Navy Secretary John Phelan just recently revealed the most recent proposal to replace the Constellation class frigates. It's basically a modified version of the Coast Guard's Legend class cutter carrying 16 VLS cells.https://breakingdefense.com/2025/12/navy-wants-new-frigate-in-2028-says-services-acquisition-head/https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5OJZ8eB_mPA&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD
>>64636226>Since all the naval grognards are ITT, I want to ask them: why the obsession with VLS systems? I understand they're convenient; you can load them it anything, but they take up an incredible amount of space. What's wrong with dedicated box launchers? Hell, what's wrong with taking 4 VLS cells and putting THEM into a mission-configurable box launcher? Wouldn't that let you pack more firepower on a smaller hull?Actually VLS kinda save space. They're pretty efficient when it comes to missile packing. Before you had VLS, you had individual articulating arm launchers and similar nonsense with magazines.The reason larger ships and especially AEGIS use VLS is due to saturation attacks being the anti-ship meta since the 60's-70's so you need a launch system that can shit out all it's missiles all at once.The best way to do that is to do away with an arm launcher that can orient a missile, and just dump the missile straight into the air, and have the missile do a course correction right at the start.This means all missiles are now engineered for vertical launch, most have some sort of booster to shove them to altitude at the start, so if you now introduce a different launcher on your smaller ships, you would need new specialised missile variants.There is frankly not really a reason to not use VLS on smaller ships.
>>64636285If the navy can lower it's requirements and that was the issue with the Connie's then use the Connie's. Going with the cutter would be a repeat of the Connie's, except you've got a worse base. What the navy needs is an entirely new ship.>hat's basically what the LCS was and somehow it's been their most successful ship since the 90s.God that's depressing.
>>64636276The Iowas still had their 16" guns. They fitted the VLS cells instead of useless anti-air and small caliber secondary mounts.
>>64636256>The VLS number is the first port of call for the casual because>>bigger number betterBro with 16 VLS cells, you're gonna quad-pack 8 with ESSM which is decent, which leaves 8 VLS cells for serious anti-air missiles like SM's. That means you can engage 4 incoming high performance anti-ship missiles with 2 SM's each, and then you're empty.It means that a single flight of heavy fighters with anti-ship missiles can saturate your high performance SAMs.Not good.
>>64636226>what's wrong with taking 4 VLS cells and putting THEM into a mission-configurable box launcher?A few ships are built to carry these.
This is a literal combat ship.
>>64636164>no link
>As designed, the LCS lacks the redundancy and the vertical and longitudinal separation of vital equipment found in other combatants. Such features are required to reduce the likelihood that a single hit will result in loss of propulsion, combat capability, and the ability to control damage and restore system operation.>LCS does not have the survivability features commensurate with those inherent in the USS Oliver Hazard Perry‑class Guided Missile Frigate (FFG 7) it is intended to replace. The FFG 7 design proved to retain critical mission capability and continue fighting after receiving a significant hit.
>>64636199decade old
Ah, I forgot they completely changed the hull and did a total redesign. Give it up, they are total shit. They are $360m patrol vessels.
>>64636199says the guy who tried to get the f35 shutdowngilmore can eat dick
in the new upcoming Resident Evil game, Leon seems to carry a hatchet instead of his usual knife, which seems like an obvious choice, more range, more power behind the strikes, you just lose a bit of precision.
If we assume zombies act like methheads with 0 pain response, your best bet would be to keep them at bay or chop off limbs, so>with friendssome kind of spear or polearm>alonefalchion, messer, or da dao
>>64633940>Which melee weapon would you carry to use against zombies?smallsword or pike
>>64636190>pikehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y6agtVxWi8
>>64634762>you can't spin it above your head like a helicopter to kill all zombies around you.Duh, that spin is for escaping via flight.
ZweihanderI would just wrap my extremities in heavy cloth and wade into a horde of them, slashing and singing until they're all dead.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa-fGA1I52A
Thinking about a 1911 for my first gun. Is Rock Island a good choice (budget is my chief concern)? Also should I go with 45 or 9mm?
>>64633327I've shot maybe 500 .40S&W out of my 10 - and the extractor didn't break even though I got a spare. but you are correct I shouldn't have told a newby that. Maybe. I defo should have stressed it's a nigger rig. Been 35 years but I knew a guy who had shot 9mm exclusively out of his .38 Super 1911 "because it kicked less" - and he had put shit tons of 9m FMJs through it. "My other gun shoots .22 Shorts or Long Rifles".
