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/vrpg/ is a place to discuss all types of role-playing video games, including single-player, multi-player, and massively multi-player, turn-based and real-time action, western-style and JRPG.

Does this mean RPGs are banned on other video game boards? No! /vrpg/ is just a separate board specifically focused on RPGs where discussions about your favorite games can thrive.

Please familiarize yourself with the rules and remember to use the spoiler function where appropriate!

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>hear people complain how black and white fallout 3 is and how much better new vegas is
>play new vegas
>first conflict: help the town that selflessly saved your life or side with bandits to slaughter them for no reason

Obsidian don't do 'grey'. They do 'painfully obviously good/evil'
New Vegas is honestly one of the best examples of this
Most of the choices are literally 'kill the nice people/innocents or else let the evil guys take over'
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>>3907966
Sounds like Fallout 4 would be more up your alley if you want a protagonist with a pre-defined backstory.
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>>3907966
there's a point where you're complaining about the game simply existing and that having any narrative at all is an affront to you specifically
>narrative hook doesn't work after you reach Benny (I'd argue the whole Benny plot doesn't work either.
that's an opinion
>You don't have anything to offer them.
that's untrue and every single faction leader explains to you why that isn't the case.
>most excited to do the Choose Your Colour politics stuff
it's an rpg
>characterisation on the backburner.
no
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>>3907966
>The biggest problem with New Vegas is the narrative hook doesn't work after you reach Benny (I'd argue the whole Benny plot doesn't work either. Going alone after someone who shot you and you know nothing about, stupid. Guy is chilling right beside the billionaire he just mugged, stupid).
There was an ending where you left the Mojave, but it was cut because it was dumb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cFUp9zr_ms
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>>3903612
If you're referring to the Tenpenny's quest, Then maybe.
But the main quest itself is just a plain good guy vs bad guy story.
Now that I think about it, Colonel Autumn's motive makes no sense at all.

>he wants to restore Enclave's reputation by activating water purifier
>kills an innocent scientist anyway
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>>3903029
Goodspring is just a glorified tutorial level. It basically just teaches you multiple ways to beat the towns quest and the basic function on reputation system. Somehow Josh Sawyer and his team managed to show you how game mechanic works without telling you directly.

>try playing dragon quest v
>get to 2nd dungeon (the haunted house)
>run into skeleton snake that can summon more skeleton snakes
>keep trying to kill them but it has unlimited reinforcements
>up to like the 8th snake before I run out of healing items and die
yo wtf I thought jrpgs were supposed to be easy games for babies.
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Give the loli a whip.
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>>3907983
but it costs 350 gold and I only have 220. am I supposed to be grinding a bunch?
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>>3907994
no it's a dragon quest game and the series is known for being really quick to get through without grinding, you should keep trying you're probably getting weird rng, maybe try resetting the console/emulator
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>>3908000
>known for being really quick to get through without grinding
damn really? I went back and fought enemies until I could buy a boomerang and then it was easy. before it seemed impossible. I just got the cat when do I get my wife?

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How come people go insane about Final Fantasy switching from turn-based to action, but no one complains about Yakuza switching from action to turn-based? the combat in Yakuza has become objectively worse
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>>3905784
This mostly gets addressed in Infinite Wealth. You have a finite range to move characters during their turn, directional attacks into other enemies/party members, and just improved and less rage-inducing AoE attacks in general.
If anything it's an over-correction, and AoE is basically all you want to do until you get down to the bosses themselves.
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>>3904920
it's only one game, faggot. Calm down.
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>>3904920
big pet peeve i had with this game was when you get Eri she's just not in any of the cutscenes or anything despite being with you. feels lazy to not just have the cutscenes change based on whether or not she's there
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>>3904932
Nobody likes the new system.
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>>3904920
because they still make action yakuza games

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I heard this was a fantastic entry to start this series on, but is it worth stomaching the shitty AI upscaling for the new content in the remaster or should I just emulate the original?
Anyway, I suppose this can also serve as a general purpose Romancing SaGa thread.
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>>3902649
This isn't a Final Fantasy/Octoshart Traveler thread
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>>3900982
MS is one of my favorite games of the franchise, but if you want a beginner-friendly Saga game, it’s RS2 RotS that you want.
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>>3901034
>Will tell you to play SaGa 1 on the GB
Do not listen to this man, play the WSC version of SaGa 1. It offers a massive QoL improvement that actually makes monsters far more viable since you can SEE what they turn into when eating meat.
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>>3900982
Emulating the original original or the PS2 version? In any case do whatever you want.
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>>3900982
I first heard about Romancing SaGa from a Hyadain song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFOw90kjf1E and after listening to the song on repeat a hundred times I bought the Minstrel Song remaster but I was disappointed because the art wasn't like in the video. I mean to play it but every time I look at it I feel a bit turned off by the art style which I think means I just need to play the original.

