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Is the Kilo-class a good weapon system for 2026?
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>>64642947
It actually +1'd
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>>64642893
Another possibility in the slightly longer term is that peace results in the world economy doing better, which increases demand for oil, but production might not quite keep up straight away.
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>>64642871
It'd be even more hilarious if a ceasefire caused russian economy to catch up with reality and crash.
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>>64641065
Datchas are a form of mental healthcare. You escape to them as often as you can when the weather becomes good again, because the commie blocks crush the soul.

Or at least they were when I was growing up.
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>>64641893
Laurel and Hardy of course.

Did anyone in the middle east actually make a decent gun before 1955? As far as I know they just suck at doing so.
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>>64643062
You didn't have to repeat yourself
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>>64641147
Honestly to get you in perspective, teh guns manufactured in for example islamic Mysore in the 18th century were better than anything being made in the Americas (which were mainly based on imported parts from Birmingham)
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>>64643084
Educate us. Got any reading material/sources on that?
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>>64643077
I thought I'd give the sauce on it for anons but the armoury of Tipu Sultan is a well known thing for those that like antique arms and collections.
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>>64643090
It's how the british empire worked, go look up e.g ketland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Ketland

Book
Empire of Guns: The Violent Making of the Industrial Revolution

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Now that the dust has settled... Its time to apologize. Join me in an apology for a pistol was betrayed by its country despite its years of service.. A perfect embodiment of the GWOT era.

Dear Beretta, we regret replacing you with cheap malfunctioning trash.

Dear Beretta, we apologize for feeding you with substandard magazines which caused failure to feed issues.

Dear Beretta, we regret mocking your lack of modularity despite 99% of troops never actually putting modular crap on their service pistol.

Dear Beretta, we apologize for saying you were too big for womens hands, we realize now that women should never have been in the military or even the workplace.

Dear Beretta, the weight of our transgressions stays our /k/ feet. We do not wish to be left behind.

Amen.

To all men listening now, this week, head to your local sports and outdoor and purchase a Beretta M92 variant. Clean it, train with it, learn its functions and maintenance as your own, it will take care of you as well. But do not apologize, as we have all apologized in solidarity here today.

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>>64641902
my M9 has a finish that's starting to wear after less than a year of ownership
what do
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>>64642396
the military only required a service life of 25k rounds and then proceeded to shoot the guns way past 25k
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Hey guys
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>>64641909
>I have gunsoomed too much recently though
If you still don't have some type of 90-series pistol after all these years, can you really say that you've "gun-sumed" at all?
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>>64643018
>the military

We had a strict depot-level maintenance schedule, sport. None of the other 10 year old acquisitions had catastrophic failure rates coming even close to those piles of shit, no matter how many times the action had been cycled, or ammunition type.

I can’t speak to other Beretta pistol models, but I can say with absolute certainty the NATO spec M9 is an expensive piece of shit.

Do attack helicopters still have a place on the modern battlefield?
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>>64641985
I'm paraphrasing a bit but one of the pilots interviewed about the US Army reducing pilot intake said something to the effect of
>Why are we trying to become the Ukrainian Army?
>We're the US Army, and we're quite good at it.
People seem to be seeing 'wow, drones are enough to let anyone stop mighty Russia' and not 'wow, drones are fucking scary in a degraded operational environment between two forces stretched thin and lacking enough of their preferred tools'.
I also don't think it helps that 'drone' as a term has some novelty to it. You're seeing what we would've called cruise missiles 20 years ago being called drones. Most of these things are being used as glorified TV-guided munitions.
Everyone loves a disruptor and a tech solution, even if it's not fundamentally a new threat vector at all.
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>>64641682
>Maneuver infantry wars stalled into attrition warfare horrors then
This fucking stupid meme again.

Ludendorff and Brusilov would like word with you.
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>>64641835
>driving modern cadillacs
Don't do that to yourself, anon, even if it is for the betterment of your countrymen.
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>>64638370
not gonna work in a post Ukraine battlefield as they're just gonna get fucked up by FPV drones
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>>64637921
What else is going to escort the transport helicopter?

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No steel to steel based. No ammunition to much ammunition
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>>64643040
Type 64 pistol

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If you were tasked with designing a military transport plane, how would you prevent this from happening?
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>>64642797
The last Russian cock is gone.
Truly now the only thing that can be in the ass is the ass.
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It would be very serious if this severe damage occurred with the plane empty.
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>>64642810
But without the mighty Russian cock how will they get the eggs? You know what they say, an unlaid egg can never be measured.
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>>64642648
That only happens at high temperatures, retard.
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>>64639759
I would build it to very rigorous aviation standards with regulations governing the materials that can be used.
Cardboard's right out.