>>64632221RIA or Tisas will be fine if you want a bare bones 1911A1 clone.The .45 ACP versions will be slightly easier to get parts and mags for, but the 9X19 versions do shoot very nicely.
Why is the thread getting derailed? I like both 1911s and Berettas, don’t get the contention
>>64632281We need to mass on Richmond in Virginia again like in 2020 on MLK day
>>64635871It's because of that black-gloved FAGGOT who shits up every thread related to handguns because he's a no-life FAGGOT (see above) who draws sustenance from negative attention which you FAGGOTS cannot avoid
>>64631991I think everyone in this thread might be actually retarded. It's a lower receiver that you can slap on whatever JAKL upper you want. So you can have any barrel length and muzzle device you want (unless you SBR it of course).
>>64633512In OP's pic, yes. For sale a PSA, no. Look closer at >>64628323
>>64634458But the longest barrel that they offer a JAKL in is 16 inches. I'm interested at 18 or 20 inches, not a 14.5 P&W or 16 inch.
>>64634260It's so you can have a suppressed SBR that's no longer than an unsuppressed non-bullpup SBR.
>>64636302Okay that does sound pretty epic
Fun fact. The reason pre-1964 winchesters are a thing is because>Winchester went bankrupt in 1931>Olin bought Winchester in 1935>Olin's son (who was probably the one directly responsible for buying Winchester) was the CEO/Head of the board for Winchester from 1935 until he retired in 1963.
>>64632089>Mercedes>NiceKys shitskin
>>64627543What shade of red is that on OP's pic? I love that stock.
>>64627543Why would I want that
>>64628507>Also there were millions of surplus mausers to sporterize if you wanted controlled feed for some reason.Also, Belgian, Czech and Yugo imports.
>>64632044thats why i'm getting a cimarron branded uberti 1894, fuck the lever action jew
Previous thread >>64615697>image limit reachedhttps://github.com/rcc11/4chan-sounds-player>Simulate schizophrenic auditory hallucinations with the sound player plugin!
>>64636270>that skirtunf
>>64636287Mini Skirts for all women.
>>64636273I find it kinda funny that both Romans and Turks have foundation myths of their founders being raised by wolves, and then the Ottomans even went on to cosplay as Romans for a few centuries before giving that up.Although unlike the Romans, the Turks don't just have their legendary founder be raised by a wolf. He goes on to marry his wolfmom and their children become the Turks.
>>64636250UUUOOOHHH
The shills say you'll definitely buy one.
>>64634766>Palm swellSupposedly it is barely noticeable.>gas pedal increases the frame widthGen 6 is compatible with Gen 5 holsters so I don't think this is true. I'm guessing it's cut into the frame instead? >The aggressive texture tears up your shirtDoes this happen to you? I use sandpaper talon grips on my g45. It doesn't tear me up carrying appendix. I wear basic bitch cotton undershirts most days. >The trigger is more personal preference imo.That's true but I observe that normies shoot low left with my flat apex shoe glocks as opposed to the curved OEM. I think flat shoes are easier for most people to pull straight back.
>>64635687>SupposedlyYeah...They also said gen 5 would be compatible with gen 4 holsters, they are not.I don't give a shit about grip texture because I carry how you're actually supposed to carry, OWB on the hip. If you need to conceal, carry a pocket gun. Waistband guns are never really concealable so just make a fashion statement of being armed. No one ever said anything in the 8+ years I carried a compact OWB at 3 oclock, before I wised up and became a pocketchad. Now only carry on the hip in winter.Meme triggers stick out further and just give me a bad feeling like if I have to move from frame to trigger quickly, I'm gonna miss the mark. All my triggers are curved and I'm supposed to get a gun that has a flat trigger that sticks out further than the rest? Begging for an error, and for no real benefit. That's why they're a meme. That's not really gonna affect the smoothness of your press or the accuracy of your shooting. Glock has gone full meme, it really was Gaston's stubbornness keeping them from going to absolute shit.
>>64629913Idk. Looks uncomfortable to carry, and the improvements seem margianal. Im probably just gonna get a gen 5 g47 and skip this one.
>>64635992>I don't give a shit about grip texture because I carry how you're actually supposed to carry, OWB on the hip.>Meme triggers stick out further and just give me a bad feeling like if I have to move from frame to trigger quickly, I'm gonna miss the marklol nvm boomer
>>64634862No, I won't. Never bought glock and probably never will since the other strikerslop tends to out pizza the hut
What do we think of this image /k/
>>64635481Nigger, you can't even spell "cognizance" or type a coherent sentence in English.
