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Trash cans removed from shopping center in Tallinn after a vatnik planted a bomb in one. How do you defend yourself from a trash can IED? Is genocide the only real solution to this problem?
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>>64666076
Deport Russians, simple as
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>>64666079
this

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A few days ago, at a Christmas event, General Masiello, commander of the Italian Army, has announced that starting next year they will begin full adoption of the Beretta NARP assault rifle and of a new multi terrain camo that will replace both the standard Vegetata and the Vegecam used by special forces. Camos and rifle are already issued to a few elite units, and have been in testing since at least 2020

This means that Italy follows the international trend of adopting an AR15 style rifle and a Multicam-like camo. Thoughts?
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>>64665831
Yeah, I didn't really understood what was his point there. Like yeah, The current camo is fairly distinctive, but what's wrong with that?

I LOLed a bit when he said that he's gonna forbid the special forces to adopt another new camo just so they can stand out from the common folks...
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>>64665801
Dude who gives a shit about Russia, stay in your containment thread. This thread is for talking about spaghetti guns not for expressing your personal fixation
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>>64665785
>Wait, really? Where was it used?

From what I have read, it seems like the italian Army has only bought around 25000 to 30000 ARX-160 in the 16 years since it was adopted. Those are enough to equip frontline units, but a lot of second line units still have the AR70 as of 2025.

By comparison, just the first order of the NARP is said to be 22.500 units, which makes me think that this time the Army is a lot more confident in what they are buying.
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>>64665953
Similar thing for Romania. They were supposed to go for the ARX to modernize their whole military sometime around 22-24. But it looks like they got wind of the NARP, which was in development at that time, and now they’re going for the NARP.
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>>64665794
Just import 3rd worlders to run across the mine fields.

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GODDAMN THEM ALL
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>>64665779
More than some gangbanger backing the strongest local horse for drugs and pussy? Yeah
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I'm just glad the five minutes where everyone was trying to pretend that you aren't allowed to double tap cartel boats is over. Embarrassing display, plainly siding with anyone they think might slightly inconvenience the powers that be.
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>>64665946
I mean sort of in the sense that they're the only country that guarantors freedom of navigation and trade in international waters while not doing much about the drug trade in general, but it's also just your typical whiny europoor/thirdy cope because "oh my God America isn't perfectly executing something that no other country can even meaningfully attempt". The situation would be much worse with nobody doing the job or, what, the Chinese doing it? They'd be directly importing masses of fentanyl to half the planet while abducting people for organs and shit.
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>>64664200
Dump the coke, sell the boat.
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>>64666026
>backing the strongest local horse for drugs and pussy?
It's so funny that you think a random Afghan wasn't motivated by the same things

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>walk into Cabelas to look through an EXPS to see if it plays well with my astigmatism
>obese spics and trailer trash everywhere
>gun section manned entirely by crusty boomers whose room temperature IQs prevented them for six decades from figuring out how to not work some shitty retail job
>have to use their retarded queue system and wait 30 min while each braindead boomer employee deals with one customer at a time, with most of that time being standing there, doing nothing
Absolute hell. Poor and retarded people disgust me.
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Yes goy, retail sucks! Do not shop local. Please buy everything online, including firearms, ideally with a bank card linked to your legal identity. Don't you know you can save five, or even ten percent by shopping online? It's totally worth it and this definitely won't end up like what Walmart did to local family owned businesses, but even worse!
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>>64666040
>shop local
>it's all just big box stores that have dominated the landscape since the 80s

oy vey
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>>64665658
You have to find the one employee that actually keeps everything running. Then only go during his shifts. True for most human interactions really.

I've got a tx22 toro with FRT and it'll run everything unsuppressed. Once I put the can on, it absolutely will not run. I even bought the weighted backplate and a lighter spring. I've tried high velocity, cci subsonic, cci quiet semi auto and cci quiet. With and without factory recoil spring.

