the dragon ought never lose editionprev >>217818738>>217818762
The original aSoIaF pitch
Don't really care about hotd because Targs are shit and boring, but I will enjoy watching all the Dragons get killed in the Dragon Pit by ANDAL CHADS
so if theres westeros wheres easteros
sex with baelor breakspear
>>217823730Jon x Arya kino? Yes or no?
>>217823700That Targ guard armour is shit
>>217823700>your honour the stupid fucking bitch made the dragon lose
>>217823700Why is a woman from Yi Ti there?
>>217823700Why did this episode come out today instead of Sunday?
>>217823700Fucking targshits how dare he touch Tanselle Too-Tall Bobby B was right all along. Kill them all, smash there heads in, skin them alive
>>217823844Sunday is annual worship blacks day
>>217823844superb owl is this sunday
>>217823750I think you mean yes or yes.
>>217823750Yay.
>>217823750it's pure kino and GRRM should have the balls to stick to it despite the normie seethe
Stolen from another Anon.
>>217823882>>217823892Oh that's right. When did it air?
>gets bullied by smallfolk>gets triggered by puppet shows>overcompensates with edgy flame armorHes such a dweeb
Hello everybody I hate Dorneniggers
So many gurmites upset when their author gets called a misanthropeAegon won't survive to rule WesterosDany will not have real childrenThe dragons will all die off againJon will not be king and die in the Night's Watch againSansa will not be queen, if she even survives at allArya will not ninja kill an OtherHouse Lannister will never rule Westeros, but will creep on without Tywin's lineageStannis will not sit the Iron ThroneTheon can only take down someone with him, make it count, but he can't have kidsBrienne will only die a knight's deathBran is taken over by a magical superbeingThe "election" only puts a childless, immortal demigod on the Iron Throne, defeating the point of any kind of democratic principleJust accept that the hippie boomer doesn't actually understand the Middle Ages, hates monarchies, hates Christianity, thinks that holding elections magically absolves thousands of years of might-makes-right, and he had the hubris to think he could write a better sequel to Lord of the Rings than Tolkien could.
>I have become oddly fond of my fat little wife. The two before her never made a sound in bed, but this one squeals and shudders. I find that quite endearing. If she pops out sons the way she pops in tarts, the Dreadfort will soon be overrun with Boltonsbased Roose
>>217823968>you will never ride a dragon>second son of a fourth son >won’t inherit anything I understand him
>>217823932>be Ned >raise your sister's baby targaryen son as your own son>he looks like you>forget that Targaryens like to fuck their own little sisters>catch him banging your daughter, Arya, the sister that looks like his mom>facepalm. you should've seen it coming and should've promised Lyanna to have Benjen raise him
>>217823996>based RooseWhat’s his endgame?
I'm pro-absolute monarchy
>>217824047What if I'm king and make your bussy public property?
>>217823922Rymun's little red book
>>217824065You can do that right now bb
>>217824012He basically wants to pull a Blackfyre and summon a dragon to become head of the dynasty, incredible levels of coping and seething and almost forcing Egg to undergo dilating
>>217824065Then it would be unjust and your head would be off and we would get the next one in
>>217823996there is a real world equivalenthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_(Ottoman_sultan)> as well as overweight women, whom he craved.>Other anecdotes related to his harem are Ibrahim's supposed passion for obese women, which would have led Şivekar, called "the fattest woman at Constantinople", to become his favoritehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9Eivekar_Sultan>Şivekar Sultan was morbidly obese. In 1646, Ibrahim appointed his servants to look for the "fattest woman" in Constantinople. Upon this order, they started to search for palace officials and eventually found an Armenian woman in Üsküdar. Maria became his consort and he gave her the name Şivekar, meaning "flirty".
>>21782>Aegon won't survive to rule WesterosHe's a fake so good>Dany will not have real childrenGood. The best thing Jon can do is finish on Dany's tits>The dragons will all die off againGood. No more flying nukes>Jon will not be king and die in the Night's Watch againGood. the less targs the better>Sansa will not be queen, if she even survives at allGood. All hail Rickon, the Lord of Winterfell>Arya will not ninja kill an OtherSo no bad writing. What a great thing>House Lannister will never rule Westeros, but will creep on without Tywin's lineageGood. Tywin's line shouldn't survive>Stannis will not sit the Iron ThroneGood. One less terrible king on the Iron Throne>Theon can only take down someone with him, make it count, but he can't have kids3994Good. Winterfell was razed because of him>Brienne will only die a knight's deathGood. She'll live though as a legendary Kingsguard like Dunk>Bran is taken over by a magical superbeingMore like fused with one if you mean the weirwood but that'll just make him wise. If gandalf could be king of our countries, we'd choose that over democracy >The "election" only puts a childless, immortal demigod on the Iron Throne, defeating the point of any kind of democratic principleNothing says he's immortal though. Even Bloodraven is barely making it past 120
>>217824039continue trolling for the lolz>Roose has no feelings, you see. Those leeches that he loves so well sucked all the passions out of him years ago. He does not love, he does not hate, he does not grieve. This is a game to him, mildly diverting. Some men hunt, some hawk, some tumble dice. Roose plays with men. You and me, these Freys, Lord Manderly, his plump new wife, even his bastard, we are but his playthings.
>>217824100the first Architect
>have the opportunity to show that the commoners of Westeros aren't all assholes and that they see Dunk as a true Knight>LET'S DO A FART JOKE INSTEADSo this is the power... of female directors...
