>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases.State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC>CPUGaming: 12400, 7600, 9800X3D; for existing AM4 users: 5700X3DWorkstation: 265K, 9900X, 9950X>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer III, Hyte THICC Q60Double towers: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67>MOTHERBOARDASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer/Steel Legend, cheap X870, x870e Nova>RAMDDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GBDDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30Workstation/high end: consider 2x48GB>SSD (OS drive)Budget: SN580Mid range: NM790Premium: Samsung 990 Pro (Windows only), SN850XFlagship: Sabrent Rocket 5>GPU1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT1440p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7900 GRE2160p: RTX 4090, RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XTXWorkstation: RTX 4000 Series>CASE (from $ to $$$)mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air MiniATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/IIIAVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases>PSUBudget: Gold rated 500-600W PSUMid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max loadHigh end: Seasonic PRIME TXAVOID: GAMEMAXPSU buying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)>MONITOR1080p: KOORUI 24E3, MSI G2412F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E21440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, Gigabyte M32U, Dell Alienware AW3225QF>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansHigh end: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)Previous:>>103188033
>>103191981>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY0kEB-1MIc>I've been seeing a lot of news around like burned 9800x3d's because two people couldn't figure out how to put a CPU into a CPU socketLMAO
So modern titles with shitty TAA enforced look bad at 1080p solely because of TAA and look good with DLSS at 1440p+ becasue the base 1080p they rely on is with TAA disabled and the convolutional autoencoder simply does a better job than TAA could ever do at anti aliasing and resolving that "dither" like pattern which is present due to developers working around TAA.The solution for 1080p is to force disable TAA to be as smooth but not as clean unfortunately.DLSS simply works with a very smooth image as a base.
>>103191992A fool and his money quickly depart.
>>103191981linus sex ships
Are OLED monitors still a meme?
>>103192061depends on how much you pay or if you're even interested in a bit darker blacks or whatever
>>103192061it never was
>>103192061Always.But if you insist on 1440p 2160p I guess they have the lowest response time as such panels with decent response time are already as expensive as an OLED one.And at that price point you're already wasting and shitting money so might as well get one?Unfortunately cheap 1440p IPS displays are a total meme as well, almost none come with sRGB clamp, they all have ridiculously bad g2g times and other flaws.So we live in a strange situation where the cheapest 1080p and the most expensive OLED are the only viable monitors.
Best 1440p VA 144Hz (or 160Hz) monitor?>VAI want the contrast ratio but I'm too poor for OLED
>>103192108Just put some vaseline over your current monitor and you have the VA experience.
Corsair, NZXT, Super Flower or FSP for a PSU? 1k-1.2k watts if that impacts the brand you'd recommend. Looking to spend around $150-200.
>>103192112If I wanted an opaque sheen across my monitor, I'd buy IPS for the backlight bleed and panel glow
>>103192120truly the only fix for this is an oled monitor every 18 months
>>103192120You do not see backlight bleed at all. (unless it's a defect).The problem is that in total darkness say next to an OLED you will notice that darkest darks, are grayish in comparison.In absence of the OLED you will adjust to the IPS darks.Solution 1You can mitigate it a lot by buying one of those rare 1500:1 contrast IPS panels.Solution 2Remove the matte coating, it will instantly give an effective higher contrast perception, oled panels already come with glossy displays so that's why they look more unique.Also removing matte coating gives you objectively higher contrast ratio at all light conditions.Solution 3 (if you play in daylight)Craft a monitor hood.
>>103191992Sometimes you're excited to get new thing and you just fuck up... but what makes the difference is knowing you fucked up and not blaming the parts. I left the plastic bit on the bottom of my cooler for about 30 minutes. Then after reseating, I kept smelling a chemically plastic smell and got paranoid as shit, but it's since went away with no issues.
>>103191996More effects of devs designing for DLSS on>>1031920931440p IPS works on my machine for daily use and games.
>>103192165>1440p IPS works on my machine for daily use and games.Many retards swear by VA panels as well.
>>103192165IPS has no contrast and is the worst display tech imo
>>103192167I have an LG OLED tv for media. IPS is peak for pc gaming, VA is complete dogshit
>>103192119You are confusing brands and manufacturers
Unfortunately we saw a slight regress, the changes around affected the latency a bit.Let's hope that next gen will truly be a new architecture and they'll provide latency reductions gen-to-gen like before.
>>103192167its all about usecases, anonif some zoomer faggot asks me for a cheap monitor to play fortnite on, im recommending 27/1440p/144hz ipsif some boomer faggot asks me for a cheap monitor to play Civ/Factorio and watch movies and youtube, im recommending 32/4k/60hz VA
>>103192223I understand only companies like Super Flower / FSP actually manufacture PSUs and then brands like Corsair, NZXT, etc... buy from manufacturers and slap their label on it. The point still stands, what would be the best manufacturer or brand to buy a 1-1.2k watt PSU from these days?
>>103192301There is a link in the OP. It's a curated list by a guy who can wield an oscilloscope.
Are the screw holes on Arctic P14's threaded or do you have to drill through plastic?
Buildzoid did a videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY0kEB-1MIc
>>103192330No she didn't
>>103192330Read the thread.
>>103192315I've looked at HWbusters. All the brands I've listed are the ones that pop up in his top rankings. I guess I just wanted to see if anyone here had some more specific insight since they all appear "just as good" from my perspective. I'll go look at some of his individual reviews for the units I'm considering.
>>103192119For "top end mainstream" you'd want one of these models:There won't be much difference in practical use but there will be some minor variations - up to you if you want to get that detailed.>CorsairRMx Shift, RMx (2024)>Super FlowerLeadex VII XG, (Zillion FG?)>FSPHydro G Pro
>>103192345no
>>103192383faggot
>>103192347(>>103192354 here)>since they all appear "just as good" from my perspectiveThat's basically correct. I suppose the main delineator will be the ATX revision - 3.1 should be preferred but 3.0 is not a dealbreaker. Aside from that it's mostly a matter of noise and price because any one of these will handle any combination of consumer hardware on the market.I did miss out NZXT on my list but fortunately there's only one ATX3.1 model in the C (2024). Again it'll be extremely similar to the others.
>>103192387no
>>103192236Zen5 is a huge rework of the zen core which is why you get perf tradeoffs like this. What you're asking for is a minor uarch optimization that makes the core slightly better in every way like zen4 over zen3
>>103192424hey they've been stagnating from earlier it seems
>>103189904>no bro rx5700xt is no good you need to get rtx 4070 for 5 year old games in 1080p
>>103192439unfortunately yeahlooks like they had to make some compromise somewhere, to get that +20% uplift in avx512 apps
>>103192470seems like ddr5 carried them trough further but otherwise it's pure stagnation
>>103192470I've read they undid a couple of optimisations found in zen3 and zen4 and didn't add it back to zen5 because of lack of timeAlso their fused multiply add under avx2 regressed to 2 cycles from the 1 cycle of the previous 2 generations >>103192474Nah they were too ambitious at improving the core while only barely touching the memory subsystems (L1D increased to 48kb). Their zen5 core is massively memory bottlenecked and is borderline a waste of engineering effort because of this
>>103192504I meant with zen 4 but I agree with your take, it seems like a waste of engineering, the expectation was to at least see a different memory controller.
>>103191992I'm scared to put my 9800x3d in, it's just sitting in its box. I fuck everything up and am also dumb.
>>103192537Pay a professional $50 to put it in for you then
not really looking to upgrade my complete pc for 1-2+ years besides GPU, would going from a 5600x to 5700x3d be good or is 5600x vaguely enough and not a significant upgrade? dont really wanna swap motherboard and ram etc for now, since 5700x3d is just 200$. using a 4060 ti super and id rather just upgrade my gpu only in coming future.
>>103192558just tighten your ram timings and the 5600 will perform like a 3d
>>103192557What technique do they use to not bend those delicate looking pins?
>>103192557Feels like cuckery.
>>103192388>>103192354Thank you, I will just wait and see if there are any good sales, and hopefully I can snag one for $150-180
>>103192568Careful hands and 2 neurons is my guess>>103192570>Feels like
>>103192568CPU mating press
>>103192568You put the CPU inside the socket.Hell, I did it while sitting on the floor.