>>64635607>I'm going to make this painful.You're right, that was one of the most painfully cringeworthy posts I've seen on this site.Bravo, anon. Bravo.
>>64636145>a self built ar10>bro I'm a gunsmith>a .338 24 inchThe fuck is this even supposed to mean? .338 what, you pea brained niggerfaggot? .338 Federal? .338 Lapua? .338 Norma? .338 ARC?24-inch what?You don't own guns, fag.
Meet me on counter strike source zombie server noggers. You are all fucking nogger noobs.
>>64636304>someone so stupid they don't even know cognisance is the original correct spellingLol. Lmao.It's a french based word you absolite dumbass.
post groupshere are my two best papers50m with 22LR, single shot bolt action rifle, this is between 0.85 and 0.7 MOApost ammo type, distance, and weapon used
>>64636301\o/
Just under MOA @ 100y with an M16A1 clone and a Colt 4x optic from the 60s. Ammo was PMC Bronze. All things considered I'm quite happy with it.
>>64636317Rifle setup
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>>64636345wtfwhy is there tiny ants crawling on the shaft ?
It's been 2 months...https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/hidden-hangars-navys-fa-xx-could-decide-china-fight-trump-moves-now
>>64636046NG has 2 B-21s flying with 6 more in late production ahead of schedule and under budget. The F-47 is shaping up to be the same since the 2019 X-Plane flight. Cope and seethe.
>>64636068>there is debate around increasing the B-21 buy from ~100 airframes to 150-200They should do that and cancel the F-47.
>>64636149That would be dumb. While there’s talk of pushing the B-21 into ISR and missileer roles the latter as far as we know is only in the early concept stage. On top of that, even with the extra $4.5 billion to speed up B-21 production I haven’t heard a production number floated higher than 20/year, though that is a significant increase over the ~7/year that it’s estimated they can do currently. Finally, 50-100 extra subsonic bombers can’t generate a high enough sortie rate to fill the gap made by 185+ supersonic fighters
>>64636167They're going to be flying along subsonic UCAVs anyway, the speed doesn't matter. The F-47's range and payload requirements make it nearly a bomber already, It's going to be more like a stealth F-111 than a stealth F-15C.
>>64636235We don’t know what the exact CCA CONOPS look like currently. It’s very possible they end up forming more of a picket line while the F-47 runs around at high speed playing fire brigade wherever there’s fighting on the front. Even if that isn’t the case if they base F-47 at Guam high speed is very useful just to cut down transit time and increase sortie generation. We have no good public information on payload, but if the variable cycle engines deliver their claimed efficiency increase and the 1000nmi combat radius is taken as closer to the upper bound it won’t need to be a 100k MTOW monster like the F-111. If, and admittedly it’s a big if, Boeing is bidding a similar design for both NGAD and F-47 then the MTOW is probably in the 80k range similar to the F-22, as that puts it in the right size class to more or less max current carrier cat and trap weights. With the USAF focusing on combat mass there’s no reason to cancel a program that hasn’t hit major developmental stumbling blocks and would be more able to deliver on that mass, in favor of forcing a larger, more expensive, and very in demand platform into that role. Even with the missileer concept only being talked about as a supplement the strategic bomber command is already pushing hard against it, as they’re looking down the barrel of a major bomber shortfall as the B-1s approach the end of their useful service life and have no interest in sharing their production lines until that shortfall is addressed sometime next decade.
post big boom booms
They are coming for your leadhttps://www.npr.org/2025/12/08/nx-s1-5599539/hunters-encouraged-to-trade-lead-bullets-for-copper-to-protect-scavenging-animals
>>64635508I would think the different materials might be an issue because they would have different weights. I know that bong faggot tgs outdoors was super happy to find some pair of rounds for one of his rifles that were 2 different loads but had the same point of impact. I forget if it was solids vs jhp. I know I've had zero changes with my .22 but that was like shorts vs minimags and on my target rifle but that was shooting high power and is like an moa, half moa at 2/300 yards and could be due to something else other than the ammo
>>64635521Weight gets incorporated into the umbrella of balllistic coefficient (though of course shape is an impact too). But you can get identical weight copper stuff, it just has to be somewhat longer due to being lower density, so the primary issue is if you run out of COAL headroom for older cartridges not designed for modern high BC rounds. Then you either have to go out of spec or swap cartridge. But normally with anything anyone uses for hunting it's not a problem.But the point isn't that it has no impact, the point is that the impact isn't likely to be a limiting factor in typical hunting even with somewhat different BCs because you just don't see significant drop or windage with normal center fire stuff at all until you get to distances that are way beyond what most of us do (or ethically should) hunt at. I mean, there are also other approaches, like any modern optic beyond airsoft tier should track well, so you should just be able to note down different zero points too and could adjust that way, but it's just not a big deal. I really think most of the lore around zeroing before hunting season is more about (very reasonably!) creating a ritual for people who aren't shooting all year to take some time refamiliarizing themselves, getting into the mindset and meeting up with buddies vs a major risk of the rifle having had a radical zero shift in storage. And of course it doesn't hurt just in case it did take an impact without one realizing it.Plus it's fun.