>>217824020>Arya POV where she says that only Ned and Jon had ever called her pretty>blushes when Jon messes with her hair and calls her little sisterNo wonder Ned all but encouraged Jon to go to the Wall, he knew he couldn't contain it much longer
I basedfaced when the theme started playing
I know it's mainly because the show is intended to be more light-hearted but it really stands out how "disarmed" the realm is mentally/sociallyDunk hits a royal prince, he's arrested and is supposed to fight in a trial by 7He's not confined to quarters, no guards follow him around, there's no bailiff stalking him to make sure he doesn't "skip bail" while he's looking for 6 other dudes to fight with himSort of borrowing /pol/ terminology but this is basically a way more high-trust culture than the Westeros we see in either HOTD or GOT where someone like Dunk accused of assaulting royalty would 100% be kept in chains or already simply killed offHe's a hedge knight with no lands titles or connections, no reputation or fame to make him recognizable(besides being tall, which can't be THAT rare) He could have just walked out of Ashford. But everyone's like "let him go out and find his 6 champions" and they genuinely expect him to returnA more chill, honorable and calm time. Really comfy
>>217823750Let's not
>>217824105> If gandalf could be king of our countries, we'd choose that over democracythat would be totally opposite to the morals of Tolkien's story>but Aragorn became king because of his descent !!that's not the same thing, for Tolkien monarchy is legitimate but that still doesn't mean that mighty beings can use their powers to dominate others
>>217824218>Big lumbering retard knight JUST beat up a prince>Egg is allowed to spend time with him privately with no guards>Later he is allowed to spend time with Baelor alone tooHigh trust is right they really have zero expectation that there would be any chimpouts
cringekino https://www.youtube.com/shorts/d5H8xbsTZqc
>>217824244man the joffrey actor was so good, shame he gave up acting because fans were retards
>*Meanwhile AKOTSK S2*Dunk: Daemon Blackfyre...whatever happened there
It's so funny seeing the Fossoways just be overtly "fuck the royals" they dont give a shit at all
>>217824218So much of it is due to Baelor being the person of highest authority as crown prince and Hand of the King. If Baelor was arbitrary, cruel, did not care for public perception, did not know Aerion was a shitstain, and so on, or if Baelor was not just there and isntead Maekar or Aerion were the highest authority, Dunk would just be tortured and executed.
>>217824261>so good at playing a villain people HATE you irl for itWhere's his awards
>>217824218>A more chill, honorable and calm time. Really comfyAnd so green! I love how there are more nature shots in AKotSK. GoT did a good job in early seasons but kind of gave up later on and it was all castle interiors.
>>217824273Eustace: Whatever happened there...whatever happened there? I'll tell you what happened, this piece of shit's uncle put six arrows in the kid without any provocation, what so ever.
>>217824218>>217824242>>217824306It's funny because Duncan almost legitimately killed Maekar's other son for lying just after getting outAlso where is the King and what does he think of his family getting thinned out over a little commoner torture
>>217824348Daeron II is king. Named the Good. From what we know of him he will probably handle it like Baelor did, though have not fought in the trial by seven. For that matter, it may not even be the kingsguard get permitted to fight for Aerion if he is there.
>T-trial by wombat>What the fuck is a trial by wombat?!>Ancient... seldom invoked. It came across the narrow sea from Austrios...
Wait am i retarded? Daeron's dragon dream wasn't forshadowing the aftermath of the trial, it was foreshadowing Summerhall?
I don’t understand the theory that Bloodraven was wiping out all the Targs in front of Egg. Why would he do that? I understand prophecy shenanigans but why does be need Egg’s line to rule? Couldn’t he just keep an eye on them while Baelor’s line rules?
As if Daeron could make it to Ashford with that wobbly belly and spindly legs
>YOU WILL DIE IN A FIREWhat did that crone mean by that
>>217824411Yeah and the dragon he kills is obviously not an actual dragon…
>>217824433more importantly, why would Aegon go somewhere where he could easily burn to death after hearing that shit?
>>217824459DUDEDRAGONSLOLtargshit madness, there needs to be an emergency button to press whenever an alien goes crazy
>>217824432He has the Iron Throne to support him.
>>217824459He can't dodge fireplaces now can he
>>217824432Osgrey Propaganda machine
>Duncan calls the Ashford maester a lordRetardkino
Dude if they cast Rohanne Webber as a nig I genuinely may crash out
I wish I hadn't spent so much of my life discussing this piece of shit series
>4 pages for duncan.. he must have been quite the manKINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO
>Nine days until next episodeGive me something for the pain and let me die.
>>217824526Why didn't you discuss something you really liked?
>>217823937kino way to confirm he was never knighted
>>217824411Why not both?
How long till the episode?
>>217824608Sunday next week
>>217824608>>217824565
>>217824565time to reread a knight of the seven kingdoms again. that's what i'm doing.>>217823937man i really wanted to hear the rest of the knight's oath. has grrm ever given us the full version?
>>217824616>>217824619Wait I missed todays episode? Is HBO mentally retarded, why wasn't it the same time as the others?
>>217824525she's already been cast
>>217824639they moved it because of the super bowl
>>217824639Superbowl is on Sunday so they released 4 today in case it clashes
This scene is kino and spells out the story's themes, why did they leave it out of this episode?
Did GURM invent House Strong just for one pun?
>>217824640Tytos Lannister is so lucky and he's literally me
>>217824668i'm hoping they at least have it for the final episode
>>217824640wonderful
>>217823700When Baelor came riding I thought WHAT?! Is it going to be 8vs6? But that's so UNFAIR. How is Dunk going to win NOW? But then he was like, NO, I'll fight for Dunk, and I was like WHAT, this man is so BASED. He will make a truly great king.
