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Welcome to the Super Mario Bros. General, in this kingdom of ours here we discuss everything MARIO! Let's continue the Paisano journey!

/smbg/ #217 - Glamorous Cosmic Mama Edition

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>Mario News and Releases<
「!」Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door has officially released!
「!」Luigi’s Mansion 2 HD has officially released!

Future Release Dates:
「!」Super Mario Party Jamboree releases on October 17th, 2024
「!」Mario & Luigi: Brothership releases on November 7th, 2024
「!」Donkey Kong Country Returns HD releases on January 16th, 2025
「!」Mario Movie 2 -potentially- releases on April 3rd, 2026

Current News Links:
「!」Super Mario Party Jamboree Official Website (JPN) & Pauline trailer
https://www.nintendo.com/jp/switch/a7hla/index.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgNfiHcQqHk
「!」"Zapper & Score SP" is a Mario-centric light-gun game featured in the Nintendo Museum
https://youtu.be/JApUMBscKOc?t=479
「!」Super Mario Party Jamboree Officially Revealed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKp9cD4e8ac
「!」Donkey Kong Country Returns HD Officially Revealed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdjam3yHC-4
「!」Mario & Luigi: Brothership Officially Revealed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5I3DcapElQ

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>General Paisano Links
https://www.mariowiki.com/
https://www.suppermariobroth.com/

>Netplay Guide
https://pastebin.com/kZVHmZGR

>SMA4 level editor (SMA4 Mods - Smaghetti)
https://smaghetti.com/

>SM64 Mod ROM hacks [ replace () with a dot ]
https://rentry()co/romhacks (Guide for newer players & for interest)
https://romhacking()com/

>Etc. Interest
Post any SMM2 / SMW levels ya' got!
Post gameplay videos!
Share your Strikers club and builds!

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First for Peachy.
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>>492736545
>What is your personal "Fuck You, I Liked It" Mario/extended Marioverse game?
Im going to call Galaxy 2 because apparently there's a considerable amount of people that take issues with it for some reason.
Still, dont know if we can even say that when it comes to Mario games because there are not many commonly hated Mario games to choose.
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>had a dream where I got to go on a car ride with Luigi
I don't know where we were going, but I was happy.
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>>492758593
Are you the same anon that kept having dreams of Luigi? If so, it's nice that you're still having Luigi dreams. Either way, who was driving? What did the road look like?
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WHICH IS THE RIGHT THREAD?
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>>492758884
I don't remember who was at the wheel, but as for the road, it looked like a road me and family used to take when traveling to visit other family. It was nice, short as it was.
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>>492759330
The one that was posted earlier, so the other one, duh.
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>>492759330
This one, the second one is two minutes late than this one. I explicitly made sure that no other thread was posted before this one too. Filled template first, then constantly refreshed the catalog multiple times to triple check, then posted. The other two threads popped up soon after.
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>>492759894
Weird, it says for me that this thread was created 2 minutes after the other one?
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>>492760370
Actually no, Im stupid. This thread is the one with the 2 minute delay KEK. That's weird, I made sure no other thread was posted before this one, even with the triple checking a thread manaded to pop up. Sorry about that.
I'd rather not make this into a general-picking fight like other generals have dibe, so Im fine with whichever thread gets picked (although since this one already has discussion, might as well stick with this one)
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>>492757629
Don't people usually say Galaxy 2 is better than Galaxy 1 in every aspect except story?
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Daisy, my beloved.
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>>492757629
The only people who hate it are nu-tendofags because it's not on Switch.
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UR MR GAY
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>>492757629
Most people enjoyed Galaxy 2. I think it's mostly storybookfags who had a problem with it.
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mario retardy at twitch dot tv slash superstarman25
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>>492783294
I thought Mario Retardy was a weekly thing, is it daily now?
>>>/v/687370009
>>>/v/687471570
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>>492784609
I don't know, but it's dumb and everyone who posts about it acts like an idiot.
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>>492757629
I never saw a single comment about Galaxy 2 being bad before the Switch collection not including it. Some complain about the game being a expansion pack and having no story, but no one ever said it's bad.
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>>492763294
Peach is still the better bimbo
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DONKEY KONG CEREAL!
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>>492763294
Nice
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>>492784609
That active thread was a ride, both the topical discussion and the derailing shitpost. Im surprised none of it has made its way over here... not that I complain, desu.

Also, I saw someone make a Tanooki Peach as some sort of meta joke and my brain went autopilot.
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>>492755507
>Share your Strikers club and builds!

Does anyone even play this shit anymore? Dumb Sportsfag.
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>>492809427
Thanks for the awesome drawing, dude
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I love Luigi
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>>492818987
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>>492811590
Why do you always get mad at nothing, dumb insane zoombafag.
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>>492809427
Thought you already knew about Tax queen, karma (a Tom Nook + Princess Peach fusion). Either way, based.
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>>492826348
I hope MistareFusion does more Mario content after he finishes his Donkey Kong Retrospective.
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>>492833670
>brown Daisy
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>>492834409
She's a desert princess.
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>>492836214
It's sad how people twist themselves into pretzels to deny this.
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>>492837996
>She's a desert princess.
Are you falseflagging or just this stupid?
This general has talked about the annoyance of calling Sarasaland "just a desert" (Fanon fueled by the normalfags) countless times since it's a actually bunch of different kingdoms. I actually like brown tan Daisy content, and it seems like you want to make those fans look even more dumb by getting the character this wrong on purpose.
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>>492838036
You realise that the Mushroom Kingdom is made made up of deserts, jungles and all that nonsense as well, right? World 1 is the home region for Peach and Daisy. Or do you think that people should draw Peach as a desert dweller? It's pretty dumb to act like Daisy isn't a desert princess.
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>>492838408
>You realise that the Mushroom Kingdom is made made up of deserts, jungles and all that nonsense as well, right? World 1 is the home region for Peach and Daisy. Or do you think that people should draw Peach as a desert dweller? It's pretty dumb to act like Daisy isn't a desert princess.
It's never confirmed where Daisy's castle is located compared to Peach's though. It could be anywhere in the four Sarasaland kingdoms, not just the desert area (Birabuto Kingdom, which is governed by King Totomesu, not Daisy. She owns the entire country)
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>>492839195
>It's never confirmed where Daisy's castle is located compared to Peach's though.
It's pretty safe to say World 1. We have no reason to believe otherwise. World 1 in the Mushroom Kingdom is always the place closest to the castle, aside from exceptions like Mario U specifically launching Mario and co. away from the castle. World 1 is where Florian's Castle is. In the end, Nintendo's conventions demand that Daisy lives in World 1.
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Super Bump Bros.
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Mario says: If you need-a to bump-a a general-a, then-a the general-a should-a die-a!
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>>492839195
>>492840645
We already know where Daisy's castle is actually, it's on a grassy hill. This is shown in a Japanese instruction booklet. Since the "resort" in Daisy Circuit is also shown in a grassy area, we can conclude that she doesn't dwell in deserts.
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Mario says: This Zoombafag guy should-a leave this general forever!
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>>492848007
Mario doesn't pronounce "-a" for every literal word, secondary.
>>492849531
based.
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>>492848932
>instruction booklet.
Not canon.
>Since the "resort" in Daisy Circuit is also shown in a grassy area,
Daisy Circuit could be in any of the four kingdoms.
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>>492850065
>Not canon.
That's your headcanon. Mario doesn't have a canon. Therefore, everything that is officially released is canon, especially a Japanese manual that came with the game.
>Daisy Circuit could be in any of the four kingdoms.
It can't be in a desert, though.
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>>492851282
>Therefore, everything that is officially released is canon,
Wrong. For example, Super Mario Kun does things completely different to the games.
>It can't be in a desert, though.
That doesn't matter when Daisy is the ruler of all of Sarasaland. She could put a track in any of her kingdoms, but that doesn't mean that she lives in that kingdom in her domain. Plus, if it was in the desert, Daisy would have opted to pretty it up to promote tourism and the like.
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Who's the worst character?
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>>492852574
Begins with a D.
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>>492852524
>Super Mario Kun does things completely different to the games.
That's irrelevant, there's no canon.
>but that doesn't mean that she lives in that kingdom in her domain.
But that, along with the castle, strongly suggests against her living in a castle. The grass in Daisy Circuit is also on hills in the background so it's unlikely that's also part of the tourism promotion. This is all on top of the fact that there is only one kingdom in Sarasaland that is a desert, this is all pretty much stacked up against you.

The image of the castle appears to be actually from a manga during the 90's and not from an instruction manual, got that very wrong earlier. Perhaps someone else can confirm it.
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>>492853141
*strongly suggests against her living in a desert
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Stop taking the retard's bait already.
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>NDCube has changed their name to Nintendo Cube
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>>492853141
>That's irrelevant, there's no canon.
In that case, your non-canon manga doesn't mean anything. It never did to begin with, considering that manga/comics are never canon, and that using your own logic with Daisy Circuit, it can't be Chai Kingdom because that's just ancient china and a place like Daisy Circuit is completely out of place, even more than if it was some place Daisy souped up in Birabuto.
>This is all on top of the fact that there is only one kingdom in Sarasaland that is a desert, this is all pretty much stacked up against you.
If it's World 1, that's where the princess lives. It's the universal truth.
But if you're really trying to avoid Daisy being brown, the Muda Kingdom is based on Bermuda which means that she should be black, the Easton Kingdom is based on the Easter Islands, meaning that she should also be brown or black. The whitest you get is Chai since it's based on China, but Chai is completely inconsistent with Daisy Circuit, so it can't be Chai.
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>>492736545
Lost Levels is literally my favorite Mario game.

People exaggerate its "problems" to massive degrees and usually don't even know what they're talking about, e.g. you don't have to beat the game multiple times in a row to get the extra worlds, the game saves how many times you beat it.

Those worlds were fun extras you'd see after beating the game a bunch if you liked it, if you don't like it anyway why even feel obligated to get the bonus content?

