs lost the prophecy.
the Targs lost the prophecy because Viserys gave it to Rhaenyra and the whole kingdom did a sexism against her and killed Jace and then killed her before she could tell her other sons
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>>217822720
unworthypilled
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>cast is perfect
>show is still dull as fuck because they spread the story out over too much time

it's going to make for a good fanedit but until then holy shit this is painful.
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>>217822676
Yeah of other men's kids
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ARE THERE NO TRUE KNIGHTS AMONG YOU
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>>217822738
oh quit your bitching
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>>217822688
>GRRM seeded early that this story is going to end with an election
You can say that
>GRRM seeded early that this story is going to end with [EVENT]
and post a quote from the book for any fucking thing that happens in the book, you dumb cunt.
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>>217822720
Perkin the flea and his gutter knights pilled
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>>217822688
>GRRM seeded early that this story is going to end

welp :D
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>>217822744
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>>217822676
Imagine Marge having to bend over for some 6 foot 6 fat Baratheon man with an outrageously high sex drive

At least Joffrey and Tommen were going to probably be good looking for a decade or two even if Joffrey is a pyscho
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>>217822688
The same scene can be written, presented, and set up in completely different ways
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>>217822698
Why do you present these two lines of greentext as if they're statements in opposition? They're short 30m episodes, of course they're cutting shit from the books. Why would you put a 'still' in there as if the shorter they are, the less they should cut? Are you retarded? Do you have a mental deficiency?
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>>217822676
Big Marge has deadened her womb with Tansy, and the moon boy's seed too for all I know.
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Why does this series seem so much GAYER than GoT and HOTD? Seriously, the way they frame the shots, the queer looks they all give each other. Am I crazy?
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>>217822720
yeah its not how it worked in real life.

>>217822750
its unbelievably frustrating.
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>>217822744
i'll stand for the Dunc
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>>217822797
it's gayer but less trooncoded which is actually a relief
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>>217822547
The show makes it clear that Trial by Seven is both linked to religious dogma and extremely rare. Neither Dunk nor Maekar even know what a Trial by Seven is. Aerion pulling the Trial by Seven card is something that is not the norm; it is something people in the culture view as archaic bullshit Aerion can only play because he is a prince and Dunk is a who? hedge knight, with Aerion betting on Dunk not being able to find 7 champions and hence be found guilty by default.
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>>217822797
not enough is happening, so you are imagining the characters having sex to keep your mind occupied.
same reason for all the Frodo Sam gay shipping in LOTR.
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>>217822720
You'd run into the same problem Dunk has
who would believe them?
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>>217822688
That’s a good catch
>Also I don't think Jon will ever get the throne nor be acknowledged as Rhaegar's son in public
Why?
Jon wants to be a Stark. It will probably be immensely alienating to him after winning the North that he’s suddenly a Targaryen prince. He would rather exile himself to the only place where he ever felt at home than rule as one. That’s my thinking anyways
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Can you imagine how hype it'd be to see your king in waiting take up Dunks side? Total hype moment. Must have been for the plebians like when Drumpf worked a shift at McDonalds
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>>217822797
>the queer looks they all give each other
Yes, it must seem gay to someone incapable of understanding the pure nature of brotherhood and true friendship.
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>>217822785
>needs me to hold this hand through the "erm the episodes are very short because they're adapting the first novella" logic
>asks the other person if they have a mental deficiency
kek caught another retarded zoomer
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>>217822669
It's gonna be a meta point about perspectives. Us being in Dany's head will clue us in that she's not mad she just made a mistake that she hasn't come to grips with and might make her look erratic because she has to grapple with what she accidentally did
But from Jon's POV, she'll probably seem insane
I don't think GRRM cares about acceptable or not.
I mean he had Coldhands feed Bran people already. Bran is a cannibal
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>>217822824
>the show makes it clear that GRRM wanted to write a big fight, needed an excuse, and just ignored rigid social structures of medieval society to do it despite repeatedly claiming that's what he cares about