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Post gear, discuss gear.
Camo chic: Operator mode
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I ended up with a few of these civil guard soft plate vest. I'm not really a plate guy but I want to fill them for the larp at comps. Do these take a fairly common size soft plate?
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>>64643022
how did you end up with them?
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>>64643028
Helped clean up a bay after a match and ended up with a small and a medium that someone there was trying to get rid of. Gave the medium to a buddy and still have the small. I can post tags later when I get home from the office.
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>>64643044
>small
Give it to your gf and reenact this
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>>64643059
/gq/ - rape general

I've got a serious strategy to beat China in WW3. Let's say we're trying to invade Shanghai: we'll humidify the fuck out of Shanghai's atmosphere with milk particles. Chinese people by-and-large are lactose intolerant, so all the Chinese soldiers will be forced to surrender due to shitting their pants or experiencing a tummy ache; meanwhile, the milk in the atmosphere will enhance the combat capabilities of western soldiers. It doesn't violate the Geneva Conventions because milk is technically not a chemical weapon, and it'd be humane too since it doesn't even cause any permanent injuries. We'll haul over all kinds of equipment and boatloads of milk to achieve it, and we could even "poison" Shanghai's water supply with milk, leaving the Chinese with zero ability to fight. There'd probably be mass desertions too since PLA soldiers would just ditch the trenches to get away from the smell of shit.

I don't know if chemical weapons are within the scope of /k/, but what do you guys think? Should I try and lobby this idea to a think tank?
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>>64633260
Can't be worse than Noro.
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>>64629911
>Korea
>Asian nation that eats the most beef
Ironic.
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>>64633260
>That qT3.14 endlessly brapping for 2 weeks.
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>s/k/eletons

I have captured the milkman and soon he's gonna crack and confess everything you FUNNY BONE FUCKS!!!!
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>>64642818
Dairy cowfs and beef cattle are distinct beasts.

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Could it work for home defense?
I am from a country where firearms are almost impossible to get but these are not regulated
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>>64635859
There was one sperg a couple years ago in Norway or Denmark or something who shot up a grocery store as much as one can with a bow. I think he killed at least one or two people.
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>>64635768
>Then why you can buy a compound bow but a pistol is forbidden?
In my country fucking butterfly knives and thumb stud opener knives are prohibited, but 30cm chef knives can be sold to anybody regardless of age over the counter.
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>>64642304
Ok, makes sense, but that applies only if you carry the stuff around. For home defense they should be legal though.
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>>64642246
What threads?
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>>64635768
Pistol fits in your pocket, shoots multiple times without you having to reload it, is much easier to use and to hide, and is considered a status symbol by the people who shouldn't have them.

Wtf is that captcha ?

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What kind of /k/ommando are you?
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>>64641669
by the way the fable about the cement is a popular myth but untrue although bannerman was up to his neck in gun running at times irritating the federal government, .
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>>64641661
if it could be stuck up an ass, it was
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>>64641310
>Thanks Anon, appreciate the insight and suggestions. The Interwar years are of particular interest to me so I'll def be checking those out.
https://findingaids.hagley.org/repositories/3/resources/980

Francis Bannerman Son was a major purveyor of military goods to sportsmen and collectors in New York City over three generations. The Francis Bannerman Son records demonstrate the operation of a small family business and a lack of formal structure. They document Bannerman's purchase of military goods from state and federal arsenals and their resale to individuals, with other regular purchases of arms and military antiques made on buying trips to Europe. The bulk of the collection consists of over 143 bound volumes of order books and outbound letters, and correspondence of incoming letters containing customer orders and inquiries. This collection would be useful to researchers interested in the resale costs and designs of military goods, especially arms and uniforms, as well as family-run small business performance and operations.
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>>64641669
Bannerman stores, New York, 1929. Photograph, Antique Dealer Research Project, University of Leeds.
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>>64639579
>Bubbly white girl personally
Describe that, I have trouble pinning down the flags to look for.

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This is getting ridiculous. The potential of terrorism in the future with this is really scary
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>>64642971
My mom regularly goes to estate sales and she told me about this one sale at the house of a recently deceased military man who had a bunch of cool shit in his house, apparently used to teach tracking, survival and evasion stuff to the SADF and Rhodesian Army. Anyway they found a bunch of dynamite and a live M26 or M67 frag grenade in his basement. Had to call in the EOD from team Tucson. Anyway point of the story is there’s a lot more shit like that lying around then most people thinks. I guy at work I know’s father was an EOD for the county sheriff’s department and he would get called out about three times a week for stuff like that. Mind you, we are a small rural county in bumbfuck nowhere so three times a year is a lot. Anyway my point is there’s is a lot more HE explosives just lying around then people think.
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>>64642988
Well it is chinkshit from aliexpress, what do you expect?
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>>64642599
In some ways we already have:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNi5aZIc4kA

This should be how drone warfare should escalate. It starts with monkey business to prove you can do it and to humiliate your opponent into conceding.
>Doesn't breach international law to use skynet tomfoolery
>You can test enemy responses and counter-measures
>Decades of memes

>>64643006
>Rhodesian Army

The point where I knew you were making shit up.
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>>64643023
>Doesn't like Rhodesia.
Tell me you’re brown without telling me you’re brown. Even the Jews like Rhodesia. https://palmettostatearmory.com/iwi-zion-15-16-5-56-nato-rifle-rhodesian.html
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>>64642368
>Diplomats and Bureaucrats are terrorists
Why are schizos suddenly obsessed with the State Department?