Many of my fellow Nintendo fans are honestly just shitters, same reason so many people call Zelda 2 bad when it's just different.
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>>492854940
>manga/comics are never canon
Did Nintendo say this?
>If it's World 1, that's where the princess lives.
Did Nintendo say this?
>But if you're really trying to avoid Daisy being brown
She isn't brown, she has never depicted her as brown except due to lighting on the N64. Official art all has her white of various tones. White people are able to live in deserts and have colonized them in the past, that doesn't make them change race.
>Muda Kingdom is based on Bermuda which means that she should be black
Bermuda was discovered by the Spanish, and the kingdom is inspired by the Bermuda triangle not the island. Bermuda's terrain doesn't resemble Muda Kingdom.
>meaning that she should also be brown or black.
Daisy is colored pale so this discussion is irrelevant. White people live on both places. Since she's a princess and Bermuda is owned by UK and Easter Island Chile it makes sense that she'd be white and not brown. She's either white or Japanese. But not brown.
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>>492855803
>Did Nintendo say this?
They always contradict the games. Nintendo didn't explicitly say the anime movie wasn't canon, does that mean that Bowser works part time at Mario's store?
>Did Nintendo say this?
They did when they did it in every game.
>She isn't brown,
She was brown on the N64 and early gamecube.
>he kingdom is inspired by the Bermuda triangle not the island.
It's based on Bermuda, not the Bermuda Triangle. I trust wiki autists more.
>Daisy is colored pale so this discussion is irrelevant.
It isn't since she was brown on the N64 and her Gamecube debut.
> Since she's a princess and Bermuda is owned by UK and Easter Island Chile it makes sense that she'd be white and not brown.
That's cope. No princesses are colonisers as the Mario world doesn't have concepts like that, and they're neighbouring kingdoms that Daisy governs, they're not spread across the world. Bermuda isn't bordering the UK.
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She's white. She has been for as long as she's existed.
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>>492859251
She looks pretty brown to me.
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>>492860793
Same skin color as Mario and Luigi. Might as well argue they're "from the desert" too, by this retarded logic. Post examples from actual Mario games.
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>>492860908
Mario is italian.
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>>492860908
Mario and Luigi used to be brown.
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>>492861194
>>492861389
Waiting for you to post her renders.
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I miss brown Mario. He was cool.
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>>492860793
>Smash bros
Faggot, post actual Mario game renders if you want to be taken seriously.
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>>492861389
>Mario and Luigi used to be brown.
>bad lighting.
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>>492861487
>>492861742
But also Melee's trophies were used to show what characters were meant to look like in Nintendo's new era with the graphics having improved. It's why even Peach's Daisy outfit has the tan.
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>>492861948
He still looks brown to me.
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>>492861389
>>492862156
>posting scans which are notorious for looking darker than they should
>>492861948 is a clean render. Let me do the job for you, since you want to be disengenuous.
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>>492861956
>But also Melee's trophies were used to show what characters were meant to look like in Nintendo's new era with the graphics having improved. It's why even Peach's Daisy outfit has the tan.
Melee just reused other game models poorly for trophies.
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>>492862402
There's plenty of brown Daisy to go around. Her skin just looks lighter there because of the light.
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>>492862534
No, that was Smash 4. Melee used some N64 models, but it spent a lot of time transitioning characters to 3D.
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>>492862918
The highlights of her skin are literally the exact same, this one just uses harsher shadows. I think you just don't want to come to terms with the fact that you've been believing a fan-made lie for years. It sucks being led on with bullshit, but this is just the truth. The fact that she's been lighter skinned than allegedly "not" is proof she was always meant to be on the pale side. I don't know what else to tell you. If you want to keep believing it, then whatever.
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>>492863710
You're just desperate for Daisy to not be brown. She is.
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>>492864179
Nope. Sorry. I don't make the rules, Nintendo does.
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>>492857094
>They always contradict the games.
So do the games themselves. Mario and Luigi relearn how hammers work in each rpg for example.
>She was brown on the N64 and early gamecube.
That's due to the lighting in the games, the official renders show her pale.
>It's based on Bermuda, not the Bermuda Triangle.
The Super Mario wiki says it's the triangle. It's the triangle that is known for aliens not the island itself.
> No princesses are colonisers as the Mario world doesn't have concepts like that
There is Little Fungitown in the Beanbean Kingdom
>Bermuda isn't bordering the UK.
You tried to make the argument that since they're based on real locations, that proves she's brown. So now you're saying that the real locations don't count when it doesn't suit you.
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>>492862918
White and asian people can tan to that, but brown people can't become pale.
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>>492864457
>Mario and Luigi relearn how hammers work in each rpg for example.
Except they aren't clueless about how they work in each RPG.
>the official renders show her pale.
There's plenty showing her tan.
>The Super Mario wiki says it's the triangle.
The Super Mario wiki says it's Bermuda. Check the Sarasaland page.
>There is Little Fungitown in the Beanbean Kingdom
That's a community of immigrants.
> So now you're saying that the real locations don't count when it doesn't suit you.
You're using faulty comparisons unlike me.
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>>492864647
It's more that Nintendo whitewashed her, like they whitewashed Mario and Luigi.
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>>492834409
>Luigi has almost exact skin tone
>but Daisy is like 15 shades darker for no fucking reason
I'm growning to outright hate these idiots trying to draw her "tanned".
That isn't a tan.
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The great relief is that Daisy's old skin color will come back. Nintendo can't hold themselves back forever, as new staff start to outnumber the hold outs they'll have no choice.
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>>492865962
Sorry, thread schizo, but your attempts to LARP as a tumblrtranny aren't going to make things magically turn in your favor. But if it really ass pains you that much, maybe write Nintendo a letter like that Fawful dude. Who knows? Maybe they'll actually listen to your rambling.
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>>492866278
I'm just saying the truth here. Just as Sunshinefags forced Bowser Jr to get a tech demo, Daisy will get her redesign.
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isn't it weird how it's only western artists who do this shit? you know, the people who are always obsessing over skin color? I never see jap artists doing it, only the typical twitter crowd
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>>492865307
>Except they aren't clueless about how they work in each RPG.
Yes they are, Stawlow has to teach them how to do it in BiS.
>There's plenty showing her tan.
That's a lighter tan, she looks darker due to the lighting. Most white people can tan.
>The Super Mario wiki says it's Bermuda. Check the Sarasaland page.
Check the page for Muda Kingdom.
>That's a community of immigrants.
Why haven't the intergreated with Beanbean Kingdom people? There are also toad explorers in PiT.
>You're using faulty comparisons unlike me.
How is it a faulty comparison? You brought up that Bermuda has a large population of black people, but it also is owned by UK which is mainly white people and ruled by a white royal family.

>>492865468
It's the other way around, she was originally very pale and later given a tan. then twitter racists decided to brown wash her.
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>>492866567
Yep, and it's always in ugly western cartoon style too.
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>>492867158
>Stawlow has to teach them how to do it in BiS.
She's just a know it all assumer.
>That's a lighter tan, she looks darker due to the lighting. Most white people can tan.
She's brown.
>Check the page for Muda Kingdom.
Sarasaland seems more trustworthy because people don't really remember the name of the Sarasaland kingdoms.
>Why haven't the intergreated with Beanbean Kingdom people?
The same reason there are 10 million Little Italys.
>How is it a faulty comparison?
Because I mentioned the population of Bermuda, while being based on the location doesn't mean that it's in the exact same political situation. It's overthinking it.
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Gonna have to agree, it's only western fans who make a stink about this topic. The Japanese side seems to all agree on how she looks.
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>>492867972
That's not an excuse, there are clearly contradictory things in Mario. Like how many castles Peach has. When we don't have an official source from a game or the guide, the manga is the best thing for us to get information from. And it says that Daisy's castle is not in a desert.
>She's brown.
No, she's a white person with a tan, a brown person is brown.
>The same reason there are 10 million Little Italys.
What reason is that?
>It's overthinking it.
Bringing up the most common race on Bermuda Island was already over thinking it. It's ruled by a white monarch from a white country, and Daisy happens to be a princess. There is also a significant community of white people there, mainly brits. So actually, bringing up Bermuda Island is a good argument for her being white.
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>>492868909
>Like how many castles Peach has.
She just likes it remodel it. Mario Maker 2 shows how it's hardly any trouble to do so.
>the manga is the best thing for us to get information from
It isn't. The best is the games.
>No, she's a white person with a tan,
She's a lightskinned brown woman.
>What reason is that?
It's just an immigrant community. It's like Chinatown. They all group together. The Beanbean Kingdom isn't a colony of the Mushroom Kingdom. Take for example, how the Beanbean Kingdom is much more prosperous than the Mushroom Kingdom.
>Bringing up the most common race on Bermuda Island was already over thinking it.
Not when discussing that Daisy should be brown. Most Bermudans are black. Bringing up Bermuda is a good example of why Daisy shouldn't be white.
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>>492869863
Why are the castles in different locations? Your explanation is headcanon.
>It isn't. The best is the games.
You took that out of context, without the games you can look in the manga for information.
>She's a lightskinned brown woman.
That's not a thing, and she has white features anyway as well as an English name
>It's just an immigrant community.
What is a colony then? How does this refute that Daisy could possibly just be a white person from a desert, if she's actually from a desert when she isn't?
>Most Bermudans are black.
Have they ever had a black monarch in their history?
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>>492870525
>Why are the castles in different locations?
They might seem like they are, but it's just that toad town is as pliable as the castle.
>without the games you can look in the manga for information.
Without the games at best you only have dev interviews.
>That's not a thing,
It is.
>What is a colony then?
To colonise a place requires political control over a place. It's all controlled by the Beanbean Kingdom. Even the embassy while being able to shield against some local laws would be completely beholden to the Beanbean Kingdom.
>How does this refute that Daisy could possibly just be a white person from a desert
You went on this tangent. Daisy is a brown person from the desert, bermuda, or the easter islands.
>Have they ever had a black monarch in their history?
That isn't relevant to Muda.
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>>492872507
>but it's just that toad town is as pliable as the castle.
The terrain changes
>Without the games at best you only have dev interviews.
Why should we not count manga as canon?
> Daisy is a brown person from the desert, bermuda, or the easter islands.
You started the argument that being from a desert means you have to be brown. Daisy is a white princess from a grassy hill. You argument requires to select which parts you don't consider canon.
>That isn't relevant to Muda.
Nor Bermuda Island having a large black population, yet you brought it up.
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At least this dumbass discussion is keeping the thread bumped, I guess.
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>>492873128
We've discovered more reasons why Daisy is white
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>>492873283
I mean, she always was. Not sure why this is even an argument.
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>>492873009
>The terrain changes
It's no surprise that it does after all of Bowser's kidnappings. Imagine how many times that Bowser's just bulldozed everything when he's giant around Peach's castle.
>Why should we not count manga as canon?
The manga wasn't worked on by Nintendo. May as well say that Captain N is canon.
>You started the argument that being from a desert means you have to be brown
That's correct though.
>Daisy is a white princess from a grassy hil
She isn't.
>Nor Bermuda Island having a large black population
That is, since it's the population of Muda. Real life politics are not.
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Hilariously, saying someone has to look a certain way because of where they were born borders on actual racist rhetoric.
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At least you're admitting that she was born in the desert now.
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>>492875026
Not at all, just picking apart a weak argument. I firmly believe she lives in a place that's grassy like Peach does.
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>>492874209
>Samus Fucking Aran getting shipped with the Captain N MC
This has to be some writer's self inserting bullshit, Im sure of it. Either way, what the fuck.
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>>492875172
>Not at all,
Your argument switched from "she isn't from the desert" to "how DARE you assume she has to be brown because she's from the desert".
>I firmly believe she lives in a place that's grassy like Peach does.
One we never ever see? None of the kingdoms are like that.
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>>492875571
They had to introduce her to replace the non-Nintendo characters in Captain N's crew.
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>princess obsessed with flowers lives someplace where flowers are the least likely to exist
I'm more willing to believe she lives on a grassy hill covered in flowers than someplace that's dry and barren, sorry anon.
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>>492876282
If you knew anything about plants, there are even desert daisies. But Daisy would naturally go to every kingdom anyway as their ruler, so she would have an interest in local varieties in her kingdoms.
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>>492876681
Yeah she would, but why would she lord over a place that already has its own king? it makes more sense for her to be in a castle that sits between the four kingdoms like is shown in the manga, and I'm more willing to believe that than whatever bs you're peddling.
>but it's not canon
It's more evidence than whatever the contrary is
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>>492876937
>why would she lord over a place that already has its own king
It's just some dumb sphinx. The king is her sub-ordinate. Though I do wonder what happened after all of her advisors were killed by Mario and she decided to just play golf and tennis instead of doing anything. Might be that Sarasaland basically dissolved.
> it makes more sense for her to be in a castle that sits between the four kingdoms like is shown in the manga
If it's not in the game it's not canon. There's 0 mention of this outside of like one non-canon manga.
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>>492876253
I suppose one can excuse whatever the hell they were thinking with character portrayals back then considering it was the early days of all IPs, Mario included... but you cant help but find this Samus portrayal to be hilariously wrong when you compare it to her current character design. I wonder what they were aiming for with her in those comics. The sci-fi equivalent of Wonder Woman?
>also
On the cursed subject of Samus and romance, I like to think Samus would be the last person in the galaxy to be interested in romance or sex and the only person she ever felt something even remotely close to love was Adam and even then calling it "romantic affection" would be a titanic stretch.
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>>492877904
Well, if you want to seriously argue against the 30+ years of her being light skinned then you do you, I guess
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>>492877945
The comic came out in 1990, so the only Metroid game was the original at this point. I think she was really just meant to be included to stir up romance stuff with Captain N and whatever the princess is called.
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>>492877904
>It's just some dumb sphinx. The king is her sub-ordinate. Though I do wonder what happened after all of her advisors were killed by Mario and she decided to just play golf and tennis instead of doing anything. Might be that Sarasaland basically dissolved.
Mario didn't kill them, just knocked them out
>T-They exploded
So what. Game limitations. Bosses have exploded before. Whomp King basically crumbled and came back again. M&L bosses always explode but are just knocked out in the next cutscene.
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>>492874209
>Imagine how many times that Bowser's just bulldozed everything when he's giant around Peach's castle.
You mean transformed the entire landscape, and that is headcanon.
>The manga wasn't worked on by Nintendo.
It was officially licensed. Nintendo has never said there is a canon and that it is not canon.
>That's correct though.
It isn't, europeans colonized north Africa and they aren't brown.
>Real life politics are not.
The population of Bermuda is real life politics.
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>>492879608
Mario supported the Shroob holocaust. Mario is not tolerant.
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>>492880030
>Mario supported the Shroob holocaust. Mario is not tolerant.
Did you SEE what the Shroobs race did to Toads and other species? There's understanding a mutual scuffle in the moment, and then there's pure evil.
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>>492880241
>All of the Shroob race is responsible
Mario is not tolerant, though he did accept Shroobs at face value.
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something something dramafag
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>>492880521
>>All of the Shroob race is responsible
>Mario is not tolerant, though he did accept Shroobs at face value.
Shroobs are a hivemind-like species. There's not much individuality. Also Shroobs began killing themselves to try and defeat Mario and Luigi and take over the world along with multiple timelines. (Elder Princess Shroob
even attacked her own kind and ufo-like ships to help do it)
Mario can't reason with a species like this, even when trying to.
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>>492880241
Toads suck, so what they did is justified.
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>>492881221
So Mario is intolerant. Bowser managed to freeze them so their species wouldn't become extinct. If Mario cared, he wouldn't celebrate their genocide. When did Mario ever try to reason with them?
>There's not much individuality.
Not true, they're as individual as toads.
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>>492880803
he lost the other argument so he's moving on to the next one
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>>492881706
>So Mario is intolerant. Bowser managed to freeze them so their species wouldn't become extinct. If Mario cared, he wouldn't celebrate their genocide. When did Mario ever try to reason with them?
The first thing they did out of the freezer was attack with ray guns. List all the good Shroobs did, they were pure evil. They literally were genociding other species. There's tolerant, and being just plain stupid. "Intolerant" or "Intolerance" isn't a concept with Shroobs. That Mario quote is seeing what the species are on the inside first, and Shroob's insides are as ugly as the outside.
>Not true, they're as individual as toads.
There own Queen used them as disposable weapons. You're literally ignoring that fact to advocate for them.
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>>492882672
They had nowhere else to go to survive. Mario could have at least tried but didn't bother.
>There own Queen used them as disposable weapons. You're literally ignoring that fact to advocate for them.
That's called kamikaze, there's nothing to ignore it's just a style of warfare. It actually shows how devoted they were to the cause.
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>>492882950
>They had nowhere else to go to survive. Mario could have at least tried but didn't bother.
The first thing they did was attack. Shroobs saw Mario discussing with Starlow and still attacked.
>>There own Queen used them as disposable weapons. You're literally ignoring that fact to advocate for them.
>That's called kamikaze, there's nothing to ignore it's just a style of warfare. It actually shows how devoted they were to the cause.
The cause...to genocide multiple timelines.
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notice how he can't list anything good the shroobs did. fuck those little bastards
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>>492883150
They didn't cause genocide at all, and they only staged a campaign in the past it was just Princess Shroob who tried to infiltrate the present. They attacked, because it was unclear where they would go.
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>>492883835
>They didn't cause genocide at all, and they only staged a campaign in the past it was just Princess Shroob who tried to infiltrate the present. They attacked, because it was unclear where they would go.
>They didn't cause genocide at all
This senseless absolute evil would disagree, it had to be stopped.
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>>492884428
Shroobs using species energy to harness fuel for their ships by the way. The Toads didn't deserve all this. Poor Toadiko.
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On the subject of moral paradoxes, here's a worse one: Who says Bowser was in the wrong for "stealing" the power stars and attempt to "take over" the cosmos when Rosalina "holds possession" of the power stars to "take care" of the cosmos? What assures us Rosalina isnt in the wrong here? What assures us she is the one doing the right thing?

