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>Latest patch
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-calibration-update-1122

>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

>Group password
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>Previous
>>484223542
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Marika sex
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How do you deal with Radahn's gravity AoE thing if you get pulled in?
As far as I can tell it's just a continuous multihit hitbox that covers half the arena for like 4 full seconds. It doesn't look like it should cover his feet because the stone shards only burst upwards a distance from him, but the hitbox covers his feet anyways

Are you just forced to eat shit if you don't dodge the pull?
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Ranni sex
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I'm at Radahn's door and I'm gonna do 1 solo attempt then when I see how cancerous it is I'll do the rest with my mimic and hope he finishes the job
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DLC opinions time

>Best boss
Bayle the Dread
>Worst boss
Radahn

>Best area
Darklight Catacombs
>Worst area
Abyssal Woods

>Best addition
Perfume bottles
>Worst addition
Swift AoW
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>>484241768
His phase 1 is fun you should try beat that first at least
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>>484241743
I managed to entirely dodge it twice by just spamming dodge away from him
It's possible to roll all of the ticks but really, really fucking hard and I just accepted my fate that if I didn't roll the initial pull I was eating shit
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>>484241768
You should at least beat phase 1 solo. That part is actually fun.
When he enters phase 2 just get your mimic out and get it over with.
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Marika switched to Radagon because he rose to the top of the religion surrounding her.
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Is Sellen weak the FTH like the other Carians?
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>>484241751
based
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>>484241768
Phase 1 is mostly fine. Phase 2 is the cancer
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>>484241516

What was your DEX/ARC spread? It seems to only do decent dmg/blood loss on a near 50/50 split...
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Godquella and Ranni armwrestling using both right arms.
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I keep getting inappropriate activity message AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I JUST WANNA PLAY
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>>484241768
Radahn is balanced to shred through max level spirit ash HP before he can run out of HP which is why his phase shift is at 3/4 HP instead of 1/2
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My game bugged and Freyja dropped all of her loot twice so I have two sets of her armour and two of her greatswords
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MAY CHAOS TAKE(the host's) WORLD!
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Rape sex
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>>484242051
>both Empyreans we see having discarded their flesh have this weird double body effect
Am I retarded? I didn't think about this until just now
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>>484241743
Depends on your framerate. If his attacks dont lag you to shit then yeah you can spam dodge backwards, but if you get frame drops good luck with that since itll just eat your inputs
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>>484241865
>Best boss
Messmer
>Worst boss
Putrescent Knight

>Best Area
Shaded castle
>Worst Area
Ruins of Rauh or whatever they're called parking lot tunnels

>Best addition
all new fashion
>worst addition
idk they're all fine
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Uhhh so why did ranni decide to be blue?
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What's the deal with giving that white bug guy who's almost dead a warming stone? He starts recovering but he's not saying anything
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>Son of Marika
>Aspiring Lord of the Old Order.
>Thou art a fool for eschewing your fears and love. Thine journey will end here.
>By my hand, Ranni, and mine Consort's, the Elden Lord's.
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>>484241743
1st phase you can roll backwards and outpace the aoe. 2nd phase you dodge the initial pull or pray he forgets he has it
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>>484241865
Why do people like Bayle? Poor man's Midir.
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Miquella sexo oOOooOOoooo
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>>484241743
i just run back out while jumping?
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>>484242073
Most bosses actually phase shift around 60-70% hp it's done because the vast majority of them are open to damage during their phase transition animation so they'll be at 50 by the end of it.
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>>484242375
Midir was shit
DS3 was shit
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>>484242361
reload and you can talk to it.
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>>484242332
>they're all fine
stupid nigger
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>>484242230
Oh no
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>>484242365
cute
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>>484242359
blue skin sexo uuuoooohhhh bratty witch seducing tarnished needs marriage correction
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>>484242105
If you go under the playground at McDonald's then there's another McDonald's down there and the prices all say Free
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>>484242365
Miquella... your response???
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Is there something special about Mohg that made him necessary to let Miquella enter the Shadow Realm, and use him for Radahn's body?
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>>484242432
cope the DLC isn't getting any less popular from you pissing yourself over it
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>>484242567
The blood of the Dark Soul
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>>484242538
anon are you feeling ok?
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>we get to learn about the ancient civilization that left its ruins and its fucking golems all over the Lands Between that got 0 lore in the base game
>lolnvm actually we don't learn anything about them
At least give us some vague gesture about why their civilization died out fucking damn.
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>>484242554
>my consort has a bigger cock than yours
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>>484242432
>chimps out
>calls me a nigger
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>>484242375
Very cool spectacle fight, cool lore, best summon, and he doesn't feel overtuned. I can roll into his legs and attack him and when he lunges or sweeps me I am not killed in one fucking shot like Radahn. The run back is right there unlike Midir.

My fav
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>>484242375
Igon carries that fight with his cheerleading. Otherwise I think the fight is kinda shit. the road to it is kinda cool though. Midir is mid too.
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I beat the game.
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>>484242567
No it was purely a plot contrivance. The Shadow Lands are replete with outsiders that just fucking wandered in recently, including a redmane yet for some reason Miquella and Miquella alone needed some convoluted plan just so the DLC's retcons could vaguely line up with the base game's staging from 2 years ago
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>>484242567
The portal to the shadow realm is Miquella's corpse, perhaps he just needed someone to pull him out of his failed haligtree and Mohg fit the bill at the time?
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>Ranni has 152 votes in the poll
It's over
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Don't spoil me but I just beat the Elden Beast.
Who the fuck was supposed to explain me what's going on? I know most of the lore of Godfrey. But everything that happened after that, not a single fucking clue.
Didn't trigger any of the ending though.
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>>484242796
Looks like your mimic downloaded the mind control app
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why won't the walking turtle castles let me copy the moon queen soul?
>kill moon queen
>go to nearby field full of deer sniper fags and make a turtle castle sit down
>doesn't show the soul for duplication
>fell another castle nearby
>still no soul
???
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>>484241743
run and jump away, if phase 2 keep running afterwards, easy
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WHAT THE FUCK WAS MIQUELLA SUPPOSED TO DO? HIS MOM IS RETARDED AND HE JUST WANTS TO HELP.
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both radagon and marika have vertical slit pupils
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So does the DLC fragment buffs carry over into NG+? I'm not looking forward to hunting down them again.
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>>484242612
>goes full retard shitting red skulls everywhere
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>>484241865
>Best boss
midra, messmer
>Worst boss
radahn easily
>Best area
abyssal woods, rauh (really)
>Worst area
cerulean coast
>Best addition
new weapons
>Worst addition
disjointed lore + the lack of anything for my str/int build until after the literal end of the dlc
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>>484242931
yes, and they respawn like sacred tears so it's ez to max out
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>>484242796
>I beat the game
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>>484242864
There are a few sidequests that flesh out the context for the final boss battle but it's easily missable stuff.
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>>484242875
Only the ones with bells let you dupe shardbearer remembrances.
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>>484242567
The only requirement is that the lord's soul needs to be in a body of some kind. I just don't think you want to put the soul of your lord into a Godrick Soldier and would want one of the stronger demigods esp. since we know that Radahn has access to Formless Mother magic just because it was Mohg's body

>>484242797
m8 Miquella's followers have to get in the same way that the player does what did you think the point of having Leda in the boss room was
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>int is still the strongest invader archetype, now supercharged by the second best sorcery after Comet
Basado
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>>484242894
Those are runes, Thiollier. RUNES
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>>484242996
chuddie no one cares
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>>484243031
the strongest invader right now is a swift slash spammer
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>>484242581
>retarded fanboy
get stabbed to death irl you worthless nigger.
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>>484241865
>>Worst addition
skibidi
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>>484242996
he didn't beat what you want the game to be, but he did beat the game itself
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i think im getting old and jaded

wish the bosses would not have all these flashbang effects
they are too loud too
also i want to turn camerashake to zero
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Why are most people upset with the DLC story actual morons? I don't remember this being the case for DS1-DS3 lore on the whole like this
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>>484243075
Swift slash needs you to enter melee range. Comet is just a free punishment forever.
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>>484242796
Unironically https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyFQVZ2h0V8
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>>484243003
didn't know that, cool
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>>484243172
You have not used swift slash my friend.
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>>484243172
yeah and then you instantly anime out of it before theyre out of hitstun
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So what's the deal with the three fingers? Before I just thought it was a set of fingers representing a different outer god, but now we know all the fingers come from the same place. So why the hell is it trying to end the world instead of getting people to worship the greater will? Has it been corrupted by the frenzied flame?
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>>484242724
>idk they're all fine
You're clearly retarded anon, I'm sorry.
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>>484243171
i dont know
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>>484242796
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>>484243074
>>484243141
but he literally didn't beat the game though
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>100%'d the DLC except for Radahn
>procrastinating because I know he's cancer
WAAAAAAH
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should I change weapons for Radahn? currently wielding the Ancient Meteor Blade but I feel like I could be doing even more damage
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>>484243171
compare the sales numbers
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>>484241865
>Best boss
romina
>Worst boss
all-obscuring laserbeam radahn
>Best area
shaman village
>Worst area
there aren't any bad areas
>Best addition
m'lady
>Worst addition
skibidi fragment system, just balance the game without that shit retards
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>>484242894
Im wondering whose eye those were in
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>>484242365
>Ranni adds a magic sword effect withe very attack you make
>Ranni spams Comets Azurs, Dark Moons and Night Comets
>Grab attack insta kills you with the fingerslayer blade.
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>>484243142
>flashbang effects
this is not going to stick my dude but I'm looking forward to you complaining about the UI in the next game when it's not "ergonomic"
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>>484242796
grats, my blessing was +7 when I tried yesterday and now I'm +16, trying again tomorrow.
>>484242996
your parents don't love you, faggot.
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>>484243171
It boils down to:
>Miquella character assassination
>Godwyn was expected to be final boss
>DLC doesn't really tie in to the main game despite taking place before the base game ending.
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>>484243314
he won with his friend.
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>>484243330
phase 2 has 40% damage negation across the board and high status resist. phase 1 is weak to holy and rot.
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>>484241612
Bros, I got two questions:
1. who the fuck is the gaea mentioned in gaius armor's description?
2. is the npc gank before radahn optional? I already beat them so I can't check if there was something blocking me from leaving the red sign arena.
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>>484242796
you mean we beat the game
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>>484243273
The three fingers aren't corporeal. When you meet them they're literally just made of frenzied flame shaped into a vaguely finger form. They're just a mass of flame, the shape of fingers is arbitrary, a form taken just because it's recognized as holy.
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holy lord that boss was fucking gay man
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>>484243330
you need blooddu lossu
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>was about to kill fire knight
>the mob enemy fucking heal him
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>>484241865
>best boss
midra

>worst boss
gaius easily the devs bait you into thinking its a torrent fight

>best area
cerulean coast is best looking

>worst area
abyssal woods

>best addition
metyr hammer

>worst addition
backhand blade/shotgun crossbow
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>>484243031
got any webms?
i wanna see what grav missle is like
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>>484243470
his wife presumably
ganksquad is mandatory
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>>484243470
>who the fuck is the gaea mentioned in gaius armor's description?
Just another zanzibart moment
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>>484243273
That's my headcanon at the moment. I assume it came from Metyr like everything else related to fingers. Either born disfigured or gaining a third finger when seduced by the flame of frenzy.
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>>484242891
maybe he could not send his sister to nuke a warlord's continent to fulfil his one-sided vow. if he really wanted a lord, he can go at it with his sister
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>>484242108
build/methodology my man?
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>>484243507
the game needs more shit like that desu
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>>484243470
>is the npc gank before radahn optional?
Nope but you can whittle down their numbers. Don't do Freyja's quest. Tell Moore to fuck off. Kill Hornsent. Only Dane and Leda will be your enemies.
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>>484243498
good job cutie
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>>484243002
Who's quest?
I failed a few ones but I think I completed most of the side quests there was.
Don't tell me it as motherfucking Corhyn, I lost his trace after seeing him in Leyndell.
Fuck, now that you mention it, I just rememberd that the last thing he said was something about Radhagon... FUCK.
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>>484242796
Every time I see a screenshot of this remembrance it looks like a guy laying down and jerking off with his right hand up in the air
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>>484243418
>before the base game ending
Until the ganksquad when suddenly everybody knows you're Elden Lord.
How the fuck did they even find out, anyways? Hornsent's dialogue implies Leda told him you were Marika's Lord but how would Leda have figured it out? In a literal sense all you do is exactly what she asked of you, following Miquella's footsteps like everyone else and arriving at the same place they do. There's nothing about your actions that imply you're a double agent but she just knows when it's plot convenient.
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>>484243516
>the devs bait you into thinking its a torrent fight
Only if you're a mouthbreather I guess
There isn't a single fight in either the base game or the DLC that is made easier or better by fighting the enemy on torrent. You take more damage, deal less damage and if you get knocked off torrent you eat shit on the ground for 5 whole seconds
Why anyone would even attempt to fight a boss while riding Torrent is beyond me
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>>484243516
>the devs bait you into thinking its a torrent fight
And then it is a Torrent fight as long as you try to stay behind him. I've never got the complaints about this I did it first try on my first run and I died a little bit on my second last night but it still just boils down to positioning yourself so he'll never try to toss the lance at you and getting the fuck out of the way when he uses his ash of war
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>>484243498
Radahn looks like he got the surprise anal from Ol' Miqqy
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>>484243613
>one-sided
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>>484242365
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no wonder you can use a dance pad these games are literal ddr tier
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The fact that there was no cutscene when entering the cocoon was a big clue as to what was to come with this DLC
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Does fromsoft ever playtest the fucking camera pov while fighting bosses? the fucking hippo is a nuisance.
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>>484243520
I will make some later.
Right now i'm too preoccupied with finding a new fashion for my mage
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>>484243774
>he still refuses to believe that miquella didn't mind rape his brother
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>>484243845
that's a good thing, cutscenes just make you hit the skip button for no reason, very annoying
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I cant take people seriously who think Bayle is the best DLC boss when he's a worse Midir.
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>>484243882
Yeah Miyazonko himself beat all the bosses with a zoomed in mod, RL 1 and no weapon or buffs just to prove it's not a problem.
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>>484243056
Marika's rune confirms it is the shape of her pupil. Runes visually are grace dwelling within the iris as is confirmed by leda's rune. that's why all rune centers are circular with the sole exception of marika/radagon who have a decorative vertical slit.

Marika/radagon was a snek
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>>484243710
there's something wrong with you
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>>484243712
Both Leda and Thiollier are instantly suspicious of you because your behavior does not change at all after the charm breaks, and then you try to go disturb Miquella after burning the sealing tree
Is "plot convenience" or "plot contrivance" just code for "I didn't pay attention to anything"?
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>>484243712
There's the slight matter of her being at Mogh's body after you just killed him, a demigod
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>>484243716
>>484243731
>duality of man

he would just run up beside me and the boar would shoulder thurst and one shot torrent it unavoidable on horseback he just keeps pace with you
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>>484243716
I beat him on Torrent because I wasn't going to engage with his bugged charge hitbox. I refuse to play Elden Ring like fucking Vindictus I don't care how much the devs fuck up.

Honestly he's trivial on horseback except for the phase 2 flying joust move, which is unavoidable on horseback because I guess fromsoft forgot how to design bossfights. I died to that twice and then just dismounted whenever I saw it and won. He's the worst fight of the DLC by a wide margin, basically a hopped up Tree Sentinel with flash anime moves concealing the fact that his underlying mechanics come from a developer vastly less competent.
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>>484243538
>>484243521
>we don't know shit about her
Figures. Just wanted to be sure I hadn't missed shit somewhere.