It will fire, extract, eject and load the next round into the chamber but the trigger is dead every time. When I rack the slide a live round comes out. When I take the can off, it runs like a scalded dog.
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>>64663328
I laughed, I'm sure Paul would have too. RIP .
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>>64663128
the product page for the suppressor is gone. Its a jacob grey suppressor, (they only made one model afaik) they don't even have a page for cans on their site. Looks like they weren't fruitful in that market. Guess I gotta figure out how to contact customer service.
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>>64660067
cci's suppressed line is more for bolt action 22s then your pistol anon, I had the same issue running it through my glock 44 with a can. just buy different ammo and run some tests, see what sticks. I usually run CCI clean 22 subs & Winchester super suppressed & they work just fine.
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>>64665870
>cci's suppressed line is more for bolt action 22s then your pistol anon
NTA but his issue is the slide cycling too fast and the trigger not resetting. It makes sense to use weaker ammo to reduce slide velocity.
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>>64665870
I've tried quiet and quiet semi auto, which is a little bit faster and works great without the can. I also tried regular subs and high velocity. Everything works until the can is screwed on.

>>64666014
I got the stainless steel weighted backplate with a red dot and it still wasnt enough. I'm waiting on another slide cap retainer pin because mine shot off into orbit when I removed the weight.

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SAVE YOUR (AND YOUR BRO'S) ASS FROM DRONE(S)
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>>64663708
>Wait they blow up?
Yes, sort of.

The vast majority of Turk shotguns have a flapper locking bolt lug that plugs into a barrel extension. This isn't a bad design. Mossberg 500s do the same thing and it's perfectly fine because shotgun chamber pressures are comparable to old BP cartridge firing rifles from the 1880s.

Of course when you have a wide range of parts subcontractors cutting corners you can get a cast bolt lug (they're always cast) that shears and the shotgun fires out of battery. This sounds like a huge catastrophic failure and it sort of is, but to give you an idea most of the time we got a report the user would come to us simply asking for a replacement bolt lug not realizing what had actually happened. The gun "exploded", but the failure is so contained and non dramatic that they don't even realize it.
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>>64662317
Ah I found the Cognoscenti on this thread! Yes everything you said is bull's-ass. I traded off my Dad's 3' Mag 1100 and got a RIA VR60 and modded the grip mag.well for M1919 Promag 20-drums of which I have several. Derya-Turkey/ARMSCOR/RIA. They have most obliging warranty service, fellow named Pedro.
I have 50 years in as Industrial Equipment repairman. I made chicken salad out of chicken shit. I know EXACTLY what kind of gun I have "it can be made to work reliably if you know what you are doing." Which includes the right Lucas Synthetic Gun Lube as to not delaminated the GRP fore end. I uprated the o-ring for the 2.75 power piston to red silicone. Also - these machines have rubber bolt buffers inside the bolt carrier which if wrong oil or neglected will contribute to locking lug failure (and yes they appear to be investment cast). Only thing you said not applicable to this model is that the annular power piston a la 1100 runs on a dedicated guide tube aka dummy mag tube. Not optimal but suits my needs fine. Also- the Apollo hardware was just a bunch of contracted out parts fastened together - so is everything. Only things ever built in fully integrated factories were Ford Automobiles and Soviet Tanks/Bikes/Tractors. Appreciate you taking the time to give me your take on my door blaster/nigger shooter/drone killer, Bro.
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>>64662317
PS - That is not my weapon. It seems that it WOULD have the power piston around the barrel, yikes bad idea.
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>>64664309
So you have the older iteration that has the dummy magazine tube? I've seen those around but haven't gone into them as much. It still seems like a very kludged design that is fine for shooting at the range or maybe home defense, but not robust enough for prolonged field use.
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>>64665438
In a pinch I can't see one in proper working order not being a fine thing to have if being hunted by a drone. Bang away at the thing with magnum goose loads until it crashes out before getting you or your buddy.