Food for thought, motherfuckers.
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>it's just the seething bowsercuck
lol
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>>492885449
Bowser's an asshole who just laid siege to a kingdom for coochie.
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>>492879740
>You mean transformed the entire landscape
He actually did do that once in NSMBU.
>It was officially licensed.
So is Hotel Mario, except at least that's a game.
> europeans colonized north Africa and they aren't brown.
The current population is mostly brown.
>The population of Bermuda is real life politics.
Not politics concerned with Mario.
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>>492885449
Odyssey killed that paradox
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If power moons are power stars why didn't Bowser just buy like 240 instead of just stealing Peach's?
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>>492903143
>paying for Stars when you can take them from your wife
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>>492903143
Because Grand stars are not the same as a power star.
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>>492903292
Yeah, but I'm talking about Mario 64.
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>>492899743
>He actually did do that once in NSMBU.
Not to the level of geography changes that happen between other games
>The current population is mostly brown.
And there's a significant white european diaspora
>Not politics concerned with Mario.
There is no politics that concern Mario, and certainly not the population of Bermuda.
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>>492907759
>Not to the level of geography changes that happen between other games
You can assume that other incidents alter the landscape a lot.
>And there's a significant white european diaspora
Still mostly brown.
>There is no politics that concern Mario,
There's an episode of Super Mario 3 that disagrees with you.
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>>492908248
>You can assume that other incidents alter the landscape a lot.
If you can assume that, then you can assume that the manga's depiction of Sarasaland is canon.
>Still mostly brown.
But white people in it, disproving your assertion that everyone from deserts is brown.
>There's an episode of Super Mario 3 that disagrees with you.
But that's surely not canon, no?
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>>492884428
Would Mario and Luigi kill Bowser for good if he ever crossed that line?
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>>492908796
>then you can assume that the manga's depiction of Sarasaland is canon
No, because we see Bowser change things in game.
> disproving your assertion that everyone from deserts is brown.
The white people aren't native.
>But that's surely not canon, no?
No, but you probably would consider it so. More canon than the manga anyway.
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>>492911130
But it's never shown him making those specific changes.
>The white people aren't native.
If they were born there they are native.
> More canon than the manga anyway.
The manga was produced and released in Japan while the other is american. So actually the manga should be more canon.
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>>492911753
>But it's never shown him making those specific changes.
We know he has the capability to.
>If they were born there they are native.
This is talk that doesn't belong in a Mario general.
> So actually the manga should be more canon.
That's pretty racist. Mario 3 is more canon (but still not canon) because it's a show.
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>>492912360
>We know he has the capability to.
But it isn't shown. Unlike Daisy's castle that has an official drawing.
>This is talk that doesn't belong in a Mario general.
Then don't bring it up. there are white people who come from north Africa, that's a fact.
>because it's a show.
Why? The manga is actually Japanese so it would be much more likely to reflect Nintendo's intentions.
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>>492912864
>Unlike Daisy's castle that has an official drawing.
Not in a game unlike Bowser reshaping landscapes.
>here are white people who come from north Africa, that's a fact.
Those are descendants of people who stole from the natives.
>The manga is actually Japanese so it would be much more likely to reflect Nintendo's intentions.
No, because Super Mario Kun was definitely not what Nintendo was thinking of.
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>>492914116
>Not in a game unlike Bowser reshaping landscapes.
But the specific landscape changes in your headcanon aren't in the games. It's just made up by you. And you're saying that's more canon than an officially released image. There's no way to win an argument with you, you're just ridiculous.
>Those are descendants of people who stole from the natives.
Those other natives stole it from someone else. That's why arabic is spoken in Egypt, for example.
>No, because Super Mario Kun was definitely not what Nintendo was thinking of.
It's not from that, but there's no reason to assert that isn't what they intended. Did Nintendo intend bizarre song paradise and caricatures of western films?
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>>492914778
>But the specific landscape changes in your headcanon aren't in the games.
Except we know they can happen. Unlike you looking at official fanfic for an unseen area of Sarasaland.
>Those other natives stole it from someone else.
That doesn't make the thieves good.
>there's no reason to assert that isn't what they intended.
There is because there's none of it in the games.
>Did Nintendo intend bizarre song paradise and caricatures of western films?
Actually, the overworld and superstar themes of Mario 1 were "inspired" by pre-existing songs.
>caricatures of western films?
That's basically what Mario Party 2 was.
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Legitinately what is even being argued about anymore?
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>>492916946
It's the dramafag talking in circles with himself again, lol. Ignore.
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>>492916232
>Except we know they can happen.
But it hasn't happened. We also know it's possible for most of Sarasaland to not be a desert, or not have a warm climate.
>There is because there's none of it in the games.
And nor is your headcanon