>>103192614I'm afraid it will drop down a little when I lower it and bend the delicate pins.
>>103192580The NZXT C1000 and Leadex VII XG 1kW are in that bracket as we speak. With how commodity products like PSUs are sold, those models are probably already "on sale" - other models will "take their turn" in time.There's also a few other models to consider outside of your brand list:>BeQuiet Pure Power ($140) and Straight Power ($170) 12>Seasonic Focus GX ATX3 (currently over $180 but, again, this can change day-to-day)>Thermaltake GF3 ($160)>MSI A_G ($140)>CM MWE Gold V2 ($150)The cheaper ones aren't quite as good as those we've discussed but may be more than enough depending on your demands.
Should I remove the thermal paste that comes with my aio and apply my own? How much difference will it make?Also are those things like the thermalright secure frame worth it?
>>103192623Lay your board flat on the ground and install the CPU. It should sit flush in the socket and not be moveable in any direction. Then clamp down the socket.Am5 is fairly easy to install unlike lga1700 which actually needs the strength of a gorilla to clamp down (hence why the CPU bends)
>mobo manuals: "do not bend sata cables beyond 45 degrees">meanwhile case designers: this shit
https://www.msi.com/news/detail/MSI-Statement-on-Ryzen-7-9800X3D-Damage-Incident-145012AYYMDEAD HOUSEFIRESX
>>103192568advanced techniques such as using the alignment pins and not accidentally dropping shit into the socket
>>103192644>Should I remove the thermal paste that comes with my aio and apply my own?Probably not. Exceptions below.>How much difference will it make?Maybe 1-2C if you swap it out with some top-tier paste.If, however, the paste on the coldplate has expired it could be much more. For example you happen to get old stock or if the sealing was damaged in transit (to the warehouse).>Also are those things like the thermalright secure frame worth it?For AM5? No. Pure aesthetics.For 1700/1851? Maybe. You might see a benefit under OC or with memory tuning. Some potential benefit to resale value but I imagine reselling a 1700 chip will be difficult at best.
>>103192667because bending a cable to the point where its shielding could break is exactly the same as a 90 degree connector from the factory
>>103192672>gamersnexusoh great, a two hour video about how AMD bad because they didn't hold the hand of a moron who smashed a cpu into a socket and then forced the loading mechanism closed.
>>103192704They offered to pay for the guy to get a new cpu and motherboard if he sent it to them. Lucky.
>>103192672>>103192704>>103192746Jfc, its clear as day that the users are responsible for the damage. Gamersnexus is way too generous. This happened to only 2 people, how did this blow up like it did anyway.Not that i feel bad for the companies, but its also ridiculous how amd and msi are forced to respond since their reputation is at stake.Imagine if you give someone a pen to write, but then they stab themselves and you are held accountable.
>>103192672investigating what? how a person who can't put a square inside a bigger square could buy the fastest cpu in the world?
Is this the right thread for computer mouse discussions? Anyway I suspect the one I bought for 30 bucks is starting to double click on the right button, is it fixable?
>>103192810yes, just solder in a new switch
>>103192785>users are responsible for the damageI bet they did it on purpose too.
>>103192814Need to learn how to solder then, afraid I'll break the button tho while prying it off
>>103192828your biggest hurdle is finding a new switch. but buying a soldering iron and some related supplies and a couple spare switches should work out cheaper than buying a new mouse
>>103192840Thanks a bunch! I think my dad has a soldering iron somewhere
>>103192817The korean might have genuinely fucked up, but the redditor almost definitely did it on purpose judging by the username alone. You just know he hoped some article or youtuber would mention his username because americans have to shove politics in everything they can.
>>103192689>Pure aesthetics.It does reduce the temperature, it costs peanuts and it also prevents your CPU from ever bending in any way due to the giant ass and weighty cooler.
>>103192704>How dare people be of an IQ above 100 and discuss things at length? Just consoom and be silent!
>>103192910anyone with an IQ over 80 is able to install a cpu into a socket
>>103192537i bent and ripped 2-3 pins on my 5700x3d and it just werks
>>103192903>It does reduce the temperatureOn AM5?
>>103192947Hello, anyone home?The topic was a contact frame for the am5 platform.Yes there's a 1 to 2 degrees reduction in temperature with one placed in, it might not be much but it's providing more benefits, the first of all is sleeping with the safety of mind that nothing could happen to the shape of your CPU.
>>103192957>Shape of your CPUYou gotta be pretty autistic to care about that on a CPU that barely bends
how do you fuck up amd cpu installation when the last time I checked they literally have a triangle for you to align it
>>103191981From what video is this clip?
>>103192957I was just giving you an opportunity to confirm and elaborate. Sometimes you have to do that to get a conversation rolling but, since you decided to sperg instead, I won't bother.
>>103191992>I'm a coping AMD fag and will blame the consumers not the corporation.NO! If INTEL/AMD did not where greedy fucks they add some extra plastic to make it obvious how to insert the CUP not a retarded mini mark in the corner.>You have to be blindNo fagot you are a AMD dick sucking fagot, inserting the CUP was always brain surgery. And the tiny and always changing markings are little to no help.
>>103193020It's the fault of the matriarchy.
>>103193060>t. 79 iq haver
9800x3d scalping won't be for long
>>103193020They also have a lever. The lever can't go fully down if the CPU isn't all the way in. You basically have to be retarded to let this happen.
this is the same shit that happened with the 4090 connectoridiots cant into computers
This 5.25" tray has screw holes that can't actually eat any screws that I have on hand so I improvised.
>>103193020>>103193106There also are cutouts in the pcb of the cpu that have to align with the plastic tabs in the socket.It should be, by all means, retard proof.
>>103193020>trianglePhenom-era CPU used to have it. No idea why it's gone.
>>103193100Germany should leave some of those for the rest of eu. We didnt even get any scraps down here in italy.
>>103193156It's still there
>>103192301Silverstone PSUs are pretty good, I've been running a Strider platinum for 8 years.
Computers should come with drawers. It's perfect for card reader, a few thumb drives, and a short USB-C cable to connect my phone.
>>103192177>ips is the worst display techlol. lmao
>>103193060>If INTEL/AMD did not where greedy fucks they add some extra plastic to make it obvious how to insert the CUPthey do though, on the socket. the CUP cannot physically lay flat unless you put it in correctly> And the tiny and always changing markings are little to no help.ah i see you're just retarded, sageru
>>103193167Neither Romania.
>>103193113Last I recall the 4090 thing was not due to the connector, that was just a scam Nvidia tried to pull to reject RMAs.
>>103193205front of the case should ideally be just covered in coolers with nothing blocking the airflow
Intel did a Q&A in Germany with der8auer and Bens_Hardware. When Intel was asked why it did not respond to AMD's X3D CPUs with a corresponding product, Intel said the following and is confirming Clearwater Forest using cache inside the Base Tile.>https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/news/hardware/prozessoren/64897-intel-best%C3%A4tigt-clearwater-forest-verwendet-cache-im-base-tile.html
>>103193343>Gaming a too small market for IntelKek gaymers btfo
>>103193324A single 5.25" bay at the top would not obstruct much airflow. Many cases still have a bunch of HDD bays behind the front fans, taking those out helps more.
>>103193365Should I take those out of my ancient case and buy some cheap fans or buy a new case altogether?
>>103193371wouldnt bother unless you are having issues with temps throttling your components
>>103193389Why not bother? Are you a lazy person? You seem to be given that your answer is half incoherent given what you were asked.
>>103193343Cope Intel's dying in the server space god their pathetic 3 gens of turds in all markets hedt and servers and they shit on gamersFuck them
between a 4080 and a 7900xtx which would you pick? the 4080 is $999, the 7900xtx is $850.
>>103193113Speaking of the 4090 d is it worth getting one used if I can find one cheap or just wait for a 5090
Case manufacturers and AIBs hate this one simple trick to solving GPU sag. At least for this MSI Ventus 3X, which conveniently has a hole in the shroud that allows me to do what I should have done 2 years ago before the PCB got bent out of shape. The only cost is a slight bump in the dust filter on top and the difficulty of using a fan there.
