How are they still in business? shotgun sales are in the shitter and even if they do sell someone a shotgun, how many shotguns do people buy in their life time?>but they sell .22sare you really going to buy a mossberg .22 over a 10/22?>the patriotare you going to buy a mossberg patriot over a ruger or savage at basically the same price point?>handgunsthey sell handguns? have you ever seen someone with a mossberg handgun?Henry's another one. Are there really that many people buying lever actions and single shot break actions? It's even worse than car companies because guns are cheaper than cars and .22s and hunting guns last basically forever
>>64753037>sane yearso you think more revolvers are made than semi auto hand guns and the most popular type of gun is "misc"? holy shit you are retarded.
>>64753073Please tell me what exactly you think these numbers on the side mean, I could use a good laugh.
>>64753162you do realize, retardo, that those numbers are there to count cumulative guns made. you're a literal retard if you think they are making more revolvers than semi auto handguns
>>64752355Exactly, they're legal in all states , and even retarded countries like canada. Although I think other common wealth countries have restrictions on pump actions.
>>64752291>How are they still in business? Because they make extremely rugged& reliable shotguns (most important shotgun traits) at a fantastic price point>how many shotguns do people buy in their life time?I've got 4, could definitely use a couple more. My old man has 3. All my buddies have more than one
What gun would you use to take down a serial killer elephant?
>>64753287they truly are superior to us. imagine what the world would be if they were the dominant species. no jeets, no indians, no niggers...all dutifully stampeded.
>>64753287The elephant has done nothing wrong.
>>64753287An elephant gun, of course.
>>64753287lets change this threadwhat loadouts would you give to african/jeet cullers to protect the lands of elephants?
>2,800 Indians have been killed by elephants in the last five yearsShitposts aside, holy fuck
The T-34 is the best tank of World War II. What about airplanes? According to /k/
>>64750106From what I've read, Panthers were fairly reliable, the problem was maintenance parts were unavailable.
>>64741666That is not a comparison, retard.
>>64750106Ergonomics and crew comfort features are fairly important too. Soviets were notoriously shithouse at it across most of their equipment into the 70's.If your fighting compartment is working against the crew then they're going to have a much harder time getting the most out of whatever theoretical performance you've given them.
>>64753160Panthers were reliable till they broke down.
>>64739437It is a beautiful machine.
AK General /akg/New Year, Same Shit Edition>Thread #2085Old thread here >>64623820
>>64750825Am i dreaming or the idea of a rebuttal for this nigger was listing (nobody asked and nobody is reading this shit btw) guns he doesn't own and that he shot once in his lifetime and will never shoot again at a range as RENTALS. That's the most pathetic shit i've ever been replied to in this board and i've seen quite the fair share of it.This nigger literally tried to flex what the average chinese or vietnamese tourist do after losing a round of poker and hitting Battlefield Vegas while filming himself magdumping and blasting the everloving shit out of the walls. In any case there's a difference between you and me : i own full auto rifles.I don't rent them. I own them. Therefore i take care of them. Because i'm not a range monkey going "rattatatattatat" with guns that don't belong to me (nobody cares about other people shit to begin with). And since you apparently have the culture and education of the average american (read : stupid as fuck and mixed with nigger blood) you don't realize that guns rights in Switzerland allow the common man (altough with some requirements but far less retarded than what the US dictates, like FFL or being in the correct state to begin with) to own full auto rifles, grenade launchers, whatever. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
you guys did a good job of riling him up but it's a lot easier and faster to just post a rifle outside and wait for him to follow suit (he won't)
>>64752670Clearance concerns mainly for foldy stock. It’s in the cards but lower on list. >>64752674Will check out. I keep seeing info and pics of the fab one being used. It’s tempting despite me probably knowing any better
>>64753533funny dubs and funni post
>>64753539>Clearance concerns mainly for foldy stockI kinda thought you might say that. They make an UF friendly one too.