>>217824671What goes on in here?
>>217824668Not enough time, they need to do a fart joke instead. Small production, pls understand
>>217824668Because uhhhhh 30 min episodes fuck you (Why?)
>>217824668>he trusted hollywoodhave got and hotd taught you nothing
>>217824650>>217824656Alright but why was it earlier in time instead of the usual time slot?
>>217824668Pretty sure it will be the opening of next episode. It has to be there. Cutting it would be massively retarded and moving it after the end of the fight would be almost as retarded. Literally all they need to do is to make Dunk ride to a fence before the trial starts and see all the small folks gathered there in the mud cheering for him.
>>217824766Maybe it's place was taken? It'll still air on Sunday, they just decided to do it today too.
I'm a bit confused by this trial. Are they fighting to the death? On horse back? On foot? Jousting?
>>217824766superbowl took it's slot this sunday, it will be back for next sunday
>>217824835>Are they fighting to the death?death or yield or till dunc or aerion yileds>On horse back? On foot? Jousting?everything goes, they start with a charge on horseback, if you fall off it still continues, the longer you can stay on your horse the better
how likely is that season 3 doesn't happen?
>>217824835>Are they fighting to the death? On horse back? On foot? Jousting?Yes. It's to death or surrender. If they fall from their horses they can continue on foot. Dunk and Aerion are the king pieces and if either goes down the match is decided.
>>217824217same desu
>>217824835they didn't do a good job of explaining what the rules/stakes are
>>217824882at this rate this is gonna get greenlit 4 seasons when it shouldn't
>>217824217i'll admit it, i smiled bigly
>>217823262Keep in mind he fell for the "trump is hitler" stuff completely so in his senile mind the country is unironically sliding into fascism at the end of his life. Everyone he loves is dying, he can't finish his magnum opus, his country is imploding, he has no children, no legacy. He is overdosing on blackpills.
>>217824668Sad they cut this. But that scene with lyonel knighting raymun and dunk remembering arlan was so kino, I forgive them for not including this
He bore the sword.
Maegor's trial sounds 100x more kino. Can't we see that one instead?
>has couraged deserted the noble houses of westeros?>I will not believe it is so!>are there no true knights among you?!That's impactful. I repeated these scene ten times now.
>>217824967>"trump is hitler"he's worse, because from a liberal pov he is destroying america and it's constitution and forever creating a bad precedent for future presidentsand he's shit from a right wing perspective because he's incompetent unlike hitler
>>217824565Pain is salvation anonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJbkmpq7jHE
>>217824982It sucks that GOT shat the bed so hard that HBO didn’t want to risk greenlighting a 20 season adaptation of Fire and Blood
>>217824982rest in peace dick bean
>>217824982dick bean, really?
>>217825043mind you this is the series that has people in these threads that get mad over fart jokes
>>217824668"GRRM is cynical and hates goodness and morality" squad in shambles
/dunk/ bro's....we're back.
Is there any character whose show ending you are pretty sure is totally different than what GRRM planned? For me Arya fucking off to west of westeros doesn't fit right at all
>>217825051Chivalry to smallfolk is just goyslop for them anyway. It doesn't improve their living conditions or opportunities.
>Ser Duncan casting call - "Soldier">Aged 18-25. The soldier is very tall and physically strong. He has a humble disposition and is perceptive and thoughtful. Any ethnicity. Must be at least 6'4 (193cm).Can you imagine how the show would've looked like if they casted a nigger for Dunk?
>>217824633In the name of the Warrior I charge you to be brave.In the name of the Father I charge you to be just.In the name of the Mother I charge you to defend the young and innocent.In the name of the Maid I charge you to protect all women.In the name of the Smith I charge you to be strong.In the name of the Crone I charge you to be wise.In the name of the Stranger I charge you to hold these vows until he comes.Arise, ser Anon.
cast Bennis
>>217825064i'm confident they will all end the same way the show has them end, the road will be significantly different tho
>>217825073Weewuz knight. No one would watch that except niggers topkek.
>>217825064Well if George was planning on killing Sansa, but has the option of keeping her alive, it suggests that Arya becoming Lady of Winterfell isn’t her endgame. So it may be something like that
This nigga really rolled up at the end and offered to fight for /dunk/
>>217825064Stannis
>>217825090
>>217824948why you say that? i thought the ratings weren't great
>>217825108>He doesn't know
>>217825104i have felt this way about baelor since he first started talking lol, now even more so with his muffled audio
>>217825064Littlefinger.i see him and Sansa going down together
>>217825104This occurred to me too but only in this past episode
>>217824982why does the name Lucifer exist in that world?
Did Dunk not know the Vow or did he not feel comfortable creating a false knight?
>>217825104now i'm gonna be even more sad thanks
>>217824982There's a theory that Maegor died after the duel and that the gods really didn't want him to be king, only he was resurrected by his witch gf.>>217825027>ywn see jaehaerys kino
>>217825174He didn't feel comfortable creating a false knight. Someone who desperately wanted to be one like him would have known the words.
>>217823700>lol but what if instead of a theme it's just diarrhea?>lmao but what if ser arlen has a big dick?>hahaha but what if the horse shits?>huehuehue but what if he farts?this show would be better if they didn't have to hamfist in some bodily function humor every single episode for whatever reason
>>217825162Lucifer means light bringer originally referring to a star/planet and only later entered Christian lore
>>217825205Jaehaerys will always be my King.