>>103193343this is the first time intel has ever admitted they are behind AMD
>>103191981Does more ram = better gaming performance Just upgraded to 32gb and I feel like my fps and loading times are better/faster by few seconds on modded SkyrimHaven't tested other games yet though
>>103193453if you upgraded to 4 sticks it's because you have more memory ranks availablehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UkGu6A-6sQmodded skyrim is very memory sensitive
>>103193272>> And the tiny and always changing markings are little to no help.if hey where not greedy fucks they make it more obvious like with this bad boy. Did anyone insert this one the wrong way? EVER?However if AMD needs to spend a extra $0.01 on extra plastic the CEO will suicide himself or something.
6950 XTs are $399 usd right now (used)
>>103193469Only 2 sticks though 2x8 to 2x16gb because I have a cheap mobo with only two slots (but supports it)
>>103193490that 2x16 kit could still be dual rankhigher RAM size obviously makes a difference if you're running out of RAM, but i've never seen that happen on a modern system with skyrim (VRAM is a different matter)
>>103193501Maybe that's a placebo effect and I should take my pills
>>103193504maybeor you embrace the schizophrenia like every regular in /pcbg/
>>103193504No it's real. If you have ddr4 it's dual rank and if it's ddr5 8GB sticks are gimped to begin with
>>103193508>If you have ddr4 it's dual rankmicron has 16gbit rev B which is in a lot of good XMP kitsthat would be single rank 2x16usually true though, i have no idea what the remaining DDR4 supply that's being sold off consists of
>>103193483>make it more obvioushow? you literally CANNOT insert it wrong without breaking both the socket and the CPU? I can tell you have never built a PC yourself
>>103193287I feel bad for you, Romania bro. 2 grand for a 9800X3D jaysus chroist.
>>103193549It actually sold via one online distributor for 542 eur. The 2k thing was a pre-built PC with a 7900x3d crap, a typo I did back then.
>>103193562Oh, well, that's less bad then.
>>103193548>how?Like this>how?AMD fanboys are mentally retarded and unable to think.>you literally CANNOTPeople managed it.>breaking Shut the fuck up!You never inserted a CPU in your life you AMD fanboy.If you did you know the entire thing is crackling and making sick noises like it is about to snap. AND THIS IS WHEN YOU INSERT IT CORRECTLY!
>>103193343all i'm seeing from this is copium on why their arrowlake cpus arent bad
>>103193617intel straight up makes better sockets (up until lga1700)i was replacing my cpu on am5 the other day and the cpu can sorta sit on top of the plastic part and still be rather stable while on intel it only fits one way since theirs tend to have 3 notches that prevents the cpu from entering until its placed perfectly
>>103193489sounds about right. they're 7900gre tier but run at 330-350w.
>>103193489100 TOPS, a 4070 has 237 TOPSAlso that wattage on the full frequency curve is depressing.
>>103193174I never notice it even though I built my own AM5 rig.
>>103191981Workstation chads, when is it worth it to get 64gb ram vs 32? Looking at 4K video editing on my machine, but don't want to spend twice as much on ram if I don't have to
>>103191981Theres a small piece of metal (probably the end of a screw) sticking out of the rod of my monitor arm. Is there a way to remove this without disassembling the entire thing? I cant move one of the arms up because of this.
>>10319199250% of the population has an iq below 100let that sink in
What happens if you play at locked 120 fps and your monitor refreshes at 500hz?
>>103191992> two peoplewho both happened to have a Tomahawcrap, kek
>>103193745no. the sink can stay outside
>>103193714it's the max am5 can get anyway, unless you go 48gb kits which are a bit more expensive, so might as well max itBut you're a coomer so you're probably on intel.
Still not seeing 9800X3D in stock.Nice launch.
>>103193848next week for sure
>>103193848it'll be available in January
>>103191992What if there was some design flaw in the socket though?Does anyone else have this same motherboard and can take a picture of it inserted properly?
>>103193848Literally check and refresh the Amazon/Newegg pages every few minutes while at your comp. That's what I did.Also, if you buy on Amazon, make sure to only buy from Amazon directly, not any third party seller. There's plenty of scalpers trying to sell for way higher, and more than a few scammers trying to sell for below MSRP to get your info / send you the wrong thi3tgtng.
>>103193205 5.25 slots are gone because of >>103193324 ... Still, Cases could fit a drawer somewhere else. >>103193365Most cases are just the right height to fit 3x 120mm fans in the front.>Many cases still have a bunch of HDD bays behind the front fansIt's pretty uncommon with modern cases, that's a 2010s thing. >taking those out helps more.When empty they're not bad at all. But again they're not really a thing anymore.>>103193371>>103193398No, if your temps are fine it doesn't matter.
>>103193877this socket is far from newi dont see why this should happen now instead of 2 years ago
>>103193617It only happened on MSI X870 Tomahawk boards of different users.
>>103193745This. One phrase I heard in life that always stuck with me is: "Think about how stupid the average person is... then realize half of them are dumber than that."
I've figured out why so many monitors have shitty response times at anything but their maximum refresh rate, because the producers are lazy as fuck and only care about a quick buck.It's basically cheating, they apply ridiculous overdrive and half-ass tune it for the default and maximum refresh rate then sell the monitor, as soon as you drop under max hz the overdrive is out of tune so you get ridiculous shit like 12ms+ at 120hz and so on.
>>103193894the tomahawk branding has a reputation for being pretty good especially back in the b450 daysI'd expect mostly clueless users to be buying a tomahawk based on years old hearsay so its not surprising to see it happening on a tomahawkalso gooks are historically very intel biased so the gook user could just be a noob who got burnt by lga1700, have never had an amd cpu before and fubar'd it
>>103193911yes that's how it is. hardware g-sync mostly fixes this problem until you hit very low hz which no overdrive can savebut its now a dying tech because of its price and poorfags
>>103193453too little ram can fuck up your frametimes and shit so yes, there has been 0 reason to run 16gb on ddr4 for ages now even for pure performance reasonsnow there is no negative running 96gb ram on amd and whatever hits 8000mhz on intel if you wanna tuneother than poverty being the reason people buy into 32gb, or they only run a game in fullscreen like a console>>103193898I know how retarded I am, then I realize people are even worse than that, that is scary>>103193911that's why you ideally have a single od setting that is good across all rangeor you buy an oled that doesn't have od settings and the same at every refresh
>>103193716grind a slot in it with a dremel then screw it back enough to clear the monitor arm
>>103193617nice satire
>>103193911pretty much, yea. and afaik only rtings and monitorsunboxed on youutube are actually testing this. its probably moot though, seeing how popular oleds are and how quickly their prices are falling. a couple years from now we'll probably have $300 27/1440p oleds, and pretty much every gamer will have one.
>>103191992Maybe AMD and mobo partners should create retard proof products by having markings
>>103193409>one cheapNever. It's almost the same as before.
>>103193714There's 96gb kits going on ali for 200usd lol 6400cl32
>>103194142they do, it didn't help because retards are retarded
>>103193489Do it I miss my oc 69xtx every day79xtx is almost the same speed lolThe gains though mpt even on air are insane
>>10319345364gb here was maxed out a few times in beaming vr mp with big maps and mods in high player count serversGonna get 96gb just to be safe then double that
>>103193714>Workstation> 4K video editingYou want 128G minimum.
>>103194148Reckon a 5090 oc would run off a single 600w or do I need twin?
>BF deals just dropped on multiple other retailers>all the 4k 240hz 32" oled monitors on sale>literally all ones to choose from even the other ones>cheapest they have ever been>if I don't buy now in front of the release of all new GPUs and build a pc later I won't get good pricing until next winter>poor and full of anxiety and stress
>>103194184Not him but I wanna edit 4k drone footage would it fit in 96gb of ram or should I get 192gb?
>>103194239If you were really poor you wouldn't even consider buying 4k 240hz oled
New (old) oled problem just dropped>Static no motion fade to black crushhttps://youtu.be/U7TWwdvJ1F0on alienware 32same thing apparently happening on lg c1 but to lesser extentis this a general oled problem meme? how does the msi/asus/giga/samsung monitors behave?