Why wouldn't something like pic related work fine as a "do everything" gun for a person living in the densely forested hills of Appalachia, where the power and ballistic advantage of a rifle simply isn't necessary?>plinking will be good fun with the naturally subsonic .45>definitely suitable for home defense>easy enough to fit in a backpack, or take the can off and carry it on your person>get some .45 Super for killing deer or hogs, or mess around with round ball loadings for taking small game or for pest controlYes, it's true that rifles can be had for dirt cheap these days. And it's also true that there is no real reason to limit yourself to just one gun, especially a handgun. But in an autistic min-max fantasy where you literally can only own one gun and it has to be able to be carried 24/7/365, does a suppressed .45 automatic make sense? The only real downside I see here is that this is not the best option for summertime concealed carry in hot climates.
>>64747440This. Cans are not half as useful or cool as people make them out to be. They don't really add much to shooting after the hype wears off somewhere between a few range trips to a year. Even with subs you're loud enough anyone immediately nearby is going to identify a gunshot, or at least investigate, and any range or facility is still going to require you wear earpro, poa/poi shift on and off, etc.If your typical range trip is holster work, the can becomes a novelty almost immediately.
>>64731902If you were really wanting a general purpose pistol "scout rifle" then one of those in a brace would be what you want.
>>64752331LMAO I assure you copper solids, aluminum core, or steel core 5.7 are out penetrating 99% of the rounds people carry in 9mm.>>64752353>Doubt. It’s a higher pressure bottleneck round.Maybe if you're retarded and don't know what subsonic ammunition is. Suppression is a function of bore diameter and gas. 5.7 is absolutely quieter than any 9mm pistol out there.
>>64753456>all those fancy 5.7 loadsUnless all the bullet’s mass is in a thin tungsten penetrator with the jacket shearing off upon penetration, 9mm is getting mogged by really anything bottlenecked. 5.7 has ~2.5x as much sectional energy.
>>64753456>LMAO I assure you copper solids, aluminum core, or steel core 5.7 are out penetrating 99% of the rounds people carry in 9mm.My guy, if you have to compare special 5.7 bullets to regular 9mm bullets, then it doesnt really prove anything. There is armor piercing 9mm ammo in the wild too, but nobody cares because they aren't what people have access to. You aren't handloading steel core 5.7 ammo and I am not loading 7n31 so throw both out the window and compare FMJ to FMJ and hollow point to hollow point. 9mm winds both contests and you only have 3 fewer rounds in the mags. It's cool if you like 5.7, but don't cope about it not being as effective as you think it is. Accept it and look at the 5.7's real benefits over 9mm. Reduced recoil, higher velocity, better BC, and a much flatter trajectory.Also, who gives a shit about subsonic 5.7 ammo you are basically just shooting 22lr at that point? Does it even cycle the action? 5.7 is not something you should bother suppressing as it is supersonic in any load that is worth using and if you are shooting subs (assuming that they cycle the action) why use 5.7 instead of 22lr? That's stupid.
I gave myself tinnitus dry firing an airgun indoorsFucking hate this piece of shit
>>64753163bruv why tf are you listening to asmr at the range
>>64753149you generally want to double up on earpro if possible, 1 to avoid having no earpro if something causes the seal of the earpro to fail (if you're wearing safety glasses, they interfere with the seal, stock of the gun could press into your earpro, etc.) 2 because the NRR of only 1 layer of earpro isn't enough in many cases, especially if you're at an indoor range.
>>64753362What man doesn't want to take a cute woman out on his day off?
>>64753339deflagration and detonation are not the samedetonation creates a shockwave which is what will rape your hearingdieseling doesn't cause a visible fireball, just smokeI'm telling you in the real world with the springer I have it is not nearly that loud and it has never come close to even making my ears uncomfortable until it randomly blew the fuck up with the dry fire
>>64753552I'm too lazy to do the back of the napkin calcs myself, but thankfully someone did them for me>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/274638905_Internal_Ballistics_of_Spring_Piston_Airgunswith those pressure and temperatures, you're absolutely on the detonation side of the curve
So just in case you've ever wondered how dragonfire holds up in the concrete jungle. Some dude unloaded 6-8 shells at close range into a police vehicle. Cop is ok. Shooter, not so much. https://x.com/policelawnews/status/2011050270739087492
>>64753480I assume you're talking about dragon's breath and just mixed up the name. Anyways, yeah unsurprising given it's really just shards of magnesium. It's a light weight shot, meant more for spectacle than practical use.