>>484243675
>Nope but you can whittle down their numbers.
Why would I want to fight less in an action game though?
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>>484243882
you're supposed to NOT lock on in those instances anon
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>>484243712
You don't need to have an ending to access the DLC which is why I assume it still takes place before the end. As for the knowing, you literally use Messmer's kindling to burn the seal and you were unfazed when the charms goes off.
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>>484243712
>WHY WAS LEDA SUSPICIOUS OF ME?!
Her entire personality is being suspicious you clod
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>>484243418
I'd expected Miquella, but reusing Radahn is just lame.
Maybe they should've gone the full Gael route and Ansbach just becomes some big angry bearded retard eating Miquella's corpse at the end.
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>>484241865
>Best boss
Bayle, mostly because of Igon's voice actor
>Worst boss
Radahn
They went all out and forgot about the frame rate issues etc. etc. etc. etc. play test your game you retarded jap dogs
>Best area
Jagged Peak mountains
>Worst area
Finger Ruins of Rhia

>Best addition
Sword of Damnation and that Black hole spell
>Worst addition
THE EMPTY FUCKING WORLD, there's nothing to loot just trash and of course the recycled enemies.
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>>484243882
The Hippo is literally
LITERALLY
A reskined DaS3 mob. You fight it the exact same way you fought it in that game. You strafe to the side, bait its slow and telegraphed turning bite and slap its shit, over and over. It has like 2 new moves and they're both slow and obvious
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After sinking 200+ hours into the game running shitty builds I started using the blasphemous blade build recently. Holy shit it melts enemies
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>>484243712
Those are vestiges of the original plot that was slightly different. A lot of the dialogue makes more sense within the context of miquella warning people about you and wanting you killed. They changed like 2-3 lines and kept everything else the same.
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>>484243996
>>484242894
that's not vertical, it's the elden ring Y shape
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>>484244096
It's still hard to see shit when it does the spinning in phase 2 while not locking on.
I am just gonna get used to that.
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>>484243912
What was Radahn's part of the vow?
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>>484243314
>literally
Uh... he got the remembrance. He beat the game.
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Peko still going, she's not sounding as optimistic as she did, kek
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>>484244191
>>Best area
>Jagged Peak mountains
>>Worst area
>Finger Ruins of Rhia
bro these are both desolate and empty atmospheric rocky areas, what the fuck did he mean by this
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>>484241865
>>Best area
>Darklight Catacombs

They did finally really well what they tried to do in DS2 aka the light/darkness thing. Very spooky place first time.
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>>484244329
He vowed to gtfo as far away from that crazy twink as physically possible
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*stamps my cute bare feet*
STOP
SUMMONING
SPIRIT ASHES!!!!!
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>>484243397
>being this vitriolic over a video game meme
You will never have sex which gives you even less of an excuse to be bad at video games
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They should have an optional DLC ending where you channel the Divine Gate power to ascend to divinity upon beating the Elden Beast, instead of becoming a Lord. It even fits the bittersweet theme as you become a God but, most likely, like Marika you just become a pawn of the Elden Beast/Metyr if she's still around
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>>484244250
Runes and rings come from the eye anon. Marika and radagon are the only non-circular ones in the game and both feature a prominent vertical slit.
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>>484243908
seluvis' creepy stepbrother
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>>484244007
After the charm breaks, Leda literally confides in you over who to murder. Her actions are not those of someone suspicious. She actually has 0 dialogue prior to the ganksquad to imply she suspects you of anything. None.
>you try to disturb miquella
Says who? You're following Miquella's footsteps the same as you have been, and they lead you to where every single other member of the party is waiting. Why is it suspicious that you enter the sealing chamber but not suspicious that Hornsent, whom Leda just tried to kill, is there? Or the bug man? Or Freyja?

It's not text just because you made it up in your head to fill the plot holes, anon. Liking something a whole lot doesn't remove its flaws.
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>>484244465
My wife Ranni gave me that bell so I'm gonna use it.
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>okina was at the festival under miquella's orders
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>>484244392
>jagged peak mountains has 3 boss fights
>best npc in the game
>some lore
>looks amazing
let's see what Ruins of Rhia has
>space maggots
wooah
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>>484244350
Wheres the achievement saying he beat the game then?
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>>484244606
and not just because he wanted to do a murder? i dunno man
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>>484244634
Sennesux is not a positive quality to have
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They should have made Ranni a summon for radahn if you did her ending.

It would have been nice to free her brother from mind control with her.
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>>484244329
Endless warfare
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>>484244503
>you just become a pawn of the Elden Beast/Metyr
What does this actually mean? St. Trina said the same thing but what are your obligations as a god?
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>>484244634
>jagged peak mountains has 3 boss fights
one of them is a reused drake
the other is one of the worst bosses in both the base game and DLC
the other is Bayle
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>>484244634
I wish more areas were like Jagged Peaks, big, empty but a boss rush.
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>>484244634
you didn't do the quest? did you at least get sniped by the pink magic and then teleported onto?
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>>484244473
Considering you got so butthurt over a duo male boss fight I've concluded that you've got daddy issues.
Please seek help.
Also I lost my anal virginity at 17.
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Just beat Bayle and God was that a nightmare.
The openings are so tight and even the smallest bit of greed fucks you.
The second phase attack where he shoots beams of fire across the ground required me to unlock my camera so I could actually see the fire spread across the ground to dodge it.
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>>484244606
Actually kind of mind blowing when you think about it
>Mohg originally had his loyal order of Pureblood Knights
>the leader suspects Miquella and confronts him, Miquella has to charm him
>now has to find a replacement to do his bidding in the Lands Between
>goes after tarnished, recruiting them into Bloody Fingers and sending them to do his dirtywork by proxy of Mohg
The "madness" Yura spoke of was Miquella's charms all along. Even the woman he loved was stolen from him.
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>summon in as phantom for radahn
>hes edge walking towards host
>im running towards radahn
>he does his spinny jump attack
>dodge as always do
>he hits slightly behind me going for the host apparently
>the slightly delayed AoE wave hits me and instagibs me for 2000 damage with 70% DR across the board
well okay then
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>>484244726
Miquella has an extra pair of arms in him. He became a vessel
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>>484244634
>3 boss fights
2 of them are shitty base game bosses. The jagged peaks are great for the atmosphere alone though
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are the shadow creatures just commoners? even the necromancers one are just reskinned skeletons?
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>FF:CotW - B. Jenet
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Man, DLC Radahn is such a garbage boss.
Okay, let him shit AoEs all over the screen after every attack, whatever. But his gravity fowl dance is absolutely bullshit.
Also, that retarded attack pattern where he starts with his left hand is impossible to avoid the follow-up if you dodge the first swing. It just abuses the frame data to rollcatch you. Which, again, whatever, I guess, you can trade with him, just use the flasks as a resource. But during the second phase it becomes a real issue, because not only the second swing rollcatches you then, but also a billion ticks of follow-up AoE too. Meaning your'e stunlocked to death.
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>>484244691
The DLC happens as if you haven't beaten the game
Considering the fact that Ranni's ending has you fly off into space with her to kill space niggers there's no way the DLC could take place post her ending
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>finally reach Messmer
>start to enjoy the fight
First enjoyable boss fight so far.
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>>484244753
>the quest
blow the horn? yea it was riveting but did we really need such a massive zone for a horn?
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>>484243171
People who either didn't learn to temper their expectations after previous DLCs or are new to the series with ER and didn't realise that the DLCs are never really about what you expect and don't answer the obvious questions.
The final boss just being Radahn again is kind of disappointing though.
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>>484244901
use a shield
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>ymir gives me the third map
>go do what he asked
>this is bad for some reason and jolán attacks me
why?
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>>484244795
I died to the beam like 6 times before I realized what was hitting me was a wave of fire across the ground. It's literally invisible if you're looking up because the VFX is FLAT. ITS FUCKING FLAT. I was so mad when I realized, and I got him the very next attempt.
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>>484241865
>Best boss
BAAAAYLE, Midra's a close second with his baller ass music
>Worst boss
Skibidi sunflower, it died way too quickly since I was testing the dread talisman for an updated magma wyrm build at the time I ran across it.
>Best area
Shadowkeep
>Worst area
Fucking Rauh ancient ruins. The designer of that shithole can choke on a barrel of dicks.
>Best addition
Fire knight's greatsword, people whining about the true combo of a grand total of two hits can suck me long and strong like. Beast claws are a close second.
>>Worst addition
Swift slash by a country mile, I don't know what anime brained homunculus came up with that but they need to be both fired and violently raped in the back alleys of Kabukichō
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>>484244795
it's a good fight, there are a few more openings than it seems
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>>484244503
I don't think you'll become pawn of the Elden Beast but you do lose yourself as seen by Miquella.
>>484244726
Marika, despite being a God herself, became a willing pawn to the Greater Will because it's probably a stronger God. We dunno the exact duties but you probably give graces and blessing to people devout to you in exchange for their loyalty and prayers.
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>>484244853
A vessel for what? Radahn's dick?
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>Beings made of fingers
>Their story is about them desperately reaching out to try and touch god
Yeah, I'm thinking kino.
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>>484244571
>I've come to a realization...
>There's ample evidence... Without Kindly Miquella's influence...
>I'm quite mistrustful of others
How do you not see this a mile away?
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>>484244901
barricade shield or suffer
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>>484244915
No you are literally called Lord by Miquella and every member of Leda's troupe.
The DLC happens after you beat the game but is specifically tied to the Elden Lord ending because they couldn't be fucked to record dialogue variations.
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>Summon Millicent and Blackguard for the magma wyrm fight because why not?
>They give it a huge HP boost, do next to no damage and die to the floor lava before the boss reaches 70% HP
pretty funny not gonna lie
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>>484244571
That's a load of nonsense, both of those characters chalk it up to your personality when it happens but that's literally when the seeds of doubt are sewn.
>Says who
Leda, literally reread her dialogue, she knows you're not stopping there
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>>484244927
yes, you're summoning cthulhu in the middle of the cyclopean architecture, you're supposed to feel like you're in an alien world and then connect that to all of the other instances of finger shit in the game, especially the base game, so that it all feels even more alien and so that you feel more justified in opposing the meddling fingers
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you use a shield because you need one
I wear a shield because it makes my guy look cooler even though I dont use it
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>>484244762
>bringing up daddy issues out of nowhere again
>considering your so "butthurt"
>I lost my anal virginity at 17
Anon I'm not your fucking therapist I don't know you've singled me out to cry for help. I'm sorry he did that to you or whatever, you still didn't beat the game
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>>484243654
sit in a doorway/hallway then press L2 when they try to approach it someone is dying in collateral
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Be honest, Anons. If you were called to return to a land you were exiled from where everything wants you dead, what would you do?
>burn everything to the ground
>curse everything to the ground
>show compassion to skeletons and zombies (who also want you dead btw)
>join up with a doll, one of the few friendly faces in these lands, who also gives you a magic sword
>just blindly follow the grace and become a (basic) lord
>no you cannot do goldmask ending because unless you literally have mensa Einstein IQ irl, it's pretty much impossible to do on a first blind playthrough
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>50k likes
https://x.com/MunstaMasta/status/1806695334510219698
Was Miyazaki wrong in not including base game shit in?
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>>484245068
She says this after musing loudly about how she wants to murder the Horn man, anon. Yes, she's paranoid. But she doesn't confront us out of paranoia. She confronts us because she is certain without a shadow of a doubt that we are the Elden Lord following the will of Marika to stop Miquella's apotheosis.
How did she learn these very specific details?
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>>484245068
to be fair, Leda has a lot loose screws so it isn't crazy to think she might've gotten too paranoid over you.
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>>484244838
I always thought Miquella was the most sisniter of the demigods due to everyone talking so highly of him. Its crazy how deep his corruption goes
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>>484242359
cause
listen up heres a story about a little (girl) who lives in a blue world and all day and all night everything (s)he sees is just blue like (her) inside and outside blue this house with a blue little window-
https://youtu.be/68ugkg9RePc
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>>484245183
i think blocking is fun
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Is there a way to not get pulled in by Radahn's gravity bullshit or do you just have to guess when he's gonna do it and run to the other fucking side of the arena before he does it?
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>>484245183
I use a shield because it gives me bonus stamina recovery
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>>484244984
Ymir didn't really think the situation through properly and didn't anticipate you and Metyr coming to blows. The fact that you won likely sent him over the edge and led to him having some delusional fit about becoming to new finger mommy. Jolan, loyal dog that she was, blames you.
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>>484245287
>>484245287
I use the haligtree shield because it looks nice on my paladin and guard counters are fucking awesome.
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>>484241612
I look like this
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>>484245287
I enjoy guard counters
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>>484245207
what talismans?
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fought what i think is the first boss, do people really say that magic shit is cheesey? I feel like the summons ive been given were a bit too strong so I just fought him with the carian slicer.
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>>484245210
>>join up with a doll, one of the few friendly faces in these lands, who also gives you a magic sword
This one because I wanna be happy too if I became Elden Lord. Other endings just seem like a chore/work when you become Elden Lord. This is prolly why Ranni's ending is the most popular.
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what crucible aspects are worth using if you don't have much faith? NONE?
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>>484245225
>no Melina invasion boss
yes, we were robbed.
but, it leaves the option of a SECOND dlc to tie everything up including SOTE
its not over yet snake
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>>484245250
She says this after you've killed hornman actually and she has her eyes on Ansbach. It's clear her character is just finding excuses to remove members of the band one by one.
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>>484245250
Miquella told her
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From all my research, I can safely say that STR mains would be like Jeremy Clarkson when it comes to farming
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>>484245351
jolán attacks you before you even meet metyr, though.
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>>484245417
Damaging spells are never worth using unless you have all-in invested in the stat that scales their damage. It has always been like this.
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>>484245326
you can react to it and roll to dodge
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>>484245417
lol they suck with faith
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>>484245326
Just roll it
It hits sooner than you think but you can just roll the initial pull
Roll it away from him otherwise he'll just do the followup anyways and fuck you
>>484245497
That's not Jolan that's another knight learn to read anon
You can even talk to Jolan about the other knight attacking you and what you found under the throne
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>>484245394
magic is the least easy mode in ER it's ever been due to the prevalence of enemies having ranged attacks and gapclosers. especially at early levels.
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you shouldn't run away from the phase 2 opening AoE I think
with Marika's hair and everything else it barely does a quarter and you can get multiple hits in before and after the explosion instead of wasting time
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>>484245497
No, she only attacks you afterwards. You're attack by the other one before that, Anna was it?
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>>484245497
Anna attacks you.