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What's a popular JRPG opinion you regularly hear that is stupid?
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>>3904200
I just hate how much time every single JRPG wastes. They seem to relish disrespecting your time even with the animations that come in between animations, menu scrolling, battle intros, battle outros, flourishes. They use the same brush they use to make those 25 minute cutscenes to make every other aspect of the game down to menu fonts. And that brush is a paint roller.
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>>3907366
youre tripping. The Kia plottwist was really well foreshadowed since the beginning of the game and amazingly executed
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>>3904200
HD2D looks good.
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>>3906711
What is cultural marxism? And what do you define as faggotry?
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>>3907545
>villain who has been planning his epic plan for decades gets talked down in 5 seconds
>then another shitty villain pretends to kill him for absolutely no reason instead of just killing him
>game then just ends abruptly with "please play cold steel" while also spoiling a bunch of shit that happens in the process because they didnt want to actually write an ending
its awful the game completely shits the bed at the final dungeon in general

What's your summoner of choice?
Personally I feel like making evil demons your bitch is more appealing than torturing souls of potentially good men and defiling their bodies
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>>3907943
With warlocks you're the demon's bitch.

I like summoner playstyles where your minions are suicide bombers.
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>>3907943
>Summoning builds
It might be the tabletop player in me but I'm consistently disgusted by this behaviour, with very, very few exceptions.
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>>3907984
>With warlocks you're the demon's bitch.
I'm not hearing a negative.
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>>3907943
>Personally I feel like making evil demons your bitch is more appealing than torturing souls of potentially good men and defiling their bodies
Amateur, a good necromancer traps the souls of demons.
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>>3907943
I like debuff classes and don't really enjoy pet classes so given the choice I usually go for warlock

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Should I finally get it?
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>>3907745
>700+ Max HP
>300+ Max BP
I think you're underleveled at this point. Not that you need to grind, it's just that you now have to treat the game as if you're playing on Romancing difficulty where attacks one shot you. In this case, you give everyone Guards and a 1-handed weapon, preferably axes and swords. Use any of the following formation: Imperial Arrow, Rising Phoenix, Dragon Stance, Divine Wall. I suggest doing the post-game Seven Heroes fight and beat them in 5 turns or less. You get their personal weapons as a reward for beating within the turn limit and you get OP abilities you can use for the Dread Queen.
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Remaster Dread Queen or Remake Dread Queen on Romancing difficulty: Which version do you prefer, and which one is harder?
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>>3907774
Oh I know I'm underlevelled. Wasn't necessarily intentional but it has been fun figuring things out. All the discussion I see online says you'll probably hit the Enemy Strength cap of 16 before the final boss and I'm currently at 13. I just barely scraped by on the Seven Heroes fight, with my next significant option being to grind 60 fights with new classes for new abilities(which I'll probably do now).

The only reason I made it to phase 2 of Dread Queen was because my Heavy Infantry had the ability to survive with 1 health from the big fuck you move. I'll keep your advice in mind since I do have Divine Wall to work with but I'm okay trying my own stuff for a bit more. I'm also only on Normal difficulty cause I wanted to be able to experiment more and this is the first time I've taken a Saga game seriously.
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>>3907735
Personally against Dantarg I used water mist on one guy to support my party.
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>>3907826
Remaster dead queen is too easy to cheese
if you get 128 status defense you're immune to most of her attacks. Buff speed and you'll have a 100% counter rate against the phys attacks. Can't remember if you need sword barrier or missile guard.
The only attack that can damage you is the second phase's wracking and it's very weak

Is this an RPG?
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>>3906612
>(which is what I'm doing right now, it's impossible to escape the factions)
A rare level of self-awareness for the /vrpg/ poster. Commendable.
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RPGlsuck. I'm attracted to this board because the only video game I like period is an RPG but I straight up dislike almost every game this board talks about
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>>3906612
So basically, this board and about 90% of the posters here.
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>>3906441
Witcher 1 is all about the atmosphere and sheer SOVL.
Also, imagine being filtered by poker dice.
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>>3907886
Im playing kcd2 and its kinda funny how soulless the dice game in it feels compared to witcher 1 or 2
cdpr just understands something warhorse studio doesnt