>>64635564>But you can get identical weight copper stuff, it just has to be somewhat longer due to being lower density,Around 15% longer, to be exact. (Jacketed) lead is ~20% denser than copper, but since you lengthen the body and/or boattail rather than the nose it works out to a smaller length increase proportionally. That means copper bullets can start having boattails at lighter weights, which is cool.
>>64635593Yep, and as a practical matter I don't there's any downside in something normal like 308 or 6.5 either. SAAMI COAL only starts to become more limiting as you get into older magnum stuff like 300wm. That's got enough vroom to throw really high bc high precision stuff, but the spec doesn't let you go as long as you might like nowadays without uncomfortably deep seating. So it's become pretty standard to just go out of spec in well experimented with ways, though then you have to stick with that going forward. I think medium term better solution will just be to jump to 300prc, which is basically "how reloaders have altered 300wm anyway, without the belt and a few other misc fine tuning, standardized" and seems to be getting traction ok for a new cartridge so maybe it'll actually succeed.
>>64634790>Being able to make your own lead bullets should never be controlled.Do you also feel you should be able to quarry your own asbestos to insulate your home?
What kind of /k/ommando are you?
An Arma /k/ommando. I do own a nugget irl though.
>>64630749The noguns one. Getting a license is relatively easy here, but not exactly cheap. Getting a gun is easy too and second hand stuff is dirt cheap, less than the cost of the license or the law-mandated safe, but the limitations around them are asinine (number of guns, type of guns, calibers, etc). All in all I'd be out about a grand and a few months before I can have a gun. What I lack is motivation, energy, time, and money in this very order. I blame depression and wageslavery.
>>64630749The kind that saved up his lawn-mowing money to buy a Mosin and a spam can at the age of 12 (legally through a parent, of course)
>>64630757This but I'm trying to recover. But my old ways call for me and I always end up fantasizing while I reload about various deer and equines.
>>64630749Theoretical. (Nogunz in a country where winning lottery is easier than obtaining weapons license)
Unpopular opinion on this board: (From a relative close distance)Ive tried one of those arrows here and it cutted straight through an European wooden door (meaning, heavier, massive, not made of cardboard). It got stuck because of the back part of the arrow Lets say from close distance:A single arrow of this kind is deathlier than a single bullet from the same distance honnestly. This blade cutts enough veins and its impact is horrific. If it hits an artery its done soon but even the veins, tissue, other shit it damages is quite sick if you ask me. It's dark here now otherwise I could show you the door with literally a vertical hole of that arrow through it. I think a bullet will be my choice if I have to choose between being hit by a single bullet or a single arrow of this kind
>>64636181>pistol; crossbows are a terrible choice for self defencethey are, because they are the weakest kind of crossbows and they are still slow. But to call a proper weapon a toy is insane. Something that can kill a man easily isn't a toy. And you have people like Joerg Sprave defending that repeating pistol crossbows are one of the best options if you can't own a gun.
>>64636196>like Joerg SpraveIs based but I still reiterate that 50-80lb pistil crossbows are a terrible choice for self defence Vs e.g a claw hammer or simple crowbar.
>>64632807No. That was FMJ. Literally the worst performing kind of ammo possible. It was also .223 rather than 5.56, so significantly lower velocity than it really should be.>>64632667Your opinion is unpopular because it is incorrect.
>>64636189You realise the energy stored in the bow does not increase when you insert a higher weight bolt and that the formula for kinetic energyis mass by velocity squared? Therefore reducing velocity while increasing mass will result in less kinetic energy.
>>64634822>I also don't think anyone is foolish enough to use hollow point 5.56 for anything but small game huntingwhy, do you think hollowpoint 5.56 gets stopped by a thick coat?