>>64753480If the shooter killed himself, was it the cops that said that the incendiary rounds were “designed to inflict maximum damage” or are they parroting the marketing for them? Because they clearly did less damage than regular slugs.
>>64753501That I did. Still it is interesting that it still made almost perfectly spherical entry into the side of the car. The two gashes make a bit more sense if the heat was enough to melt the paneling but those holes don't seem to be created by heat. Just velocity and mass.
>>64753512>those holes don't seem to be created by heatyes because they don't burn through steel anon, there's not enough thermal mass there, and steel is a good conductor, it's quite inefficient to try to melt your way through. it's literally just velocity and mass>>64753507anon what do you think? tbf it would be very unpleasant to be shot by this, imagine having a burning shard of magnesium in your gut, definitely quite lethal from an anti-personnel perspective, but it's not that practical.
>>64753524Still I'd expect to see no hole or a hell of a lot more. Upon review I think he might have sprung for the buckshot version. Looks like about 6 shells were fired. One must have been the 00 buckshot version. They have about 6 balls and still produce a flame. Maybe he was hoping the buck would penetrate and the rest were fire for effect or possible to ignite the vehicle.
I was reading about this guy and he had over 350+ kills. Why does this make me jealous?
>>64752487Stalin was the one who packed the nunbers with some mini purges and turned them into additional soviet losses in the end, amout ten million worth from eastern Europe and Russia while he did murder then murdered the people who did the deeds for him..Everything about the Russian participation in WW2 is glazed over by the fact that Stalin and the communist party were compulsive liars as much as Gobbels was.
>>64752600The problem with totalitarian systems of government is that you either lie to get ahead (doing more and more damage to the state and its institutions with every lie you tell), or you don't go anywhere, if you're lucky. If you're unlucky you end up as this months excuse and get Gulag'd/sent to the Eastern front. Mannerheim was lying. Mannerheim knew he was lying. Mannerheim also knew that he either lied or got fucked over.
>>64751605reminder that Germany was preparing their "pioneering" strategies and technology on soviet turf in direct cooperation with communists.
>>64751635>united West was ready to stand against communism 20 years sooner and without the deaths of a generation of young men and waste of untold richesThey had a chance in 1920, and didn't give a fuck
>>64751009It was a total war for Germany they had to put all in and it reflected on the quality of their officer corps.
I can’t believe it took a 30 minute video to say what we already knew, which is that 10mm Auto is the superior automatic handgun cartridge, and that only after having to water it and then .40 S&W down for the women, manlets, and fags in the FBI did they just settle on 9mm because there was no difference at that point. Amazing.>But muh fire rate!Literally doesn’t matter in a combat scenario, doubly so if your shots don’t actually land. Paul Harrell already established this in his 1986 Miami Dade shootout analysis. Lift weights and carry 10mm, anons.https://youtu.be/ZybcWWu4ddk?si=KptwdszD7hCNFTQE
why are 10mm advocates always so emotional
>>64750085Concealment is not cover, you stupid fucking bitch.
>>64743958>Our strongest 9mm preformed "just as good" as our weakest .40 S&W.LMAO..40 S&W chads stay winning.
>>64749324>>64750097>>64750203As someone who’s been in a near death accident I can tell you it’s not that simple, they will send officers if it’s a serious injury, especially involving firearms. Hell mine wasnt even a firearms related injury, it was a workplace accident, and they still sent officers. Granted they didn’t question anybody because no crimes were committed but if someone gets shot at a residence I guarantee they’re going to question or detain somebody. >But I can just ask for EMT/FirefightersThe dispatcher is going to quiz you on the nature of the injury, now you’re in a pickle because they will definitely send officers to the scene if you explain that you’ve shot someone in self-defense. (EMTs don’t like going into situations blind, especially if there is a firearm wielding individual present.) I mean sure you could lie but now you’re in a pickle where you’ve lied to law-enforcement and that’s another whole heap of shit you don’t wanna get into.