don't under any circumstances attempt to defend his writing again.
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>>217822807
He was actually the best chance the Targs had at having a stable rule leading into the main series
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>>217822021
>>217822030
I recently learned about this guy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_(Ottoman_sultan)
> as well as overweight women, whom he craved.
>Other anecdotes related to his harem are Ibrahim's supposed passion for obese women, which would have led Şivekar, called "the fattest woman at Constantinople", to become his favorite
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9Eivekar_Sultan
>Şivekar Sultan was morbidly obese. In 1646, Ibrahim appointed his servants to look for the "fattest woman" in Constantinople. Upon this order, they started to search for palace officials and eventually found an Armenian woman in Üsküdar. Maria became his consort and he gave her the name Şivekar, meaning "flirty".
it made me think of the memes in your posts and of the Brosnan architect meme
funny to see so many memes and kinks have actual true events at their source
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>>217822852
>someone incapable of understanding the pure nature of brotherhood and true friendship.
I can't argue there.
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its so peak
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>>217822807
he was an honortard so he probably would
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>>217822852
except for D&E, its amazing how undeveloped the character relationships feel despite the ridiculous amount of screentime this show has taken up.

if I didn't know any better I'd think that none of them were going to fucking matter because aside from D&E the cast is going to completely change each season.
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My anons, I know none of you remember /got/ of /tv/, but I was his generalfag. We gave (You)s to many of you. Reposted your memes. Bumped your threads. It was a good general. And he taught me how to be an anon. Not just offtopic discussion and waifuposting, but effort posting. An anon checks the digits, and that's all I did. I am not a /got/ oldfag, but I have followed /got/'s example, as newfags will follow yours. Who will join the discussion and post with me?
>shitposts
Has soul abandoned the based anons of /tv/!? I will not believe it so! Are there no true anons amongst you!?
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>>217822886
him or Baelor
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>>217822744
I WILL STAND SO I CAN KILL TARGS
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>>217822872
>I don't think GRRM cares about acceptable or not.
he thought it was going to work, but in the process of trying to write it he's realized it won't.
hence no books 4 U
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>>217822886
he would have been the plaything of the nobility, this is why so many of them supported him, Bloodraven alludes to it in the Mystery Knight, he says something like "many lords like their king being knightly and dumb"
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>>217822904
We don’t know that. By Redgrass he could’ve just realised he’d made a terrible mistake and tried to overcompensate with Corbray.
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>>217822925
Ser Duncan the Tall, for he is of the knight
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>>217822843
I think you'll probably get some of that in. Jon needs to be punished for queenslaying but Bran also knows that Jon wants to fuck off so he's exiled to the Night's Watch or Beyond the Wall.

And then Jon just leaves to go live with the wildlings and have back-breaking sex with Val and Bran doesn'y enforce any punishment on Jon for desertion
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>>217822807
dunc slaughtered his son when he tried to fight egg lmao
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>>217822897
>You have not chosen one another, but I have chosen you for one another. Those who cannot conceive Friendship as a substantive love but only as a disguise or elaboration of Eros betray the fact that they have never had a Friend.
>CS Lewis
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>>217822938
>We don’t know that.
by all acounts, eustace glaze aside, he was an honorable knight who did try and help corbray which was really stupid
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>>217822886
No??? Only literally whos supported him? There would’ve been a gigantic civil war if he took King’s Landing as all the lesser Lords go after their lieges
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>>217822720
>these knights start to do shit thanks to their new title
>some of them get arrested
>who made a retard like you a knight?
>I-It's >>217822720
>anon get arrested and lose his title
Really fucking smart.
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How many of you have actually read the books? Because I shitpost about them constantly and I gave up halfway through book 1
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>>217822953
in this hypothetical im guessing this would be if he never rebelled or daeron never tried to arrest him, also Dunc had every right to kill Daemon III
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>>217822720
It is for that reason I cannot believe in thousands of years no knight, whether for a laugh, whilst drunk, due to simping, whatever, never made a woman a knight before Jamie made Brienne one.
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>>217822979
I'm a show watcher and wiki reader, I'll read the books when Winds is released
so never
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>>217822958
you have no idea how much this quote infuriates fujos and queer activists
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>>217822775
>Imagine Marge having to bend over for some 6 foot 6 fat Baratheon man with an outrageously high sex drive
hot
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>>217822929
possibly. I'm sure there's lot of things in his planned ending on his way there won't work anymore.