>>484245591
Yes, that attack is actually a huge bait.
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>>484245475
Yes, offscreen and it's never mentioned.
Plot convenience.
Furthermore, if Miquella regarded you as a threat he could have warned Leda at any one of the footprints he left behind instead of waiting until the 11th hour. Like literally "I abandon here my arm dextral THE TARNISHED IS ELDEN LORD STOP HIM"
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>>484245587
>magic is the least easy mode in ER
i won't use magic because I hate scrolling through spells lmao
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>>484245326
I assume you mean the 100ft gravity pull he does in the og fight too you just roll it like all other gravitas type moves.
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Fextralife really hates Messmer's set I thought it's neat
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>>484245584
>>484245630
my bad anons.
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>>484245394
People say casting is cheesy because you can safely damage bosses from far away, that doesn't apply to carian slicer though. I wouldn't worry about it for a first playthrough
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>>484245417
crucible incants suck total dick. the only remotely usable one is the firebreath in pvp because it's very tough for enemies to dodge.
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>>484245591
You can literally just iframe the explosion, too.
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>>484245210
Fuck it, burn it all. If people want to be dickasses to me for just existing then I'm going to take the Ghandi approach and escalate straight to the nuclear option.
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>>484245675
if you're being optimal, the vast majority of the game you do only with slicer and one other damage spell which is usually magic glintblade
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>>484245492
I don't know what you mean but i'm laughing anyway cause I've seen that show
>>484245679
*OR just let him hit you anyway so you can get close for something tasty like a fully charged wrath of gold or black flame tornado or something.
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>>484245408
you're gonna be stuck with her on the moon for 1000 years. you better be prepared. although judging from her mother and aunt, carian women are crazy lovers
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>>484245492
he's not a great farmer but he's a great representation of how much red tape and stupid shit they have to go through in the uk
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>>484245749
The new thorn one is unironically good too. It's basically a shotgun of fan daggers and almost undodgeable, but does real damage and shrinks your hitbox enough to juke a lot of things.
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I wonder what the build would be to do the DLC with 0 scadu blessings
obviously removing rolling sparks from the picture
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>>484245913
ongbal mode
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So Trina being female was wrong right
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>>484245392
bullgoat, flock's, madness exaltation, shard
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>>484245902
in pvp i assume because the pve damage is ass
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>>484245394
magic is generally easier because you still have plenty of very effective melee weapons, same as any melee build, but you ALSO get incredibly ranged option.
but yeah, a lot of bosses are capable of chasing you down well, so you may not be able to abuse the ranged options in boss fights as much as in previous games
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The flying crucible ash of war is fucking sick, I've got it on Milady right now as sacred, are there any better options?
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>>484245816
are melee sorceries actually better than int weapons?
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>>484245998
st trina is probably miquella's other self, like radagon and marika
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>>484245408
yet another simp who just straight ignoring that she tells you she intends to "abandon you oops I let too much slip in this actual small doll form, you beat astel and found my ring ok ill marry you I guess"

I do not understand it.
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>>484245913
i've been doing it on str with a bit of fth and it hasn't been too bad. mostly greatshield and big weapon, i've been switching it up. like i used deflect and maliketh sword for metyr since you can safely get in a skill use when you get a stagger.
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>>484246019
Idk porcupine is a weird trading tool. It gets retard hyperarmor and does okayish dmg if you shotgun someoen with it at point blank range but the second you get any range it'll do so little dmg. I figured it would be better in pve but honestly I think it's just worse than the tail and shoulder bash.
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>>484246036
It does better on twinblades, best to simply leave it on the twinblade it came with and spec it to either holy or flame art depending on your intentions.
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>>484245806
Bro, you'll kill your horse!
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>>484245913
cold star fists or black flame.
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>>484245998
no trina is the female part of the miquella trina rebis, if you don't know what a rebis is google it or watch the castlevania anime until you know what a rebis is.
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is radahn weak to rot
can i use the scorpion woman's weapon against him
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starting a family of weird lunar demigods with ranni in preparation for elden ring's sequel
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>>484246121
You earn Rannis love by proving yourself to her, of course she doesn't intend to marry you the second she meets you
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>>484246121
>being this much of a dense motherfucker
No wonder you don't have a gf lmao. The DLC tells us that Carian women are loyal lovers.
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Night sister puppets any good or should I just get the katana
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>>484246079
they are a sidegrade, for raw dps, slicer is unique among melee weapons in that its combo never ends until you run out of stamina and fp and can be started and stopped faster than wild strikes or spinning strikes. moonblade 2 or 3 shots most pve enemies and the frost knocks them out of what they're doing.

there are many other skills that do great damage such as death's poker, dmgs, waves of darkness.

early game base damage is king and a cold weapon will outdo whatever spell you have, just use that until you hit around 60 int.
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>>484246265
>rebis
I'm well aware what a Rebis is anon don't doubt me
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>>484246364
Dolls can't get pregnant.
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>>484245913
I'm almost done my 0 scadu run and I don't think I would have endured as anything other than arcane. More than just status effect damage to make successful runes take less than 10 minutes, the fact that I can swap some gear around to become a caster on demand is a game-changer. I could use Discus of Light to kill undead dragons, become a strength build to stagger the Putrescent Knight to death, parry death knights, use a quick dagger to poke Messmer during all of his delayed windups, and use a big fuckstick to whack Bayle's head when it would've otherwise been out of reach.
I don't think any other build has the same breadth of tools and options.
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>>484245210
>join up with a doll, one of the few friendly faces in these lands
>go to space
and then
>curse everything to the ground
fuck em, give them a slow painful existence of suffering and stagnation whilst i indulge in doll pussy on my spacestation or whatever
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>>484246265
>have to understand medieval alchemy to fully grasp elden ring
I fucking hate Miyazaki
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>>484246240
He knew the risks when he chose me. Clearly if I was chosen to be his rider he wanted to help carry me to the nuke.
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Dark Souls 1/DLC - rather dreamlike atmosphere
Dark Souls 2 - melancholic journey of a lone traveller
Crown of the Sunken King - Indiana Jones of Dark Souls
Crown of Old Iron King - violent cold brutalism
Crown of the Ivory King - devs trolling
Dark Souls 3 - Decay made epic
Painted World - devs burnt out a little
Ringed City - very well thought out culmination of everything above
Elden Ring - one of the best cultural works of 21st century
Shadow of the Erdtree - action movie adaptation in Dark Souls universe (everybody was kung-fu fightin') with art style of Elden Ring
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For me it's Lightning Milady with Blinkbolt. AoW into r2-r1 is cool but Blinkbolt is tricky to use because it has no iframes on start-up so you need to measure your distance carefully because you actually want to overshoot the opponent and get behind them in the midst of their attacking (you are totally invul in lightning form). It's like a more tactful Bloodhound Step with a little chip damage.
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this flower has no business being this heavy
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Crackpot theory, there is nothing to indicate that Marika was even an Empyrean which would mean in order to become a god she had to become an empyrean. Per the jar lore Shaman flesh is good at combining with other flesh, Marika was a shaman, what if she fuckin absorbed the Hornsent Empyrean in order to steal divinity from the hornsent. It would also explain why she has omen children.
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yo cuz this pvp is BUSSIN frfrfr ong
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>>484242567
cut dialogue from the crone genuinely seems to explain it, as intentionally vague and near-useless as their dialogue is. mohg had some means of traversing the fog.
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>>484224607
Does it work on the big fuckoff cone of fire?
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AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE I'M GOING INSANE BECAUSE OF THAT FUCKER
RADAHN YOU CUNT
FUCK YOU
I feel like I can't even deal damage in the second phase, I get so much chip damage from the light even if I dodge attacks themselves, that I need to use all the openings to heal
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I don't get the frenzy lore.
Sometimes it seems to sacrifice yourself to save the ones you love, other times it seems tobe about killing literally everything.
Those seem like polar opposites to me.
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>>484246079
and death ritual spear forgot that one
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Reminder to invest in throwing knives.
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>>484246369
reminder she also says "tell blaidd and iji I love them" but lets them die because killing the fingers she already completely evaded since the shattering was more important to her
>>484246394
fuck you
>>484246431
okie dokie fellow noita
>>484246476
you don't have to understand it just like, look at the ripley scrolls and "oh now I get it" (doesn't get it at all) like they're a map for elden rings lore and characters. or rather alchemy itself is a map to, what I just said.
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>>484246446
NOT WITH THAT ATTITUDE!
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>>484246565
>what if we just made great spears again
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>>484246402
yeah they are good. don't upgrade it before you combine the puppets because that causes a bug where upgrades do nothing apparently
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>>484246556
you're probably wrong but i love what this implies anon
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>>484246646
It’s both because the FF is manipulative
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>>484246634
The safest way to fight him is ironically glued right next to his model while strafing. But you're gonna have to train those reactions to dodge his attacks from point blank. That said, it almost entirely avoids the annoying AoE if you dodge the initial swings.
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>>484246646
The goal of the frenzy flame is to destroy everything and end creation. It's a doomsday cult.
Saving Melina is a honeytrap that Shabriri dangles in front of you, to lure you into becoming the lord of frenzy. It's a deception, because it's easier to trick you than to convince you that all creation should end (it should).
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>>484246779
this desu
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TIME TO ANSWER A VERY IMPORTANT LORE QUESTION
https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4dk2Kga
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>>484246669
Why do cool stuff like that always do such low dmg
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>>484246513
>no demon's souls
>no bloodborne
absolutely peak secondary

>>484246556
or she merged with something else that was already a god, like a snekk
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>>484246513
I thought the devs trolling part of 2 was sunken like you didn't get enough of the poison areas in the base game here is a fucking poison dragon I liked fume tower, mostly.

and shadow of the erdtree is the dark souls of elden ring.
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>>484246556
Anon...
>Maliketh was a shadowbound beast given to his Empyrean. Marika's sole need of her shadow was a vessel to lock away Destined Death.
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>>484246867
Because I'm RL60+12 and only had 3 skibidi upgrades at that point.
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>>484246646
It's baiting you with the idea of saving your maiden. The Frenzy Flame is the collective unconscious chaos formed into an outer god that tends towards entropy, the opposite of the Greater Will which birthed life, souls and individuality, which is order that opposes the collectivity of primordial chaos. It just wants to end everything, don't get baited lmao.
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>>484246846
Fia's will kill you
Malenia's will kill you slowly
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Crucible armour has the best holy resist right? I'm at 72% reduction but this rascal is still eating me alive
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>>484246846
>fia in the lead
fucking kek.
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>>484246669
I'm not sure how the staggers work exactly, but knives do seem to help with it a lot. I think it only starts regenerating on enemies if they don't take damage for a few seconds, so the knives help with that.
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>>484241865
>Best boss
Replans and it’s not close.
>Worst boss
Radahn and it’s not close.

>Best area
Shadow Keep
>Worst area
Abyssal Woods

>Best addition
Great katanas
>Worst addition
Scuba tree fragments
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>radahn second attempt
>get him all the way down to radahn in the lifebar, big hype
>heart stolen, dead from full health
What the fuck is this bullshit Imma kill you mike zaki you stupid turd.
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>>484247117
You jinxed it.
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>>484241612
Does anyone have that comic with miquella and godwyn that almost perfectly predicted the DLC final boss?
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>>484245408
>>484246475
you forgot that said doll is one of the reasons why everything wants you dead
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>>484247189
you will never be japanese
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>kill radahn with greatshield + poke
>his death animation plays
>suddenly snaps back to normal and he puts my character in a grab animation but he's just resting his hand on my shoulder
>slowly walks me back across the arena while explaining the fundamentals of trade patterns and punish windows
>after leaving the fog wall he tells me this so I don't "rob myself" and goes back through
>FAITH RESTORED plays over my screen

thanks radahn, now I know!
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>>484246846
my reaction after nutting in both
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>>484247158
Fight the skibidi sunflower for the rune fragment and throw it in your bar. It nullifies the sissy hypnowaves.
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the moment I see a host or a phantom with antspur and shield im leaving world once they enter the fog
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What the fuck are the forager brood? Ansbach mentions them and I assumed they were going to be merchants scattered around the DLC, like a replacement for the gypsy merchants, but then there's not really anything else about them beyond that. Is Moore a forager brood or just a dude who knows them? Does the verdigris armor desc mean they're little shoggoth things associated with an outer god?
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>>484247158
>getting hit by the most telegraphed grab in the game
>twice
Your dodge roll, bro?
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>>484246531
Honestly it's annoying. I'm forced to being a poiseblob to avoid the hordes of blinkbolt milady r1 spammers
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>>484247126
>Replans
Who
>Great katanas
Moveset feels janky as fuck to me.
But I love dragonslayer katana special skill, ez access to dragon heads.
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>WORRY NOT, MY FAIR PRINCESS, OH MY FAIR MAIDEN HOSTCLITTY. IT IS I, MARVEL_ANIME_TRANSGENDER_RESPECTOR_69420 THAT SHALL DEFEND YOU FROM THIS EVIL, TRANSPHOBIC, XENOPHOBIC, FAR-RIGHT FASCIST INVADER CHUD
>DO NOT SULLY YOUR HANDS MY MAIDEN FOR I SHALL BANISH THIS EVIL FUCKING NAZI TRUMP SUPPORTING CHUD GOD I FUCKING HATE HIM SO MUCH FROM OUR WORL-ACKCKCKCK
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>>484246846
Malenia only has 1 lethal STD, but it's extremely lethal.
Fia probably has every STD known to men, and then some.
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>>484247049
are you stacking pearldrake AND haligdrake+atleast2ifnot3 AND opal physic tear AAANNNDDD lords divine protection? with your armor?
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>>484241865
>Best Boss
Messmer
>Worst Boss
Mother of Fingers

>Best Area
Ancient Ruins of Rauh
>Worst Area
The Finger Ruins

>Best Addition
Throwable Weapons
>Worst Addition
None
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>>484247189
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>>484247204
That's already a given if you choose any of the endings. Nearly everyone and everything in the Lands Between wants to kill you.
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>>484246846
Fia can wipe out about 2 dozens during a night of hard "work"
Malenia can wipe out a continent with a queef.
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>>484247413
pearldrake is a waste of a slot always
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>>484247298
I just realized that I can finally be a full tips fedora redditor with muh lady
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>>484247186
I guess Fia asked her champions to sway the vote.
>>484247367
>every STD known to men
And dogs, and dragons, and demihumans, and revenants, and...
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>>484241865
>Best boss
Midra
>Worst boss
Radahn

>Best Area
Abyssal Woods, I wish it was bigger though
>Worst Area
Rauh Ruins, all of it

>Best addition
Attack and defense talismans, more options are always good
>Worst addition
Almost all sorceries/incants, they aren't even real options
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>>484242365
99 Strength
99 Dex
99 Int
99 Faith
Could ANYONE stop him?
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>>484247158
you are now gay
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Does the magma talisman boost the magma blade and wyrm scalesword ashes of war?
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Si what is putresence? Why does it look exactly like Mimic tears?
Is it the same thing?
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>>484246646
the frenzy flame wants to kill everything because the sheer amount of misery in the world drove it to madness. it doesn't care about causing more misery because it plans to melt it all away in the end anyway.
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>there are people who think mohg was redeemed as if he wasn't the leader of a cult of serial killers
what the fuck was ainsbach simping for?
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>>484241865
>Best boss
Midra easily, not even a contest. Messmer as a close second.
>Worst boss
Radahn.

>Best area
Enir-Ilim but mostly because the aesthetic design is the most original in the DLC. In terms of actual level design it's one of the frozen gaols or Specimen Storeroom.
>Worst area
Abyssal Woods or Cerulean Coast. Both were huge letdowns.

>Best addition
Light Greatswords, throwables, weapons with more unique movesets, even if they are underpowered in PvE and PvP alike, and better accessibility to consumables and more unique consumables and items.
>Worst addition
Backhand Blades as a whole, spells that are broken garbage and don't do what they're advertised to do like Midra's spell, spells they clearly didn't even bother to playtest.
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>>484247118
>I think it only starts regenerating on enemies if they don't take damage for a few seconds, so the knives help with that
Yeah that's exactly right. Also helps with baiting out attacks when the boss decides they're just gonna edgewalk at you. Ralva there in particular will stagger if you hit him square in the head, which is easier than you'd think.
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>>484247528
Papa Nurgle's cutest devotee
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>>484247453
This would've been so much better
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>>484247268
>skibidi sunflower for the rune fragment
Uh I didn't even notice he dropped that shit, I just burst to the roundtable to redeem the remembrance.

>>484247292
My nigger in christ, grabs are by far my biggest weakness in this kind of games.
I get rekt by them constantly. CONSTANTLY
>heart stolen death got me a gesture
Mikey is fucking mocking me. Actually kinda based of him, still hope an earthquake swallows him.
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>>484247453
Perfect, thanks.
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did STDs even exist like they do now back then? somewhat genuine question like I know hiv straight up did not exist until something changed and thats 1900s, a bit like cancer rates skyrocketing after the invention of mains electricity or nuclear testing no ones quite sure which and no ones going to turn off the power now.