>>64748851He's not wrong tho. Watching the full 30 minute video just to say you haven't learned anything is a sign of retardation, doubley so when you pull the "I was only pretending to be retarded" card. We can add another layer for that reveal to just be about e-drama lol
Canadian firearms General>Newfag? Read this:https://pastebin.com/Ndb2jSAuhttps://howtogetagun.ca/>Want to hunt? CFG Hunting license info:https://pastebin.com/nC8RpYb3>Want to spend your shekels?https://almostprohibited.ca/>Recommended /cangen/ vendors list (patched 04.25.2024):https://pastebin.com/SwhJDpkc>Want to help firearm rights?https://firearmrights.caComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>64752677PP down but not out, nigga has the sickest burns of any Canadian MP.Shame the elections are rigged and it's not possible for him to be PM.
>>64752863idk what you're talking about there's no boog or happening, nothing ever happens.
>>64752391This. Chassis isn't bubba, bubba would JB weld a Tru Glo red dot right onto the fucking receiver, grind down the charging handle to a spike, and sharpen the spike bayonet so that every time he pulls it out of his safe it slices up his fingers.
I just fired 762x39 for the first time and these things are fucking tiny seeing them in person for the first time they always seemed bigger in pictures. I can't even imagine how tiny something like 556 is in person
>>64753520They are similar, in size, though 5.56 projectile is notably much smaller.
https://attackcopter.com/2026/01/13/versatile-aro-evo-dual-red-dot-green-ir-laser-in-one/
>>64752895>Trying to step into higher feature optics is not what holosun was originally meant to accomplish.Holosun sells more optics than Aimpoint, Trijicon, and Eotech on a yearly basis now after cornering the poorfag commercial and military markets. Surprisingly, a lot of people even at the govt. level feel spending ~$500-1000+ per unit for an unmagnified dot is a rip off. It's not surprising to see them chase the high end market now, and honestly between this and the NV/IR sight they released, they're at least trying cooler ideas than any of the aforementioned companies (here's your 2nd/3rd gen $3000+ LPVO or $1500+ dot/3x, bro).Outside of the retard rare/expensive L3Harris sights, the legacy companies like aimpoint, triji, eo, etc. haven't made a single interesting or cool thing for a decade or more now.
>>64753300Their NV / thermal sights are shit and get mogged by other Chinese brands. They're IMO getting too snobby as a result of their success and are turning into what the mainstream optic companies became.Take away their full-time internet defense squad (Holosun_Josh and co) plus their influencers and they'd rapidly shrink in influence. A lot of people prop their fun decisions on what other people say. A lot of it is charades and shenanigans. Smoke and mirrors.
>>64752876It ain't surprising, the gun industry in general operates like fashion but for men.
>>64753328I don't entirely disagree.I'm not trying to suck off Holosun as much as I am trying to shame the legacy companies for not innovating anymore. Holosun is not a particularly high quality product, but then again red dots aren't sophisticated tech anymore, either.If the Chinks can come up with a relatively inexpensive NV/IR optic, even if it's just a shitty novelty, why can't AP or EO do something cool? Instead we get another $800 magnifier or vudu scope nobody will buy.
Obviously it will be far worse than a dedicated option, but this could suit some people. I'm sure alot of poorfags trying to get into night vision would buy it before eventually buying something better and more focused. Its fucking hilarious how we circle back around though. I remember the shitty 2000s guns and and all the ebay scopes with lasers and stuff attached to them like this.