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I don't get nuclear deterrence, the idea is that if multiple parties have a weapon of catastrophic but equal power, the fear of the other using it will keep the other in check, but if one uses it then the other party would be so fucked as to not even retaliate, so how does deterrence and MAD work?
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>>64664286
>but if one uses it then the other party would be so fucked as to not even retaliat
there are several mechanisms in place to prevent exactly that, so even if your country gets whiped out, whoever attacks you dies too
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>>64664622
>Summer
>December
Even worse now, you're a poojeet.
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>>64665529
>you can bet there'll be some trust issues in the way
well, the scenario you was about one side playing nuclear brinksmanship already.
but yeah conventional warning shots would come long before that.
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>>64665529
France
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>>64664286
MAD is a meme, at worst using over 1500 nukes only half a billion or a little more will die in the first few hours, billions will die in the chaos after because of radiations+starvation+wars+plague
In theory 1-2 billion will survive and rebuild

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>Swiss pikeman could Out march mounted units
>Their pl8 armor and pike formation worked very well against longbows
Could you have had this guys Just march toward the steppe niggers horse archers resuply line and close the gap when their horses were tired to engage them in glorious melee?
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>>64663438
Did the one in red crap his pants?
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>>64663438
>legs unarmoured
I was a swiss pikeman like you, but then i got a mongol arrow to the knee...
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>>64663438
>Just march toward the steppe niggers horse archers resuply line
They don't have resupply line...

>Their pl8 armor and pike formation worked very well against longbows
Because longbowmen can't shoot running away so their time window of shooting is short. Horse archers can kite infantry shooting on the move.
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>>64663438
While the swiss maneuvered fast and often surprised their enemies during the burgundian and early italian wars I have never read about them outmarching cavalry. So when did this happen?
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>>64663438
>Swiss pikeman could Out march mounted units
Lol
LMAO
Pikes are heavy weapons. Armour is heavy. The swiss were disciplined, but they weren't superhuman.

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Been waiting for another one of these to pop up, guess I'll just do it myself
You get extra points if you actually own what you post
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>>64657774
Reposting my slightly updated Italian loadout
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>>64657774
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>>64661742
this guy shops at kommandostore
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>>64660312
>>64661267
>>64661320
> Complain about a random comment.
> Cry about it.
> Don't post in the thread.

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Which caliber is better? Does the shorter length of the .308 while being mostly the same ballisticly make it better, or does the slightly longer length and ability to use heavier grain bullets of the 30-06 make it better?
Or is 30-06 better because it sounds cooler and is an American classic?
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>>64665146
agree with this, except 6.5 Swede has been around as long as .30-06 and is only slightly less powerful/effective at long range

7mm-08 is better than .308 or 6.5 Creedmoor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0cr1PubV6o
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>>64665495
I did just to be sure I wasn't halucinating, but I've reloaded both for years too. While it's subjective to suggest what the bottom rung of anything would be, you're still at a much lower pressure than, say, .300 winmag and significantly slower. And that's comparing handloaded 30-06 to factory .300 winmag.
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>>64665495
>numbnuts
Do people still say this
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>>64665576
Fair enough

>>64665596
All the time
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>>64664630
30-06 better for 180 and heavier bullets. More case capacity. 308 only matched 30-06 at 150 grain and modern powders help it keep up with slightly heavier. I shoot both

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If you can't carry hollow points, does 45 make sense or it's an obsolete bulky shit regardless?
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>>64664400
That's the most Bubba shit on the entire catalog at the moment, and why are you so scared of cops and legalities anon?
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.45 ACP 230 grain ball kills targets dead

>>64660776 <- all you need to know
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>>64664494
>a complete meme
Not completely but the hyper-focus by CC'ers on "w-what ammo should i buy" and expansion characteristics of different pistol pills is misplaced. Shot placement, is what it is all about in the end. Oh, and 230 grain FMJ
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>>64660776
>[Image hosted by Photobucket]
LMAO
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>>64665149
I literally only fear God Almighty, Chum.
But cops and legalities are a fixed unmoving Intelligence Test and are worth the zero-dollar effort of thinking up a way to nullify them.
Professional Workman = "I run this hazard every day = I must nullify it before it statistically inevitably catches up with me."
Different never-seen-before-probably-never-to-be-seen-again hazard" = "Dangerous and super-sketch but I can get away with this once"
Such are legalities.