>>103192119Corsair or Superflower. Danke.
>>103193714I got 64. It idles at 10g, but when you need it you need it.
How are these temps looking for a Ryzen 7900? I've only been web browsing and editing some docx files.
when do I get my 5090 :(
>>103194373When my 79xtx is too slow to run vr 6k lel
>>103194317>Thief TDPthe fucking GOAT
hey lads, building my first NAS at work, please tell me if I'm being stupidneed to store big 200GB media files, downloaded or copied from USB, then fed to several LAN machines>4x Seagate IronWolf Pro 16 TB - for RAID5>Antec P101 Silent - it's got a nice rack for 8 disks so we can expand in a few years>Intel Celeron G6900 (3.4 GHz) - cheapest here>MSI PRO B760-P WIFI DDR4 - got a few good PCI>G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3200 MHz CL16 - 16GB seems enough but I'm thinking 32 just to be sure>Samsung SSD 990 EVO M.2 PCIe NVMe 1 TB>Textorm TX350+ - no GPU no power>ASUS XG-C100C V2 - need me some 10Gbps LAN>later on we'll get any Startech PCI 4xSATA to add more disks, I guesscheers
>>103194142At that point retards should just stick to prebuilts or pay micro center to do it for them because they lack the brain capacity to figure out something so simple
>>103191981please tell me that's a woman
>>103192138Jesus, this fucking happens to everyone with their first build, doesn't it? It's like a rite of passage.
>>103194142>>103194442I've been saying for a while that people shouldn't build PCs and should just get a prebuilt because they're usually too retarded to manage it on their own.
>>103193116meh, if it works it werks
>>103193205Ah, yes. Keep that glue stick nice and warm.
>if there's a $400 8gb card next gen I might just have to hit it with a sledgehammer5060 8gb going to get the sledgehammer from HW Unboxed Steve.
>>103193438I lel'd
>>103194512nvidia would make a $400 8gb card because there are htpc people who would overpay just to have nvenc.
>>103194512well xx60 gpus have been terible for 3 gens now for nvidia so
oh nononointel goys, our response?
>>103194099yea oleds are very popular, everyone ones one and a 4090 as well, fuck the alarm on my lambo just turned on
>>103194239wait til Q4 2025 you stupid consoomer cattle
>>103194541This but unironically>>103148690
>>103194555>WOLEDthose are gonna be cucked and subpar compared to QDOLED again5120x2160 is pretty cool thotrue RGB pixels are pretty coolbut still cucked by QDOLEDstill no DP2.1 ?>buy any display over 1440p240hz or 4k144hz or 1080p360hz and you get hit with the DSC-Jew>Oled monitors are not only expensive but also riddled with fuck ups you pay for after you shelled out all the monne>everything you buy will have some fuck up that you will have to cope with regardless>everything is shit>just pay up and cope
Any recommended cable brands in general? Mostly looking for DisplayPort, USB-C, HDMI, etc. The expensive ones are scams but the cheap ones aren't that good either.
>>103194529its not just cache sensitive applications that benefit, due to the IF Ryzen has a memory bottleneck that benefits from the excess cache not having to go out to the ram as frequently.Anyway I'm glad Intel has found a use for its Adamantine after cancelling it.
>>103194582learn to read dumbdumbQ4 2025 has R-G-B oled pixelsthis is endgame stuff
>>103194565based 42" lg tv meth lab cooker enjoyerthere is no fucking c4 42" price drop going on right now, I actually fucking missed one before with additional codes that would have dropped the price down even further beforeFUCK maybe I should have consoomed >>103194594if you are gonna push the limits of HDMI2.1 you NEED an active optical cable to avoid any possible black screening and drop outs, allegedlyother than that, idk
>>103194594>Any recommended cable brands in general?Does the brand really matter as long as you get the specs that you need?I've never had a problem with cables doing any less than what they're supposed to
>>103194582I'd be surprised if they don't include dp 2.1
>>103194622display stream compression is perfectly fine
>>103191981Still thinking of side-grading to the RX 7800XT from the 3070. But my inner waitfag is telling me to hold out until Jan.
>>103194625>lossy compression is totally fineLMAO
>>103194636unless you NEED the upgrade, the waitfag is always right
>>103194610manufactured by LG, what are the practical examples compared to samsung qdoled with lg's rgb then?will it be as good as qdoled other than a better pixel layout, maybe?will the panels be matte,gloss? and so on>>103194625>black screening 15 seconds every alt tab is finea nvidia problem sure but they are the only ones making real gpus so>>103194642nobody cares about that
>>103194647I'm just tired of being vram cucked, but as I mostly still play map games and some BO6 I know I don't *need* it, but for when I play VR, I am getting brutalised.
>>103194541Don't just park it in the driveway bro! Always park in your garage.t. Samsung S95D, RTX 4090, SF90 Spider
>>103194647Counterpoint
>>103194636>Waiting until Trump/Musk tank the economyHope you're living elsewhere in the world...
>>103194669What part is this?
>>103194696SSD, 870 QVO 8TB
>>103194688>>>/rdt/If Senor Trump stamps my green card I'll be happy. Being a Europoor sucks.
cables managed 1/2
>>103191981Jesus christ that webm makes me irrationally angry.
cables managed 2/2
>>103193174Of course its still there, people are just complete idiots.
>>103194701sounds like the exception, not the rule
>>103194705> PSUImpressive! Very nice.> caseOh well...
>>103194658>nobody cares about thatthats what your mom said when she birthed you
been eyeing a new build to go from a 4790k+1080, whats your opinion on the 9700x, was eyeing the 9800x3d and the 7800x3d but theres a deal on with a 9700x that would save a shit load of money
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/intel-takes-down-amd-in-our-integrated-graphics-battle-royaleINTEL WONAYYMDEAD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT
>>103194721I like this case! It is huge though.
>>103192439The improvements to AVX-512 are huge and next gen is supposed to be a major upgrade to the interconnect.
>>103194701>QVOlollmao
if i don't play anything that graphic intensive should I sell my Gaming tower and just buy this instead? https://www.amazon.com/Gaming-Desktop-Computer-Computers-Adjustable/dp/B0C4PF6GTQ
>>103194835i literally only been playing WoW private servers because all the games that keep coming out lately are shit.
>>103194713Not too bad
>>103194827Good enough for tetriary storage too keep actively seeded / recently downloaded media before dumping it on the NAS.
>>103193877Buildzoid has the actual board (X870 Tomahawk) and he had no issues with properly setting the CPU in the socket because he's not a drooling retard.The two abortions were probably installing the CPU when the board was vertically mounted to the case.Don't be a drooling retard, it's so simple.The board is fine.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM_lHBOyjHw
>>103194529PC gamers aren't worth designing new chips for, 3D V-Cache feature was developed for Epyc data center CPUs.AMD just had enough of the CCX chiplets lying around to commercialize it as a Ryzen processor.Intel needs to focus on more lucrative sectors to save themselves like AMD's done in the past.Gamers will get whatever trickles down from that process.You don't understand the scale of this industry if you think Intel's down and out because they don't have competitive GAYMEN CPUs.
>>103194835Just buy a laptop. That's what most people are doing. Most people dont need anything more powerful than a Steam Deck.
>>103194944nah laptops are way too much money and i don't travel anywhere so its pointless, I just wanna have something small.
>>103194928Intel is worse in every Sector for years now. Gayming was the only thing they werent shit at.
>>103194775AMD is stagnating, selling the same shit over and over just like intel did 2012-2017.
I will likely never be buying an MSI motherboard again. I went through the reviews for their new X870 Tomahawk, and there's a shit load of reviews regarding their USB ports constantly restarting/being defective. The issue doesn't seem to be ubiquitous. but the fact that it's common enough to warrant at least 7 one star reviews says something about their QC. Never again. I have wasted at least 10 hours of my life troubleshooting.
>>103194529Good.Improving single core/memory controller >>> slapping L3 cache
>>103195002That's not what benchmarks say. Actually, large L3 cache is the biggest improvement to single core performance in many years.