>>484247461
it stacks though so its not pointless. unlike the 4 different physical ones and the only good one is in a "optional" area.
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>Best boss
Golden Hippo or Boar rider guy
>Worst boss
Messmer

>Best area
The second castle
>Worst area
Swamp as always

>Best addition
Armors
>Worst addition
Boss tankiness
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>>484247603
I think it's dead flesh given life through Trina's power. How? I have no idea, but that's the implication.
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>Radahn second phase
I'm too flabbergasted to be mad. Who approved this?
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>>484247456
>beat Rennala
>she spends the rest of her days chilling in the library and calls me a sweeting, and offers to respec. 100% no hard feelings at all
Best boss
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>>484247000
yeah but, she wasn't born an empyrean she became one at some point.
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>>484247296
Auto correct changed Rellana to Replans.
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>>484247585
works on anything that makes or uses magma
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>>484242365
>parries you
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every host and summon at radahn right now
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>>484247296
>Moveset feels janky as fuck to me
It's because the moveset is straight out of MH
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>>484247290
moore is part of the forager brood
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>>484241612
>Reused base game enemies: dogs, bats, rats/giant rats, shadow commoners/necromancers, skeletal slimes, miranda sprouts, vulgar militiamen, golems, fingercreepers, 1st gen albinauric, trolls, misbegotten crusader, demihumans and misbegottens, silver tears
>Reused bosses: Ancient Dragons, Drakes, Tibia mariner, Tree sentinel, Magma Wyrm, Deathbird, Demihuman Queen, Putrid Tree Spirits, Fallingstar Beast
>Show up as a boss and as an enemy: Black Knights, Hippopotamus, Demi-Human Swordsmaster, Curseblade Labirinth, Chief Bloodfiend
>Show up more than once: Divine Beast Dancing Lion, Death Knight, Ghostflame Dragons, Great Red Bears
>Invaders/Player characters but as bosses: Ancient Dragon-Man, Blackgaol Knight, Red Bear, Dryleaf Dane, Dancer of Ranah, Rakshasa

>Gravesite Plains has: Messmer Soldiers, Black Knights, Curseblades, Bloodfiends, Man-flies, Blue worms, Gravebirds, Inquisitors, Furnace Golems
>Belurat: Spider Scorpion, Horned Warrior, Weird commoners now cast magic and use Butchering Knifes
>Belurat Gaol: Mutated Prisoner

Genuinely tell me. What other unique enemies there are that don't show up in Gravesite Plains/Belurat?
>Fire Knights
>Fat fuck (Enir-llim)
>Shaman that throws magic on your feet (Enir-llim)
>Divine Beast helmet knights (Enir-llim)
>Lamprey
>Winter Lanterns
>Crucible Knight Devonia
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>>484247654
tbf our character is a serial killer, our potential wife conspired to assassinate the crown prince and our magic teacher bullies the mentally retarded
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>>484247803
Replans, Twin Moon Knight
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>>484247735
>>Best boss
>Golden Hippo or Boar rider guy
>>Worst boss
>Messmer
What a bizarrely incorrect opinion, why would you think that?
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>>484247716
Yes, syphilis especially has been a fuck in the old world for thousands of years and iirc was the go to STD in medieval Europe.
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>>484247824
>summons using mimic tear,?
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>Spirit Sword and Spirit Glaive are both unbelievably shitty
WHY?!
H
Y
?
!
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>>484247804
Neat. probably still not worth the talisman slot but good to know ig
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>>484247561
I can think of one contender but it'll be a close match
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>>484247561
>10 vigor
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>look it up
>dread talisman works on taker's flames
well well well those magma effects weren't just for show
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>>484247296
>Moveset feels janky as fuck to me.
Because it's a thin blade and most of its attacks are slashing attacks that cover very little area with a tiny hitbox so it feels like you're just constantly whiffing
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>>484247158
>he got made gay
Man Radahn killed me countless times over a period of multiple hours but I can proudly say I was never given the gay.
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>>484247716
Yeah, syphilis has been around for a long ass time.
STDs have always existed but under different names than we would recognize now.
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get fucked thanks for the weapon pfffttttt
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>>484247861
I just didn’t have fun fighting him. He flails around too much
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>>484247824
to be fair you get 7 flasks as a summon and the boss has almost 3x HP if there are two player summons. If a host is summoning it means they cant win and it's basically impossible to guarantee the hosts success if you can't tank for them.

Even if you're a god at the fight the host will still fuckin find a way to die
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>>484247656
abyssal is worse than cerulean coast, the ladder at least had content. abyssal is just a 10-20 minute slog to a boss fight.
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>>484247716
after equipping phys def and element def talisman, another few % of protection are vastly outdone by other defensive talismans, namely crimson seed +1 and twin turtle
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>>484246846
Malenia carries a far worse disease inside her, may Marika forgive me for uttering this word but she is a fujoshit
Also, Fia has cute feet, Malenia doesn't even have feet
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>>484247763
You rike?
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>>484247716
>>484247868
Wait no I just double checked that I'm a fucking idiot ignore me, syphilis got brought back from the Americas not the other way around.
There was definitely some fucking thing that people were aware of in medieval Europe and wary of catching from prostitutes but I can't remember which specifically it was.
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>>484247978
love this weapon its just so fuckin cool
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>>484247603
people can't die, even once they've broken down into rotten sludge. st. trina gave that sludge respite through sleep, which earned its love and loyalty.
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>>484248140
Either this is a lie or Miyazaki cheeses his own games.
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>boss gets to wield gravity magic, light magic, earthquake stomps, mind control hugs and a billion other bullshit
>but when I use a slab of stone to cover from attacks, suddenly it's easy mode cheating didn't beat the game
It's not fair
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i'd still fuck Fia silly honestly, shes hot, and it seems like shes had a hard life with the persecution of her sex cult I mean honorable death comforters
undeath doesn't bother me, we the tarnished were dead before being revived it says so in the intro (O ye tarnished ye DEAD who yet live)
>>484248151
leprasy? (spelling mistake) basically doesn't exist anymore but they wouldn't shut up about it in the bible.
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>>484248151
They've actually found bones with signs of syphilis in Europe that predate the first trips to the Americas (not counting vikings)
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>>484248048
> f a host is summoning it means they cant win
Maybe they could if they tried a little harder and didn't give up so easily
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>>484248275
He probably just levels to like 200+ because the bosses become significantly easier when you have a ton of VIG/STAM/Mainstat
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>>484248310
You respawn, they don't. You can learn from what they do and carry that knowledge to the next encounter, they can't
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>>484247716
Depends how far back you mean, the clap came from european colonisation and rape of south americans, syphilis only came around after the fall of the roman empire. the ancient world had far far less STDs than we do
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>>484248430
>leveling up is cheating
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Mmm I don't like the Dancing Lion guy. Long ass combos and then I get one hit by so many stuff. I can only dodge roll so much until I mistime his frost breath attack or whatever he takes out of his pockets.
AAAAAAAA I DON'T WANT TO SEARCH FOR MORE SKIBIDITREE PIECES, ITS TEDIOUS, WHY NOT JUST SCALE THE BOSSES PROPERLY
It's that or I git gud and I only take the minor damage hits like from him just moving around
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>>484248275
DSP beat Sekiro it's not unbelievable Miyazaki did it too
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I've come to the realization that DS3>Elden ring

Friede>Malenia
Manus>Bayle
Gael>Radahn

thoughts?
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>>484248463
Maybe he should pray to his mom to respawn him then. It's not my fault his mom is sopping wet for me
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>>484248564
agree
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>>484248151
It's probably Chlamydia, that shit's older than our species IIRC.
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>>484248541
i killed him with raptor of the mists jump attack spam
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>>484247716
The reason so many diseases 'appeared' in the 20th century is because modern medicine came into being late in the 19th century, and our means of tracking and identify causes of death and pathology has developed enormously since then.
Before then, people died of "a broken heart" or a whole spectrum of supernatural reasons (ie heart attacks being attributed to fairy archers) in what we can probably infer in hindsight were maladies that we know and understand today. But we can't know for certain because we can't exactly screen ancient remains for their cause of death--autopsies are time sensitive. Though we can be certain that cancer existed long before modernity, because calcified tumours can be found both on human and animal remains from long before we split the atom or moved electrons. There's a survivorship bias in modern disease tracking because obviously if we compare data from before we tracked data to now, we see the rates go from zero to median--that's not an upward trend. Similarly we know that diseases like cancer become exponentially more likely to be a cause of death as you age, thus increasing rates of mortality attributed to cancer can also cleanly be mapped onto curves tracking the increased average live expectancy over time--more people die to cancer because fewer are dying to other things, but everyone eventually dies to something.


But yes STDs were very much a thing going back eons. We know because some leave anthropological evidence, and others because they were so endemic that there's a wealth of personal writing describing the symptoms.
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>>484248541
You don't take damage from him moving around though. Pro tip - jump all the rotating breaths
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>>484248564
ds3 didnt grip me its unironically too easy I didnt even die until the 5th? boss.
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>>484247840
>It's because the moveset is straight out of MH
Ah yes, I remember seeing that webm but I had forgotten about it.
Fucking hell I've hated ls in every mh game I played, now it's following me into other series.

>>484247968
>Because it's a thin blade and most of its attacks are slashing attacks that cover very little area with a tiny hitbox
I think the biggest issue is that most attacks land off center, so you need to unlock and free aim if you wanna hit shit.
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>>484248564
boss wise yes but ds3's levels are shit outside lothric castle and the cathedral
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>>484248564
>DS3>Elden ring
no
>Friede>Malenia
>Manus>Bayle
>Gael>Radahn
yes on all 3 accounts
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>omenkillers inputread takers flame to dodge it
lel
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>>484247894
Same face I made when I found out that Light Greatswords were in-fact shitty because they do as much poise damage as a 1h thrusting sword.
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are there any torches better than the animal tamer?
pulling it out and walking past wild animals who would normally attack you is great
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Why do a lot if Radahns animations still feel like he has the horse under him?
Am I just going crazy oe did they like reuse some of the same animations but just without the horse? It looks kinda goofy
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>>484248564
ds3 is ugly and boring with good "feel"
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Scadubidoowop blessings don't respect the player's time. There, I said it.
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>>484242359
She had red hair in her original body, went for the colour on the opposite end of the spectrum.
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>all these ashes of war
>only useable on mobs thanks to spastic retard bosses
I honestly dont get it
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>>484248890
if you don't like exploring, then it was never a game for you in the first place
there, I said it
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>>484248869
melina looks more like milicent in this picture
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>>484248979
at least impaling thrust is still there
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>>484248312
I mean they did have leprosy and it was an issue but leprosy isn't an STD and they didn't think it was, they thought it was caused by skin contact or just being too close to lepers (or divine punishment), which is why lepers had to cover up, have a warning bell and/or got sent to leprosariums.

>>484248315
Oh really? Maybe it was one of those situations where 'syphilis' used to be a fairly generic term which then got applied to a specific thing later on, like how 'corn' used to just mean grain but then got applied to the stuff from America.
That's me asspulling entirely though do not take that as historical record.

>>484248612
Quite possibly. Gonorrhea was also around at the time. It's entirely possible that the study of STDs specifically was either very small or rarely written down because of the nature of the whole thing, so there was just a vague awareness of sleeping around and sticking your dick anywhere would probably make you catch *something*.
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>>484242359
Isn’t her new body based on her mentor’s appearance?
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>>484248629
thank you for putting this much effort into answering my silly question anon I mean it, I didn't know ancient tumors had been found in archeology or any of this stuff, the way i've heard it is that cancer went from not existing (1890s~) to upward of 60% of people in current year but thats clearly not right. learn something every day
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>>484249075
you expect anons to read the lore? tsk tsk
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>>484248890
>>484249009
genuinely hate the skibidi fragments, they feel so incredibly cheap and boring
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bros? is he right?
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>>484248564
We got a wild /dsg/er!
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did they forget to give savage lion claw posture damage or something?
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Wait, if I play this game, do I get a hug from this blue sex goddess?
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>>484247763
Alright I'm done with this game. Call me when they nerf this pile of retardation.
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>>484248564
Yes the boss design of Dks3 DLC was actually pretty good. The problem is that they peaked there with souls combat, and in ER they felt they needed to go even further beyond, so then you got shit like Malenia and Radahn. Bayle a bit less so, but Midir had a far, far more interactable moveset, that's for sure.
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>>484242359
going with that anon from a last thread said and that 'Ranni' as we know her was taken over long ago and is just a proxy body of the outer god Moon, she blue because the Moon is blue, its a hint towards her true eldtrich nature
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>>484249228
Yep
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Holy shit there are some really fucking bad players out there...
I don't consider myself good by any standard but these guys make me look pro by comparison. I didn't realise how bad these people are until I started leveling another character for the DLC. I'm summoning as much as physically possible while I progress for fun, and I'm getting invaded a shitload. The only thing worse than these terrible invaders are the absolutely braindead golds that I seem to summon. I get invaded and fuck off to loot some shit while golds stay behind only to get killed by a fat rolling bloodhound fang user spamming the ash over and over again.
Just again I leave the golds to loot some worthless shit in a cave and within 5 seconds, 1 falls to his death and the other just lets himself get killed, doesn't even try to roll.
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>>484249009
I love exploring... for weapons and armor and spells. Also there's SO many chests in this game that just have like a thin beast bone or rabbit anus inside of it, then you will find a FULL set of armor on a random corpse in the middle of a field.

I fucking HATE it. PUT TREASURES IN TREASURE CHESTS YOU JAP DOGS
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>>484248890
>>484249009
>>484249157
ive still not used a single one
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>>484249247
if you don't beat him pre-nerf, then you will never have beaten him
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How do I have fun with non colossal weapons? It's so hard to stun or stancebreak anything without them and I feel like I'm just being bullied when I use curved swords and similarly light weapons
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>>484248629
Vast majority of cancer deaths are chemo"therapy" deaths
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>>484249354
Don't give a fuck. I don't have to waste any more of my time on this garbage.
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>>484248275
>or Miyazaki cheeses his own games
I'm not calling it cheese, but I'm pretty sure Miyazaki just went greatshield the whole game and had the team tune shit around his gameplay.
It trivializes every boss in the dlc, even Radahn does pathetic stamina damage compared to the hp damage you receive when you're hit.
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>>484249193
Technically yes, but he's being retarded
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>>484249398
exact same way you use any other weapon in this dlc

you roll and r2 or r1 and then you roll 10 times and repeat
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>>484249283
the true coop experience
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>>484247290
Forager brood are what the pests call themselves. Moore is a pest, like Gowry.
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>>484249398
After trying every weapon in the game, the only fun non-colossals are Beast Claws. These things fuck.
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>>484249283
I remember an invasion from a little while back, host and other cooper ran off I fought the invader, blue was summoned an instantly fell off and died he wasn't even near the combat just fucking fell off the pipes in the sewers, then after beating the shit out of the invader and using all my hp pots cause he was a stormcaller spammer the fucking host died on the way down to sewer mohg somehow (not the invader cause I was fighting him)
people are dumb.
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>>484249398
spam blind spot
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>>484249228
are you really this new? spoiler:
you can get married to her
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>>484249283
>1 falls to his death
Sounds about right.
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>>484249546
I killed the first pest I saw and Moore instantly invaded me. Missed all the cookbooks. I have a hatred for those guys I couldn't contain although tbf I didn't get also that forager brood meant pest.
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>>484249452
you don't even need a greatshield, a medium shield is sufficient if you have some defensive talismans
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>>484243341
>there aren't any bad areas
Counterpoint: the fucking finger ruins with snipers shooting pink shit at you from beyond pop-in range and spawning enemies to grab attack you while you're stunned
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>>484249427
use a shield with the deflect tear.
doesn't even have to be the fingerprint shield if you think that would be too easy.
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People who wanted Godwyn to come back are the same people who clap at Marvel movies
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>damn that ash of war looks cool
>takes longer than 1 sec
useless garbage
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>>484249721
i like those
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>>484249009
>I want to replay the DLC with a new character
>Need to collect Golden Seeds, Sacred Tears + what your build needs
>Need to kill Radahn and Mohg, end game boss
>Everything is balanced around end game, so I need +24 weapons
>Bell Bearing for +24 is after Godskin Duo
>Finally in the DLC, it's balanced around fragments
>Need to collect at the very least 26 of them (+12) to actually have a good time
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>>484248979
yeah its really annoying
even something great like wing stance is just too slow for 1s punish windows kek
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>Still crying about Radahn almost a week later
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>>484245441
No fucking chance they'll let him do a second DLC for this
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>>484249802
CE.
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>>484249775
It was all set up for him to come back but Miyazaki wanted to le subvert expectations
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>>484249721
I'm more annoyed that they're such big areas filled with essentially nothing and the grand prize is a talisman
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>Long ago we began as stardust, born of a great rupture, far across the skies!
>We too are children of the Greater Will.