Like it sounds like he planned to kill Sansa but he might back off on it after all

I don't even know if he has the time and pages to make a planned Dany/Jon romance work
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>>217822720
>If I were a knight I'd be making a ton of knights just for shits and giggles
it will be side plot of a season 3
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>>217822979
the wiki is all you need unironically, imagine reading a dead book series that will never have an ending
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>>217822720
>>217822989
IRL being a knight meant a guaranteed income and land bequeathed you by a Lord, hence the concept of a Ronin doesn't exist in Western Europe folklore.

GRRM knows that if he fakes historical authenticity he can shove romantic stuff in as well: the point of his "tax policy" attack on Tolkien was always branding, to make his work seem grittier than it actually is.
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Is the story this stupid? Like Dunk suddenly is able to talk with lords this easily and have a chit chat easily?
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>>217823038
this nigger got like two dozen dads
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>>217822979
I listened to the audiobooks at work
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>>217823036
what is this, 2018? he's not going to fucking finish the books you stupid retard. shut the fuck up.
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>>217823069
>If they search the seven hells, mayhaps
Simon Vance is so kino
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>>217823056
Dunk when for a strength, charisma, and luck stats build.
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>>217819158
>talisa
>supposedly the daughter of a Volantis triarch
>Volantis nobility literally requires proof of 100% valyrian ancestry going back centuries
>she's brown and ugly
lmao, she should look like Dany. Aerys tried to get Rhaegar a wife from Volantis and all the nobility rejected him because the Targs have been so muttified. D&D are fucking hacks who can't even butcher the books properly

>>217821410
>>217822723
>muh prophecy must be fulfilled or the world will end
>don't chisel it in stone and spread the word across Westeros to entrench Targ rule
Aegon's prophecy is the single dumbest thing in the series if GRRM actually signed off on it. How can this dude bitch about Tolkien if he goes this route?

>>217822487
true, he's underrated if anything. He killed or defeated the enemy commander in every battle he ever fought
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so the hand of the king is a good guy so i guess that means he will die
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>>217822979
i read them all except a game of thrones, yes even world of ice and fire, fire and blood, and dunk and egg novelas
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>>217822928
>didn't do a solo game with that kino battle system
Ubisoft was so fucking retarded
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>>217823111
this shit looks gay as fuck
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>>217823050
Not really. Lots of youngers sons were knights without lands or guaranteed incomes. They had to go become household knights

There were military orders of knights without personal property
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>>217823111
lore accurate dunc in his prime
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>>217822979
>>217823069
same here. audiobooks for both ASOIAF and dunk and egg go pretty hard, highly recommend
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>>217823036
GRRM saying he was planning to kill off Sansa basically confirms Rickon will survive. Because if he has the option to keep Sansa alive, then that means Arya’s endgame is not to become Lady of Winterfell. So unless Rickon chills on Skagos until the end of the story, either Jon will not rule Winterfell, or he was essentially usurp his supposed brother via Robb’s will.
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>>217823069
I bet George was laughing his ass off thinking about if he should write about them putting sunfyre's turds inside her crypt kek
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>>217822339
>why are baratheons so kino
they are descended from a madlad who literally challenged the gods so he could fuck their daughter. And managed to pull it off with a Stark by his side. Not even the taint of targshit blood could reduce their kino output
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>>217823050
>GRRM knows that if he fakes historical authenticity he can shove romantic stuff in as well: the point of his "tax policy" attack on Tolkien was always branding, to make his work seem grittier than it actually is.
That’s not what he meant by tax policy, he was critiquing Tolkien’s idea that Aragorn will necessarily be a good king because he has the right bloodline and is a swell guy.
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>>217823186
you can't expect a terminally online sub80 iq retard to understand that.
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>>217823111
>highlander with a warden skin
what the fuck
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>>217823126
it was pure kino while everyone was new
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>>217823077
He won't finish the book because he realized readers won't accept his misanthrophic cynical worldview, but he can milk their anticipation as a grift for the rest of his life before dying the Unworthy death.