instead of previously planned 64 cells
it will also feature the AEGIS system and SPY-6 radar
they will likely come with Tomahawks for land attack as well
8 units are planned now instead of previously 5
26 bn euros have been designated for the project
these will likely become the most powerful surface combatants in Europe
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>>64661944
>>64661879
Ameriburger's obsession with watching their girlfriends fuck niggers is astounding
Absolutely rent fucking free lmao
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>>64651782
why not spy-7 ? Allegedly ASEV will be using them for BMD
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>>64665796
SPY-7 was originally designed for ground based installations (AEGIS ashore). It's use as a naval radar is being added on after the fact, not as the initial design. It'll do the job, but SPY-6 was purpose built for naval installations.
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>>64653595
its so stupid how do you get away with calling something like this a frigate and not a destroyer or a light cruiser?
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>>64666086
Because there is no central authority overseeing naval naming conventions. They could call it literally anything they want and it would be a valid classification.

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Post wheelgats. Just bought this 3rd change hand ejector dated to roughly 1912
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>>64664477
Checked
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>>64663872
It's a paintball gun!

>>64664663
It is. I literally have a .45 colt conversion cylinder installed in the photo.
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>>64653182
Those ones don’t have any more issues to my knowledge than any of the new S&W revolvers which is mostly just QC. They are gtg, just inspect it before buying but get one without the lock or remove it. I’ve seen them turn on twice under recoil in two different guns (model 66 and 686)


Oh hell nah new captcha minigame
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>>64664663
Army caliber cap and balls are really 45 cal, same reason how 357 caliber is 38 caliber, they measured from the lands
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>>64664477
Checked
>>64666052
>It's a paintball gun!
Kek'd. Would be super cool if it was real

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Winter stew at the right time edition

Guide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdf
Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNik

Previous >>64656652
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>>64666012
Strange how sometimes uploading washes out the image.
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>>64665179
You don't need to see to run at a voice im and attempt to melee. It's useful vs another gun. If you don't understand this you probably spent too much on an obsolete surefire because of the name. The latest chink shit mogs the military issue shit from a few years ago.
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>>64666035
As far as I can tell outside of making your own frankenlight out of dubious durability chinkshit parts the most you're getting is Surefire performance for 150 bucks or less.
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>>64666035
>obsolete surefire

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MIG-31-ACK
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>>64663656
>Ok so it got hit twice, surely they won't bring more vehicles there again.
>Ok so it got hit a 3rd time, surely they won't bring more vehicles there again.
>Ok so it got hit a 4th time, surely they won't bring more vehicles there again.
>...
>>Ok so it got hit a Xth time, surely they won't bring more vehicles there again.
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>>64657751
B E L B E K
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>>64663656
Fancy a read?
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>>64659172
>high velocity oil sanction
kek
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>>64663680
>They do not have 250 MiG 31s in anything close to a functional state
I doubt it also but I didn't say that they did, I said that they had 100 at the low end and up to 250 at the high end.

It is, in a timeline where the Russian airforce are competent, technically possible that they have 250 modernized, flying MiG31s. That is physically possible given the starting conditions and resources available.
Obviously we don't live in that timeline, nothing that permits Russia to rise above laughing stock is allowed to happen in our timeline by some kind of immutable law of reality. This is because we're all NPCs in a Ukrainian propaganda braindance being presented in 2312 that shows how their global empire was founded in a titanic battle against an evil empire where the plucky underdog turned the tables by grit, passion and the power of friendship.

Anyway, Russia has at least 100 MiG 31s that are probably modernized for Kinzhals, they could have quite a few more but the point is that killing just one isn't a game changer the way that degrading air defence radar is. Even if the MiG is technically an irreplaceable high points item.


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