>>103195037>cpu is faster when it uses his own memoryWoah
>>103191981is there a major difference in cooling when using the case fans that come with a case vs buying something like noctua case fans?and will the thermalright 120 se be enough for a 9800x3d and 5090? or should I go aio?
>Samsung 32" 4k QDOLED cheap on sale but matte>Alienware 32" 4k QDOLED cheap on sale but curved>MSI 32" 4k QDOLED glossy but shit OSD and not as cheap even on sale>Asus 32" 4k QDOLED glossy but the most expensive of all even on sale>Gigabyte 32" 4k QDOLED not even on sale at allit's over
>>103195089sales don't start until next week
>>103194993>just like intel did 2012-2017intel gave us 13-19% ipc gen over gen in those years? wowee
>>103195092they started here in eu on our fake BF
>>103194529Translation from kikespeak to english:L3 cache is expensive and gentiles don't deserve it unless they pay us $2000 or more
>>103195109Cache is the cheapest thing in lithography
>>103195089Get an LG TV. Likely mogs all of these.
>>103195084Very little difference in cooling, it's more about the noise and longevity.Thermalright 120/140mm dual tower CPU coolers are fine.Tower coolers with 120mm fans will give your board a bit more free space.
>>103195116It takes up costly die area unless you're stacking it, that's why 3D V-cache is a thing.
>>103195120>more expensive>I missed the sale that was on it before>only 144hz>not qdoledit's over againI wouldn't be opposed to it but pricing is not as good as back in the C2 days really it went upnow 240hz 4k monitors are cheaperthey need to dip 50% in price, maybe next gen when they cycle out of rotationthey used to be a deal because it was the only thing you could get too, now it's overa benefit is not running dsc with 144hz hdmi2.1 thou...... and built in speakersit's fucking over
>>103195116not when you need to place it with advanced packaging
is it me or is microcenter trying to get rid of their b650 boards?
Do I want my high refresh monitor running at its max refresh rate all the time or do I want to keep it lower when I don't need it?
>>103195166lol it really seems like they got a bunch of trash b650s and are trying hard to get rid of them without throwing them out directly
>>103194928That's true. It's funny to me how an uarch that's great for servers also happened to be excellent for gaming as Ryzen has shown
>>103195148>not qdoledhttps://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/longevity-investigations-update-3-monthI'm scared of QD-OLED panels because of how susceptible to burn in they are. I would get a nice long warranty on one.
>>103191981grim, how can manage that disaster?
>>103195169keep it maxed always
>>103195169you wanna run it at max obviously, the only benefit of not running it on max would be if it has dsc and you disable to to be able to run super resolution or avoid the alt+tab blackscreen dsc thingy on nvidia also some other high hz monitors like benq 540hz ones or something have coil whine when you run them at max hz but that's a flaw of the monitorso mostly no if it's below 4k 240hz, 1440p360, 1080p360 there is literally 0 reason to I can think ofbesides if it has strobing or something that does not work at the monitors max refresh rate alsobut generally no>>103195198at that point don't buy oledthose are tvs though not monitors alsoall depends on price
>>103195198damnit I've been looking forward to getting one of these. now i wonder if its even worth the bother.
>>103195169Just set it to 120 or 240 and enable free/gsync.
>>103195205ddr5 slots are physically much weaker than ddr4 as they are installed with the backdrilling method instead of throughhole on ddr4just dont be a retard. apply force facing the motherboard when installing the sticks and you will be fine
>pre-built>i5-9400f>2060This system is so painfully mediocre and I hate that it just manages to fill my needs.
do gpu prices usually drop on black friday on amazon?I cancelled my shit with long delivery time, prices went up 50$ already and I am starting to regret it now
>>103194171>6950xt>280mhz core oc>150 memory oc>1090mv now we gaming
worth spending $8 more for the SN5000 over the SN580? does the upgrade matter at all for gaming?
>>103195262>do gpu prices usually drop on black friday on amazon?not usually, and if they do you can bully support to price match
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tbvycxr8 the build
>>103194171>79xtx is almost the same speed lolnot even closetuned 7900xtx gets 36k in timespytuned 6950xt gets 23-24k at best on air.
>>103195328>µATXwhy?
>>103195366why not?mitx is too much for my little monkey brain and i wanna have something smaller than atx
>>103192138In my first build I damaged these metal dots on the back of the motherboard.
>>103195372I don't really see the point other than having not enough space/portability.
>>103195396it's mainly space related issues
Am I wrong for thinking that 80c idle temps for a 9800X3D with no fans running is too high or is this normal for AMD? I've just switched from a 4 year old intel CPU.Had to re-align the DH-15S after seating it over the thermal paste so that might be impacting it? And no I didn't put the CPU in the wrong way....
>>103195406Well in that case...
Day 589 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.
>>103195225>some other high hz monitors like benq 540hz ones or something have coil whine when you run them at max hz but that's a flaw of the monitorWas worried mostly about stuff like this possibly being made worse.
>>103195372I love tiny builds but they are considerably harder to build.Are you sure everything fits in there?If you don't have experience building PCs it is NOT recommended to start with a small build.
So what's the deal with the PS3 super slim? Is it literally just a die-shrunk version of the original console, identical performance and everything?
>>103195423thats not normalidle should be under 60c
>>10319542380c Idle means you did something very wrong
>>103192691He's obviously referring to the fact that there isn't enough room for the cable to bend gently when connecting a 90-deg plug to a drive in the bottom of the case.
>>103195234DDR5 has trough hole mounts on the ends and sometimes in the centerOP's case was just not pushing straight down with a very overly tall DIMM which increases the leverage of any horizontal force, breaking the clips and slotIDK why people like to push the whole DIMM down at once. I've always done each side once at a time at my job
>>103195545the last revision of the slim had the lowest die shrink. the super slim reuses that die but has shittier cooler/build quality overall to save sony some costs. always get the slim when possible.
>rx 580>$50why wouldnt i
anyone have success using excess m.2 ports with x4 pci adapters for network cards and the like?or are you better off just using a board with a real x4 pci slot?
>>103195423Make you installed your cooler correctly. Contact may be dubious.
Amerifats gets all their computer parts so cheap from NewEgg
>>103193617>doesn't know the difference between "were"(past tense of "are") and "where"(designation of location)>both picture examples are exactly the same for the cpu and the triangle, but now there's a badly drawn green square with a big chunk missing>"how cpu should look like">"If AMD and intel (notice how it's not capitalized) where"Is this some elaborate troll, or are you genuinely retarded?
Are older XEON, Threadripper and EPYC CPU builds worth it when considering price and budget? For example, dual socket mobos with XEON E5 CPUs double the core and thread counts.
>>103193911So don't buy a 144hz+ monitor and intentionally set it to 60Hz then. It's that simple.
>>103195746feels good man. also we get to pig out at thanksgiving soon.
>>103195774You also have access to millions of 300lbs + women and thin women are easy to fatten up. I'm jealous.
>>103194594If you're super concerned, check the brand name and product name on the VESA site. Ivanky is a pretty good one, and is properly VESA certified as legit.
>>103195722It worksI adapt 2 M.2 slots for U.2 SSDsIt gets janky tho for actual cards because you have to find ways to mount everything, but the concept works. M.2 slots are just PCIe in a less convenient form factor
>>1031953287700X is an in-betweeny product, 7600(X) makes more sense for gaming and the 7900X is practically at an all-time low for workstation purposes.
>>103195762If you're asking about it in this thread, you probably don't need that kind of heavily multithreaded CPU system.
>>103195867based
>>103195541He'll be fine with that case. I have a AP201 and it's pretty similar in size and form to the A3, and I fit a FTW 3080 in there with room to spare.
>>103195746We get them even cheaper from microcenter, newegg is expensive in comparison
Are wooting keyboards a reddit meme? Everything I come across tallks highly about them.
It's coming
Why do people like Asus? I feel all of their shit fails at a much higher rate than any other major brand.
>>103195234makes sense, i cant imagine that happening with the DDR4 mobos i have worke with
>>103195966Rub salt into the wounds, why don't you?
>>103191996If you have the horse power, use one of nVidia's DL-DSR resolutions too.
>>103195986boomer legacy. same reason people still buy a alienware.
>>103192061Still as big of a meme as SSDs.