>All that there is came from the One Great.
>Then came fractures, and births, and souls.

>Frenzied Flame is yellow fire and lightning
>Representation of sun and plasma
>Frenzied Flame head looks like a black hole

GREATER WILL MADE THE LANDS BETWEEN AND LIFE BY MAKING A STAR GO SUPERNOVA TO CREATE VARIOUS ELEMENTS
GOLD COMES FROM SUPER NOVAS
FRENZIED FLAME WANTS TO TURN EVERYTHING BACK INTO A STAR OR A SINGULARITY

AAAAAH I'M LOOOOOOOORING
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>>484249775
They should bring back Andre that would be so pog
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Is this a joke why is this shit so light? And how the fuck can fire knights tank a guard counter with this shit
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>>484249354
just use one less skibidi, or you know, get good and dont use them
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>>484241612
off-model
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What are some good pure FTH weapons other than the Pata?
I'm trying to decide whether to make a FTH or a STR/FTH build next. The latter seems to have a lot of cool weapons, but I am a bit afraid that it would end up too similar to my normal full melee character.
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>work at a retirement home
>hear an old woman with dementia say "I have to get out of here"
>immediate thought is of Godrick and his want to return to Leyndell
what the fuck is wrong with me
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>>484249612
say less. now there's a real reason to play the game
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>>484249878
You just got memed
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>>484249697
Anon, didn't you know there is only one pest in the DLC that is the same color as the base game and he's friendly, while the DLC pests are different colors and mean? How did you not see that coming, why would kill an innocent, you monster!
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>>484249858
Kill yourself.
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>>484243341
>there aren't any bad areas
all Finger Ruins
Cerulean Coast
Abyssal Woods
Castle Ensis
recycled forges
recycled gaols
recycled ruins
recycled catacombs
areas of simple empty space of which there are many
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>>484249775
Bringing back Rahdan was the most capeshit tier fanservice slop they could've done, Godwyn would've been much better
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>>484249921
Kill her and see how many runes she drops.
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God fuckin damn it. One move and I die. FUCKing all that effort of not getting hit by everything and slowly chipping at him and just DEAD. AAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>484249792
How the fuck can you like such a cancerous area with absolutely nothing going for it in terms of anything, interesting visuals, loot, enemy variety, nothing
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>>484249851
whos they? bamco? what the fuck else have I been playing for 2 years f@m? elden ring thats who. even with the perceived mixed reviews (they were chinese) and bithcing about gay incest (retards who don't into mythology) people still want more totally not dark souls 4 content.
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>>484249775
holy HECK is that RADAHN back from the DEAD?
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>>484249860
>set up for him to comeback
>the guy who was killed by the thing that kills you permanently
Is this bait? Like fuck the best you could hope for in this situation is to somehow enter the dead fish mind and fight a memory of Godwyn.
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Barbed staff spear any good?
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>FINALLY beat Radahn (Forma Mindcontrollata De Homo)
>OH BOY I CANT WAIT THE REMEMBRANCE SHIT
>two mid reskins of the starscourge swords that even share the same fucking moveset and Miq's nuke

They really had to push this shit out eh? Or they just didn't give this much of a fuck? I don't know what is worse
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>>484249860
>It was all set up for him to come back
His spirit is dead for good and Fia's questline resolves his corpse. There is no setup for him to comeback. We give him closure in the base game.
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>>484249841
i-it should have been hecking Godwyn
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>>484249968
?
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What's the relevance of the finger ruins and manus metyr having rememberance duping caskets?
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>>484249775
>I want Radahn
>I want Godwyn
Just add another space faggot, it's that simple
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>>484250107
it's really good
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why do we never play together
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>every bosses beside Messmer, Midra, and Bayle
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>>484250054
Because next NEW game make bigger money the mostest
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>>484250115
dont forget the armor
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>>484250174
I sense that niggers and faggots frequent this general and I don't want to play with niggers and faggots.
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>>484249968
Then suffer through 10 hours of running around collecting trash in the easy as fuck base game just to get ready for the DLC. Don't forget any farming for runes so you can buy a healthy amount of upgrade mats for DLC weapons.
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>>484250174
Coop means you didn't beat the game :(
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>>484250107
yeah.
>>484250115
I like how it still has the shit dual colossal sword moveset with the L1 block
sasuga fromsoft
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>>484249775
I wanted a godwyn boss fight with Miquella riding him not radahn 2.0 but sure i've watched some marvel movies. I sure as fuck didn't clap though they're very samey and my movie buff friend couldn't even decide if they start with the hulk or captain america because marvel themself couldn't decide if they wanted to remake hulk for a third time at that point in the arc, and then everything after infinity war is dogshit.
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holy crap miquella da kind, what are you doin here?
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>>484250227
*sip*
just don't make em like they used to
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>>484249802
like half of the scubidoo fragments are in the legacy dungeons on directly on the way to them
even if you ignore 80% of the map and just rush towards main bosses you should be able to find enough to get through the DLC, barring the final boss maybe
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>>484249775
>t. Prime Redditahnerino fanboy accusing others
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Has anyone tried to trace lines between each of Miq's crosses locations in the map connecting them to see if it makes any kind of coherent figure hinting at something? Just curious
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>>484249873
More like Greater Will broke the microcosm (singularity) with the big bang. Metyr also literally throws a gamma ray burst at you. Shit's hardcore.
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Do I lose acces to some areas/items by burning the sealing tree?
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>>484249998
>>484250069
Only lorelets were surprised that Miquella wanted Radahn as his Lord
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>>484250174
we had an fc yesterday
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>>484250280
there are plenty of people here not beating the game based on the builds they are posting
might as well just summon as well too (if they arent already)
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>>484249923
her questline is surprisingly easy to do compared to the other ones. i managed to do it on my blind playthrough and i'm a moron. plus it takes you on a journey to almost all the optional areas of the game. there's even a minor script change on the ending if you listened to one extra dialogue. definitely way more fleshed out than all the other endings. it makes me think that that ending is actually the canon one
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>>484250174
Coop is cheating, summons are cheating, shields are cheating, child support payments are cheating, and miyazaki cheated on his wife.
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>uhh durr I have some criticism against the DLC
why even bother lol
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>>484250115
uhm you see anon, its actually relevant to the lore than the rewards are underwhelming. so you see, the end of the game is bittersweet as miquella and radahn are tragic characters (they are both kind remember) so uhh the mediocre rewards are meant to uhh invoke that feeling of bitterness, you know?

please look forward to elden ring 2
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>>484250238
corporate greed isn't why people like these games.
on that same note, the tencent gacha will be a massive flop, wrong audience, and no anime waifus.
give us more japans take on DnD, shut up and take my money
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>>484250345
>doing that when all of the divine towers centering on a single area lead to nothing
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>>484250174
I hate you faggots
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>>484250174
I will only play with you if you're a cute girl (real) and show me your tits
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>all the NPC armor is located at the very end of the dlc
nigga what the fuck
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how do u radahn as a summon? goddamn i don't have enough flasks to survive as a goldguy
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>Try to fight this nigger
>It makes three consecutive fuck off meteor swarms that automatically hone on me
>Finally got close
>Got like one hit in
>It pulls out its faggotry AOE fire stomps
>Back to consecutive fuck off meteor swarms
>There is another nigger version where you can't play whack da ankles for some reason
>Now you need the DLC approved fire pot.tm
>Throw it into its head while dodging its faggotry meteor swarm on a super narrow platform

Thank Miyazaki, very fun. Should have known the moment i saw two fucking Fire Giant on its leg is that it would be twice as faggotry
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dodge rolls should be removed
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>>484249860
>It was all set up for him to come back
it wasn't
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>>484250556
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>>484250478
>he doesn't know
lol?
someone has that gif right, the map one.
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>>484250556
Who are those supposed to be? Ranni and Miquella?
>>484250570
Greatshield + Antspur Rapier. As Miyazaki intended.
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Godrick Axe OP
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>>484250478
I thought the towers hold the corners of the veil of shadow lands, no?
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>>484250368
It should have been me. I should have been Miquella's lord.
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>>484241865
>Best boss
Messmer and/or Bayle, Midra is close 3rd
>Worst boss
Rellana and Gaius

>Best area
Probably Cerulean Coast but I feel all areas are pretty ok
>Worst area
Abyssal Woods but only because the ayylmao unkillable (g)rape monsters

>Best addition
More Fashion
>Worst addition
They didn't add a better FTH weapon than Blasphemous Blade
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>>484249802
It adds to the reason I will not make more than one character
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>>484250637
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT MY HECKIN ROLLSLOPERINO PASTAMANGINO
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>>484250663

>>484250680
St. Trina
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>>484250632
why are you faggots so dramatic?
just use charged r2 to quickly knock them down while jumping the only 3 attacks they can do when you're below them
and the ones you throw pots at die in 5 seconds, do you really find it so difficult to just get close to them?
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>>484250632
Throw firepots in head, kill in seconds
Or sit on there feet and any time they do the stomp just jump, you don't need to run away so you can pretty much permanently stay ontop of them, except when it does the jump. Even then you can get back in range before it starts the fireball attack. Both are easy, the second one is slightly tedious given how long it takes, but is still immensely easy.
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>>484249802
It's really not that long to get back to the DLC and grab the weapons you want. I did it in 4ish hours. Would have been less if I was better at Mohg's fight. Currently at 12 +8 flasks.
Just grab the weapons you want to play with then head back to the base game until you feel ready for the DLC.
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>>484241865
>Best boss
Messmer
>Worst boss
Either Metyr or Putrescent

>Best area
Belurat for gameplay and Cerulean coart for looks
>Worst area
Abyssal Woods

>Best addition
Fire giant hunt and multihit lightning spear.
>Worst addition
Skibidies
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>>484250570
Become H I M
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>>484249860
Eclipse schizos are just failed Griffith schizos but that didn't actually understand the lore
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>>484250701
except that the shadow lands dont properly align with the lands between
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How do I beat redmane freyja and the fat merchant? Both of them are tanky as fuck and cant fucking die before leda and dane show up. I got a sanguine noble who shows up too late and doesnt seem to do anything and the poison dude who is even more useless
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>>484250801
the fuck is that fp bar
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>>484250632
You forgot how they all have like 140k HP so you have to wail forever on the legs in order to get he precious riposte. Oh what is that? You thought it was time already? Nah it's only briefly staggered, hit it some more to make it fall down. I swear those fire niggers are the biggest waste of time in all of From's history
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Elden Ring has OBJECTIVELY bad game design littered through out
You're apparently supposed to use the May the Best Win gesture in front of Dryleaf Dane and he'll teleport you to a 1v1
How the FUCK am I supposed to know that without looking it up online?
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>>484250834

>>484250680
Miquella and St. Trina
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>>484251062
Bait. No one is this fucking retarded.
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>>484250637
>nerfed deflection comes in Elden Ring
>It's extremely broken and resolves every fight by standing in place and pressing L1.
Literally reminded me of how boring Sekiro is
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>>484250927
Putrescent wasnt bad at all though, everything he does is clear and telegraphed
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>>484250943
>the greatshield turtle NPC is a rot bug
They knew.
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>>484251036
but the shadow lands still fit in the center of the map regardless if it looks off-center or not and the tower positions could still cover the whole middle area with the veil the same way though
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I kneel, I squeal, my right arm isn't real
My hype is forgotten, my pussy is rotten, the only ones who will fuck me are leonine misbegotten
I smell like puke, I'm a fluke, if I'm near death I drop a nuke
I suck, I'm a cuck, I watch Radahn give Miquella the proper fuck
I don't have cute feet, all my simps are neets, I am malenia and I have known defeat
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>>484251038
you didn't get Thollier or Ansbach to help you?
didn't know that Freyja joined in either, i didn't finish her questline and yet she wasn't there
>>484251062
by reading the note which explicitly tells you to do just that while also being the only place you get that gesture in the first place
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>there was no set up for him to come back
pretty sure Fia says he or his kid that you make together will rise to be the prince of death so it wasn't out of nowhere.
I just realized two things, volcano AND death factions have sex, and we actually cucked godwyn since we "gave her warmth" before she lay with him.
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>>484251062
>get a message from Dane with a picture of the pose, the pose itself and where to meet him
>how was I supposed to know???
I did the same because I didn't realize I got the emote, but it's pretty obvious in hindsight.
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>be summoned by host for radahn who was gradually making progress with a respectable build
>look at him
>utterly buckbroken
>now using greatshield and antspur
>point down
>finger sever and leave
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I'm not done complaining. HOW THE FUCK IS SPIRIT GLAIVE THIS BAD?! HOW IS FAMILY HEADS LITERALLY WAY WAY WAY STRONGER THAN SPECIAL GRAVEKEEPER IMPLEMENTS FROM THE SHADOWREALM!?
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>>484251207
Yeah the problem with Putrescent knight is that he has 4 total attacks and they're all piss easy to dodge except after you dodge them he sprints past you so you probably don't even get a punish so you're just fighting this boss with no real threatening attacks and only ocassionaly landing a poke against him
It's boring and uninteresting
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So why would the Outer God of Scarlet Rot also happen to somehow produce the strongest and heaviest metal in existence? What's the connection here?
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>>484251159
Any sufficiently advanced bait is indistinguishable from pure retardation
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ITS UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny_jBoEb_6c
seriously though why do Carians fight on pools of water, wonder what that is a reference to/ implying
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>>484251062
read item descriptions. READ them. its like that video asking how people found the dlc in dark souls 1, by READING the ITEM DESCRIPTION of the thing that drops from crystal man in the dukes archives thats how.
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>>484251207
>everything he does is clear and telegraphed
..and dead angles your blocks, and comboes with the horses and ground effects to rollcatch you.
No but objectively I hate him because I fought him thinking I had the deflecting tear equipped and seethed a lot at "impossible" guard breaks and chip damage from blocks I was sure I had timed correctly.
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>>484250670
It lead to nothing. Where they all converge is different from where the Suppresing Pillar is at. Even in the gif someone made.
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>>484251329
based
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>>484251267
>you didn't get Thollier or Ansbach to help you?
>didn't know that Freyja joined in either, i didn't finish her questline and yet she wasn't there
Thollier is the poison guy but he shows up when there are 4 enemies and there is no way he is building up statuses when im nearly dead. I killed Ansbach so I got a literal Sanguine Noble NPC as a summon.