>>217825162Massey is a great empire of the dawn house, the cultural group that azor ahai belonged to, you know the fire lord with the sword called “lightbringer”. It’s yet another hint that the prophecy isn’t about a good guy who’s gonna save the day
Imagine killing 3 guys and still losing the trial.Aerion did nothing wrong. His team should've had his back against Dunk's retard strength.
>>217824982>Hmm, another rebel character who will fight against the Targaryens and lose...>But what should I name him?>*changes hats*>MY SCIENCE, PARIS, I THINK I JUST MADE A BREAKTHROUGH!>"are you finally going to finish the book honey?">No, but I've written another side story!
>>217824982Willem the wanderer killed Maegor and the trial was a tie only visenya brought Maegor back with blood magic
Was the guy who farted a Bracken?
>>217825162>Faith Militant was defeated by a guy named LuciferGood grief, George. And I thought Aslan dying on the table for Edmund's sins and coming back to life was on the nose.
Streaming episode 4 in 20 min if anyone missed ithttps://kino.tube
>>217825231Daughter was a chad for refusing the role assigned to her by her dadWhore > incestuous alien baby factory
>when the GoT theme came inFucking K I N O
Is dunk dumb or is just the funhouse mirror effect of low self-esteem?
>>217825289Yes, bracken shit almost as vile as blackfyre fucking shits
>>217825317What goes on in this channel usually?
The feet ruined the dramatic tension that was building up the entire episode and by the time baelor made his epic entrance I was already out of it and didn’t care as much as I should have
Baelor is too kino for this world. Haven't read the books, but his death is telegraphed miles away. He's like wrapping the best qualities of Ned and Tywin into one nigga who also has the Baratheon vigor. No, bro. That nigga is dead.
>>217825355Fart*
>>217825329
>>217825205maegor being resurrected is barely theory anymore
>>217825222>>huehuehue but what if he farts?but this made sense, the nobles dont care about duncan or his plead
>>217825335He's like 17 years old, naive, and uneducatedHe's not dumb, just lacks knowledge and life experience. His emotional intelligence, however, is better than average man three times his age.
>>217825355Yeah. It was Marvel tier. They needed to play it more earnestly. Showing the nobles being somewhat moved by the speech but in the end no one being willing to step up.
Imagine being so fucking badass they call you the “Hammer” and “The Anvil”
>>217825355are you dumb? you think it was some whedonesque "oh my god we need to lower the tension" joke? it was to show how little anyone in the universe cares about honor its what makes characters like dunk so different
>>217825355You werent taking it seriously enough and thats why you didnt get itWas Dunk laughing? No. Fuck that farting piece of shit. Thats what I thought.
>>217825397That’s literally what the bracken does in the book. He tells dunk “Aye I don’t disagree that your cause is a just one…but it’s not my cause”. Which is fair enough. The show changed it to “HURRR LE FART JOKE BRACKENS ARE BAD LOLOLOL”
>>217825394Yeah they obviously don’t give a shit and even if they did its better for them to show outright scorn for the guy that punched and kicked the royal. The smallfolk are anonymous and can get away with throwing rocks and probably cheering Dunk in the next episode
>>217825415>its what makes characters like dunk so differentI hope you meant Baelor. Dunk is a liar fake knight.
>>217825411Daemon was so stupid to put his faith in bittersteel that day
>>217825370I wonder how gory they’ll make it, ugh
>>217825426>The show changed it to “HURRR LE FART JOKE BRACKENS ARE BAD LOLOLOL”That’s a change respectful to the canon and George’s vision
>>217824217The way they mixed it with Dunk's theme for the credits was pretty great too.
>>217825434he lies about being knighted but he still does everything he can to live up to how a knight should be.
>>217825455If it was George’s vision it would have been in the book he wrote
It was a kino episode, but not gonna lie, it made the Andals look like complete cucks.
>>217825435Baelor and Maekar wanted to take him alive, Baelor even begged daddy Daeron to let them give Daemon the chance to surrender, that's how much they loved their uncle but uncle Bloodraven just shot him full of arrows before they had the chance kek.
>>217825426Why are brackenfags so obsessed?How does one even become a brackenfag to begin with
>>217825434Dunk is the truest knight in the realm and that's why Baelor fights with him
>>217825501>it made the Andals look like complete cucks.
>>217825510Because Blackwoods are fucking cringe and gay
>>217825506Well bloodraven was the only smart fag
>>217825506>source: this was once revealed to me in a dream
>>217825506makes sense, Baelor and Daemon grew up together, Daemon also respected Baelor and Baelor got his nickname from kicking Daemon's ass in a joust, honestly i believe there was a path to peace but Bloodraven and Bittersteel ruined it
>>217825394next episode I bet you the exact same side character gets a speaking role where he says some shit about dunk being a true knight before everyone stands up and slowly begins to clap.
>>217825435>Daemon was so stupid to put his faith in bittersteel that day>that dayDaemon was Ned Stark levels of retarded
>>217825370Do you know why Baelor was taken from us so quickly? It’s because he was so smart and unique that he was able to create original names. Valarr… Matarys…! A good hand and heir, actually a decent person, a loving father, an attentive lover, and a good brother…
>>217825530Sure but why pick a losing battle? GURM is in charge and brackens will always be the salty losers in the end.
>>217825064Yes Euron
>>217825561>but why pick a losing battle?You wouldn’t get it
hes a good boy
>>217825438I hope it goes slow motion while he strikes him and then for a second the whole screen goes x-ray so you see the crack. People here would freak the fuck out
A Targaryen girl could fix me
Retard here.Does the tourney happen after the trial?