>>492917345
So are you retards just really new to 4chan? Why is it that arguments like this are so unfeasible to you that you always pretend it's fake, are you just massive normalfags from twitter?
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Yeah it's definitely him.
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>>492918461
It's odd how we're discussing Mario but we're bad for doing that and you're good for writing this off topic schizo garbage about it's all a fake argument for whatever reason.
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Literally talking in circles in an argument neither one of you is going to back down from is peak schizo. It's not even discussion anymore, it's "I want to be right but I can't ever let the other guy have the last word". It's a whole bunch of literal fucking nothing.
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>>492920017
>is peak schizo
You mean autism, reddit-kun. Use less buzzwords and lurk moar.
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An organic debate doesn't go on for almost 10 hours straight.
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>>492920270
Yes it does. You thinking this is unbelievable just shows how new you are to this website and how you shouldn't even be posting here. All you do is cause further arguments while pretending to be the voice of reason.
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Yeah, there's no way this isn't him.
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Notice how the "argument" stopped? lol
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>>492884428
Reminder that PiT was originally more darker and gruesome with it's story and environmental design. Hopefully a proto leaks so we get can see more of this stuff.
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Luigi's Mansion 2 is really good. Just finished Old Clockworks
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>>492922046
That creepy concept art the M&L guy posted on "Instagram" reveals the Shroobs were originally a later stage of the Toad life cycle from the future. That would have made them even darker.
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>>492927598
What does that mean for Peach then if she's not human?
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>>492928669
Entertaining the notion that she's a Toadette who harnessed a crown to become a princess, that "royal jelly" state most likely supersedes the brutish, dark purple stage as the end of her life cycle.
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>>492929357
I didn't mean that theory, just that she has to be some kind of Toad to be ruler. Would the same thing apply?
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>>492929706
She's not a Toad. Never has been.
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https://www.nintendo.com/jp/topics/article/a4000ce6-792e-49cb-8a9e-75497a691f4f
New M&L preview.
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>>492931251
Why did they abadon the sprites?
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>>492931529
please understand, small indie studio, 2d expensive, 3d cheap
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>>492931529
This is the next 3d Mario. M&L won.
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>>492931251
We harp on this a lot but Kevin's impressions really are just fucking dogshit. Worst "LUIGI!" I've ever heard.
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>>492931529
Art is dead. Keep up.
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>>492931529
the sprites were what bankrupt alpha dream in the first place, kek
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>>492931529
Why invest effort into a good style when you can outsource to indians for cheap assets?
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>>492934783
Is Ilca secretly Indian? Damn, that'd explain some things.
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>>492931251
M&L Brothership will be kino
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>>492941798
It will be better than the Xenoshit trilogy for sure
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Nobody was talking about Xeno
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>>492943454
Just ignore dramafag.
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>>492943505
Will do
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>>492943641
What game is he playing?
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NOOOOO I NEED MY DRAMA ITS WHAT GIVES ME POWER NOOOOOO
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>>492943765
Judging by the famicom controller and his tense expression, I'd take a longshot and say he is playing either SMB or Lost Levels, most likely the latter.
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>>492944625
I'd feel weird playing my own video game. Maybe he's playing Rockman 2
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>>492943765
>>492944625
>>492945579
I'd bet Contra or Duck Hunt.
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Jajajaja
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>>492947736
Imagine grabbing her by the neck and repeatedly punching her in the face
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Nah man. I don't want to do that
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Luigi's big hands on me...
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>>492946974
>Duck Hunt
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Look at the size of
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>>492948304
Luigi's green cum on me...
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>>492948369
I'd go hunting with Mario. I bet it would be chill
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>>492947736
Titties.
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>>492948485
His cum isn't green you idiot. That's just a greenie he captured
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>>492948554
He couldn't bring himself to shoot ducks. He seems like a good man to work with though.
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Super Mario Pro Skater
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>>492948673
For me it's the eyes
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>>492947736
I really like the bang brushing.
It also makes me wonder what color nail polish Peach and Daisy use.
Peach would probably be pink or maybe red.
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I can't figure out why people say faghani's Luigi is perfect
It sucks, it sounds like the Luigi in the Dorkly videos from 2012
Mario is the only one he sorta nails, if you ignore the constant clips with voice cracks Nintendo refused to re-take
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>>492948485
Sounds to me like you just want Gooigi, anon.
>>492956365
I'm willing to still give him a chance, but I don't know that I'll ever truly get used to it.
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>>492956365
You're wrong, Mario.
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>>492956365
All of his voices so far sound like impressions that 14-year-old Pedro is doing on Twitter that nobody has the heart to tell him suck Mario's ten pound mmmushroom and balls.
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>>492971883
Most people aren't autists like you.
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>>492972482
Is everyone here an autist?
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>>492972482
I'm just saying that you typically don't be mean to kids who are just having fun. It's not like Pedro's getting paid.
Kevin's not a kid who is just having fun. This man is being paid handsomely to do a terrible job of voicing the face of one of the biggest companies in gaming.
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>>492973393
I don't think he's being paid handsomely anon. This is Nintendo we're talking about. They've specifically said they put the money into game development.
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I do think Kevin and all those FE/DBZ VAs will eventually get replaced if we're going by the typical Nintendo console cycle.
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>>492978206
VO doesn't work the way you think it does.
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>>492973150
Yes, obviously, disregarding kevin's shit vo.
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Switch 2 reveal this month, surely?
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Normally I criticize Maro's Mario stuff for being kind of... ehh sometimes, but this one is pretty sweet. Guy does justice to Paulie at least.
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>>492985808
Ugly.
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Playing through Sunshine, why did they bother with Fludd when half of the shines take it away from you? The whole game feels like a weird detour from the rest of the Mario series, like Super Mario Land.
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>>492987553
>half of the shines take it away from you?
Isn't there like less than 10 Fludd-less shines?
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>>492949243
Now we're talking.
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>>492988127
I really do think it would be fun to add half pipes and grind rails to popular Super Mario locations for the characters to skate on
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>>492987881
This. I had a great time with Mario Sunshine. Having some time without fludd was offered a unique breather.
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Woah guys look, I found out Afghani voiced Mario and Luigi before being hired by Nintendo!
https://youtu.be/doOuSll-Yg0
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>>492985808
remove the chokers and weird tattoos they have and it's fine
nice boob squish too
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Did Mario and the gang introduce Rosalina to Italian food?
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>>492931251
Most important things from the preview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4yeN0OQFCs
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He works fast.
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>>492997575
Never underestimate an artist with passion.
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>>492989398
Robot Chicken sovl.
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>>492998218
It was pretty disappointing after the Robot Chicken E3 when Nintendo switched to the puppets.
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A friend of mine made some Paper Mario doodles, I felt like shilling these here because why not.
I told him to do a human Timpani next, hope he actually does it.
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>concord dies
>https://youtu.be/E5IlOERYagU?si=HoOtcDmf5S9pRJF5
>"Concordia"
>uploaded 1 hour ago
Devious
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>>493012819
The better Concord.
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>>493012792
Oh nice, love it.
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>>493001161
That whole robot chicken E3 stuff only happened because Nintendo was desperate to get people's attention due to the Wii U underperformance. They were willing to try anything, which unironically shows Nintendo at their peak. But with Nintendo being successful, they're at their worst.
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>>493022021
>Wii U
>at their peak
>saying this in a Mario general
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>>492922046
Where did that picture come from?
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>>493022216
>Mario Kart 8 and it's DLC
>Mario Maker
>Super Mario 3D World
>NSMBU
>New Super Luigi U
>Dr Luigi
>Mario & Sonic Rio and Sochi
>NES Remix
>Captain Toad
>Tropical Freeze
>Game & Wario
>All of those VC Mario titles for insanely cheap or even for free due to special events or Club Nintendo points
Mario fags had it good during the Wii U era.
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>>493023018
Mario Kart 8 Wii U was shit.
3D World was shit before the Switch port fixed it.
NSMBU was just another NSMB game with Luigi U being Nintendo's first big greeDLC.
Dr Luigi sucked
Mario and Sonic stopped being good after the first two
NES Remix was just an ad for the virtual console.
Tropical Freeze is a DK game, not a Mario game.
Game and Wario is the worst Warioware Game
Mariofags already had the VC Mario games.
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>>493026168
>wii u mk8 was shit
Absolutely fucking not. You did not play that version so you can shut your whore mouth.
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>>493027283
I did. Getting rid of being able to have two items, the roster that was mostly Koopalings and alternate versions of Mario and Peach, not having a real battle mode and honestly the stages while looking good being kind of boring for the most part makes it shit.
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>>493027283
Don't respond to /v/ tourist, anon. He's just looking for drama
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>>493023018
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>>493023018
It feels a bit cool seeing Geno in random ass fanart like this, even if a lot of zoomies and twittards shat on him for being an archetype no longer used in games or movies nowadays
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>>493031885
Again, it's your fault for overhyping him for 27 years.
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Calm down retard
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>>493034423
NTA but nobody overhyped him. Geno hype came around a time where Smash was purely just Nintendo IPs with some exceptions(Snake got in due to Kojima's request and Sonic was due to the whole 90s console war rivalry with Sega), which Geno was a fairly popular pick. You also have to remember this was the days before Fire Emblem exploded in popularity and Xenomid existing, so him being a Mario character and a nintendo JRPG character made him stand out more among the classic dream picks(Linebeck, Dixie, Meowth, James Bond, etc).
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>>493034423
Sounds more like zoomer smashfags like you were going to hate him no matter what.
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>>493037310
Okay zoomer.
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>>493037782
>no u
Typical zoomer.
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>am I fitting in yet, fellow zo- I mean boomer bros?
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Anons... stop replying to obvious bait
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>>493038238
I'm sorry, the zoomer falling back on her kind's typical ways made me feel like I needed to call her stupid.
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Did Camelot create Waluigi? I know Tennis was his first game but was he their idea?
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>>493036418
People finding what was believed to be Beware the Forest Mushrooms in the list of unused, blanked-out audio really helped build support around him.
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>>493038553
Camelot originally asked Nintendo to create Wario's doubles partner but then Nintendo said that Camelot should just do it, which is how Waluigi was born.
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>>493039043
Thanks for the history lesson, anon
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Does the Switch have a December game release?
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>>493023018
>Suddenly Tulip
Wait, wha-
>Javi made it
Ah okay, go figure kek.
Funny seeing her art getting reposted by someone other than me lol. That's nice. Cant wait for her to blow up in numbers, she is such an awfully underrated Mario fanartist with some crazy skills (shame her english is abysmally broken lmao.)
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>>493039314
Nintendo did supervise the creation of Waluigi though. Their contribution is that Camelot was originally planning for Waluigi's symbol to be WL, while the supervisor decided it should be the backwards L.
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>>493012792
my wives
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>>493041652
where she goin
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>>493041652
Finally, some art content I can get behind.
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if nintendo was making a full remake of one of the 3D mario games, which would you want it to be?
64, sunshine, or galaxy?
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>>493045705
I would rather they put resources into remaking games that need it, like the SML games.
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>>493037310
He just wasn't anywhere near as great as people built him up to be.
I played through SMRPG for the first time long after Smash hype had ended and Keyspaz McClownshoes was revealed as the last fighter, but before the remake was announced, and while I did really enjoy the game itself, Geno himself was...really underwhelming.
"Cool for the sake of cool" at a surface level only really works when the character is, well, actually cool, and he's just not cool enough to pull it off. He's just a stumpy guy with a big nose who drops some exposition and has a few cool moves. By the time he gets all choked up at the end before Smithy, you haven't really gotten attached enough that it's any kind of gut punch when he leaves...though maybe that's just because I didn't experience it as a kid.
Either way, what it really boils down to is that even though the soft-serve twitter zoomers who latched onto Mallow instead weren't exactly right either, they did hit the nail on the head in one way: Geno's just kind of boring after all the years of buildup if you don't have any preexisting attachment to him.
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>>492944625
This guy stopped uploading art, which sucks, he was really good
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>>493036418
Holy shit I've been trying to find that specific roster for years. I had printed it out and taped to my school notebook in 2006. Idk why I just thought it was cool.
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>>493046880
NTA but I'll never understand the double standard when it comes to Geno.
Mario characters are already pretty surface level, but Geno, literally only Geno has to have his bar raised to extreme levels in character and if he doesn't he gets clowned on.
I don't even think Rosalina had much character besides storybook wank (in the actual game she doesn't do much until the last 2 minutes of the game besides Grand Star hoarding) but she's a le waifu, and gets saved from roasts. (and this goes with most female characters, even male weirdly)
If past presence is the only thing that matters, he was sent from the gods to save the world + star road, and guides Mario to save the world. What more do you need, On top of that he's the most powerful character with clean animations. Even outside of the "stoic cool" discourse, he's just a fun character.
Mallow cries twice and has a "le identity crisis" that gets solved pretty quickly early on and he's treated as the best character ever. I don't get it.
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>>493051536
They said they were prioritizing work to make sure they could do more later
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>>493052742
It isn't a double standard if it's his own fans who inadvertently raised the bar to begin with.
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>>493052742
>Mario characters are already pretty surface level, but Geno, literally only Geno has to have his bar raised to extreme levels in character and if he doesn't reach those expectations he gets clowned on.
Made this part of the point more clear.
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>>493052742
>>493053153
See >>493053145
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>>493051964
The only reasons that roster isn't accurate to reality is because they don't have enough funding or dev time and Sakurai is a preening faggot.
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>>493055779
Miyamoto himself has said he's not a legitimate doctor.
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>>493058862
Shouldn't he be wearing black then?
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>>493055779
>Do you consider Dr. Mario a quack or legitimate doctor?
He can heal much more things on a stronger and accurate level than actual doctors.
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>>493052742
>Mallow
>treated as the best character ever
He was flat ignored by 90% of smrpg "fans" for decades.
It's only with the remake that people realized he had a character, simple as it was.
Meanwhile Geno has been treated as the epitome of cool when he was just a spirit in a puppet.
Neither character is deep, but only one has had this giant false standard of what the character is for almost 30 years.
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>>493059312
>>493055779
>face feels hot
>throat getting scratchy
I think I'm getting sick desu. May have to play Sunshine again. One of my favorite comfort games. Anyone else have a Mario game that they would consider a "comfort game"?