I completed Freyja's questline and she said that she'll go on her own path and avoid drawing swords with us, but then she became an enemy here, which is confusing.
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>>484251494
Still water is a natural mirror, they're reflecting the night sky. Same reason all their metal uses polished silver.
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>>484251406
Verdigris IRL is rusted copper. He's basically wearing ROT METAL. Verdigris is also poionous.
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>>484251494
That's not water. That's pussy juice from being constantly gushing thinking about their lovers.
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>pekora got the boss to 1 hp and died
>turbo mindbroken now

how is pekora better than me at this fight and still struggling
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>>484251528
someone fucking post the gif please I didnt save it and im not arguing with this retard. the shadow realm is in the gap there I said it. its fact, the missing bridges in base game are the proof.
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holy FUCK that was an ordeal
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>Create the perfect dragon boss with Midir
>Literally never do it again, intentionally make far worse dragon fights
Why do they do this? WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF MAKING THE HEAD THE WEAK SPOT IF YOU CAN ALMOST NEVER HIT IT?
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>>484251062
I think "O Mother" in front of a statue and "Illusory Wall hiding a shit ton of content" and even more being hidden past some catacomb in the middle of nowhere are worst
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>try going full STORM
>PvP, it's ok, both Stormcall and Horned Warrior Sword WA are very good
>PvE
>mediocre damage, gets constantly interupted
This DLC is dumb, either you are doing Bleed FAST AND A LOT or using super massive STR.
Anything else and the bosses gets too annoying to deal with
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>>484251736
You can hit Bayle's after almost every single attack he does even in phase 2
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So the backhand blade PVE chart goes like this right?
>bleed infuse
>if enemy has no poise, mash R1
>if enemy doesn't stagger, BLIND SPOT BLIND SPOT BLIND SPOT
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>>484251736
Midir bad
Midir dogshit
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>>484251237
nice
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>>484251717
congrats anon
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>>484243418
>>Miquella character assassination
Did people really expect a FromSoft deity and the inventor of the Bewitching Branch to not be an asshole?
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>>484241612
Plapping Marika's snakussy.
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>>484251598
makes a lot of sense, dunno why I didn't think of it
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>find the mimic tear
>dozens of seething statues in front claiming YDBTG
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>>484251690
who, Radahn?
is she still using the bleed greatsword with giant's hunt though? if so, then she didn't beat the game
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sent
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I left Bayle for last on purpose.
This will sound autistic as shit, but part of me genuinely wants to respec a bit to use the MLGS, Carian scepter and also this shield all at the same time.
I'm already a sucker for equipment with multiple uses, plus this would feel like becoming a boss of sorts with a giant array of moves. There's also the thematic element of him being Ranni's consort, so why not use Carian leadership equipment?
Also it fits the drip, I just hate how low the shield is held when used as a shield. Damage is no issue with it either as I can just slap on a cold or magic damage ash.
PLUS PLUS PLUS, a knight with a sword and shield against a dragon is fucking rad.
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>>484251829
Wrong and lying.
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>>484246531
I fucking LOVE blinkbolt, both the special versions on the axes and the AoW, it's super cool, covers Hella distance, has a good amount of iframes, and goes right into r1

People kept saying it was worthless, but now everyone sees! it's literally one of the top 3 AoWs for me!
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>>484251954
She swapped back to heavy infusion
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>>484251702
?
Stop sperging out. I'm stating facts. The supressing pillar is right over there.
>The Shadow Realm is in the gap
Not what you said. You're talking about the Divine Towers converging in a single area leading to something. It doesn't.
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>>484251778
That's somehow the only one I managed to organically work out and I don't even know why it came to me to try that
I guess after scouring the map for hours looking for a way to access this area and resorting to the idea that there MUST be something connected to Gaius' area and remembering they pulled dumb shit with Blaidd needing a certain gesture to come down in the base game led me to thinking maybe a specific pose might do something
I was still in utter disbelief when it actually worked though. I was looking at my other monitor when I heard the sound of the statue scraping and did a double take in pure shock
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>>484243418
>Godwyn was expected to be final boss
Who expected this? Godwyn's story was done in the base game. The dude's soul is dead, he was never coming back.
>Miquella character assassination
Miquella was always implied to be someone who mind controls people.
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>>484243172
You can be 20 feet out and you'll still land it
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>Light Greatsword class
>Get a look at its poise values
>82 on a 2h r1 (straight swords do 143 fyi)
>69 + 69 on a 2h r2 (straight swords do 240 on one attack fyi)
>rest of the moveset follows this pattern, with only the jump attacks doig okay poise damage
Holy fucking shit. How did they fuck up this badly? No wonder the weapon feels like a wet noodle in both PvE and PvP.
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>>484251237
>I watch Radahn give Miquella the proper fuck
Radahn got that gorilla grip bussy
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>>484252040
well shit, she is better than me then
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>>484252087
someone post the gif for fuck sake im not doing this. im not talking about what you're talking about either, you said no one knows whats in the middle of the divine towers and do not fucking "that wasn't me"
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https://youtu.be/KN2dBp3u5Dg
Did you guys watch this?
>The jarburg shit is deeper than previously thought
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>>484252103
I also found "O Mother" without searching, even if it took me 3 hours.
Couldn't find the illusory wall in the painting room of Shadow Keep even if I checked there twice (no Multiplayer) so fuck that part.
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>>484251604
Okay that makes a lot of sense.
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>>484252196
Does it show Marika tits? If not I don't care about it.
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>>484252196
not watching your video, post tl;dw or fuck off
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>"This...is the other hallowbrand.
>How did you...
>Oh, my utmost thanks.
>With this, Godwyn can take his rightful place as First of the Dead.
>And claim a second, illustrious life.
Godwyn LIVES
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>>484252196
You have nice sound quality for less than 700 subs.
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>>484252195
Take your meds before posting, faggot.
>doing that when all of the divine towers centering on a single area lead to nothing
>he doesn't know
Then tell me, what are you talking about? Retard.
>>484252389
Fia dies right after that, though. Nothing changed.
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>>484252291
I checked there twice too I even found that room my first time in Shadow Keep and thought to myself there has to be more in that room
I think the second time I checked I even bashed a wall or two but didn't find the wall
I was seething when a friend told me the solution
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>>484251501
Radahn forma Incest fight
>Now the vow will be honored and my Lord's brother's soul will return
Implies that we are fighting a soulless husk
>beat his ass to phase 2
>glows red
>Lord brother, at long last you are returned
So does that mean that soul resurrection somehow needs consent (like in DnD) and to do that, Miquella needs the Radahn puppet to feel the thrill of battle with a worthy opponent?
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>>484243712
>hey wait a minute this tarnished still has Grace
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>>484251829
Not true, he combo extends too rapidly for you to hit the head. Actual optimal placement is hitting his stump.
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>>484252174
They were too afraid to give strong poise damage to a moveset this good and oppressive.
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>>484243418
You mean
>Mohg retroactively robbed of agency
>wonky mindrape powers that work on Mohg, but maybe don't on Radahn, dunno, skibidi
>something something vow that someone made to someone about something
>Radahn consort bullshit completely out of left field
>once again it's two DLCs shoved together, so Messmer gets completely sidelined
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>>484251903
So Marika being part snake like Messmer with his base serpent is the current threads explanation for
>Why Rykard joining with the god devouring serpent is blasphemy
>Why Messmer was sealed, to hide her true nature
>All the M children were born of Marika alone as snakes can have virgin births, goes with the Remembrance of the Rot Goddess
>Miquella and Malenia are both the children of a single god. As such they are both Empyreans, but suffered afflictions from birth. One was cursed with eternal childhood, and the other harbored rot within.
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>>484252103
I've found the gesture pretty early and I remember there was a message near it, don't remember what exactly, but something that implied that there is a use for this gesture. Since then, I've basically used it on every statue and NPC I had found, until it finally worked.
Though most of the game I was thinking we'd see a brood mother of Moore, because I remember him saying something about her, and that that gesture would be related to her and his quest somehow.
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>>484252473
Is there an explanation for why we stop seeing grace guidance until killing Messmer, and then suddenly we see it everywhere?
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>>484252174
its so bad
they feel nice in pve at least but they do no damage and they're basically unusable in pvp
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>Hand it over, that thing… your dark soul. For my lady’s painting…
>Ahh, is this the blood…? The blood of the dark soul…?

Vs

>MUH PROMISED CONSORT RADAHN
>THOUSAND YEAR VOYAGE OF SODOMY AND GOMORRAH

From Soft fell off, what a time to be alive.
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>>484252350
Not mine though but basically
>Everyone in the lands between is related to Marika and that's why the jars there can eat anyone and mold them together since everyone inherited shamans flesh properties
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>>484252458
meant to quote >>484251494
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>>484252613
Fromsoft writing peaked at
>Many monarchs have come and gone...
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>>484252584
No idea. Maybe Fromsoft dropping the ball. Maybe Marika throwing a hissy fit over us killing her last remaining functional child.
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>>484252458
He's still a puppet in the second phase that just keeps grunting just like mad Radahn we fought in the base game ontop of his face being emotionless
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I unironically hope they buff radahn and make him tear through greatshields and buff his resistances across the board so that people are forced to git gud or ragequit forever.
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>>484250701
They are satelite towers repurposed to hold the veil
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>>484252584
Huh? I didn't notice, does that really happen?
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>>484252689
For me it's
>bear, seek, seek, lest
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If Fromsoft were to make another Elden Ring DLC what would you want it to be about?
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you what boss listens to kanye you think a boss listen to kanye west music?
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>>484252458
He went into the Crucible across the gate and returned with Radahn's soul.
Why was Radahn's soul in the Crucible and not still attached to his jarmeat flesh in our talisman bar like the description implies?
Why did Radahn's soul pass to the Crucible in the Shadowlands instead of returning to the Erdtree?
We'll never know.
My headcanon at least is that the reason an Empyrean needs a lord-consort to become a God is that they would become one with the Crucible and unable to return without someone waiting on the other side to guide them back.
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>>484252890
Chalice dungeons
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>>484252890
My happy life as an Elden Lord with my wife Rya.
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>>484252890
Radahns childhood
the alabastor lord that taught him
more lore about his horsee
redmanes vs cleanrots
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>>484252890
Gloam eyed queen or some new threat. Pretty sure we're doneso with this game though.
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>>484252689
Fromsoft writing peaked at
>Sorry, but I'll have to cancel that. I'm heading out to SAVE AMERICA
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>>484252559
The snake nature and virgin births explain also why the selfcest kids are afflicted, seeing as they don't have a father through normal ways and leaving it open for an outer god to take place and curse them.
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No but seriously
What the fuck do you do in that second phase, 95% of the time I can't even see what's happening and whenever I see anything it's too late to dodge whatever it is
Honestly man there's no way you can defend this bossfight design, what were they thinking?
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>>484253042
shut the fuck up
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Speaking of new DLC, wasn't there supposed to be some sort of a leak today? Potentially with info about new fromsoft projects?
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>>484252890
Melina, GEQ and godskins, the other demigods killed in the night of blackknives.
The previous eras of the lands between when those MASSIVE skeletons were alive, the fire giant civlisation that built those towers with the dead 2 fingers atop of. THe underground civilsiation whose ruins we see everywhere underground, the death rite birds and their god
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>>484252890
Malenia's mentor an an optional boss.
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>>484252890
a dlc similar to harvest moon and I can marry my foot waifu and grow ingredients for materials. more in depth quests.
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>>484253154
The boss is fine except for one move.
The pillar spam is lazy though and is super low effort.
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Watch out, pussy hostcels. I'm doing my morning warm up so my skills will be razor sharp when I come to rape you. I want you to know that you are never safe. I'm like a seagull and you're a baby sea turtle on the beach. If you DARE to summon your faggot sissy friends to carry your pussy ass, I WILL find you and I will skin all of you alive.
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>>484252850
There's no grace arrows on the map until you kill Messmer, and then they all appear at once. I'm certain because I did Romina before Messmer and noticed how after he died, the whole of Rauh was filled with grace arrows. There's even a grace arrow pointing to Shadow Keep from the Dancing Lion's boss arena that only shows after you've killed Messmer.
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>>484252890
Aliens
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I want to make an INT faggot playthrough, preferably with magic only/mostly.
How do I deal with magic resistant shit and where to get anything that scales with int but has damage other than magical besides Rock sling?
What spells are good besides carian slicer spam?
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>>484253128
I still can't explain which outer god got to Miquella to make him a child forever. But yeah it does tie all that stuff together well.
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>>484252497
It doesn't even have mediocre poise damage. It has les poise damage than a thrusting sword. Literally the only thing it beats is daggers lmao. And if the dagger r2 is not multihit you are going to stagger someone more often with a dagger than you will with the r2 of a Light Greatsword. Jesus Christ.
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>>484252195
>someone post the gif
that gif is about as convincing as this meme
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>>484252890
High adventure and riddles of steel in the lands of the barbarians.
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>>484253283
holy fucking BAAAAASEEEEEED
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>>484253371
>meme
>he doesn't know
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>>484251062
>read message
>he wants a duel
>hmmm which gesture could it be
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>>484252443
I already told you, someone post the gif, and you, fuck off, buzzword using memespouting faggot.
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>>484253283
>metalord build
>cheated in items
sick bro
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>>484252890
Malenia's childhood
the blind swordsman that taught her
more lore about her relationships
redmanes vs cleanrots
more lore about the rest of her campaigns
her befriending us
culminating in us slaying the outer god of Rot

My girl was done totally dirty by the DLC almost completely ignoring her existence, a TOH-sized expansion just about her is the least they could do. I would settle for a Sekiro-tier base game update that just gives her a few more item descriptions about her character and future along with the Inner Malenia boss fight God Miyazaki please.
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>>484252980
>Why was Radahn's soul in the Crucible and not still attached to his jarmeat flesh in our talisman bar like the description implies?
the hell are you own about
>Why did Radahn's soul pass to the Crucible in the Shadowlands instead of returning to the Erdtree?
because the connection to the Erdtree was permanently severed and nobody can actually return to it.
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>>484253591
he's literally farming the items in that webm, retard
kek
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>>484252890
Elden Ring: Skeletons of the Erdtree, full on Godwyn shit and GEQ. It's never happening though, people are beating this at like 15+ skibidis and RL200 so where the fuck do you go from here? Skibidis again, RL250 and mandatory 99 vig to not be oneshot?
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>>484252890
Backstory of the eternal cities and the Numens.
Final boss is the Great Will trying to come back.
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>>484252689
For me it was
>"Peace grants men the illusion of life. Shackled by falsehoods, they yearn for love, unaware of its grand illusion. Until, the curse touches their flesh. We are bound by this yoke. As true as the Dark that churns within men."
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fth/dex or fth/str?!
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>>484253591
I mean you could just savescum everything he has
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>>484253728
fth str
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>finally get to Bayle
>he's legitimately the most fun boss in the entire DLC
>my buyer's remorse completely fucking vanished
I'M IN LOVE AND I WISH TO FIGHT THIS DRAKE, WIN OR LOSE! I'M HAVING MY FUCKING GODFREY MOMENT AGAIN WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>484252890
helphens
>>484252996
this too massive disappointment that they didn't already do this with the obviously block built catacombs.
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Pekora finally did it
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regarding Moore
>If you tell him "I don't know" his quest line will not progress until you give him an answer, if he does not recieve an answer before the fight in Enir-Ilim, he will not show up in the fight and you could still find him staying at his original location. Doing this stops you from acquiring his armor and greatshield, but he remains alive with a few more dialogue.
is this true? doing a ng+ dlc run and I don't want him to die
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https://www.youtube.com/embed/1gXVzfjNXlY
Pekora beat Radahn. Why haven't you yet?
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>>484252689
Nah
>A corpse should be left well alone
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>>484253339
get carian granduer/sovereignty
it's a "spell"
night comet is buster, at least I think it's the comet. it's one of the night spells
spiral obliterates the big boys

but rock sling is gonna be your go to for magic resistant enemies
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>pekora actually beat the game

wow, so if you didn't beat radahn honestly before this its unironically over
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>>484252689
"Seek adversity."
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>WHOA FINGER RUINS
>HUGE areas that look like a fucking meteor hit them
>fingernigger enemies EVERYWHERE
>that's actually it though
>no chests
>no dungeon
>no bosses
>just a fucking rock that you go up and blow a whistle into

Why the FUCK are these areas SO GIGANTIC but completely empty? Holy fucking disappointment
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>>484252890
Melina and GEQ which would naturally tell us the story about the Numen women that escaped from what later became the Shadow Realm. Though this TV show/movie GRRM has visibility to is more likely to focus on this pre-shattering stuff than anything else

>>484253791
You never had buyer's remorse you just suck at video games
above needs to go on a t-shirt
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>>484253342
Yeah, that's the only missing. But anon did propose this >>484186157
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>>484253850
>>484253867
based rabbit
and cause im slow I guess, also the self imposed no skibadis what am I a scrub challenge, making me spend literal weeks grinding other characters so they're ready for that shit
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>>484252890
I would want to leave the Lands Between and head to some other ancient eldritch place touched or ruined by the hands of outer gods. Maybe not one continuous map but a series of smaller areas, each one a different 'world' claimed by a different outer god. A dense and temperate rot-jungle populated by insectoid megafauna and carnivorous rafflesia; a desolate ruin on a barren, blasted rock marred by smouldering fingerprints with a frenzied yellow sun looming over dim, murky lake; an abandoned magical necropolis rising from an endless placid sea with its white-ringed sun forever eclipsed by a black moon; etc.