>>217825720the trail ruined everything
>>217825720There will be no turney, anon. It was a bait and switch to make us watch this retarded trial of seven.
>>217825501The Targaryens come across as even more cucked if we play that game. The Targaryens have adopted the language and the religion of the Andals. The sister-fucking aspect the Targaryens had has gone with this generation given neither the king, Baelor, or Maekar are married to Targaryens; Aerion's father is half-Dornish and Aerion's mother is Dornish, so if we actually apply his own worldview properly then he is a mongrel rather than pure Valyrian. The dragons are all dead. Aerion is such a bitch afraid he will get dunked by Dunk he has to cite some variant of the Andal trial by combat that the Andals do not even commonly do. The Targaryens are this point are just larping at being Valyrian dragon lords whose rule is on a ticking clock before one of them does something absolutely retarded that sees the First Men and Andals rebel.
>>217825714How did Aegon IV manage to seduce everyone including two targaryen princesses?
>>217825733>>217825743Damn.Do books 2 or 3 have a proper tourney?
Preston is live
>>217825746Targaryens aren’t doing incest because there aren’t many Targaryen females. Rhaegel’s children married one another.
>>217825746Yeah, but when it came to step up only a Targ heard the call of honor. Cuzin downright betrayed his own racism for a lord title. It was some real cuck behavior from the Andals.
>>217825764Aegon only slept with Daena
>>217825791>Who is Viserys Plumm
>>217825790Raymuns honor balanced out his cousins cuckoldry and aerions faggotry cancels out baelors basedness
>>217825812The son of Lord Plumm, it's in his name anon
>>217825714>So beautiful a man died just from seeing her naked>Was secretly the master of coin and constantly haggled with the iron bank jews>eventually married out of actual love with a man that loved music as much as herElaena was one in a million
>>217825002>because he's incompetent unlike hitlerthis is an odd claim, in so much as we have never seen a president try to pull off what Trump is attempting. Do we have anyone we can actually compare this to, except for JFK? Even in this competition, Trump is winning because he survived more assassinations than JFK did.
>>217825831Don't forget she was hot at 70
>>217825790Do the Fossoways even count as Andals? They are founded as First Men house. I never really got how exactly these houses see themselves as culturally being. Is it just regional identity as in North, Reach etc, with only places that are distinctly First Men like the North or standouts like the Blackwoods making a big deal about being First Men?>Yeah, but when it came to step up only a Targ heard the call of honor. Cuzin downright betrayed his own racism for a lord title. It was some real cuck behavior from the Andals.Which Raymun counters. Plus all the other non-Targaryens that sided with Dunk.
>>217825714Oakenfist was a WHITE MAN, my waifu was NOT blacked, fuck you HBO
>>217824100kek this is based, the chick probably already had a family as well
>>217825885Elaena is black in show canon
someone more well versed in ASOIAF lore indulge mehow were the targaryens really as a dynasty? were they ultimately good for the realm or were they just incest loving alien weirdos like how fossoway described
>>217825789What's even the logic when there is no dragons? There is not justification of preventing the ability to bond with dragons spreading or keeping the blood magical through not diluting it (which itself seems vague on the second point).
>>217825930mixed bag, but honestly they were losers in their homeland and were losers in their new homeland
Stop raping ser
>>217825930Like 2 out of every 3 kings was bad but on the other hand thats probably true of most dynasties. For like 150 years before the dance the realm was peaceful though and before aegon all they did was war with each other
>>217825930for every good king there was also an Aerys II tier lunatic, and a lot of them only reigned for a few years. Arguably Jaehaerys I is the only Targ king who was actually worth the bullshit Maegor and his successors put everyone through
>>217825930Targ rulers are all over the spectrum, from genuinely amazing to fucking awful. They tend to lean towards the latter though and their bad rulers are particularly bad (every Aegon except the first, Maegor, Rhaenyra, Aerys, all catastrophic rulers)
>>217825936Legitimacy, the Doctrine of Exceptionalism
>>217825970What did Aegon III do
>>217825998"dragonbane"
>>217825936They had stopped doing incest for decades and it was considered taboo for them as it was the rest of Westeros but then eggs son brought it back because he was a gooner and wanted to fuck his sister and not get in trouble
>>217825998Cried and pissed his pants a lot
>>217826018Blame Viserys and the jewy maesters.
>>217826037Blame rhaenyra for getting herself eaten In front of her son causing him to have a visceral hatred for dragons
>>217825930It just seems like they are cruising off King Jaehaerys I being competent. Maegor the Cruel came before Jaehaerys, and the weak Aenys before Maegor. Viserys follows Jaehaerys and leads to the massive civil war that is the Dance which kills off the actual thing keeping Targaryens in power. Daeron I 'conquered' Dorne but as I put that in inverted commas tells you he did not really. Baelor I was a religious lunatic. Aegon the Unworthy was a fatfuck who spited the realm leading to the Blackfyre situation. Aerys I was such a nerd who liked reading he could not even be bothered to fuck his wife. Jaehaerys II was sickly, went against his father by wanting to fuck his sister, and forced his children to fuck each other. Aerys is the mad king. In the events of dunk the current king Daeron II is called the good, but that just seems largely relative to his father being the Unworthy. The best thing they have done is unify Westeros that you presume has benefited the economy somehow and has stopped a bunch of border wars, but at the same time you know get entire continental war given any civil war drags everyone in.