GRRM at 40: I'll write a fantasy where the villians are great and many, and the few heroes suck.
GRRM at 50: Another rejection in Hollywood, so how about the heroes instead will actually fail, but the tree hivemind will use a king as proxy.
GRRM at 60: Finally, Hollywood recognizes my genius, I need to focus on the adaptation.
GRRM at 70: Oh shit there is a MAGA backlash to the TV show, I better hold off on the ending and wait out the zeitgeist.
GRRM at 80: Why do these producers keep lying to me about adapting the text, then not return my calls?
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i've noticed that Lannister and Stark never seem to be that relevant in past wars/events
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>>217822563
Ser Eyepatch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXI5dajS16M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-g74nHVx2I
From outsources voice work to a third party in the UK so they get theatre and tv actors.
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>>217823262
>he realized readers won't accept his misanthrophic cynical worldview
I think it's far far far shallower than that
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Her children are....
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Question to loreanons
Is Duncan just like, the actual chosen one of asoiaf?
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everything makes sense when you realise grrm is a failed hollywood writer
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>>217823155
I 100% agree with you. I think that's why Rickon even exists and he's the anti-Robb in the sense that he sets you up to think Robb will live to avenge his father but dies while Rickon does nothing and survives
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I wonder if it's really shit to be a writer or other creative on an adaptation of someone else's work? You can't be creative, and if you do you get criticised. What's the point in that...
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>>217823262
GRRM is not misanthropic. GRRM is not cynical. Your brain is rotted from retarded “video essays” on Tolkien vs GRRM, who incidentally aren’t even talking about Tolkien vs GRRM but Jackson vs D&D.
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>>217823286
Strong boys.
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>>217821422
She's not in the books. The writers of GoT shows have an unhealthy obsession with prostitutes.
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>dumb 10 pm instead of 9 pm start time
There was nothing /tv/ related as hype as those Sundays in 2012 during seasons 1-4
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>>217823262
>maga backlash to the tv show
It was feminist leftists that were mad because dany turned out evil
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>>217823186
he did it because of branding.
not because he didn't understand what Tolkien was doing.

he knew in advance he wanted to edgify fantasy but he didn't want to take out the romance and ahistorical behavior like Arya being able to interact with commoners however she liked.

the solution was to pretend to be more interested in realism than he actually was. hence the Tolkien quote.
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>>217823290
No
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>>217823290
There are no chosen ones in Asoiaf that’s what elevates it above generic fantasy
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>>217823290
No, he's just a great knight (eventually)
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>>217823336
The tax policy thing is literally a random comment he made during a random interview
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>>217821419
They marry each other
Master/Apprentice yaoi
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>>217823136
>they had to go get a guaranteed income from a lord, but I used different words

>There were military orders of knights without personal property
with lands owned by the order