Also I just finished Secret Mine in Luigi's Mansion 2. Haunted House in the snow is probably my favorite theme so far. Too bad it has the fewest missions
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>>493060518
>Anyone else have a Mario game that they would consider a "comfort game"?
For me, it's PM64.
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>>493059312
I know what you did there.
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>>493059312
>>493061582
>>493059335
Now that I think about it, maybe that's what Miyamoto was referencing considering he said he was a Tezuka fan.
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So do I need a Gamecube Controller to play Sunshine? Because this shit feels like trash on a modern controller.
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>>493062024
Rule number 1 of playing any Mario game past the Super Nintendo:

Play in on the fucking controller that it was intended for. Miyamoto really loves generational console gimmicks, and he assures every mainline Mario game is optimized to that gimmick. That includes the controller. It also doesn't help that Nintendo fucking swapped jump from B to A sometime after the SNES
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>>493063081
Jump was always on A before World messed that up.
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>>493063081
People who grew up on the SNES treat B as Jump. DESU, it's more comfortable as the jump button, for sure. The most commonly used action, should always be mapped to the most comfortable to press button, but Japan is retarded.
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>>493063081
>Miyamoto really loves generational console gimmicks, and he assures every mainline Mario game is optimized to that gimmick. That includes the controller.
This is like his #1 failing as a game dev
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>>493062024
Playing Eclipse? Yes.
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>>493064342
>Mario 64 made Analog control the gold standard for video games to this day
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1UP
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Why are people talking about Sunshine again? Did I miss something?
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>>493074646
Super Mario Eclipse came out.
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>>493074646
I'm always down to talk about Sunshine. Not sure why everyone else is talking about it
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I probably think about Peach's eyeball earrings at least once a week
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>>493075105
>>493074646
https://youtu.be/dwLPgvgL5Vk?si=5bZ9RwxsOT9wTjse
https://gamebanana.com/mods/536309
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>>493075292
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>>493052793
Really? That’s good to hear, I really love their art and was kinda bummed out that it seemed like they had stopped. Hopefully they’ll return soon!!
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resident spic here who's also a genofag
i just wanted to mention we always seem to run around on circles about him. and i'm sure it's the same guy as before, since the arguments were exactly the same.
all i will say is, as someone who did grow up on smrpg and paper mario, you can really tell how geno had no real dialogue besides the exposition due to the own limitations square set for themselves; make a simple ass rpg for retarded americans to buy and enjoy.
the only real character is mallow, and his arc amounts to "find my real parents and stop crying so much'... so there really was no way to make geno a deep character.
what little we have, is a stoic soldier sent on a mission who slowly changes during the game, shown by the pre smithy dialogue and his expression.
that and how the whole party reacts to his sudden departure.
it's pretty much a "show don't tell" kind of thing, and i'm pretty sure if star road was a place you could visit like nimbus land geno would've gotten more dialogue.
at the end of the day, the blank slate he had allowed for a lot of headcanons and shitty fanart showing geno as some cold hearted edgy killer, which isn't the case at all. he's cool looking among many mario characters,there's really no character that has had a similar design to him since then.
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>>493080516
excuse the shitty grammar it was a long day at work
anyways, growing up on smrpg, the ending did leave a really large impact on me. sure he didn't say a lot but he still was part of the party, he still helped out mario and co. save their home, and the ending really nails hard the fact geno is leaving and the party is sad about it.
the remake reinforced that idea to me, even more the scene with mallow carrying the geno doll to see the fireworks with the party, alongside his star form.
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>>492931251
Based
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>>493080516
There's just something to be said for him being cool in that chuuni way. I mean, when Geno debuted Nintendo didn't really even have a character like Geno. He didn't have much going on, but he was the first.
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>>493096053
Aside from Meta Knight, I guess.
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>>493061175
PM64, I suppose.
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Mario is Italian, and Italian is brown
This is a brown franchise simple as
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>>493100385
Goombas are brown but Mario kills millions of them. This is a brown killing franchise.
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>>493102517
They don't die.
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Why does fans of other Nintendo IPs want to turn Mario Kart (and now even Mario Party) into smash with the roster? Why do they want to colonize our franchise?
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>>493075348
I haven't played it much yet, but being able to walk from Bianco Hills to Ricco Harbor and Gelato Beach is pretty fucking cool I gotta say.
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>>493075042
It's pretty much the definitive version of Sunshine. There's no reason to play the base game now.
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>>493106273
That good? I've not seen any of the new content outside of the Fire Shine yet, how's the new stuff?
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>>493106469
It has all of Sunshine's base game, so even if you just want a better version of the original, you have the option. Only thing I'd say is that some of the new level positions could potentially be annoying. For example, if you fall off Pianta Village, you enter a new level instead of just dying so it'd take longer to get back to where you were.
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>>493107324
I died plenty in Pianta Village without getting to a new level.
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>>493107498
I'm just going off what I saw in a stream. Maybe you have to unlock it first?
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>>493107621
I've beaten all of the the base courses up to their Shadow Mario Missions. To get to the new levels you either find their paths from new terrain or take the new train. I learned you have to beat the Shadow Mario missions to unlock the flood that gets you to Bowser in Corona Mountain since they added in a base shrine for it
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>>493107945
I don't know what to say, I saw it happen and they hadn't finished Pianta Village yet.
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>>493108665
It might depend on where you fall, but I did see Warp Pipes on the clouds for the 8th Shine Sprite
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>>493113659
Why do I get the feeling that whoever made this was feeling spiteful?
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>>493120163
That's the only reason images like that are ever even made, anon.
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>>493120278
I suppose, but I more so meant in relation to the specific roster of primitive 3D characters on the bottom.
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>>493104505
Nintendo did it first with Kart. I don't know where this Party autism is or is coming from, though.
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>>493134441
A few guest characters as DLC is not the same as turning it into a crossover.
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>>493075042
>>493075348
I liked Eclipse but my main issue is some stuff from Sunburn was taken out, mostly Yoshi Long Jump, 64 styled worlds (Shines aren't locked to singular episodes) and No booting out with only certain shines having it
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>>493136124
Going out of your way to add characters from completely different franchises instead of daring to expand the roster with Mario characters or even Mario-adjacent ones is in fact turning it into a crossover.
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Eclipse is pozzed so I won't play it on principle.
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>>493137829
Updates might add all of those back
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>>493138096
I don't care if it's pozzed. I'm just disappointed that Sunburn and Eclipse are trying to go for a more SM64 style format than the original planned version of the game(Focusing on helping civilians and traveling on a train)
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>>493138096
What is there a transgender pianta or something
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>>493138096
Huh?
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>>493138887
Fludd sucks Mario's cock and it's an objective during one of the shines.
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>>493140087
I can't believe they added the Super Crown.
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>>493138096
>>493138805
How is it pozzed
Wanna know before I download it
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>>493140396
>>493140087
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>>493140396
Hidden alphabet flag
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Luigi...
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>>493146182
Weegee
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Lugia
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Gay Luigi
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How'd they get Bowser to star in the Minecraft movie anyway?
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>>493148808
Same reason Bowser was in Borderlands.
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>>493120278
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do people not know of the mario arcade games? they have had guest characters since the 2000s
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>>493140087
I really want to see that. More importantly, hear that...
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>>493149527
Judging by most Mario Kart all tracks ranked lists the answer would be no.
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>>493149527
A lot of people don't, and the majority of those that do only seem to know about just Pac-man.
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>>493149527
Anon, those pretty much only released in japan
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>>493143510
Fuck's sake. Why do they always have to do this these days? Can't anyone keep politicslop out of what they make anymore?
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Bing bing wahoo
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>>493156762
Pretty sure they do it specifically to piss people off.
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>>493156889
Well that's rude
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>>493156889
At this point, I'd believe it.
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>>493157028
Just like your typical 4chan shitposter, they know it works.
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>>493156762
Because that's the only thing they can do. They'd make their own games, but just look at Concord for how that works out.
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>>493138096
>>493143510
>Le pozzed
This has been debunked a while ago, idiots. There's no trans flag.
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>>493159052
Nice edit
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>>493159052
B-but my reactionary outrage... I want to be outraged by flags hidden in a little corner..
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>>493159052