>>217825971Which only made sense when they had dragons. Now it just paints them as weirdos who are denying themselves alliance building. Now one is looking at the Targaryens fucking their sister and thinking that makes them legitimate when the dragons have gone. People were not supporting that even when they had dragons and the aspect of being different.
is grum really so fucking retard that he doesn't realize that something like the doom of valyria would cause a massive extinction event across the whole planet and not just the freehold?
>>2178259301 of the kings was the greatest to ever do it, 3 or 4 of the kings were decent, and the rest were an embarrassment
>>217826050>Blame rhaenyraWhy am I not surprised you guys jump at any opportunity to blame the single rightful female ruler Westeros has had
>>217825930Targs abolished slavery and prima nocta throughout westeros, disarmed the Faith and built the kingsroad. That's about it, everything else was either worse or almost exactly the same.
>>217826088Not if it was a targeted nuclear strike
>>217826036Not in public and he was considered a good king
>>217826133>disarmed the FaithThis is only good for Targaryens. The small folk loved the warriors sons they wouldn’t have been seen as a bad thing that the targs liberated people from
>>217825930You know how Robert is portrayed as not being an especially good king? Robert is still in the upper half of the best monarchs on the Iron Throne the bar is that low.
>>217825930It's summed up in Dunk's story.Hedge Knight is a critique on nobility and royalty from the peasant perspective, not a singularly focused anti-Targaryen piece. Aristocracy is terrible as a concept and institution is what GRRM is trying to say.
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>>217826133>slaveryWhat are you talking about? Slavery is not a thing in Westeros due to the Faith? Thraldom of the Ironborn is the closet thing to it - and the Targaryens did fuck all about it.
IMDb rating has gone from 8.3 to 8.5 today.
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>>217825998Gave the place a bad vibe.
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>>217826147>The small folk loved the warriors sons they wouldn’t have been seen as a bad thing that the targs liberated people fromThis. People use maegor disarming the faith as a point in his and his houses favor, as if medieval people were all Reddit atheists from the 20th century who want to separate church from state
HAS HONOR DESERTED THE NOBLE HOUSES OF WESTEROS?!
>>217826156>Aristocracy is terrible as a concept and institution is what GRRM is trying to say.So why does GRRM jerk off the aristocracy so much while barely giving any agency to the smallfolk characters (Dunk is important because he's basically mentoring the future king of Westeros and be his most loyal servant, Glendon Ball's value is tied to his heritage, Davos was technically a lord for a decade)? Literally ending to the story is Bran becoming king because of superpowers he only has from his Stark bloodline.
>>217825930The greatest achievement is Jaehaerys built some roads.
So is the "cider" squire (now knight) going to fight on foot or does he have a warhorse ?
maybe i am a retard pleb but i didn't like the fart joke cutting the tension, also hoping they will focus a bit more on the reaction of the commoners
>>217826249Jaehaerys greatest achievement was that he made the Targaryen Dynasty an actual dynasty, like actually establishing public infrastructure and universal laws. Aegon did fuck all while ruling as king.
>>217825064Pretty much everyoneGeorge is rewriting the entire thing because of the reception of his original idea in the show
>>217826201Baelor's aura farming is responsible for that bump
>>217826192Harrenhal was built by slaves taken by King Harren who was king of the riverlands and iron isles. Aegon killing the biggest slaver king in westeros pretty much destroyed it in its entirety.
>>217826268horse
>>217826247/me farts
>>217824967Can't relate to this attitude. The far right worldview is so much darker, yet I got over it, still working my trade, appreciate money and entertainment.
>>217826247*fart*
Preston's live is overwhat did we like the most about it?
>>217826325Why are you watching it live and not on playback at 2x
>>217826271I would say the idea is it is to show how full of shit and disdaining the nobility is. They all know that Aerion is a cunt and that is Dunk is the right about his oaths as a knight. They just do not care because all that stuff is either stuff they fully think is lip service or when push comes to shove they lack the strength of character to embody virtues they claim.
4/4 episodes are a homerun can they keep it up
>>217826284Harren isn’t from Westeros and is a foreign invader
>>217826353this is the equivalent of 8 episodes of a got season being good
>>217826350It’s just a fart joke bro
>>217826353There’s only two left. The series will likely be repackaged as one film. Which it should. It can easily be cut to fit one 3 hour film.
>>217826358This is like saying all caucasian americans are foreigners, the Ironborn had been on Westeros far longer than the Rhoynar had.
>>217826276>public infrastructure>a single shitty dirt road that is barely maintained meanwhile King's Landing smells like shit and the majority of the city is a slum. Targs are pathetic, literally lower than the Freys who at least made a decent bridge
>>217826244His whole series is dedicated to portraying the pitfalls of this particular system of government. He is anti-monarchy to his core. Unless this post is a joke, I’m very confused right now.
>>217826284I was under the impression he was using thralls as the Ironborn in general do. Which the line between the two is blurred, but in any case the Targaryens should have gone the full way and outlawed thraldom.
Love the armors in the dunk show, nice to see some color
>>217826399Where did I mention monarchy? I’m pointing out how the small folk aided and sheltered the faith militant during Maegors reign and the vast majority of Westeros would not consider the disarming of the faith as a good thing. Because medieval societies were religious and not Reddit atheists
>>217824640kinda looks like Hayley Atwell
>>217826418I never want to see a cgi dragon ever again if this is what the budget can be spent on
>>217826377>>217826382Only 2 left....1 hour.then 3 years wait for season 2 probkms
>>217826442Disregard, the reply was meant for >>217826248
>>217826276What universal laws? Westeros does not have much in a way of a codified legal system. Whatever laws he did implement are so basic and loose in application. As for public infrastructure, he built some roads and that is it. Sure long roads, but it is not like he set the ball rolling for a continuous public works scheme in Westeros or that building roads is that much of a bigbrain move. Jaehaerys looks so good because the standards are so fucking low.