>the Knights Templar owned vast amounts of land across Europe and the Middle East, becoming one of the largest landowners and the first "multinational corporation" before their downfall in 1312. They acquired extensive estates, farms, vineyards, and castles through donations, purchases, and, at one point, owned the entire island of Cyprus.
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>>217823262
looks like grrms body size cought up with his head size
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>>217823336
you sound mentally retarded, kek
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>>217823363
he knew exactly what he was fucking doing you disingenuous shill
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>>217822306
Im glad I'm not the only one who noticed he noticed. Too many normies still haven't realised he's not a knight!
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>>217823111
>ser Duncan on his way to break his oaths and impregnate his liege's married daughter
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>>217823262
I would say it is just he bit off more than he can chew. He never did anything like the scale of ASOIAF before in scale and his background is more in sci-fi. That the series spiralled from a trilogy to 7 planned books further highlights how he is out of his depth.
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I constantly dream of being a knight, traveling the countryside righting wrongs and protecting the innocent before settling down with the beautiful second daughter of a lord
And here I am posting on 4channel
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>>217823407
play skyrim or something you gay little retard
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>>217822925
Great grandpa Aerion.
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>he’s insane because…he’s religious
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>>217823155
well if you read his draft, the original plan was Jon and Arya hooking up to continue House Stark and for Sansa and Robb to die so only Bran is left but he's infertile but clearly that won't happen so I guess Rickon is gonna grow up to bang some Karstark
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>>217823433
>let me put some basket weave armor on my horse
yikes
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>>217822669
GRRM trying to redeem Jaime unironically destroyed the series by creating plot holes everywhere and turns many characters into certified retards
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>>217823382
You’re not making any sense. If he was doing it to build up a brand, he would’ve made way more comments about Tolkien critiquing him. He hasn’t. That’s why the tax policy quote is the only thing that’s ever brought up along with uncharitable and wrong interpretations of George’s worldview.
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>>217823444
House stark will be functionally extinct by the end. The series ends with the death of the houses of ice and fire
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>>217823407
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>>217822989
I am waiting for one of the shows set before GOT to have it there is some lady knight. Imagine the cross the board seething at both a female knight being a thing and that Brienne got cuckqueaned out of being the first.
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>>217823444
He just said there would be a Jon and Arya romance, not that they would continue the line.
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>>217822547

The Scottish clans had a tradition of settling their feuds through trials by mass combat with equal number of men on each side.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_North_Inch
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>>217823433
And talks in the third person and thinks his god possesses him
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>>217823262
>>217823309
>his misanthrophic cynical worldview

he's not cynical or he wouldn't want to end the story with an election. that's comically idealistic. but he's also not idealistic because he thinks he has to have the characters all kill each other off to make a point about POVs.

that's the basic problem: he doesn't know what he wanted to say at all. which means he can't say anything.
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>>217823433
he's insane because he literally believes his body is a vessel of the warrior
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>>217823407
If you live in a White country you can just go out an accost various ethnics and tell them to stop raping.
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>>217823468
GRRM considers the Ice to be the Others and the Fire to be the Dragons
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>>217823482
Why is this fat fuck so obsessed with incest?
>>217823469
ser donk and yote
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>>217823484
They weren't fucking around were they.
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>>217823444
>I guess Rickon is gonna grow up to bang some Karstark
that would require him finishing the books, which won't happen.
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>>217823509
damn, dude.
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>>217823186
>Aragorn trained by a leader with 3000 years of experience to learn how to rule
>spends decades helping to run Gondor under an alias
>ruled his own people for decades before taking over Gondor
GRRM is a fucking clown, Aragorn's background makes it clear he's not just a good guy who knows how to fight
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>>217823509
Can you imagine? One of your friends pisses off some guy and next thing you know your whole friend group is dead
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>>217823490
>but he's also not idealistic because he thinks he has to have the characters all kill each other off to make a point about POVs.
That’s also false. The Red Wedding, for instance, serves the purpose of showing Ned ruled the right way in contrast to Tywin. All his vassals are unyieldingly loyal to him and even after his son took them on a disastrous war, they’re still plotting to restore the Starks and save “Ned’s girl”. Because Ned was honourable and a decent man.
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>>217823482
Sure but if Sansa, Sansa's son and Robb are dead while Bran is sterile and Rickon doesn't exist, what would be the story point of Jon and Arya's romance to bare mentioning in the draft?