>>493158221
>>493156762

>>493159124
Shitposter faggot, the trans flag is the edited one.
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>>493159243
Prove it
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>>493159243
How can we be sure you're not bullshitting us?
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>>493159463
Mamma Mia...
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this is what they're talking about by the way
but is it real or is it fake? you be the judge.
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>>493160110
Looks like it could go either way. If it's an edit, it's a convincing one.
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In the end, does it even matter if it's real or not? It's not like the people who made the romhack are getting money out of it.
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>>493160110
>>493159052
This can be answered pretty easily.
Both of these pictures have completely different colors for their UI elements. The one with the flag has green streaks behind coin/shine/life counters, and a blue circle behind the water bar, while the one without the flag has purple streaks and a purple circle.
Someone just has to start posting other screenshots from the game with the UI visible and we'll have our answer.
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>>493159415
>>493159515
>>493160110
Super Mario eclipse's UI color is purple in mods when modded, the LGBT edited one is the regular Sunshine green color, so it's either edited or made in an entire different rom all together by some /pol/faggot wanting shitpost fuel against game modding.
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>>493160398
It's shoving an annoying reminder of the real world into a game where you play as the bing bing man with a pressure washer strapped to his back.
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>>493160480
>screenshots
I'll do you one better. Here's a video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwLPgvgL5Vk
There's no flag. It's all bait.
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>suddenly tranny discussion
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>>493160573
>>493160691
>Sunshine haters BTFO once again
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>>493160691
I suppose the fact that we live in a world where it was a plausible thought is unfortunate enough.
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>>493160110
The fact that this flag even exists is enough to make me laugh.
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who fucking cares my god, imagine being outraged at the thought of a flag appearing in a mod
can the daisyschizo come back or something.
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>>493161587
It's strange to talk about yourself like this, daisyschizo.
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Is Odyssey better to play with joy cons or pro controller?
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>>493161970
I've only ever owned joycons so I can't say
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>>493161970
Doesn't matter, you can perform motion actions with either just fine.
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>>493161587
I will personally track you down and stab you.
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>>493162098
ok Daisy
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>>493159463
>Gyaru Rosa
Nice piece for all it's worth, but I really dont think it suits her all that well, if anything Peach would be better suited for the gyaru style. Found another one too.
Also, I've been seeing a lot of gyarus this two months, seeing one here of all places is funny, as if it's some kind of message...
>check Sono Bisque Doll on Mangadex
>hasnt updated yet
Okay, it's not that kind of message, so Im led to assume I'll have to draw a gyaru eventually. That aint happening right now.
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>>493138805
>I'm just disappointed that Sunburn and Eclipse are trying to go for a more SM64 style format
Sounds good. It's what Mario should have always stayed with.
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>>493161587
>can the daisyschizo come back or something.
I'm always here, but dramafag fulfilled the retarded Daisy discussion quota not too long ago and things should still cool down for another bit. Plus, they haven't given me much of anything to sink my teeth into as of late.
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>>493162086
Oh didn't know it had many motion controls, I never played it before. Guess I'll try it with joy cons then, sounds more comfortable than moving the pro controller
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>>493163053
I can vouch for the joycons, some of the motion control movements are more comfortable (and easier to execute) with the joycons.
However all those movements are also optional so it's not really a must.
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>>493156740
>only released in japan
All of the Mario Kart arcade games came out in the west. I spent a lot of time on Mario Kart Arcade 2. Though they're total money guzzlers., and the most recent one kind of sucks.
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>>493163021
Go away.
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>>493160602
>shoving
Even if it was real, it's only a 7 cm vase lgbt flag far off screen. It's not like the Srb2 OLDC event mod doing this right on the title screen when you boot it up. That sonic fangame is pozzed incarnate.
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>>493163276
Seethe.
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>>493162324
It's either Peach or Daisy.
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>>493163214
I heard the movement was really good in this game so I don't want to restrict myself
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>>493161096
>Genderbend Peach
>But blonde Mario instead of a twink
Based
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>>493163346
>Even if it was real, it's only a 7 cm vase lgbt flag far off screen.
Slippery slope.
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>>493163346
This >>493164892 desu
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>>493076839
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>>493162375
>Sounds good. It's what Mario should have always stayed with.
You're the reason why 3D Mario will eventually go through it's "BotW" phase, as people will get tired of the SM64 nostalgia and gameplay format.
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>>493163268
>in the west
Then it was heavily limited in availability, cause I've never known anyone who's actually played them.
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>>493163053
I played the entire game with joycons in the shell. It was fine doing motion controls with that setup, so I assume it's also fine with a pro controller, but I obviously can't say for sure.
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>>493166012
>people will get tired of the SM64 nostalgia and gameplay format.
They haven't done it since Sunshine. Even Odyssey is pretty different experience to 64, and Odyssey is the BotW phase of Mario. People got sick of the linear levels of Galaxy, Galaxy 2, 3D Land, and 3D World and wanted something more.
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>>493164892
The only slippery slope you'll see is Mario's carbonara sliding right into you.
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>>493166023
I saw them a fair amount as someone who didn't go to arcades a lot. Maybe they're just more common in the UK. You can play Mario Kart Arcade 2 on emulators now if you want to try it out.
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>>493167035
Is it rainbow colored?
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>>493166917
>Even Odyssey is pretty different experience to 64
Have you played Odyssey? Mario moveset is nearly identical to his 64 moveset(There's even unused animations that shows he was going to punch like he did in 64) and the entire Mushroom Kingdom is just 64 nostalgia.
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>>493172743
IS THAT A NIPPLE
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>>493173121
I've 100% completed Odyssey. Mario's moveset is only one part of 64. I'd question if you've played 64. Odyssey's levels were big open areas with too many meaningless moons, and main "missions" that felt like a step back from every 3D Mario game made before as they were glorified checkpoints. Bowser's Fury's levels are closer to 64's design philosophy, but suffer from being too small which made them a little too linear with an enforced mission order like Sunshine.
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Speaking of Geno...
https://youtu.be/Ay90gHcu5Ks
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>>493180202
Genis doesn't need to be in a widely-panned platform fighter with a garbage reputation. He was brought back in a remake and left the public consciousness after a month the natural way. The camep-and-went reception is all a Mario character can get in the modern day, when no one is naive enough to believe they might return in future games anymore. He won, and he won a brief little comeback with a ride home. It was the best he could get.
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>>493182073
Minor spelling mistake, Geno lost
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>>493180202
>>493182073
>>493182306
>Geno lost
Lost what? He won. Smash bros hype is long dead, biggest remembrance in recent times is that it's a big groomer game. All tourneys are constantly getting buttfucked by Steve on top of that (So, Ultimate isn't even the best smash game casually OR competitively). A full fledged remake is a way better sendoff then platform fighter shit.
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>>493184886
Just realized this anon >>493182306 was taunting this other anon >>493182073
Not just correcting himself.
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>>493184886
all getting into smash would do is raise the disingenuous geno "expectations" even higher, which would cause even more twitter clout faggotry shit, his fans dodged a bullet
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>>493186741
>disingenuous
Get over yourself.
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>>493184886
>All tourneys are constantly getting buttfucked by Steve on top of that
I still find it insane that it was literally Steve that caused the competitive community to sperg out.
It wasn't Joker due to playing like a floaty character but hitting like a heavyweight fighter, it wasn't Hero with his constant unfair RNG bullshit which made fights unpredictable, it wasn't Byleth with their insane combo material while hitting hard like a truck, it wasn't Min-Min who's infamous in the japanese smash community for being a incredibly unfair zooner, it wasn't Kazuya who has insane armor protection and heavily benefits from competitive legal stages like FD, it wasn't Sora who has the best mobility in the game so he can easily camp forever, and it wasn't even fucking PYRA AND MYTHRA, who's essentially Smash 4 Bayonetta with Melee/Brawl Zelda gimmick.
But fucking Steve.
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>>493187529
Hail to the king, baby.
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>>493187529
DLC ruined Smash. I just want to RETVRN to "Something's gone wrong with the happy-go-lucky world of Nintendo."
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>>493187904
Did Kyle Gass turn into Herobrine after Jack publicly disowned him for joking about an unpopular public figure who didn't get shot?
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>>493187942
Me and you, and you and me, no matter how they tossed the dice, it had to be...
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>>493186850
you proved my point faggot, right back at ya
>>493053145
>>493057236
all geno fans did in the ssb days was make content for smash rosterfaggotry with their character in their little holes, just like any other characterfag did. And people made their own expectations of the character because they were like "how could this guy have decent fan support". peak disingenuous
Since people are bringing up Steve all day, he was even more spammed than Geno, and he has literally no character even WHEN he's the main character. I guess high sales removes you from this expectation equation.
The biggest thing they would say is that he's "cool". Isn't that what any other characterfag said for their roster factions? How did the expectations get this high for only fucking GENO.
Cool is fucking subjective. Smash bros just creates disingenuous worth on characters that people just want to play and have a good time with. A Scrimblo mc bimblo shouldn't have pitch forks against him because he captured a good moment in a fan's life.
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>it's everyone's fault but Genofags, I swear!
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>disingenuous babble and not even reading the post
still proving my point
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>>493189328
>disingenuous disingenuous disingenuous
https://youtu.be/G2y8Sx4B2Sk
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>>493189560
>https://youtu.be/G2y8Sx4B2Sk
>This ancient forum weapon
Always gets used wrong, it's funny how this applies to the poster itself.
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Everyone shut the fuck up and post Mario-themed reaction images.
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>>493189726
Also
Acting like there's one single way something can be "cool" to someone is disingenuous. Plain and simple.
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>>493190089
I'm in that pipe eating that peach
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>>493190124
But Geno really isn't that cool. He's outclassed by cooler characters in SMRPG alone.
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>>493190089
That sounds cringe. Everyone should post a Mario related youtube video.
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>>493187942
I just want kit overhauls.
Sone characters are ok, but a lot of them had assed out kits from the get go.
Echos also need to be actual fighters.
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>>493190492
>spoiler
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>>493190089
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>>493190607
>Dark Pit should have the same kit as Pit when half the weapons in Uprising aren't even utilized
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>>493190492
If it ain't broke then don't fix it. As for echoes, the only echo fighter that would be cool with a new moveset is Dark Samus.
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>>493191161
>the only echo fighter that would be cool with a new moveset is Dark Samus
This tbdesu
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>>493190348
>But Geno really isn't that cool. He's outclassed by cooler characters in SMRPG alone.
Simply being playable and being able to utilize the right button presses for 9999 damage can way more cool to someone.
His character design and animations alone can be way more cool to someone.
Being sent from the gods itself can be way more cool to someone.
Being a good guide to Mario to save star road and the world can be way more cool to someone.
A single aspect doesn't define cool. It's subjective.
Being a boss who haults Mario's journey (which you described) is what you find to be the coolest thing yourself, but others can also find other things to be the coolest thing.
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>Luigi's Mansion 2
>got stuck on the 2nd Treacherous Mansion mission because I forgot about the logs in the Jungle Exhibit room
I feel stupid. I did not get a good rank for that one
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>>493191319
You can't keep pulling subjectivity out of your ass and expecting it to be some kind of trump card for why half-naked Pinocchio there is supposedly so cool.
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>>493191671
>You can't keep pulling subjectivity out of your ass and expecting it to be some kind of trump card for why half-naked Pinocchio there is supposedly so cool.
And this is what I'm taking about on this stigma against the character. You can't see anyone finding him cool, and if they "somehow" do people think they're somehow delusional.
>half-naked Pinocchio
Some of the beloved characters in this franchise are worms, and beans you shitter.
You even ignore my presence points. Being a mystical being alone can be the coolest thing ever to people.
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>>493188125
Mario?
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>>493192487
Jack Black is in Mario.
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>>493192158
How many times do you have to be told that you brought the stigma upon yourselves before you're willing to accept it?
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>>493191161
>the only
No.
Also, it's Samus who should get a new kit while Dark Samus inherits the old one.
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>>493192974
>No.
Yes.
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>>493190348
True.
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>>493192960
You can't admit it either.
See how you won't even argue on any points. That's the Geno stigma from others.
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>>493193121
Glad we agree that they all need updating.
Now you should go to the thread about smash for further dicussion.
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>>493193648
They do not all need updating.
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>>493192974
>No.
It'd be the only character worth spending the resources to upgrade because Dark Samus could pull off some real cool stuff. The others are fine as they are, or are fine being removed if them not being unique is too much for their fans.
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>>493192158
>Some of the beloved characters in this franchise are worms
Cope. He's mainline something Geno will never be.
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>>493193867
No one was talking to you mainlinefag head lice
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Soon.
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>>493193198
try the waluigi stigma out for a spin, since he's always in spinoffs and acquired a steady following, there's people who absolutely hate the idea of him being in wario's games, mainline, or having his own game other than dance dance revolution mario mix because "he's just a meme"
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>>493193198
You don't know how good you have it. See >>493195271
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Someone breakdown this autism for me. Someone ITT doesn't like Geno or something?
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>>493187942
did you not notice smash wii u was the last time they used the tagline "nintendo all stars"?
hell japan stopped using it since melee
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>>493195592
Geno still has it worse, not making it a competiton. Waluigi still is a sure thing for many future games, while Geno is stuck with crumbs, fandom stigmas or not.
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>>493195805
Everything has to be an argument is all.
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>>493196351
That's silly. Post something about Mario that makes you happy. For me it's Lemmy
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>>493196859
Koopalings get the rope
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>>493197027
kek
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>>493196979
Koopalings would have saved Wonder's repeated bosses problem and you know it.
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>>493188989
steve has the benefit of zoomerfags and millenialfags playing mineycrafta and using their own skins
so they wanted minecraft in smash, not steve
but yeah you're right with the >I guess high sales removes you from this expectation equation thing you said, people nowadays like to shit on whatever is not ultra popular, and form their own opinions on whatever e celeb is shitting on said thing, like that faggot coney or the tranny dicksucker goobus mcdoogus or whatever
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>>493195805
There is one anon who shits on Geno and can't fathom the idea someone would find him cool
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>>493197502
All I said initially was he was a bit overhyped and it made people piss and shit and cry.
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I think I'm going to go to save Luigi's Mansion 3 for October. Is it more like LM1 or LM2?
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>>493197610
You didn't. You said he was overhyped and "couldn't understand how people like him", and when myself and others argued back you resorted to just shitflinging and personal attacks, like the one time you threw shit at Guatemalanon.
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>>493197610
If you're the one who posted the doodle that made Geno absurdly offmodel for an exaggerated point, then yes, that would rustle jimmies.
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Are the new post game bosses and play log medals in SMRPG remake worth it? I’ve done two of them so far and they just seem like damage sponges and puzzle fights
Do the minigame gold medals give you anything?
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>>493198531
It's just bragging rights like the 100 jumps
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>>493197226
at least post some better Mario wonder Koopalings designs.
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>>493197892
pls respond
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>>493199581
Luigi's Mansion 3 is way more closer to 2's more cartoonish vibes than 1's spooky atmospheric vibes.
All of their gameplay is good though.
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>>493200000
>checked
Also I'm mostly talking about the gameplay. I like that LM1 feels more like one big adventure rather than separate levels like LM2
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>>493200000
nice quints, luigibro.
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>>493200201
>>493200362
Oh wow. Got sweet digits
>Also I'm mostly talking about the gameplay. I like that LM1 feels more like one big adventure rather than separate levels like LM2
Yeah then you want LM3, The only real level separation is the hotel elevator, not as loose as LM1, but not literally cut into level missions like LM2.
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>>493200759
Sounds based. Thank you
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who tf is guatemalanon
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>>493201401
Big Geno fan who made a name for himself by being unable to post images due to living in, well, Guatemala. One can often spot him remarking about his "shithole country" and posting Catbox links to the images he wants to share as a result, usually being figurines he's purchased and other Mario oddities he's found.
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>>493201401
the mario merch poster that's range banned from posting pictures so he catbox's the photos.