>>103192439What is it with autism and core-to-core latency?
2x24gb 8000Mhz kits are now on the memory QVL with 9000 series for nova/taichi/lite mobos btw
>>103195986Normal consumers still fall for their marketing, especially with their stupid ass "Republic of Gamers" branding on their high end shit.
>>103193167Hop on one of your fancy Euro fast trains and pick one up.
Please tell me the x870e Nova will have a restock today. I missed yesterday's.
>>103196012Has nothing to do with boomers. They sell a lot of shit still, to all ages... am I just unlucky? I'm a small system builder who has made maybe ~400 systems over the last 15 or so years. I typically go with AS rock since their fail rate is absolutely tiny. A few times when I needed a specific form factor, I was forced to get Asus. Off the top of my head, Asus has had around a 75% fail rate for me within about 3 years. I really don't even see how they are in business.
>>103191981>>103191981is it worth goiing for a rm1000x shift over the rm1000e for a PSU? its like $30 more expensiveor is there a better PSU than both of those?
>>103193453Even with two sticks, you can still have four ranks.
>>103196024You have all this power but your latency is whack and you're cache missing everywhere. This is a DBZ problem as much as it is a CPU problem.
>>103193848MicroCenter has lots in stock in stores.
>>103195970I've heard they're only good for gaming (mainly twitch reaction shooters like CS), and don't justify the ~$200 price point when it comes to general use / typing. I ultimately decided to get a Keychron Q6 max, because I type a lot and don't really play competitive MP games.
>start of 2023, decide to try AMD with the 5600x and avoid the new 7000 series for stability's sake>get a good end-of-2021 motherboard with several bios updates already out>B-Die ram pricey at the time, so get secondhand Trident Z Neo from 2020>one (1) of the sticks is faulty, regardless of slot/config, get a refund, don't have to return the sticks, the other stick starts to spew errors after running in another older dell machine a few weeks in>nearly two years later on new sticks, start getting ram errors, find out G.Skill will warranty their sticks without proof-of-purchase>decide to throw the previously faulty sticks into the same machine to get memtest86(+) results for kicks before trying to RMA them>16 passes in, 75 cycles of different ram stressers and a few UE4 games later, 0 errors>only thing that changed were a couple more bios updates mentioning vulns/AGESAHUH??
>>103194239FOMO goy
Is there anything I should worry about when going for DDR5 4x32GB 5600Mhz?
>>103191981No fractal cases for recommendations? Kinda slop advice. They're absolutely some of the best cases on the market.>>103196066All you need is a PSU that can run your shit and has clean power output. Stick to Corsair, EVGA or Seasonic and you're golden.
>>103194555QD is better
>>103196100there are better cases at lower price points. plus cases are pretty much an aesthetic decision past a certain price point
>>103196112Fractal cases aren't even expensive. I'm talking about the options that are typically in the ~90-130 range. They're the best cases I've ever worked inside of for that price range.
>>103195198They are less prone, I think.
>>103195975You also buy 3 bags of coffee?
>>1031960995 is an odd number
>>103196134The most expensive case in the op is like $100. There's no point in spending more when a cheaper case will get you the same build experience as a Meshify C or what have you.
>>103196161I guess you just have to do a system build in one to see. I'm also surprised Lian Li has cheap options - I remember when they used to be the most expensive on the market.
>microcenter changed the ram in their bundles from cl32 to cl36Awful
>>103196134I've built in Phanteks, Lian-Li, Deepcool and Fractal and honestly they aren't really that different. Cases are pretty much solved
>>103196088This might be a retarded question but how can a keyboard be better for an FPS? The keys are easier to press?
Almost got tricked into buying Intel after ignorantly checking Userbenchmarks leaderboard for CPU's and seeing AMD all the way down in the number 15 spot. Luckily I youtubed best CPU's and they gave me the real answer.
>>103196202It has more to do with the mouse than a keyboard.
>>103196200>DeepcoolA case so good newegg doesn't even carry it, huh?
>>103193343why would anyone use Intel when they take up like 200 more watts? Just for the Indian Tech support?
>>103196202Wooting has some proprietary shit called Rapid trigger that makes the keyboard more responsive. The hall effect switches they use for their keys are also supposed to help apparently.
>>103196239>A case so good newegg doesn't even carry it, huh?imagine living in the USA and not being able to buy products lmao
>>103196242do you call tech support over CPUs?
>>103196239They got sanctioned for doing business with Russia, so you won't find a lot of DeepCool stuff at retailers anymore. Shame, since they had some bitchin' products.
>>103196239Banned from selling in the US (and maybe other parts of the world, idk) for violating sanctions on Russia.
>>103196265That's one of the benefits userbenchmarks cites as Intel being the superior CPU.
MX-4 toob ran outwat get?
>>103196260>>103196270>>103196273Actually it looks like neweggs search is just shit, which doesn't surprise me
>>103196239I see plenty on ebwy
>>103196291>>103196288You'll find some listings, since retailers are allowed to sell off whatever they already had, but eventually you won't be able to buy anything DeepCool new in box
>>103196287mayo
This was my pc running at 100% CPU usage while rendering a very large CAD assembly. How much will my temps drop when I install my Arctic LF III?
>>103195986My old Asus laptop served me well over 10 years without any issues, meanwhile my current Dell laptop has complete dogshit quality. Asus isn't probably the same anymore, I don't know how it does now, but remembering le good ol' times I do have some brand loyalty until I buy a bad product from them.
>>103196326Asus laptops are usually trash so you got lucky there. They're had the worst heat issues of any laptop I've had to deal with.
>>103196287MX-6
>>103196325Depends on what cooler you currently have installed.
>see rumor that 5090 will require 2 16pin connectors on your psu>google to see what psu's even have that>0 results???
>>103195867Fucking moron
>>103196342pic related
>>103195535almost no reason to run lower hz unless mobile device and power saving though>>103195970if you play le competitive games and want the best software and hall effect implementation noother keyboards have hall effects too but their software or implementation might have more jank and bugsso you pretty much pay for that, for nowuntil someone catches upso consoom and wait for the next shipment>>103196097I unironically am>>103196256many have that now but with caveats
>>103196389If it's a 280 LFIII, you'll probably get a reduction of about 7 degrees under load, but if it's a 360 it'll be around 10.
So the only benefit X870 boards have is that USB4 / PCIE 5 is mandated? I could buy a cheaper X670E board (with the same features) and have the exact same OC potential, I'd just miss out on some shit like more M.2 slots or whatever?
>>103196425
>>103196433650e Asrock boards have the gen5 PCIEor get the x870 Steel Legend which is $20 more than its 650e
Jofoos 9800X3D Factorio Mem Speeds Drama Updateog investigation anon with screencaps>>103178821Replies yesterday>>103186878>>103186911>>103186927my post yesterday>>103186930>how do we know the reports of the mem is reported correctly here?JOOFOOS VINDICATED? pic related
>>103196024It's 1% lows in fps.
Anyone like stealth/silent cases? No windows, no RGB, maybe a front door.
>>103196545what did you except from a guy that shills a "pc tuning course".Also>weee buy a 700$ cpu with some expensive shit attached to it, fuck around for a couple of days and you can get a slightly better performance in games like bordelands 2 and fucking rust.jesus christ the cope....
>>103196674>what did you except from a guy that shills a "pc tuning course".why do you have a problem with people selling stuff you are mad about? I literally don't get it, just don't buy it, like you won't buy consultations, lmao>Alsoyou missed the point of the video, also I am just pointing out my original idea like I said yesterday was right (if he is correct), regarding the misreported ram speeds, which also makes me the highest iq anon itt because I come to logical conclusions faster than anybody else, which means I have full authority hereanyway
>>103196009Maybe, DL-DSR 1.78x with TAA force disabled, a good 1080p solution but you compromise performance.Less computationally wasteful option which might get the same visuals is with 1080p quality DLSS using DLSSTweak and DLSS swap altering the mipmap bias towards what 1440p or 4k is using that it looks so good.Both options require manual tweaking so most gamers are filtered already.