Maybe even have the dungeons interact with one another. Beckoning the Black Moon to eclipse the frenzy sun to advance into Carcossa, unleashing an ember of frenzy on the rot jungle to burn a path forward, etc.
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>>484246846
Deathblight is more lethal than scarlet rot
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>>484253339
Adula's Moonblade for frost
Night Comet for any NPC since it wont activate there button reading dodge spam for projectiles and they'll just take it head on. Works against bosses who spam dodge like Malenia.
Hammer because it's fucking sick.
Cannon for the same reason.
Frost weapons are really handy, getting yourself the Smithscript dagger and making it fire is a really easy and quick way to remove frostbite allowing you to spam frostbite.
Carian Sovereignty stupidly high stagger.
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>>484253791
Bayle is the best boss fight in the DLC.
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>>484253867
I fucking kneel. I'm still getting filtered by him
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>>484254009
hmm so theres another unnamed out god. I buy it desu
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Bayle is just another boss suffering from terrible design and terrible camera
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>>484253867
>>484254039
>I would want to leave the Lands Between and head to some other ancient eldritch place touched or ruined by the hands of outer gods. Maybe not one continuous map but a series of smaller areas, each one a different 'world' claimed by a different outer god. A dense and temperate rot-jungle populated by insectoid megafauna and carnivorous rafflesia; a desolate ruin on a barren, blasted rock marred by smouldering fingerprints with a frenzied yellow sun looming over dim, murky lake; an abandoned magical necropolis rising from an endless placid sea with its white-ringed sun forever eclipsed by a black moon; etc.
>
>Maybe even have the dungeons interact with one another. Beckoning the Black Moon to eclipse the frenzy sun to advance into Carcossa, unleashing an ember of frenzy on the rot jungle to burn a path forward, etc.
So Remmant 2 but in Elden Ring? No bad
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>>484241612
Are there any mods to add in GYATTT so big that the character ass clap when it walking
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>>484250520
same with normal ER
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>>484253790
focus on fire incants and aow then?
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>>484254154
You are just another bad suffering from skill issues.
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>>484254039
>a frenzied yellow sun looming over dim, murky lake
Make that two suns and call it Carcosa.
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>>484253982
but what if... we added lampreys with gay gravity magic that knocks you off your horse from miles away... hehehehe...
>>484253915
she channeled the ancient samurai spirit
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>>484254243
gottem gg ez
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>>484252890
Finding where Metyr went
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>>484253705
>These are the roots of our world. Men are props on the stage of life and no matter how tender, how exquisite, A LIE WILL REMAIN A LIE
Aldia has such a ridiculously high concentration of kino dialogue.
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>>484251062
illiterate
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just give fromsoftware the forgottenrealms/planescape IPs
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>no swift slash nerf or perfume hotfix
they don't give a shit.
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>>484247453
It's funny how accurate and off it is at the same time
There's no gay incest between Godwyn and Miquella but you get gay incest between Radahn and Miquella instead
There's no tranny Miquella but you get tranny mother of fingers instead
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Why are Carian anons so fixated on feet? Is it because feet are the hands of the legs?
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>>484251390
family heads got buffed and all the dlc shit is still in unpatched (read:shit) state
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484254352
Wrong
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>>484254243
>>484254154
you didn't beat the you will never be a woman
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>die 4 times drinking nectar and the gay flower will speak
amazing, thank you mike hacki
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>>484254245
The shadows lengthen...
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>>484254376
I wouldn't expect more than a patch a week for a while and probably not a serious balance patch until after a month has passed but Swift Slash's issue is deeper than just tuning some numbers so unless they intend to kneecap it into unusability it will probably take some time to fix.
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how do you bind roll to a mouse button?
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>>484252890
We teleport to an alien planet and we learn about the origins of the Greater Will. Final boss is a Cthulhu sized abomination aka.............THE GREATER WILL!
They'd have all the freedom in the world to add crazy biomes and all sorts of shit.
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It's almost been a decade and DS3shitters are still the worst somehow
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>>484254291
>The beam of the lighthouse effect of the pulsar from where she and GW came from finally points to the lands between again
>As the tarnished notices it, he gets transported to where they are and discover their origins
Would be kino
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I haven't had a single host survive to see radahn do the meteor attack today.
Grim.
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>>484251849
just blind spot every enemy attack
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>gloam eyed knight
GEQBROS
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>no new perfumer starting class
defend this
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>>484254512
It would have been fine if there was some fucking hint like calling her St. Trina of the Four Deaths or Thioller talking about how the fourth time he drank the nectussy he busted in his pants or something but there's literally zero clues that you need to keep doing this. I had to do it SIX times because Thioller bricked up until I got all the dialog options.

The worst part is that he is fucking useless against Radahn and his gear isn't particularly good. Why is this even a secret?
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>>484252689
>Every age, it seems, is tainted by the greed of man. Rubbish to one such as I, devoid of all worldly wants! Hahahahahahahahaha. Hmmm, I dunno, maybe it's just the way we are. I'll stick you in my prayers. A fine dark soul, to you.
- Lapp i.e. Patches i.e. the Furtive Pygmy (real)
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>>484254674
DS3 chads still out here reppin
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>>484241865
>Best boss
Midra.
>Worst boss
Radahn

>Best area
Shadow Keep. Best legacy dungeon in the game with plenty of secret areas leading to a considerable amount of content, multiple entrances, good use of verticality in its design, just great stuff all around.
>Worst area
Charo's Hidden Grave. At least Abyssal Woods has a gimmick to lean on as an excuse for why it's so empty. Charo's is just a waste of space, there's nothing fucking there at all.

>Best addition
Deflecting Hardtear.
>Worst addition
New weapons that fulfill roles we already had filled by base game weapons, like the Int katana.
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>>484254298
They really should've brought him back in 3. That nigga is the most interesting character they done in the whole series.
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>>484254726
As soon as I saw that weapon I got Orphan of Kos SHHEEEEEEEEOAAAOWWW PTSD flashbacks. I went fucking sicko mode on this faggot and demolished him.
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why did he do it
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>>484254726
OrphanOfKos
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>>484254291
probably to her father.
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Anons. This DLC made me want BB for the PC even more.
Why do they do this to me? I want to give them my money. I'm fucking ready. My wallet is prepared. They won't give it to me
Why?
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>>484254674
Is that even a surprise? Did you see /dsg/? It was an actual embarrassment. I went on there a while back to get back into DS3 invading and it was only degenerate autists left. As someone who used to really enjoy /dsg/, it was really saddening to see it fall so far.
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>>484254937
He didnt eat enought GYATT
You're not yourself when you're hungry
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>>484254726
So now that we know that this cloudy light blue is "gloam" do we think the Dancing Lion with the same-coloured eyes is supposed to be significant?
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why are messages constantly just fucking stupid sex jokes or "dog" or "oh you don't have the right etc" etc

>>484254728
would just steamroll everything immediately
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>>484254979
It's all Sony
Miyazaki said there are lots of people at From who want to do a PC port but their hands are tied
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>>484254516
why is she blacc
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>spend 2 years making DLC
>40 dollars
>still worse than Ringed City and Old hunters
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>>484254708
>discover their origins
>Tarnished wakes up on Melanat Island
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>>484254937
>St. Trina's love for Kind Miquella is boundless.
>She is, after all, his other half. Or perhaps her feelings go beyond even that.
>Even if she was left behind, I doubt her heart would waver.
What did Leda mean by this?
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>>484255058
I want to go home... and then edge...
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>>484254728
perfumer is clearly a prestige class
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>>484254937
Obviously Trina was the angel on his shoulder telling him he was making a mistake and godhood would be his undoing etc but he had already cast aside his ability to even think if he was making a mistake, so by that point the only logical thing he could do was get rid of her.
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>>484254154
It's undeniable that they tried to recreate the magic of the Midir fight with facing the dragon head-on and attacking the head, but went way overboard with bad positioning so you can't optimally fight it the intended way. Came for Midir always adjusted perfectly so you could hit the head, head position was always low height, that kind of stuff. It's the little details that make something great.
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>>484255058
o you don't have the right o you don't have the right
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>>484254979
play lies of p
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>>484254726
wanted to play with his weapon but turns out its completely unuseable thanks to how shit the AoW is in this sperg DLC
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That was... something.
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>>484241865
>Best boss
Radahn
>Worst boss
Bayle
>Best area
Shadow Keep
>Worst area
Abyssal Woods
>Best addition
Light greatswords
>Worst addition
Skibidi fragments
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>>484252628
This theory was posted on /erg/ a few days ago. Snore.
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>>484255173
When does she give you that dialogue? Finding the cross at the ceruleam coast but before the rune shatters
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>>484253283
Try killing my hosts.
I'll bitch slap you so hard sending you straight to low level stormveil.
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Theory: Marika is guiding the Tarnished of no renown for a bunch of different reasons:
Frenzied Flame
>a part of her is sick of it all and just wants everything to end
Dungeater
>a part of her feels remorse for the treatment Morgott and Mohg had to endure
Ranni
>a part of her is tired and just wants someone else to take up the mantle
Goldmask
>a part of her still believes that the Golden Order can be saved
Fia
>a part of her mourns the loss of Godwyn
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>>484255141
>still worse than Ringed City
How can anything be worse than Ringed City.
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>>484255173
It's weird that they had a seemingly loving and good relationship as other selves when Radagon and Marika seemed so combative. I mean Miquella did discard her but for an altruistic purpose in his mind.
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>>484255173
She's coping hard and cannot accept that her lord made a grave mistake
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What are Seluvis’ dolls anyway? Are they biological?
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>>484255252
>>484255185
dude so heckin wholesome chungus

>>484254937
instead of pursuing the alchemical goal of becoming a rebis prior to ascension by integration of his masculine and feminine parts, miquella decided to just divest himself of his masculinity, his femininity, and everything else that made him human, but in the end could not give up his love for his dear brother's cock
great writing miyazaki and grrm r so deep
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>>484255501
What did you dislike about Ringed City?
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>>484255431
Its after the rune breaks, and you recommend killing Thiollier. She dismisses him as a threat. She even references it in the final battle if they fight
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>Spec into Faith
>Try using a bunch of spells (Fireball, Black Fireball) all mediocre
>Use Sacred Blade WA
>Longer range, faster recovery, buffs, does shitloads more damage
So... When do incants start doing mkre damage?
Why is a generic Weapon Art doing more than the shit I specced into??

>>484255141
>worse than Ringed City
>and Old Hunters
Why are you comparing the worst DLC and the best DLC they ever made in the same sentense?
It could never be better than Old Hunters
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>>484254979
you will suck sony's cock and you will like it!
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Which build has the highest criticals? I'm assuming you'd use the Miserecorde.
I wanted to make a class to sneak around and ambush people in PVP. I don't care which build I need, just as long as much backstabs when I manage to sneak up to someone are fucking massive.
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>>484255531
they're people that were magic roofied to the point of total unconsciousness...
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>>484255173
Even a random phantom calls out Miquella on his bullshit of forsaking Trina. I wouldn't trust anything Leda has to say in the matter because she's retarded for Miquella even when she's not bewitched anymore.
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>>484255501
Level design in Ringed City WAS a disappointment to my eyes, but enemy variety, lore and bosses were all better than this DLC.
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>>484255173
Does this imply that St Trina loved Miquella romantically?
I mean as others started we know that the whole "two halves" doesn't always mean the characters are in alignment. Radagon and Marika aren't the same person, merely "two halves", but each have their own ego and self.
So in that sense, it wouldn't just be love of self but romantic love.
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>>484255472
>I'll bitch slap you so hard sending you straight to low level stormveil.
kek
you won't do shit nigger when I invade you're at my mercy
now place nice or I'll send you and your faggot friends into newgame+7 with 99 poison daggers+10
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>>484254352
Based and true. Midir is still the only good dragon boss they’ve ever made.
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>>484255141
Fuck off, the Old Hunter is a constant asset recycle that makes base game Elden Ring pale.
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>>484252890
>If Fromsoft were to make another Elden Ring DLC what would you want it to be about?
The removal of the open world meme.
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>>484255661
learn to parry if you want to crit fish
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>>484254516
She and her sister are such a good summon. They're active, they can dodge roll, and they do tons of bleed.

>>484255117
Oh my god, you can't just ask why someone is black.
Also probably cause her "sister" is super white. Fromsoft likes their contrast.
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make new thread
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>>484255690
>Thiollier.
>I seem to have made a poor judgement.
>About you. Or perhaps, St. Trina.
LAUGH AT LEDA
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>>484255262
I don't want to fucking play lies of P I want to play BB
I've already played it I just wanna play it again. It's my favorite fucking From game and it's the only one I can't just boot up whenever I want.
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Dunno if it's a known bug, but in the fog catacomb, if you roll at a specific time towards the spike traps (not on the ground, but on a platform at the same height), you can clip into it
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>>484255262
Seconding this. Lies of P is better than any From game.
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>>484254154
>"le bad design"
A.k.a. I got filtered but I want to frame it as a game problem instead of a skill issue
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>>484255925
it's probably my favourite too, maybe you could buy an old used ps4 for cheap? it'd be worth it
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>>484254081
microcosm shits on cannon desu
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>>484255661
dagger tali, misericorde, do the stealth set up that I still need to look up myself again so the LoD range ie range they can physically see you even load in is decreased, and use mimic veil to hide, and host mirror so you don't glow red
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>>484255826
>Fuck off, the Old Hunter is a constant asset recycle that makes base game Elden Ring pale.
Maria by herself is superior to every single boss in this DLC and really ER in general
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>>484255141
>>still worse than Ringed City and Old hunters
Nope, the pricetag of Shadow of the Erdtree feels fair and you can tell they put a lot of effort
RX and TOH are a scam even for half a price
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>>484255757
>imagine being dumped for your brother who doesn't even like you(r other self)
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>>484256083
If you got filtered by Rennal you can just say so
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>>484256083
>Maria by herself
is Friede but basic and retarded, extremely inferior to Rellana and Malenia. The Old Hunters bosses are fucking shit bro
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Bayle's fight would benefit greatly from having more targeting points.
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I want to jump into NG+ but have no fucking idea what build making noow and i spent the last 6 hours in complete indecision going back and forth respeccing to find nothing to be satisfied about
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>>484256352
nta now show phase 3
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Friede and gael are the best soulsbourne bosses they've made
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>single throwaway line inspires the most DLC fanart
the people love melina and messmer
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>>484255337
Retard
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>>484255490
underrated post
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>>484256524
>Friede
Yes
>gael
Overrated trash
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>Maria by herself is superior to every single boss in this DLC and really ER in general
I see the /v/ shitposters are here. Must be amerimutt hours
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rollbros?
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So what's up with the "Night" stuff? The ash says Jolan and Anna were raised in a gaol.
>Jolán and Anna were born in a cold, dark gaol, where they were raised, deprived of light, to be Swordhands of Night. Thus were they cultivated to become the most terrifying masters of their blades, though the burden of the deed left their hearts frail and pliant.
And the armor mentions fingerprint stuff
>Bottomless black helm, cool to the touch.
>Flowing lines in the seeming shape of a fingerprint adorn the surface. Imprisons the wearer in utterly lightless dark.
>Bestowed upon those born deep underground, ordaining them as Swordhands of Night.