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>>493202341
No eyeball earrings?
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>>493201660
>One can often spot him remarking about his "shithole country"
I know you mentioned more than just that point, but Im still posting this lmao.
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How competent and good natured of a man is Mario?
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>>493203324
Mario and Luigi are both good men
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That bootleg plushie company finally got to making a Geno apparently.
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>>493198205
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>>493203968
He looks both perturbed and like he got stung be a bee...so nothing has changed
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>>493191319
Everything in SMRPG is very cool. The entire game kept me up for long hours every time I started a session. Geno was in the party most of the time for me.
>>493203968
Looks nice.
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Finally, there's nothing left to do
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>>493204035
This image is almost always paired with shit takes
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>>493204219
Did you get all of the outfits and finish Luigi's requirements in Balloon World?
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>>493204219
You ___'_ beat the game!
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>>493203324
Mario always has the courage to jump into a dangerous situation to save another, and is always tolerant of the people who are trying their best in their own way.
Luigi is always tries to follow Mario's philosophy and nature by example (besides when his fearfulness gets the better of him)
Both great heroes, always striving and surviving.
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>>493203968
GENOBROS WE MADE IT
THEY MADE BOOTLEG MERCH OF GENO
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>>493199348
Screw it, I'll just post the rest of the Mario art from ozzybog in an collage edit since there were a lot of Wonder Koopalings pictures to potentially thread flood.
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>they don't know about Luigi's dark side
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>>493205862
Luigi doesn't have a dark side, silly
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>>493206239
Mr. L isn't a brainwashed persona, anon.
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>Inside you there are two Luigi's
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>>493199348
>>493205763
i didn't know iggy was chill like that....
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>>493204624
>Did you get all of the outfits
There's only a few cheap outfits left, like the rabbits outfits(For some reason the girl rabbit outfit is more expensive than everyone else)
>Luigi requirements
Huh?
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>>493206396
WHAT THE FUCK?!
HOW DO I GET THEM OUT?!
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>>493205862
>>493206396
Then how do you explain Dream's Deep?
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>>493201401
me
speaking of, check it out, i got shiddy today
https://files.catbox.moe/05wnam.jpg
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>>493206707
Poltergust succ
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>>493206704
Get to grinding anon, and I meant Balloon World Stats.
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>>493195271
>there's people who absolutely hate the idea of him being in wario's games, mainline, or having his own game other than dance dance revolution mario mix because "he's just a meme"
Like Nintendo.
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>Lisa reddit meme
I don't care what it says. I disagree
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>>493207624
Hi dramafag
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>>493207627
Galaxy has been out for nearly 20 years.
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>>493207808
Are you implying Nintendo isn't Waluigi's #1 obstacle to appearing in other games?
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>>493208507
I'm implying that you replied to a post from hours ago trying to start some shit
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>>493203430
>>493205157
But what are the negative traits of the two? Which of the seven deadly sins would be their greatest flaw?
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>>493208734
I was just making an observation.
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>>493209119
Okay
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Do you think people will get nostalgic for NSMB at some point and ask for a new one?
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>>493209676
Not really. Any 2D Mario ticks all the same boxes.
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>>493209676
Something something zoomer something something.
With that out of the way, I'd say New Soup (at least the DS one) is already in range of being a nostalgic game, not only because of its time, but because of its charm as a DS title and the overall experience it offers. Thad said, I doubt the general public is eager to see another New Soup considering the formula was exhausted to death by the time of U Eat Soup DX and also Wonder being a well received and much needed change in the 2D Mario formula.
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>>493209676
Given enough time, people will become nostalgic for anything.
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They should just do a collection with DS, wii, and 2 at some point and leave it at that
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>>493210989
2 is the worst one.
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>>493211605
Yes but if they don't add it they will have people asking where it's at
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>>493207178
thanks anon
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Feels like the thread has been more lively lately
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>>493211721
Didn't stop them from refusing to add Galaxy 2 to 3D All $tars.
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>>493212006
You know what? Fair enough
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>>493212006
I don't know why they didn't just admit the game literally doesn't work without a Wii controller. It's a better look than lying about not having time.
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>>493212376
Is there something I'm forgetting about Galaxy 2 that makes it not work without a Wii controller but Galaxy 1 does?
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Please don't tell me all the blue coins in Eclipse are required to get all the Shines. I don't want to go through that hell again.
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>>493203968
where did you find that geno plush anon
his nose is way too big but still cool
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>But what are the negative traits of the two? Which of the seven deadly sins would be their greatest flaw?
Mario being too accepting to anyone new he meets, be it a good or evil person & jumping into any challenge head first without much preparation. I guess too much self confidence? (Pride and/or Hubris)
Luigi's potentially bottomless fear of what could or couldn't happen (Despair and/or Despondency), this spikes up when he doesn't know the status of his brother Mario. As long as Luigi knows Mario's alright he can also be far away from Mario while doing his own adventures, still can be fearful, but not nearly as much.
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>he doesn't know
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Do you think Frappe Snowland or DK Pass will show up in the next Mario Kart? I always liked both back on the DS
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>>493195271
Waluigi doesn't have as much stigma as Geno.
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>>493194724
I would pretend to care about you if you were a hot boy
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>>493237657
Are you sure we both live on the same planet?
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>>493237914
Waluigi is the beloved wacky meme man who just had fans go over the line once. When the new Smash is announced, he'll be one of the character with the biggest amount of people wanting him in if they don't immediately show him as an assist trophy. Let's be honest here, there's not many relevant Nintendo characters left that don't fall into complete joke character tier so it wouldn't be surprising to see him in.
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>>493238719
You forgot to mention that every Smash title includes a new Mario rep, which at this point there's barely anyone left from the mainline series. Waluigi is outright inevitable, unless Sakurai decides to make Pauline a playable character for "laughs".
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Finished the Rainbow Stars demo, what did you guys think of it? The storytelling could use some work, I feel. If it's trying to ape Paper Mario, then that was a very weak "Chapter 1". Weak villain and no real reason to care about the Yoshis.
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>>493239282
She'd be a mix of Rosalina and Jigglypuff's Down Special.
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>>493196859
Cute!
>>493199348
>>493205763
These are the first designs that look decent to me. Drawing has a good quality (Ludwig looks so dumb though)
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>>493207627
>Word words words
Only characterfags who are jealous of Rosalina would post this image unironically.
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>>493253064
I think we both know which characterfag.
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We know it's you, you can give it up, anon.
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>>493254314
Shut up.
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>>493254314
Kill yourself.
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>>493239282
Er, Toad? I think Toad is way more relevant than Waluigi
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>>493255215
Toad feels like he's never going to make it. Even Captain Toad feels pretty unsuitable for Smash.
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>>493257716
They can make it work if they want since Toad has been in basically every Mario game leaving a lot to draw from for a moveset, Captain Toad can just be a costume if the whole “can’t jump” thing gets in the way of making the moveset
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>>493260149
>since Toad has been in basically every Mario game leaving a lot to draw from for a moveset
At that point why not just redo Mario or Luigi?
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>>493260758
its my wet dream for mario to be re-worked
change his smash attacks to be hammer swings except the down smash, but make it look more like the break dance from 64 instead of a generic one like in ultimate, keep the aerials and tilts as is, make the cape able to be spammed like in mario world, basically allow you to spin in the ground repeteadly, keep it the same as it currently is in the air.
down b in the air is now the galaxy spin, in the ground its fludd, and it looks like the actual fludd now instead of the weird animation mario has. make the dash attack the dive.
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1-up
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>change his smash attacks to be hammer swings
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>>493280125
Please
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>>493280125
>>493280716
You're getting too predictable dramafag. You're also bumping the thread everytime with this too.
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>>493282127
There's ways to avoid bumping.
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>>493282476
And you fail every time.
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Can't handle a simple hammer, mainlinefag? He's been using them (even swinging them) since conception, not just rpgs. Mario even has it as a main powerup.
>b-but not it's not the exact same motion
Autism tier semantics.
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>>493283050
>>493279964
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>>493282127
I was just completing the quote for him. He forgot the "please". That's the funniest part
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>>493283343
the zoombafag is a proven secondary
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>>493283050
We're talking about the kind of people who think echoes being changed to real fighters is a bad thing.
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>>493284025
Those anons are on a mario re-work discussion not echoes.
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>>493284707
Some people hate the idea of ANY change.
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>>493287658
Why do Wario and Waluigi have pointed ears?
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>>493284025
Honestly, yeah. I'd rather Smash gets more characters than wasting time on the echoes becoming more unique. The only way I'd want echoes to become unique is if the original fighter they were based on gets a big revamp.
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Sky High Sundae may be bad but the SNES Vanilla Lakes are even worse, they might as well be unplayable
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>>493284025
Stop trying to make the conversation about yourself.
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>>493288108
They're the Mushroom kingdom equivalent of elves.
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>>493288108
Because they're mean :(
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>>493293112
See Mario & Dr. Mario and Link & the kid Links
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https://files.catbox.moe/qpkyes.mp4
/kdg/ hacker anon is having fun with Mario Kart and Dream Buffet.
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>>493297737
At the very least, he *was*, before the thread died.
We need more to talk about over there...
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>>493293112
They aren’t going to drastically overhaul any character movesets in Smash because that would basically be shitting on people who main that character, the closest they’ve ever done to an overhaul was Ultimate Link and that was more aesthetic than anything; plus Young Link being in the game let Link’s original moveset still be usable
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>>493293112
>>493298000
>>>/vg/ssbg
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>>493209676
what is the huge difference between a new super mario bros from a super mario bros lol they are the same bullshit
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>>493302157
>brown Dais--
>PAULINE.
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>>493302157
This gets posted here every month get new material.
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>>493302303 (Me)
I didn't look any more to the right after Pauline before making this post but let me add
>ROSALINA.
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>>493302157
>>493302303
Neither are as bad as Mona redesign
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>>493302157
Wario and some of the non-human designs are nice, but... yeesh. It's about as on the nose "do I fit into the Twitter circle yet?" as it gets.
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>>493302157
I want to murder every artist whos idea of a redesign includes changing characters entirely.
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Let me post some actual good redesigns.
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>>493302983
I turned Mario into a koopa. Come at me.
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>>493303035
I don't think realism is exactly a redesign personally.
Also
>Mario if he real
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>>493302524
I only just looked. The hell is up with her jawline?
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>>493303035
good
>>493303283
decent
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horrid
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>>493303604
knowing the rest of the picture, they probably made her a troon.
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>>493304040
My poor Luigi...
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>>493302157
oH YEah mARio time!
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What the fuck is happening?
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>>493303035
I thought you said good
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>>493304414
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>>493304278
Is this fixing the 1993 movie?
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>>493302157
>>493304414
>P*achette-inspired Peach
>brown Daisy in sporty clothes with a flower in her hair
>Toads with hair (and not the good kind)
Do these people ever have any original ideas?
>>493304748
Mario '93 doesn't need fixing.
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>>493304648
mitsame sees the vision...
>>493304414
Think this is from another artist
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This is awful.
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This art spam makes me want to vomit, post actual good art or eye bleach please
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This is Fawful.
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>>493305460
Wolf Luigi CUTE!
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>Miyamoto-fying the Kongs in the mario redesigns
Hmm, a bit based. Could see a cartoon based off this, though the DKC show is still kino.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0w2lrn0a4Q
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>>493304960
The Kongs are the only thing done right here besides maybe Yoshi.
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>>493304506
DeviantArt invasion.
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Ah yes, the uncanny early 2000s "Mario, but realistic" aesthetic, where the bros were always depicted as scruffy 40 year olds.
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Mamma mia! It's-a schizo! Yahoooo!
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>>493305640
Wasn't Miyamoto the one that wanted them changed for DKC?
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>>493305791
Mario if he extremely real...
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>this thread's spam
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>>493306725
mario if he real
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>>493306725
mario if he real
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>>493306725
mario if he reel
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I'm new around here. Is this something that happens often?
>>493307003
kek
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>>493307173
No, usually it's a shitposter arguing with himself or someone who actually fell for it.
This is an improvement.
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Wake up Samus... save me from spammer schizo...
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>>493307273
>brendancorris
>the futa gooner
aw hell....
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>>493306341
LOL
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More official art that cleanses the eyes please?
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>>493305538
This one just screams
>I grew up on 2000s Cartoon Network and it left me a changed person, for better or for worse
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>>493306725
mario if he real
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>>493305791
wtf
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Turn this realism bot off already.
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>>493307995
Meant for >>493307786
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ENOUGH.
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Does 3D World on the Switch have online co-op?
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All right, I'll stop. I only did this because someone posted that bait redesign image where Daisy and Pauline had different skin colors, which gave me inspiration to go through good old memory lane to post fanart of the weird era where nearly every artist wanted to draw Mario in a edgy/realistic way.
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...This botfag probably will go on until bump limit. I'm gonna take a nap.
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>>493308679
Meant to reply to this.
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>>493308996
>I'll show that retard who the REAL retard is
Fuck off attention whore
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>Brown daisy causes meltdowns this easily
Cope, chud.
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>>493309386
[reply recognizing that you are dramafag but expressing disdain for the people in the world who actually think like this]
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My two cents as a fellow drawfag
>>493302157
Kudos to the artist for all the Koopa and enemies designs being great, specially Kamek and Kammy (although Bowser is a little uninspired).
Everyone else but the ones Im mentioning next are basic at best and meh at worst; the Toads are not my tea of cup, but they are not bad by any means.
...Now, all human girls (and specifically all of them, somehow) are completely and utterly fucked up in their own unique way, all of them with no exceptions. It was almost as if the artist completely ignored the core traits of their designs and went with some strange self-inserting/ideological fantasies. The only two barely passable are Peach and White Mage and even you cant help but ask what was the artist thinking with those design choices.
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Addendum. Im baffled at how the extra girls added are ALSO COMPLETELY FUCKED UP. I swear Im seeing a pattern here. All Kong characters are... not terribly bad, but not good either, though I see they are inspired in the Arcade/NES days, which I suppose it's a kudos... the fuck is that Funky though.
>>493304648
Bowser looking like he had a vacation at N-Sanity Island is something interesting, though Im not a fan of the cape and the gradients. Toad doesnt look great, but it's not bad, I dont like how the signature roundness of Toads is missing here.
Daisy's entire design got completely ignored and that is an immediate NO for me. Peach is a mixed bag, it's not the best I've seen, but at least she is still cute.
The bros look pretty cartoony, it's not bad, I kind of dig it. That said...
>rainbow belt on Luigi
I dont like partaking in ideology wars, but still, why.
>>493304414
The Bros look fine, I will forgive the Toads because I feel the artist struggled with them. Peach... I see the vision and it's noble, but I dont think it was well executed. Daisy's core design being ignored again is second hand insulting at this point...