>>103196711Because when people are trying to sell you something, they may say things that are motivated by their desire to make $, rather than the truth. Also, the fact he sells that course for like $400 or whatever, seems like a grift, when you can definitely learn that shit for free.The video has such a silly premise anyways, where a 99th percentile bin 14900k, that has been delidded and overclocked to its maximum potential, is put up against a stock 9800x3d. >My IQ is very high because *arbitrary reason because I have no real accomplishments in life* Oh, I see.
>>103196670last I heard they suck compared to high airflow cases
>>103196545Why do you care so much about FrameChasers?The only person who looks bad here is (you).
>>103196772>Because when people are trying to sell you somethinghe has affiliates for amd and intel both, selling both platforms, he says to buy x3d if you not gonna spend a month tuning intel>when you can definitely learn that shit for free.do I even have to say anything?>is put up against a stock 9800x3d.this is two times now you didn't watch the video>>103196811he's one of the few low view count autismmaxxed techtubers who plays video games
>>103196793You can get high airflow cases with solid panels, and turn off the rgb on the fans (fractal torrent for example).
>>103196824>he's one of the few low view count autismmaxxed techtubers who plays video gamesSo you're saying the vast majority of gamers & PC hardware tuners are just fine without him.It's still a (you) problem.
>>103196793Hmmm what if we put motorized louvers on the front and top, and a switch. When you switch into performance mode it opens the louvers for airflow and sets a high performance fan curve. In silent mode it closes up most of the airflow and sets a quiet fan curve.Even if it's a bit more manual operation like a slider or wheel to open vents and hit a switch to change the fan speed, it would be cool.
>>103196852its an enthusiast autism tuner channel so yes normans wont care about it or even mainstream techtuber channels yesit might give some more insights as to how different platforms and cpus works in gaymes and what notplus it riles up the amdrones discussing him here what is even your point thou i dont even get it
>>103196847And then you have to gimp airflow by locking the fans down at 20% speed to keep them reasonably quiet anyway, and also have all the unobstructed coil whine blasted into your ears.t. hates his torrent
>>103196545lol you are keeping trackjufes top guybut i still think he's fucking with you, just sayingDDR5-4800 isn't some arbitrary number, it's the base speed of his memory kithe already slipped up by trying to make it look like the number is being misread, but he forgot that all results on factoriobox are public and some people are capable of basic math: https://x.com/throwaway84694/status/18571828709654816954800*1.020=48964800*1.025=4920i guess if you really want to see how an X870E hero behaves with eCLK (because you know it has to be the EXACT SAME hardware or he won't consider it valid) you can send a superchat to buildzoid during his next stream
>>103196876most pcs dont have coil whinesometimes a really high fps in shitty games can cause it, but then you can go to nvidia control panel and set max system fps to 300
>>103194317I remember reading that OLED has issues at extremely low brightness because the pixel response at very low level varies wildly (as in, the same voltage can produce significantly different brightness outputs on different pixels). In addition to that I think there was a separate problem, namely that while OLED is extremely fast to respond when it's lit to any level, it's actually quite slow to wake up from being completely off. I know at least some of the earlier VR headsets which used OLED screens had to contend with these issues and in some cases you'd get dots or splotches on the image in very dark scenes due to the uneven brightness response or that manufacturers would just raise the black level somewhat in order to avoid the problematic very dark or completely off areas.I know my OLED phone at the very least has the slow response time on black problem, because it's actually visible when scrolling black elements on certain dark grey backgrounds or something.I imagine whatever is going on with the monitor is related, maybe the monitor is doing some image processing to raise the black level in motion in order to avoid black smearing but when the image is static this processing doesn't happen since a static image obviously cannot smear.
CPU cabinet
>>103196545>>103196711btw i figured out the 505 MHz thing, it only happens on linux, so it's not applicable to windows testsseems to be some sort of overflow thing where the DDR5 numbers are too big and wrap aroundsaw some glitched numbers on i9s too (like 2000 MHz on a DDR5 kit) but you're gonna have to find that yourself because i don't care enough to go look through my browsing historyi swear i don't care this much about e-celebs, i swear i'm not a dramafag, oh god please help
>>103196875He's not doing anything special relative to the actually well-known overclockers that contribute more to the community without running a grift.>what is even your point thou i dont even get itReminding you're obsessing over a fraud.
>>103196905no need to be why lil fella
>>103196889Anon I can hear my ssds buzz on different frequencies when writing and reading shit.Also>nvidia
Anyone know how I can tweak my GPU fan from Linux? I want it to stay on all the time, I don't like looking at 55C. I want it to be like 30C. It doesn't make any noticeable sound anyway.
>>103196920buy some massive water cooler
>>103196824I mostly watch pyurologie if I want to see actual gayman benchmarks. Are there any other good ones?
>>103196884I had to check the video again to see if there was any reply to uncover the real shilled truth since I remembered now>DDR5-4800 isn't some arbitrary number, it's the base speed of his memory kitwe know that >but i still think he's fucking with you, just saying>i guess if you really want to see how an X870E hero behaves with eCLKyes I have no idea I don't own any of these platforms, so is it right or not? strong claims need strong proofs>you can send a superchat to buildzoid during his next streamthat costs monne thouTO BE CONTINUED *
>>103196876I thought the 180mm fans made it quieter? I ended up getting the lancool 3 myself instead of the torrent despite the window. I needed space for HDs. I want to cover up the glass somehow since I hate that it's reflective.
>>103196934I just want the fans to not spin down. When it does, idle temps go from 30-35 to 55-60. Apparently this is by design and not a problem, I'm just anal about temperatures.
>>103196896apparently it doesn't behave like that in HDR or if you raise the gamma actually so idk>>103196906>i swear i don't care this much about e-celebs, i swear i'm not a dramafag, oh god please help*proceeds to screencap and post on twatter + yt comments calling him a fraud*I just shit post here, I don't even go to those extremes>>103196911>He's not doing anything special relative to the actually well-known overclockerswhich ones? if you post a bunch of extreme oc'ers that don't play games you are going full retard, warning you herethere are not that many>without running a grift.you are not allowed to earn money from people willing to pay. I literally don't care. you guys suck off 1M+ techtubers meanwhile and swallownigga please>>103196938I know that guymaybe hardware numb3rs, seems his video was from a year ago so this channel might be dead thofr33thy, not really intel vs amd brand wars here thoughderbauber maybeeven channels like tech yes city discuss platform/cpu jank more than othersif you don't grift and bait amd views you are not gonna pop offnobody is grifting harder than joofos on the intelvsnvidiavsamd brand wars
>>103196876Put your pc below the table like us adults do
>>103196920Is it nvidia? I don't know how to do it otherwise. You can run nvidia-settings and then in the control panel you can set the fan speed manually. It doesn't allow a curve to be set though. But you can control it via the command line so you could write a script to change it based on the temperature reading.
>>103196956how do you think he gets 62 UPS with a "max tune" OC>that costs monne thouguess you shouldn't have bought that OC bundle for $10000>>103197065>*proceeds to screencap and post on twatter + yt comments calling him a fraud*lolyeah that's pretty funny
>>103197065>which ones? if you post a bunch of extreme oc'ers that don't play games you are going full retard, warning you here>there are not that many>'The people that actually understand the ins-outs of the hardware don't matter'The good OCers don't need to show game benches because they all understand lower latencies and stable + faster frequency boosts overall system performance, whatever you're running. dipshit.The timings don't magically degrade if you're launching a game. If you're a good OCer, you're a good OCer.
>>103196920There has to be a program like speedfan for linux that let's you set a fan speed percentage.
should I wait til the 5090 specs are announced before buying a PSU? I cant decide if i just drop a fat chunk on an NZXT C1500 or not
>>103196975I have it on my desk within arms reach, in otherwise absolutely quiet room, and use only open-back headphones at very low volume, so any sound source is audible, but not any sound is annoying.The 180mm fans have high performance/noise for a single fan, but sound pressure from multiple sources adds up logarithmically thus an array of 140mm noctuas or similar top tier fans can move more air at lower total noise.
>>103197184yes
Are Beyerdynamic DT 900 Pro X good value? Not an audiophile but I want something in that $250-$350 range that's comfy to wear
>>103197268>990Rape tier treble
>>103197184eh if you find a good deal it might be worth getting a psu earlier, not to mention potential tariffsreally doubt the 5090 will use more than 600w
What are your hopes for battlemage?