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This is pretty much as good as Morrowind and Kotor
you should play it anon
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>>3907637
Yes. But it's going to be more difficult at the beginning when you don't have many ways to deal with bundles of enemies.
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>>3907487
my eastern european sister finished wizardry 8 a few times while still in highschool, this board is just brown and retarded
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>>3907656
is your sister hot? a girl that plays wizardry 8 sounds like a keeper
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>>3907260
>This is pretty much as good as [vastly different and unrelated games]
But is it as good as FC 26?
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>Make a step
>Combat against 5 slimes
>Make another step
>Combat against 5 crabs
>Make a step
>5 bandits appear

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Anyone playing Dungeon Antiqua 2? Seems pretty basic, but it's alright so far. Got it because it's aping FFV's job system, which I'm a sucker for.
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>>3907031
This, but unironically.
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>>3907025
Still early on, but the only plot I've seen so far is, "The Archdemon has returned."
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>>3906657
Is it storyshit
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>>3907829
Worse - it's gameplayshit that doesn't even have its own original gameplay.
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>>3907911
Dang

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Why did they make his outfit so gross looking
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>>3902768
When FFX was still new, I had pants where the bottom halves could zip off so it became shorts. I and several other kids would sometimes just wear one pant leg to look like Tidus and we all thought it was super cool.
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>>3903574
Sounds like a bunch of nerds to me. Nerds did start multiply around the year 2000.
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>>3902768
The more I look at it the worst it gets.
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>>3903384
Peak?
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>>3903384

WHEN YOU WALK AWAY

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Look Outside is pretty neat
Lots of exploration, plenty of detailed sprites
Combat is pretty basic (RPGmaker), so if that's your focus you might be disappointed
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>>3907924
canon sequel
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>>3907924
what about Vit-Amon?
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>>3907945
Blackhole in one is a neat skill but I needed more direct damage dealing
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Drag-Faggot Ass-Spider.
(Scientific name: Analus Whorus)
A species of spider from the genus spider in the Spider family.
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>>3907982
Imagine the anal vore

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Just finished Infection after killing the final boss, bonus boss, and moving my save to the 2nd game(Mutation). As the first game in the series, it immerses you into its story and world with its early 2000s Internet interface menus and message boards taking you along for the ride through it combat mechanics, leveling, story characters you meet long the way and party gearing. There's alot of bad I can talk about like the constant menuing in later parts of the game, the empty overworld, the lack of difficulty, but as for the first game in the series I think I can look past those things for what the devs were going for .What do you think of the first game and others in the series?
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>>3907481
I honestly don't remember much about it other than the cute catboy. The shota Mia.
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make sure you have the right core (or whatever those hacking items are called) for later on or else you'll have to find it again which is a pain. i don't remember the specific details though
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>>3906301
Gorre is my favorite phase even if the boss fight doesn't do anything mechanically new.
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>>3907249
>It gives better spells, has more Mdef
why give light armor to someone who just misses with spells in the first place? It's ok to give a light armor head pieces so atleast someone can heal after the fight is over if you don't want a wavemaster healer
>>3907481
its worth a watch
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>>3907475
You are missing dothack//frägment

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LAST TIME
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/729767208/
>Cecil, Captain of the Blackwings, went to Mysidia to steal their Crystal
>returning home, Cecil felt bad, so the king stripped him of his rank and sent him to deliver a bomb ring to Mist, the town of summoners
>devastated by her lost, Rydia, a 7 year old girl, summoned Titan, separating Cecil and his friend Kain from their home
>They met up with Tellah, a wise sage, who killed Edward, Prince of Damcyan
>eventually, Cecil came to the mount of Ordeals, conquering his inner darkness to become the warrior of myth...the FELL KNIGHT
>meanwhile, Rydia somehow grew to adulthood and has been pursuing us, killing one of the twin mages that was helping us
>Rosa, meanwhile, got captured by Golbez, turning on him and becoming the mighty Auranox, because god forbid Cecil have any female romantic interests
>Now, with Golbez shaking off his brainwashing, he joins the party
>Can we stop Auranox from gathering the crystals for...reasons?
>And can we get rydia to calm her tits and stop trying to kill us?

Yeah, this game is hilariously stupid. I started this on NYE, but it's less choice based so I'll be playing it here instead of /v/.
What the fuck is this?

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>Immediately have to fight the fucking demon wall afterward
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Alright, and with that cave clear, I'm going to call it for the night. I'm wagecucking tomorrow, so I'll see if I can play more then, otherwise Tuesday.
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>>3907970
I was joking about Porom dying before, but I'm actually surprised the party hasn't changed at all. Now I'm wondering if FuSoYa will even join at all.


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