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I call it .22 loooong rifle
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>>64641292
NEEDLE DICK, NEEDLE DICK
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>>64641292
8mm black
Was an idea i had for a high mag-cap .30cal subsonic round.
Similar to the idea behind .30 supercarry, except i would want it to be .308 calibre instead of .312, and for all the loads to be heavy subs.
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The mondo-mega round
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>>64641292
From a conversation I had with a friend of mine yesterday:
2x9mm
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>>64642656
>wide af chamber
>shoots a zippy tiny load
Wonder kind of crazy muzzle velocity you can get with that

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>duuude gun laws are pointless because everyone with 4k worth of tools and 2 weeks of free-time can build his very own SMG (that has an effective range of 10 yards)
ok but where are you going to get the ammo?
sure, smuggling 10 rounds across the border is easier than smuggling a weapon but for a proper "protect the rights of the people"-situation you need hundreds if not thousands of rounds per gun

seems like it would make more sense to build DIY long range rifles instead of SMGs / Pistols so you can get the most out of each round
yes, you can make your own ammo with blanks and slugs but that stuff can be banned too and then its back to square 1
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>>64637642
I'd really like to see you make an ammo casing and a primer cup from scratch
I'm not joking, I'm serious
please go ahead and try
>>64637658
he's still using the brass hard to machine part of the 12ga shell
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>>64641919
The cup can be made by wrapping aluminum foil around the end of a match stick. The anvil is the hard part.
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>>64641502 #
>The French method involved mixing manure, ashes, straw and human urine, fermented for a year, then filtered through ashes and straw.

You can make saltpeter and charcoal, sulfur needs to be mined though.
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>>64630041
For Europeans and others with gnarly gun control, you have my sympathies.

For my fellow Americans, any discussion about "le diy ammo" is larp fantasy because the immediately apparent solution is to buy 5000 rounds of 22lr for the cost of a couple shifts at mcdonalds and cache them across your area/state/city. Heck, even stash a bunch of 9mm and 5.56, you can even cache entire guns extremely easily.
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>>64637594
>haven’t had a mass shooting since
The funny thing is, they've had 30 since port arthur. A few are gang related or are family killings, but plenty of dudes took guns and started shooting up a park or restaurant.

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HADID-110 stealthy loitering munition
Here are the specs
>350km per hour topspeed
>9km cruising altitude
>30 kilogram warhead
>0.02m cross section
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>>64637262
>designed to be spammed en masse
So was the original ones, to bait and saturate air defenses. Iran just uses them generally because lol no air force to destroy air defenses for. If Iran had a real air force (including big drones), they would be using Shaheds like that too.
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>>64637604
A schizophrenic told me in my dream that the Israeli psyop unit building got hit during the Iranian buttblast and that's why other boards stopped having weird shit spammed on them for a while. Therefore it's cope, even Israeli media admitted the damage was way worse than they admitted during the attack.
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>>64631107
>this
>stealth
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>>64632863
This image makes me hard.
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>>64637262
>The Harpy was a anti-radiation munition designed for SEAD, the Shasneed is a low cost attack munition designed to be spammed en masse. They are different in every single way beyond their general shape, which means fucking nothing when it comes to military tech.
What I'm hearing is that the Iranians wanted Harpy at home, but were incapable of copying the electronics, so they built something that looked the same and bragged about how implessive their engineering is. You know, the same thing they did with the RQ-170.
>Is the American Shasneed a copy of captured Shasneeds from Ukraine?
The American Shasneed in your picture is a target drone designed to replicate the performance of captured Shasneeds from Ukraine, in a sense, yes it is. But trying to pass it off as "Americans are desperate to copy superior third world engineering" is obviously bullshit.

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>Delta operators all just shoot USPSA
>Seal Team 6 guys all do jujitsu
>guy with an immunology degree who dropped out of medical school to serve in the USAF as a non-deployable POG makes videos every week wearing different larp costumes as he shills PSA garbage and makes videos on 'how to be deadly in [x] environment'
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>>64641844
This, larpers are embarrassing themselves.

It’s off putting to normal people to see civilians acting “serious” with guns.

It’s fine if they own the cringe aspects of collecting/pretending, and acknowledge it as a hobby and nothing more, but pretending to be on the same level as legitimate forces is an utmost humiliation.

Things get worse when they can’t point to what is the “mission” they are supposedly equipping themselves for, without referencing radicalization materials and kremlin propaganda.
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>>64642075
ain’t no way someone with a grown beard in their 50s uses 4chan
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>>64632374
Is that John Symantec?
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>>64642215
QUIT WHISPERN LIBRUL ... I CANT HEER SO GOOD THESE DAYS
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>>64608686
>POV riding cowboy on a shemale

What the fuck is this captcha. This is gigaaids. Is this some esoteric bullshit. How the fuck are you solving this. Am I retarded?

Nevermind. I think I got it


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