>>103197144>how do you think he gets 62 UPS with a "max tune" OCas we discussed in the previous thread I posted 2x32 6000mhz results with lower than his too so idk what's going on in the run to run variance in that test>guess you shouldn't have bought that OC bundle for $10000I never did and I'm not even remotely close to canada or the us>>103197153so you proceed to dodge the question, talk about "oc'ers" in a generic term that don't play gaymes and play benchmarks all day, okay cool, good byewhat was even the point here, don't reply please
>>103197268I had the 990s and their ear pads melted into a sweaty gruel within like a year. The 598SE's I bought in 2016 are still going strong and way more comfortable. Still miss the bass though
>>103197352i was moreso meaning the fact that it might require 2 16 pin connectors, so wont that mean i have to get an expensive psu? i was planning on bare minimum 1000w either way
>>103197451>don't play gaymesGames are not special exceptions, they're just another program.If one knows how to stably tune a PC to maximize its (daily) performance, it's going to run games near its maximum potential.>play benchmarks all daySome of these people know how to pick the best parts and tune them well enough to get sponsored by hardware manufacturers as early product testers.FrameChaser is selling loose OC services by comparison, because he can't guarantee stability otherwise, and you're cheerleading him, sad + sad.
>>103197451>as we discussed in the previous thread I posted 2x32 6000mhz results with lower than hisyeah but i assume that's basic bitch EXPOi expect him to get the top spot with a "MAX TUNE" OC lmao>the run to run variance in that testthe test is very consistenti can get 50 UPS with a 5800X no problemyou can use the headless factorio for free on linux if you want to test it yourself
COME BACK IN STOCK YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>103197579Those are being scalped btw
>>103197579what features does it have that you want?
>>103197525you brought zero examples with you, you still have no point, I have no idea what you are even talking aboutbuildzoid is an extreme oc'er and doesn't play games>>103197575>yeah but i assume that's basic bitch EXPO>i expect him to get the top spot with a "MAX TUNE" OC lmaoreminder again that the premise here was that he was faking his results, as such the 4800 result would be worse, but I found a worse 6000 result, do you follow the logic here now that I explained it thoroughly? geez>the test is very consistenthere it is
>>103197579That board was in stock a couple hours ago, feels like they're only selling 20 at a time
Haven't played a video game since re8 and just bought a 1660 super for $90 to play the sh2 remake and maybe re4. I'll be fine at 1366x768 with a 4790 right? Was 90 an okay deal?
>>103197623Even some Redditors in /r/Overclocking share more insightful tuning tips than JOOFUS, not to mention the people on Overclock.net who are credible enough to receive test samples and post-dedicated CPU tuning guides.>doesn't play gamesDoesn't matter, literally. A good PC tuner is a good PC tuner.
My pc has been resetting itself once again. 7950x, 2x32g ram, 4080 superI bumped down my ram from the xmp-1 profile (6000 mhz) to jedec. No reboots so far. I guess I would be sad for "muh lost clockspeeds..." but it's better if my PC doesn't reboot randomly.Is there anything I could try to enable XMP if my system turns out to be stable without enabling it? Or should I just prepare to let go of those frequency increases?
>>103197613The high phase power design and the support for 8200mhz memory, and the M.2 slots not being subject to split fuckery.
>>103197665I am all for hearing it, we are not only talking le tooning tips either, we talking game engine jank, platform jank, cpu jank>Doesn't matter, literally. A good PC tuner is a good PC tuner.I am confident extreme tooners can tune a gaymin pc fine, the problem lies within that they don't play games which defaults to what I said above againagain you brought no examples just loose people from reddit and forumssure a guy who toons a pc to hit max superpi scores is totally the same as gaymer
>>103197647What the fuck, I didn't even get a notification, must have gone quick
>>103197696>we talking game engine jankSoftware issue. Irrelevant.>platform jank, cpu jankAll accounted by competent tuners.>extreme toonerThey run this thing called a "daily system".
>>103192354>>103194349What about the 850w Phanteks AMP GH?Is this PSU good for a 9950x & 5080 combo or should I look at different brands?
>>103196912kek
>>103196545the whole point of x3d chips is that you put them in and run defualt, at best you put Buildzoid's 6000 timings in bios with your finger while reading from phone and call it a day, they already come optimized from factory
>>103197690>and the M.2 slots not being subject to split fuckeryWhat do you mean by this?
You guys think the 12gb 4070 is good enough?
>>103196772>Because when people are trying to sell you something, they may say things that are motivated by their desire to make $, rather than the truth. fact but he's a midwit who thinks he's high IQ so don't bother
>>103197785Ask me in the new bread when you nighas make one
>>103196772I understand when people offer tutoring or courses for peanuts even if things are free, you pay for possibly a good teacher or very organized material but to pay 1000% markup for free info, lmao.It's immoral to even give a second of attention to this scammer.
>>103197785wait for 50 series
>>103197811There won't be much of a price drop though will there?
>>103193406The 4080 is the better buy because it will last longer with DLSS (better upscaling) and it will better retain its resell value on the used market.The XTX will drop in value massively a year from now.
>>103197771Using M.2 slots turning pcie x16 into x8 or disabling other ports, etc.
>>103197623>do you follow the logic here now that I explained it thoroughlynohis 14900K result makes sensesome guy running terrible auto timings doesn't factor into the equationwhy am i still arguing about this
>>103197803The cheerleader probably can't even write up a list of uniquely practical hardware tuning tips Jufus shared with his viewers.
>>103197835no gpu on the market saturates pcie x16 even at massively high ressounds like you just heard about it happening and panicked for something more expensive
>>103197679Try lowering your fabric clock frequencyOr undervolt the SoC tileWhat windows log says
>>103197835thats what i thought but wasnt sure - it seems most boards that support m.2 raid will have them on separate channels for a lower price than tree fiddy
>>103197690>Phase Power DesignCan someone explain this to me, and what exactly I would need to be able to OC a 9800x3d to a respectable clock? I'm not looking to do crazy cutting edge shit, it would just be nice to squeeze out a noticeable performance boost 5-6 years down the road when the chip starts to show its age. All the $200-250 x870e (ASROCK at least) mobos only have a 14+2+1 phase power design. Whereas the Nova has a 20+2+1 and the Taichi Lite / Taichi have 24+2+1. That seems like a big gap to me, but I'm clueless on this stuff and google searches aren't exactly giving me definitive answers.
migrate>>103197890>>103197890>>103197890
>>1031978334080 has so many driver issues avoid now
>>103197853This is for a 50 series card, so I can't know for sure until specs drop. But it's more about m.2 slots downgrading each other or closing off SATA / USB slots
>>103197711>Software issue.cpu/platform issue, relevant>All accounted by competent tuners.differences between intel and amd>They run this thing called a "daily system".buildzoid runs an old as fuck rig as his daily and plays 20 year old gamesplease stop man I can't keep dabbin on you>>103197766yes>>103197837we have already covered this itt, non relevant comment
>>103195328I have a very similar buiild but it's AM4 based with an amd gpu that I use for linux. I dual boot to windows every now and then when I want to play Minecraft. It was supposed to be mATX but when the motherboard got here, I realised I got the regular ATX instead of the mATX, so just went to amazon to get the fastest shipping case they had.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r3J3C8
>>103198210You said game engine jank, that's a software issue, you're hopeless.>differences between intel and amdAll competent OCers knows how to work around different PC platforms.>buildzoid runs an old as fuck rig as his daily and plays 20 year old gamesBuildzoid is one of many online contributors in the OC scene, you have him in your head rent-free.Share a list of unique contributions Jufus made to the OC community, you can't.
I bought 6000CL28 DDR5s. I'm thinking of returning them and getting 48/64 gb DDR5. Can anyone recommend a set? For a 9800X3D
>>103198395https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#Z=49152002,65536002&F=6000000,10000000&S=6000&sort=price&TT=300-360-360-680,300-360-360-760,300-360-360-770
>>103191981Mistakes can happen, don't beat yourself up over it