>>217826399>>217826462Martin is just an edgelord, which is why goody two shoes characters like Egg and Dany fail at the end. He does seem to have a boner for "wise kings", like Jaehaerys, Viserys II, and Daeron the Good. Bran the Broken will likely fit the same pattern.His own answer to the question of "what makes a good king?", will probably just be "a really smart guy".
>>217826457They said it'll be yearly.
>>217826444Not at all. Either you are face blind or just are in the mood to be horny to Atwell. Go and clear your head by having a wank to her.
>>217826503It's filming right now
>>217826248Aristocracy makes good TV and without it you are watching Father Ted.
>>217826418Fossoway's a cunt but his armor was pretty neat.
>>217826457the show doesnt have dragons so theres less cgi to do making the show quicker to make and cheaper
>>217826517>Not at all. Either you are face blind No I am more perceptive than you.I see details that you are blind too.I see the letters at the bottom that you are unable to read.
>>217826551Unironically why is CGI more expensive than practical sets or effects? One would think actually physically creating props would be more costly than just doing the same thing on a computer?
So incest doesn't seem to have the same negative affects in ASOIF as it does in the real world, so then what caused incest to become taboo amongst the Westerosi nobles?
>>217826582no clue i would guess its wages for the artists + hours
>>217826602Baelor has a retarded younger brother who looks like this that the family keeps hidden from the public; his name is rhaegel and he has a pet monkey
How can you guys stomach this Duncan Egg stuff. There aren't any dragons in it
Are we really getting no boobs except that wide shot in ep1?
We’re definitely getting maester aemon in episode 6, it’s easy fan service and there’s a whole episode to fill with original shit
>>217826582You underestimate how much labor is involved in good cgi
>>217826634It seems to be much rarer in the world of ASOIF than it is in the real world and happened after many, many centuries of Targ inbreeding so how then did Westerosi society come to have a disdain for it given the negative impact is shown to be quite rare and not as severe compared to the real world which is what caused Western nations to be averse to it, one would think the nobles would all engage in incest as it would allow them to concentrate their wealth and power, seems to have much more upside in the world of ASOIF
>>217826446>>217826543Glorious.Also reminds me how disappointed I was when I watched the first season of game of thrones and saw Renly. I pictured a clean shaven guy who almost looked like peak Robert with a green armor.Instead it was drab and he was a frail bearded little man.
>>217826602With the Targaryens there is the aspect of maybe they have magic blood in some form. Incest also does seem to have at least some negatives on the Targaryens. The insanity or cruelty that Targaryens have a higher than normal tendency towards is, whether actually true or not, reasonably attributed to the incest. You have Targaryen women that have given birth to dragon-like babies that have stuff like scales and tails. They are also not fully just marrying fellow Targareyns either, so there is at least some degree of new blood entering into them that may be countering it from being even worse.
>>217826670Personally I want a Bloodraven cameo
>>217826701The most inbred Targaryen(Doctor Who Daemon) was less inbred than irl Cleopatra(the famous one)
>>217825222Well, I for one, am eagerly anticipating the next bodily function.
>>217826638>There aren't any dragons in it
>>217824217Hell yeah, that shit dropped hard
>>217826634Rhaegel has three children
Is wildfire actually magical? Or is it just fucked up chemistry?
>>217826638Insane to see something so Aerionphobic 4 episodes into the season
>>217826756I got the impression he was simply autistic, he's considered "simple" because he was caught dancing naked in the Red Keep even though he's generally seen as a gentle guy.
>>217826761its supposed to be similar to greek fire irl.
So who is gonna shit/cum/fart on Baelor's smashed head?
My wife and I watched each episode 2-3 times. We both agree this is 100x better than anything HOTD or game of thrones since season 2. But HBO did a great disservice to trim what is literally a 3 hour long film into 2 months of cliff hanger episodes. Fucking retards. Just release it as a film into theaters.
>>217826793They could do full-sized episodes if they adapted everything that was in the novella.
>>217823996>>217826793Is this you and her?
>>217826793theatres are deadgot and hotd fans are too used to watching tv shows at home
>For my wife and my wife's son!!
>>217825544I can't bide abide that creepy ass little nigga on the left Someone should've drown his ass in the chequey water
>>217825544Vibes
Is Bran even powerful?He didn’t do anything in the fight against the white walkers. He can’t actually change the past. He’s just a recorder.
>>217826858You're obviously a blackfyre shit
>>217826858Couldn't do that. His mom was pretty much loved by everyone at court that mattered. Yes, including the fat fuck king after he pumped and dumped her and the woman he cucked.
>>217826753He’s handsome. I’d let him fuck me in my face.
>>217826855>implying Daemon didn't have dragon dreams that only his blood would sit on the Iron ThroneHe only had to play pretend with those bastards, so his whore niece wouldn't be any wiser.
>>217826888I have a theory that Euron is going to destroy the citadel in the book, all the ancient lore and scrolls on medicine and engineering etc will be lost. Bran being the three eyed crow will make him the recipient of the world’s knowledge and he will be integral in pulling Westeros out of a new dark age. Bran the rebuilder if you will
>>217826935>BookBook is never getting finished, GRRM is going to die this year
>>217826888We don’t know. He can control animals and see into the past, but it’s unknown if he can actually control people. >>217826935That would work. I like the humbleness of the children of the forest. They use wood in its purest most natural form to record their lore, rather than chipping them down into paper.