Would also explain why GRRM decided to make them both look like Starks
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>>217823506
Inbreeding was the noblility's main hobby
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>>217823509
the 29th guy on the losing side was like "no bro we can still do this- ACK"
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>>217822547
Ahem
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_of_the_Thirty
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>>217823509
>>217823484
doesn't seem like a situation where avoiding bloodshed was the priority.
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>>217823524
Yeah it’s not like history is littered with instances of well educated princes who are good fighters going on to become bad kings.
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>>217823535
>they’re still plotting to restore the Starks and save “Ned’s girl”. Because Ned was honourable and a decent man.
Something also to do with the fact that the Freys and the Boltons killed their kin.
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Considering Targ legitimacy comes in great part because Maegor won his Trial of Seven against the Faith Militant, you'd think AT LEAST the Targs would know about them, let alone the commoners.
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>>217823524
The real point that GRRM is making that he wanted to see Aragorn do these things. He wants to see Aragorn be good at ruling
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>>217823509
They sure are a contentious people.
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>>217823535
You reminded me of George trying to reapply this "Ned's girl" shit to Viserys, totally unearned.
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>>217823543
That’s a good point, are you sure Rickon didn’t exist in the original draft or was he just not mentioned? It was just a three page letter to the publisher no?
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>>217823535
>all his vassals are loyal to him except Bolton and Frey
>Ned unaware of the Boltons practicing Lord's right under his nose during his reign
>he's so heckin' noble that his kids end up scattered all over the place in constant danger

the time to claim that the books have coherent themes is after they're finished... but they won't be.
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>>217823407
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OYSTERS, CLAMS AND COCKLES
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>>217823407
You could do this in Europe, just hang around pubs until someone gets jumped.
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>>217821776
Was aegon that handsome before he got fat?
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>>217823633
Molly Mallone aah biih.
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>>217823595
no he didn't.
he wanted to sell his own series by claiming to be a fresh new take on fantasy.
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>>217823618
I’m not going to bother replying to you if you’re going to be intentionally obtuse like this
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>>217821782
>t. Dornish alien
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>>217823262
>sets out writing ASOIAF series to prove he's not a hack writer who can only write one off novels
>gets stuck for 25 years because he refuses to write an outline
reminder there hasn't been an actual book that moved the plot forward since Storm of Swords, the last 2 books released were supposed to be covered with a time skip

I also think Tolkien's son releasing the letters where Tolkien basically talks about starting to write what is essentially Game of Thrones, but deciding it wasn't worth his time mind broke GRRM and killed his motivation. He thought he was doing something groundbreaking, then it turns out Tolkien thought of it decades before him and determined it wasn't worth making
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>>217823649
Outrageously so.
Before his loose living caught up to him dude was basically a perfect fairy tale prince, but a sex addict.
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>>217823700
made early because of the links
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>>217823684
And what mindbroke you in your life, that you choose to spend it here on 4chan?
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i'm still not a fan of all the shidding and farting but newest episode was absolutely kino
>>217822899
they did a great job with casting dunk and egg
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>>217823649
Aegon the Unworthy was just the worst version of Robert Baratheon possible.

So yes.

GRRM said he wanted to write a story with Aegon the Unworthy as the MC. Just to see him write from the perspective of an awful person but half the story would have been him cucking his vassals and creampieing their wives and daughters as well as cucking his brother with their sister and bullying his only legitimate bookish son
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>>217823684
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
I wonder how much you could change Storm of Swords and have the series end satisfactorily there.
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>>217822887
Holy kek
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>>217823577
except Aragorn already has decades of successful leadership before he is even crowned, so there's nothing hypothetical.

>>217823595
>ned ruled the North for nearly 2 decades
>everybody loves him
>GRRM doesn't explain a single thing he did beyond sitting in Winterfell and executing people every once in awhile
what is Ned's tax policy?
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>>217823697
GIWTWM
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>>217823720
That would be to kino for this world
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>>217823509
This seems like a dumb way to resolve disputes
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>>217823500
>he literally believes his body is a vessel of the warrior
did he not know about Daemon Blackfyre
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>>217823406
This anon right here hit the nail on the head.