So were they made by the Carian's/Messmer's armies in the jails, or were they made by hornsent? The night stuff being semi-coporeal seems to point to them being tied to the other black shadow things in the DLC, but they're both under Ymir's command (one willingly, the other a puppet).
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>>484256529
I'm not shit at the game or unable to have fun like the rest of you retards.
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the legacy dungeons are visually dull compared to base game
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>>484256631
>t. living failure
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>>484255301
:( its a cool weapon
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Migrate
>>484256657
>>484256657
>>484256657
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>>484255146
They really should make another/reboot KF
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>>484256375
get the rock heart and do a dragon man run
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>all these shitters that got filtered by bayle saying hes the worst boss
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>>484256528
what's the line?
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>>484249721
i liked that pair of areas, so you are wrong
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>>484256528
they need an outlet for cute siblings being cute now that nobody likes miquella
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>>484256528
It's almost as if they're picking another brother and sister relationship and trying to make le wholesome arts after the previous one was thrown into the garbage bin.
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>>484256663
TL:DW
You can jump a lot of attacks which allow you to do jumping attacks for more poise damage.
Then he's going to show a bunch of attacks that can be easily jumped like the dragon tail swipe and Godfrey slams.
Haven't even watched it but that's what's going to happen in that shitty video.
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>>484249983
disagree, the closest thing to a bad area is the other castle, the one that rehashes stormveil music, now that felt really shitty, but that's just the music, not the area in general
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>>484256798
>Messmer, much like his younger sister, bore a vision of fire
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>>484256128
It really depends on what you value.
Elden Ring has a lot of cool scenery, and "wow check out the view" moments but the content itself is not the most polished and there is are a lot of elements that seem to be awkwardly tacked on or cut content.

The older dlcs were more linear to be sure but the story narratives and setting was way more polished. Boss fights are a matter of opinion, however I will say I dont think anything in SOTE is actually better than the previous titles with Radahn being worse.
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All these retards rating Abyssal Woods (more widely known among scholars as the Kino Woods) as Worst Area
You retards have no TASTE
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>>484256352
>woooow it's not a 50-hit anime combo
lmao
>>484255826
4/5 bosses were memorable and iconic to FROM. Final boss is original and doesn't retroactively ruin the base game's plot.
The only boss people will fondly remember from SoTE is Messmer.
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>>484256486
>Abyss Watcher but easier and more staggerable and less aggressive despite spending half the fight charging attacks.
Bloodborne bosses are undeniably Manus/Kalameet tier and really primitive.
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>>484257097
>retroactively ruin the base game's plot.
I dislike them using Radahn for the final boss instead of something new but it fits right in with the base game's plot. The only thing it ruined is the headcanon of stupid fans that refuse to stick to the text when coming up with their retarded lore "theories".
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>>484254760
>St. Trina of the Four Deaths
"St Trina of the Kill Yourself"
>>484255173
I like that he still placed a leonine misbegotten to defend her.
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>>484257097
>4/5 bosses were memorable and iconic to FROM.
Nobody gives a fuck about Laurence
>Final boss is original and doesn't retroactively ruin the base game's plot.
Radahn doesn't ruin the plot, and is already iconic
>The only boss people will fondly remember from SoTE is Messmer.
Maybe, who knows. Doesn't change the quality of Bloodborne bosses including the DLC is utter dogshit and Dark Souls 3 had already eclipsed it with its bosses.
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>>484257327
>but it fits right in with the base game's plot.
the plot that they added in? to justify what happened? "aie malaria whisper betwitching branch leonard"
bro
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>>484256264
I already finished the DLC anon sorry
Maria is simply the peak of Souls bosses.
>muh parries
Difficulty is irrelevant. Otherwise Radahn would be peak.
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>>484257327
>>484257610
>Kickass character gets the coolest send-off you could ask for
>Author revives him in follow up in a retarded way that reduces the impact of his earlier send off
Miyahacki can reuse Radahn for the DLC2 final boss and you'll suck him off again
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>>484256693
You are shit at the game.
You got filtered by bayle.
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>>484255826
lol lmao
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>>484256352
>I-IT'S N-NOT S-SUPER HARD AYEEE
As expected. The actual quality of the boss is irrelevant
Go redo Radahn faggot.
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>>484257053
>but the content itself is not the most polished and there is are a lot of elements that seem to be awkwardly tacked on or cut content.
>The older dlcs were more linear to be sure but the story narratives and setting was way more polished.
Delusional, nonsense. Ashes of Ariandel, Ringed City and The Old Hunters are quite literally cut content put back in the game. If there's one game expansion they actually worked from scratch to deliver in terms of assets and fights that's Shadow of the Erdtree. That's also why it has actually new locations and isn't a small theme park ride in small areas or even in the same zones as the base game with different lighting up to each boss.
The quests, movesets, bosses and dungeons are the most developed and numerous. They created a progression system of powerups exactly because Shadow of the Erdtree doesn't follow the format of being a bunch of boss arenas in an endgame gauntlet masquerading as content. Research Hall and Fishing Hamlet are maybe the size of minor dungeons in SotE and never both vertical and large like legacy dungeons.
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>>484257801
>>484257736
But nothing about the base game was retconned. Radahn remains the almighty chad beloved by his men, the festival remains a means by his men to put an end to his suffering. The only thing that's different is that now we know the motive for the battle between him and Malenia; that Malenia started it and ultimately pulled out the scarlet rot trump card because after refusing Miquella's request they had to take him by force, which required him to die. If anything, it retroactively puts Radahn's character in an even better light because now we know he wasn't fighting in the Shattering war just for the fuck of it nor was he driven to do so by the influence of the Great Runes. He really was just down with the Golden Order.
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>>484258769
>>484247856
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>>484257736
The only think the Stars guide is Carians fate, faggot
>>484258438
>As expected. The actual quality of the boss is irrelevant
The quality of Maria is trash. She can be abused and doesn't pose a challenge, what kind of pretentious bullshit argument is that? What is quality? Oh boy I do love completely shutting down a DLC boss from safe distance and have the time to dodge if I ever fuck up.
When the fuck do you /v/ niggers retreat back to your shithole?
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>>484258987
>Mohg never had any sort of character, he was just being mindcontrolled!
>Malenia never has any sort of character, she was just being mindcontrolled!
>It's okay to revive a character that already had a good, thematic death because I liek that character and want to see him again!
>This is all good
Kengan Omega readers, everyone.
Where you expectations subverted?

Again, Messmer and Renalla remain the best part of the DLC.
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>Amerimutt hours
>Quality of the general plummets
every single time
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>>484259208
Woow you can defeat a boss if you know her moveset well, that's new
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>>484259704
what is the quality of a boss?
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How'd the KADOKAWA leak thing go?
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>>484259408
>Messmer and Renalla remain the best part of the DLC.
Pretty much nothing else will be remembered as fondly.
Though the DLC managed to turn ER's into From's weakest setting.
I can't wait to laugh at the retards who think otherwise.
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beast claws have so much forward momentum
how come fists can't get this???
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>>484259903
>Pretty much nothing else will be remembered as fondly.
The fuck? You won't remember "Sunflower: but big"? And "Radahn: but boar"?
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>>484259903
>>Messmer and Renalla remain the best part of the DLC.
>Pretty much nothing else will be remembered as fondly.
If you keep repeating this, I'm sure people will actually believe this
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>>484259408
>Renalla
Rellana. And Rennala's name isn't spelled like that.
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>>484260246
>Malenia
>Melina
>Godrick
>Godwyn
>Godfrey
>Godefroy
>Rellana
>Rennala
Fuck this game's naming
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>>484259208
>she can be abused!
So can every boss ever made.
>g-go b-back to /v/
Please fuck off with that shit. If anyone's the normalfag tourist to these games pretending they're SUPER HARDCORE DIFFICULT then it's you. Again your ilk is the reason we got fucking Radahn.
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>So can every boss ever made.
Nice deflecting. Maria phase 3 is quite literally a tamer and less complex Abyss Watcher phase 2. (You) set up this comparison because you came here to shitpost
>SUPER HARDCORE DIFFICULT
Here's the thing, dear shitposting secondary, how complex and well made a boss is has nothong to do with how easy it is. Malenia is easier than Friede but less abusable due to not having easy backstab punishes and having hyperarmored dodges that attack (meaning if you blindly spam you can hit her when she is dodging and get hit at the end of her animation). This is a fix to Friede dodge being nullified by collisions with the boss arena that made her potentially breakable. Friede's dodge itself was a fix to how abusable and breakable Maria was. But the discourse you are trying to bring up is not about the technicalities and quality of boss fights, you just want to shitpost and dogpile on the newest From game with your shit tier meme opinion of a /v/ nigger
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>>484259514
Good thing nobody cares about your opinion.
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>>484261242
You kind of nullify your own point when you use the one mechanic across all soulsborne games specifically designed to trivialize fights for people with the skill to do it consistently. Bloodborne's gun parry is the easiest of the series.
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>>484245326
Even if he pulls you in you can evade his follow-up attack by simply running away from him
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This thing is great

>>484246476
A lot of alchemy back then was just proto-chemistry with the practioners talking in code to keep from stealing each other’s ideas. A recipe could say “phoenix ashes,” when referring to saltpeter or gunpowder, but if you didn’t know the alchemist who wrote it, you wouldn’t know what they were talking about. You see it in other sciences of the time, too. Look up Galileo’s scrambled, cryptic message to a friend after discovering Saturn’s rings.
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>>484262418
>talking in code to keep from stealing each other’s ideas.
They talked in code because the church saw alchemy as blasphemous.
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>>484255661
Executioner Axe is next best after Misercorde. Lightning Misericorde is best btw. Does INSANE damage to wet players.
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>>484243710
everytimeiseeyourthumbnailithinkitssailormoonholdingacheeseburger
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>>484263020
Maybe after the Inquisition. The church didn’t care about alchemy or magic for a long time, as long as it was being done for “good.” The term “black magic,” exists due to the need to clarify magic being done for evil purposes.
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>>484263020
Because it was. While there were roots of chemistry in it, the actual practice was mostly just blind occultism without any real scientific method or rigors behind it. More alchemists died by accidentally poisoning themselves than by church intervention, and the principle that "maybe the world is made up of smaller stuff that can interact in various controlled ways" wasn't itself heretical or inconvenient to the church in the same way that astronomy challenged medieval cosmology. But most alchemists were trying to make pacts with demons and summon succubi housewives and instead kept making mustard gas.
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>>484247612
>>484247028
In other stories, the maidens are the ones doing the seducing their champion into madness.
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I hate doing new runs in Elden ring because it takes forever to grab stuff and fuck NG+. Wish I could fight previous bosses like godrick without having to restart. Or help people at lower levels fight early bosses. They could just scale down your specs depending on the host’s level
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>>484261242
A bit late but you still don't understand the point
For starters, a boss' quality is about more than either the difficulty and the mechanical complexities of a fight. The build up, the music, the story behind the fight all matter. In that sense you can't genuinely say antyhing in this DLC holds a candle to Maria, Ludwig or Orphan.
Secondly, and speaking TO the mechanical complexity of the fight, the ability to abuse a certain mechanic to trivialize the fight is entirely down to the player. I can trivialize every damn fight in ER if I wish, in fact FAR easier than I could BB or DS3. This is due to the scope of builds you've got for the game. If I want I'll fucking comet Azur every fucking boss and be done with it.
The fact you ruined two absolutely amazing boss battles in Maria and Friede by abusing an overpowered mechanic like parry doesn't speak ill of the boss' mechanically. Saying that is saying that Gwyn is a bad boss because you can parry kill him. He isn't.
And finally
>Malenia is easier than Friede
In what world? Malenia is a boss with an overpowered move that CAN NOT be dodged consistently and can only be blocked in a fight where blocking is an attrition loss due to her lifesteal.
Nothing in Friede is unfair to that level.
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>>484269093
hmm godefroy exists
>>484255058
>onr have the rightbased tranny blockers
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>>484271229
>The build up, the music, the story behind the fight all matter.
>In that sense you can't genuinely say antyhing in this DLC holds a candle to Maria, Ludwig or Orphan.
No, Maria, Orphan of Kos, Ludwig are all dogshit trash bosses. Pinwheel is the greatest most beautful, heart-wrenching and emotional fight in the history of the entire medium.
I could listen for hours to this disturbing but elegant theme as I descend in the depths of catacombs, right into a trecherous arena. https://youtu.be/ClpmaGDdNC8?si=7t3IoYmt2UhPJGms
A quick glance at him, and he teleports, the music builds up as I'm surrounded by multiple copies. This is truly Miyazaki best boss. Why? Because I say so based on the bullshit subjective criterias I pulled out of my ass
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>>484274865
>subjective criteria
These are not subjectice criteria.
Anyway, I see we're done. You've devolved to using strawmans and ironic shitposting. I've nothing more to say to you
Just remember everyone with a brain disagrees with you. You're alone in your cope.
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>>484271229
Nobody talked about builds or cheese. Maria is just pathetic on her own as a boss when fought normally
>The hecking story and music
Radahn consort atmosphere, music and story is immaculate, Bayle has the best looking arena ever made on top of a mountain, with one of the coolest quest, the DLC has NPCs interacting and fighting each other in a very emotional fight, Messmer has equal if not even better presence to Ludwig but with more involvement with base game characters in his backstory and a lot of implications tied to the reveal of his character, which makes the scene of his realizing Marika's abandonment even more emotional. Shadow of the Erdtree is full of great moments, you can prefer TOH, but spare me this bootleg vidya essayist crap. Next you'll start talking about soul vs soulless
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>>484275798
>Radahn consort atmosphere, music and story is immaculate,
No, absolutely not. It was terribly set up and absolutely shit. The only saving grace is the music but it doesn't save the rest
>Bayle
Never said Bayle wasn't great. Just not as good
>Messmer
Was okay. Not even as good as Bayle.
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>music and story are not subjective
Did you pull the good-o-meter to measure how good the music and story of each boss are?
Faggot
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>>484275981
You are a massive faggot who tried to spin around the simple fact that Bloodborne bosses are shit, then tried to give his own criteria of what makes a boss good to win the argument, and those criteria are entirely subjective. Now you can't accept other's opinions.

I say Consort Radahn is a fantastic boss, it was set up by many questlines and not just references like Ludwig and Orphan, and Miquella's theme of self-determination and defying Fate works well with Radahn's backstory of standing against the Stars to alter his family's Fate

I also say that Godfrey's words about crowns being warranted with Strength is a great way to hint that Malenia, Blade of Miquella, fought Radahn exactly to force him into servitude as Lord and Consort, a very japanese concept of vassalism where the Leader defeats characters that join him, a concept harder to grasp fpr westerners, and that Miyazaki is a genious for having foreshadowed with Malenia fighting as champion of Miquella that the player is the same in the festival later on, so that Radahn can accept Miquella as worthy God

I think Messmer is the most tragic character From ever wrote, and doesn't feel like a cheap attempt at tear-jerking, so it was very well made, moreso than Gwyn or Orphan of Kos, because I can actually symphatize with his human drama.

Now you may disagree, you may think I'm wrong, but by your own standards those are just as valid as claims of SotE having superior boss quality compared to the Old Hunters as yours in favour of The Old Hunters bosses.



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