>the FBI didnt just switch to 9mm because its cheaper and let more people(women) qualify! The bullets are just better than .40 or .45!>sure we compared it to watered down .40 and .45 with bad bullet design that we used because it let women and manlets qualify...but but its better it is!Idk why the FBI is the basis for peoples choice in personal defensive weapons when their criteria is letting female detectives not limp wrist jam glawks in the incredibly rare shootouts they have, but be my guest i suppose
>>64748201>manlets qualifythe average height of a SEAL is like 5'9" you fucking bozo
>>64752141so what
>>64752141Are you implying 5'9" isn't a manlet?
>>64748201I'll never cease to be amused about fuddyfive autismo's endless seethe over 9mm superiority and dominance. It's simply the best general handgun cartridge ever made. Nothing wrong with min/maxing for specific things you care about or your specific niche needs, nor with "I just like the feel of that other one more", but 9mm is the standard for good reason. The free market has spoken.
yes, but have you considered the wound vectors ?
can you even call yourself a /k/ommando?
>>64745528depends on what gun. my glock ETS mag works fine, the ones I got for my P2000 literally disassembled the gun, I had to cut the bolt catch tab on the follower off for them to not do that
>>64745242>>64746691I think guns feel uncomfortable without a good cheek weld
>>64749416Clear and Present Danger.
>>64753453That's right.Chavez had a SD, I think.
>>64747491RIP Bill
The ziggers have come up with another brilliant plan to counter drones, walking tents! Guessing mostly for night ops to reduce thermal signature? Because these are definitely not good for day time at least. Though it'd be hilarious to see them try assaulting with these fucking things on. What will the ziggers dream up next to deal with thermal cams?with audio: https://xcancel.com/Archer83Able/status/2010753972177711261
>>64753198I do. I remember loads of weird games from that era that nobody does. Never seen /k/ talk about Siphon Filter.
>>64753275SF was based, only game I can remember where you get a taser as a weapon and if you keep the charge going on a guy it sets them on fire and kills them.
>>64752413There's a ton of resources out there. Just wait until you hear about how doctrinal differences inform different kit between NATO-aligned and Warsaw Pact based forces even today.While both sides have long range stationary installations and manpads that can be carried in the back of a truck, Soviet and now Russian forces have a lot more AA assets designed to provide an 'organic' capability to a unit. The iconic example of this is a Tunguska or Shilka, where a tank chassis has the turret replaced with AAA guns, a fire control radar and sometimes some short range IR missiles. Western forces largely gave up on those because past a point, the expectation became that if you're the US, Australia, Germany, whoever else, you own the sky before putting any of your people somewhere. It's the job of your air power to create a permissive environment to operate in.Soviet style planning instead acknowledged that they were unlikely to be able to seriously contest air supremacy in the long game and tried to make assets that were instead survivable when operating below contested airspace. Hence a vehicle like a Tunguska intended to be able to be integrated into a tank or mechanised column to provide some measure of air defence deterrent baked-in.The western answer is that either the USAF is already interdicting 30 miles behind the enemy or the nearest CSG is flying CAP with a hundred hornets and a hundred more hornets to keep you safe.Even before you get to how tools are actually employed, both your own doctrine and how that's formed and altered in response to the enemy informs what's designed and purchased.
>>64749281>And these will change thatTo be fair, so did the FPV-drone
>>64753294And you could shoot with that taser from a fucked up range due to automatic targeting
>3D Printed GunsWhat are the best filaments you guys are using for frames and gun parts? Is it still PLA + or are the different carbon/glass infused filaments better?What are you guys printing?
>>64744403>open betaPardon me good sir, but I am retarded and don't know where to find the open beta. Perchance could you direct me?
Whats the most cyberpunk project I can print? I like the OP and have the files for the 3dp90 and all its weird variations but am put off by the extra lop. Using AR FCG is great but it ruins the looks of alot of 3dprinted guns.
>>64753464You need to go to the ryno room in deterrence dispensed's rocket chat and ask for the files, there are some instructions here.https://ctrlpew.com/the-ryno/
>>64753102Yet another troon joined the 41%. Reading its Twitter, I'm kinda glad it did. That ex-dude was batshit unhinged.
>>64753102>>64753495Word? Link to account? I always saw this gun floating around and never knew who made it.