>>217826953True. At least oldtown is safe forever now
>>217826935Is the citadel really the only source of knowledge in the world? I do find them suspiciously modern in method, but still. Braavos is entering its Renaissance era.
>>217826888Bran can affect the past, Martin himself literally detailed how the Hodor scene would be different in TWOW (Bran regularly warged into Hodor's childhood to practice swordfighting, then applied the same skills to his adult self when the wights were breaking through, until caused a feedback loop that made Hodor simple).
>>217826935>>217826953>>217826958Oldtown will be blown up because both Leyton Hightower and Euron Greyjoy are idiots dabbling in forces they just do not understand. One seeks to take control of the city, the other seeks to defend it—but both will end up destroying the city prize altogether.
>>217826858he's the coolest one there
>>217826974> Bran can affect the past, Martin himself literally detailed how the Hodor scene would be different in TWOWNot quite. Hodor was always meant to Hodor. Bran’s body is still stuck in the past—by default and alteration he makes cannot be his own. The Hodor he affected likely wasn’t his own Hodor, specifically. Any other Bran could have done it. — So Bran may be responsible for Hodor’s simplicity, due to going into his mind so powerfully that it rippled back through time. The explanation of Bran’s powers, the whole question of time and causality—can we affect the past? Is time a river you can only sail one way or an ocean that can be affected wherever you drop into it? These are issues I want to explore in the book, but it’s harder to explain in a show. The eeriness of the old gods might be that their prophecies are from different timelines. If you can’t fix your timeline, why not try and warn another?
I remember seeing a theory on reddit that Tyrion will use his knowledge of the sewers of Casterly Rock to pretty much do Castamere 2.0 and just wipe out both it and Lannisport. Hopefully that happens. Fuck show Tyrion, fucking faggot crying over a whore.
>>217827025Bran’s body is still stuck in the present*
>>217827025I think the time travel is the stable time paradox kind where any "changes" always and already occurred. It does open up the series to all kinds of "did Bran set this historical event in motion from his throne" supernatural conspiracy theories.
series will end with Bran warged into grrm writing a song of ice and fire
I like how the magic in this world has the same outcomes and goals despite taking different shapes and forms. There were definitely greenseers (or their equivalent) in old Valyria, just going by the nature of the glass candles. Just as there are (were) greenseers (the Undying) in Qarth.
>>217827076Time travel can’t work with paradoxes. It has to be paradox free. The past you step into isn’t your own. It doesn’t matter how similar it is. If you alter your past at all you are effectively preventing yourself from making a change at all. Time goes one way even when you go into the past, there is no true backward.
>>217827080Bran killed those pet turtles from Martin's childhood
Hey guys I found George R R Martin’s character in Bloodborne. He doesn’t appear to be doing much.
>>217826353the first 2 episodes were just fine
> The eeriness of the old gods might be that their prophecies are from different timelines. If you can’t fix your timeline, why not try and warn another?Holy shit this is k i n o
>>217827170lul
How true is this?> Magic is like throwing a piece of raw meat to a dangerous animal. Hoping for its favour. That animal also hates you. Or it likes to see you suffer. There is some real sinister shit going on in the primeval past. Magic is bright and colorful but dark and black underneath.
>>217827222More or less true. Dragons — THE creatures of magic — likely came from some abyssal ocean abomination.
>>217827174Hard disagree. I've liked every episode so far, but thought the first two in particular were amazing, specially the second. I wouldn't change a second of it. Perfect execution. The ending with Dunk deciding he will show to the lords the worth of his master, whom no one could bother to remember, is I think the only time I've been genuinely moved by this franchise.
>>217823968I know Baelor wishes he could give him a late term abortion
i just want to see one pointy headed zebra rider
Just got done watching, what a fucking kino episode. Lyonel knighting Raymun, Dunks speech and Baelor entering to the GoT theme were 10/10.
ARE THERE REALLY WINGED MEN IN THE EAST
>>217827283Yeah I would agree that the second episode was the best. The entire time him going to this and that lord for a small morsel of recognition of his old master who he looked up to as a father figure, only to be dismissed and ridiculed the entire time, finally getting some recognition from the prince himself, to at the end of the day coming to term with the fact that the old man may have not been as great a knight as he thought, but he left him as his legacy and he'll show all those haughty lords what Arlan's hand has wrought, it was all perfectly excuted
Am I retarded? I didn't think the new episode was out yet
>>217827401early because of the superb owl
>>217827424Wikipedia says the 8th though, when did it actually drop?
>>217827437Friday at midnight, I think. I saw it last night before going to sleep.
i never read the filler booksis a knight of the seven kingdoms faithful to the book material?the episodes themselves are pretty good but it all kinda feels lackluster, every episode feels like a filler episode, and they're very short.
>>217823750Not nearly so kino as the later JonxSansa plan
>>217827512readcomicsonline
>4 pages for ser duncan.. he must have been quite the manKINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>217827554So they say
>>217827554>>217827673>The scribe actually just forgot to write down Jamie's great deeds
>>217827703kek, the scribe is barristan selmy. Jaime seethes that he didn't include some of his tourney wins to make his entry longer because he has no other legit accomplishments
>>217827703>Look ser anon, someone forgot to write down all of your based posts
The Arlan shrugging lives rentfree in my head>>217827770KEK
>>217827793>>217827793>>217827793
>>217827540Ohh you mean the plan that’s never happening?
>>217827283hmm i guess you are a slice-of-life kind of guy