I should probably talk less and make my redesign on the main girls
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Retards
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>>493309561
Mucho texto poco braino
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>The original image was taken from a current /v/ thread
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>>493309207
>>I'll show that retard who the REAL retard is
That was never the point. I just wanted to post those classic old "Mario if he real/edgy" fanart for laughs instead of dealing with the same bait image again.
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Nobody cares how you came to your dumbass decision
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>>493309893
For the record, anon, I thought it was funny.
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>>493308996
>>493309893
Then say that first then moron.
Don't just say "good redesigns" and go for an ulterior motive with spammed grotesque art which no one knows when it was going to stop.
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Some people take the bing bing wahoo thread too seriously
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>bing bing wahoo
shitposter detected
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>>493302157 here.
I apologize profusely for the hell that I unleashed.
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>>493311364
See you again, same text, same image, next month.
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>>493302465
At least get your shitposts straight. This is the image that got posted on /v/ all the time, not the one I posted earlier.
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>>493312261
>outting yourself as a newfag
The other image gets posted on /v/ a lot.
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It's weird. We have a good few days with some nice discussion then a couple schizos show up and remind me what website I'm on
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>>493302157
>>493311364
>>493312261
Who do you think you're fooling
>>>/v/687894182
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>>493312723
I don't think I'm fooling anyone. I saw a picture on /v/ and reposted it here. That is a thing people do all over the site, take things from one thread and repost them in another.
I just didn't expect someone to have a meltdown and start spamming a bunch of other equally horrible (with a few that were cool) images in response.
So I wanted to apologize for that.
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Double Dash HD with online multiplayer... pls...
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>>493311278
>Some people take the bing bing wahoo thread too seriously
This is a general, not a thread.
Flooding out of nowhere just always sucks when people are active and trying to discuss. Take that to /v/ not /smbg/.
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>>493312960
apolgies mean nothing, you wanted ragebait, you got your ragebait. that /v/ thread also had it
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>>493313035
Only proving my point
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Anons
STFU
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>>493313002
Double Dash is pretty bad.
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>>493313379
spoken like a true /v/tard, no one wants your floods
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>>493313346
'k
If that's what you want to believe, then so be it.
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>>493313579
But I rike it. It's weird and cool
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>>493313579
Double Dash is better than your favorite Mario Kart game.
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>>493313910
Double Dash is worse than your least favorite Mario Kart game.
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I'm surprised people dislike Double Dash
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>>493314467
I find it weird how everyone used to glaze Double Dash and call it the best entry ever, but now everyone shits on it and says either MKWii or MK7 as the best entries.
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>>493314382
NTA but
>Double dash is only worse than MK8 deluxe
Not bad.
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>>493315068
The zoomers grew up.
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Whenever I replay Galaxy the music makes me emotional. Am I a bitch?
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>>493315552
Nah, that's just the mark of a good soundtrack, especially if it's one you've already got sentimental value for.
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>>493315068
>I find it weird how everyone used to glaze Double Dash and call it the best entry ever
This never happened, people glazed Mario Kart Wii even then, never realizing Motorcycles destroyed the meta entirely because "le fun"
>says either MKWii or MK7 as the best entries.
no one praises Mk7
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>>493315552
https://youtube.com/watch?v=x4WjESkpwCg
Even though Galaxy 2 arguably has the better gameplay and visuals, it can’t match the atmosphere of Galaxy 1
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>>493315068
Cultists from the Gamecube era bigged up a lot of it's games despite some being disappointing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieWbp7_tOWE
Also, Space Fantasy being completely absent from Galaxy 2 really hurts the cosmic vibe that Galaxy 1 had
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>>493317256
It would have been silly to try and copy Galaxy 1's feeling. Galaxy 2 is about being a grand new adventure. Mario's conquered space in the past, and it's time for him to have some fun this time.
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The cursed Wiggler with only 1 body segment
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>>493319716
>cursed
Do not besmirch Skrumpy Jack
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>>493317012
Lots of people just had the most fun with Double Dash, it had many character combinations to choose from and arguably the best Mario Kart items.
Also MKDD had no egregious spammed meta picks like MKwii or MK8 deluxe.
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Maybe I should wait till next thread to ask, but are there any Attack on Titan fans here? It's Mario related, for the record.
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>>493320259
I don't think there's many AoT fans left after how controversial the ending was
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>>493320259
Oh boy I want to hear this
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>>493279964
what? you prefer the made up fire palm? which mind you, came before the firebrand from SS saga
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>>493304960
>Makes every woman that isn't Peach brown or BLACK
>Weird redesign on Mona and Ashley
Man at least the Kongs look fine
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>>>/v/687911351
Really, nigga?
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>>493315702
>Complaining about MKWii's meta
>mfw I managed to give a good fight and score a few victories against meta pick players using my go-to pick (Mii + Dolphin Dasher/Nitrocycle)
s-skill issue...?
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>ai slop
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>>493322782
Is...is he trying to make a boogeyman out of this isolated occurrence?
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>>493321364
Actually, Smash 64 Mario's forward smash was a forward punch. The fire effects were added in Melee because Mario is associated with fire. That's why the firebrand was even a thing. It's like how Mario can use fire in SMRPG.
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>>493322782
>The Mario Redesignfag
Bait attempt or another on the list of the endless schizos on the site.
also good thing that thread archived quickly, don't want to drag more of them here, stupid anon
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>>493323887
It always is.
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Worth nothing, but I just wanted to mention it because it was brought up a long time ago:
To whoever told me about powercycling the modem to reroll the dynamic IP and escape the decade-old permaban whenever it rolls, thank you! It actually worked.
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>>493324557
Cheers, mate
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>>493323887
>s-skill issue
You're most likely playing against bad players. Though the main issue is they flood the roster and you don't get much unique experiences in the MkWii or Mk8 deluxe, not that they are hard to beat.
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>>493323887
>MKWii's meta
>Nitrocycle
>Dolphin Dasher
Those are more motorcycles shitter, you're a meta pick player.
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>>493312723
these are mostly shit but bowser should absolutely rock the cape again
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>>493209676
I definitely expect a "safer" 2D Mario in that vein to be released at some point, but I doubt it would use the New Soup branding. From what I've heard from interviews, I could see a game kind of like Mario 3 with levels that are more difficult than New Soup's (minus NSLU, which they've mentioned wanting to take inspiration from) and Wonder's non-special levels.
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>>492998049
Was about to post this image but it was already posted. ya-mari 6363 remains kino.
https://x.com/ya_mari_6363/status/1830981902293172413



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