GRRM was a tv scifi writer of no exceptional merit until his autism over the historical War of the Roses meant he accidentally stumbled across the biggest thing in fantasy of his generation. Thing is, Martin isn't actually that guy. This becomes very obvious when you look at everything he ever wrote before asoiaf. People started calling him 'the American Tolkien' when he neither had the inclination or really, much of a desire to write much in the way of fantasy to begin with. This leads to a problem in that he was promoted to a position he never expected to reach, thus, all he can do is lose prestige, not build anymore. He is completely out of his depth writing asoiaf and can't bring himself to reign in his 6 gorillion PoV characters, plots, and subplots and I would be shocked if he himself even has everything he foreshadowed straight in his head today.

When you look at it like this, you realize the worst decision Martin could make would be to continue the books. If his legacy is that of someone who died before he finished, then his legacy is preserved. If someone like Brandon Sanderson steps in to finish the series later, the reception is irrelevant as any backlash can be written off since GRRM didn't write those books, or they'll be liked but not be perfect because 'they aren't George's vision.' George accidentally stumbled into a lasting literary legacy he never thought he'd ever achieve, ever. He has probably figured the worst thing he could do is risk pissing it away when he was never much of a fantasy writer to begin with and probably doesn't trust himself to finish it.
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>Kösem Sultan kept her son in check by supplying him with virgins that she personally purchased from the slave market, as well as overweight women, whom he craved.
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>>217823099
>true, he's underrated if anything. He killed or defeated the enemy commander in every battle he ever fought
didn't he lose and scurry against Tarly?
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>>217823723
cut others, cut dany, stannis dies at blackwater, red wedding is the climax and joff rules in the epilogue, mountain v viper never happens either
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>>217824181
Anon... you just cooked...
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>>217818762
>Be me
>Consider GOT a 7/10 TV Show
>Consider HOD a 1/10 TV Show. Unwatchable garbage that I refuse to sit through
>Consider KOT7K a 10/10 TV Show
the fact that Ive seen every GOT episode enhances my viewing of KOT7K, fun seeing what Westeros was like 100 years before GOT. But I havent a clue wtf happened 100 years before KOT7K

Should I view every 1 minute "Next Episode Preview" clip after each HOD episode and each 1 minute "Previous Episode Recap" so I can familiarize myself with Westeros History WITHOUT "watching" HOD?

>>217821558
I asked a question about the prettiest ladies, not the prettiest horses

>>217821781
>>217821606
>young Cersei
How old is Cercei when she hits the wall? Was she an evil cunt even when she was still beautiful? That'd be an understandable arc. Going from being worshipped by millions as an 11/10 unrivaled beauty "Helen of Troy" figure to some 6/10 above average "Just another Queen, just another typical Tuesday" figure could be a bit traumatic. Let us all pray to the Seven daily in hopes pic related doesn't hit the wall by Season 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9

>Hugor the Hill's unnamed wife
Why in the Seven Hells did her parents not assign her a name? Is she a wildling?

>>217821777
>into seriously kinky shit too
>implying pic related isn't twice as kinky (if not thrice)
trips. Seven bless you, Ser

>>217823099
>brown
She is far from being the blackest nigger in Game of Thrones Lore. The thug planning to castrate the dwarf was 50 times blacker
>fugly
Shes ok. Certainly not the biggest fish in the Sea of Westeros like pic related is but nor the smallest. I blissfully was unaware Volantis are the most beautiful race in GOT thanks for the Loredump Ser Dubs

>>217821736
>Book Sansa
I wouldn't know, GOT wasn't good enough to motivate me to purchase ASOFAI. However I purchased a copy of Hedge Knight immediately after viewing KOT7K

>>217821818
HARD pass

>>217822021
>Tell your brother that Talisa loses in the GOT franchise
done
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>>217823290
he's a big guy who was in the right place at the right time with the right mindset
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>>217822807
He unironically would have
The truth is that both him and Daeron were good and if any of the two relented his claim they would have worked wonders together.



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