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How would an european army look like? Which weapons, vehicles, gear and doctrine would they use? And how would their logistic chain and administration work?
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>>64643234
A transnational army is against national sovereignty. If Spain wants to ally itself with another nation, the army can be sent there. But there is no need to lend our forces to a transnational entity.
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>>64643241
National sovereignty is an outdated concept. Europe needs liberal supranational unity.
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>>64643249
you are soulless
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>>64643256
What has nationalism ever done for Europe but divide it?
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>>64639922
>L85A2 (default starting weapon)
Please for the love of God give them the C8, the legit real service rifle of the Bongs who are actually expected to see combat.
>>64639953
>I cannot decide what country EU Engineer should be.
Why not the Czechs?

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What kind of /k/ommando are you?
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>>64641661
if it could be stuck up an ass, it was
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>>64641310
>Thanks Anon, appreciate the insight and suggestions. The Interwar years are of particular interest to me so I'll def be checking those out.
https://findingaids.hagley.org/repositories/3/resources/980

Francis Bannerman Son was a major purveyor of military goods to sportsmen and collectors in New York City over three generations. The Francis Bannerman Son records demonstrate the operation of a small family business and a lack of formal structure. They document Bannerman's purchase of military goods from state and federal arsenals and their resale to individuals, with other regular purchases of arms and military antiques made on buying trips to Europe. The bulk of the collection consists of over 143 bound volumes of order books and outbound letters, and correspondence of incoming letters containing customer orders and inquiries. This collection would be useful to researchers interested in the resale costs and designs of military goods, especially arms and uniforms, as well as family-run small business performance and operations.
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>>64641669
Bannerman stores, New York, 1929. Photograph, Antique Dealer Research Project, University of Leeds.
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>>64639579
>Bubbly white girl personally
Describe that, I have trouble pinning down the flags to look for.
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>>64639856
Nah. They elected a zionist Russian plant and allowed billions of Mexicans and now Indians to take their jobs. So much for the 2A.

I want to chug-jug with you

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>image limit reached

https://github.com/rcc11/4chan-sounds-player
>I can hear her singing at me from the pictures... I'm going crazy
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>>64642990
>tulpa
Fake and gay meme like astral projection. Whoever can actually hear or see their waifu has schizophrenia
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>>64643148
>Whoever can actually hear or see their waifu has schizophrenia
I'm hoping to get there.
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>>64643171
Doesn't work that way short of a TBI or dementia, anon
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>I pronounce you weeabo and battleship
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>>64643210
Do you not live another life in your head anon?

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>>64629125
I want the tommy gun famas
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>>64641263
The funniest thing is Germany took Stens and made an even uglier gun.
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>>64618716
>>64629110
These are both genuinely pretty sweet looking
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>>64643233
What gun?
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FCAS is clearly dead, there will be no shared plane. France is able to develop it's own plane, Germany is not. That leaves the question, does Germany back down? Do they enlist the US/France/UK to build vital components? What other methods can they do to produce a future fighter?
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>>64628763
This. Despite Germany only joining late to the F-35 club they’re allowed to make the fuselage. Best case scenario is just asking the US, agree on local production and call it a day. If you want to develop something domestic you can also ask the US like Korea did.
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>>64625813
>and they are notorious for inflating their "pre-orders" to get more workload for their industry and then bailing out on real buys
Funny because that is what France did with the A400. On top of that they also used the promise of more orders to strongarm production shutdowns in germany and then cancelled their orders
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>>64642841
>Despite Germany only joining late to the F-35 club they’re allowed to make the fuselage.
Wait, whut?
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>>64643180(me)
I checked. You are correct. Huh.
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>>64626779
>Germany and France make a different plane but otherwise share the other aspects of FCAS
Honestly doesn't sound like that bad an idea if they can work it out. Say Germany makes a fighter bomber, France makes a carrier capable fighter, and Spain provides the sensors, countermeasures, communications, etc for both aircraft that would then allow both to talk to each other and any autonomous wingmen or drones, share sensor data and whatever else. The two planes might even share common parts a bit like the variants of the F-35 do to simply logistics.

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Thoughts about motorcycle dragoons/cavalry?
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>>64642554
Wdym? They look like foam play mats to me
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>>64627393
Motorcycle dragoons makes sense if you can make the bikes quiet enough. Sneak around, set up 1-5 man ambushes, hit the enemy, use the bikes to scatter before they call in drones or artillery, and then restock from the bike's cargo rack.

Also good for offroad anti-insurgent patrols since you can cover more ground as 10 men in bikes rather than 10 men in an APC.

The bad part is that it's useless for assaulting a position because of the complete lack of armor. One MG nest can wipe an entire platoon if they're dumb enough to charge.
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>>64627482
More like they were being used as anti-tank QRF. As soon as you hear about a tank push you send out two guys with bikes and ATGMs.
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>>64627672
Then the Bike is still better since losing 1 man is better than losing 10.
>>64627715
Ukraine did.
https://en.defence-ua.com/industries/dnepr_motorcycles_equipped_with_atgms_to_help_to_destroy_russias_tanks-3512.html
Rather than rushing the enemy, Ukraine used bikes to set up ambushes.
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>>64633877
Dubs of truth. I drive a hybrid and throttle response is practically instantaneous.

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tactical implications?
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>>64641055
Fun fact: They were so quiet that there was a standing order that forbade sleeping outside of designated and clearly marked areas during exercises so grunts didn't get crushed to death in their sleep.
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>>64643209
I'm glad the slopes still think white walls are cool.

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Ready. Aim. FIRE!
Shock troops of the SS, rollout. Post tantalizing pics of your payloads and kristmas gear.

Shipping deadline is passed! Quick, get it out so you still make the raffle! Make sure to send the tracking numbers to myself at wendigohunter at protonmail dot com

thread theme: https://youtu.be/7pS3nx9zREE?si=ozZcmbvGApkzW3LJ

old thread
>>64557036

DRIP
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>>64642847
Is this what zoomers consider discourse? Have YOU ever worn a tie to work?
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black/grey/white is babbies first coord
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>>64642839
>Germans patterned their dress uniforms after WW1 British officers uniforms
Yeah I can't see it. Seems more like there is a continuous development from WW1 over the 20s and to the 30s
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>>64635745
Either wear the tie properly or dont wear it at all, you look like you just lost a multi million dollar fund and are about to go on a bender with a sloppy tie

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Thinking about a 1911 for my first gun. Is Rock Island a good choice (budget is my chief concern)? Also should I go with 45 or 9mm?
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>>64642460
I always find 45s out of a steel 1911 a lot more comfortable that 9 out of a polymer gun
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>>64642728
>>64642807
>>64642837
Thank you, anons. Is there anything modern in .45/10mm that's basically the modern equivalent of a 1911 or is a reasonable quality 1911 just the apex of semi-autos?
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Would you buy a Springfield Garrison for $490?
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>>64642859
>is a reasonable quality 1911 just the apex of semi-autos?
yeah basically.

There is side grades like tuned up DA/SA (or with SAO conversions) guns like P226/92X Performance/Shadow 2/Shadow 2 clones but they aren't as good as a 1911/2011.

>10mm 1911
these things are extremely finicky, I would stick to .45 ACP and .45 Super
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>>64643124
I didn't say 10mm 1911, just 10mm chambered gun that happens to approach 1911 quality. Someone mentioned a CZ75.

It seems like a fun time
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>>64641388
umarex owns walther its not a separate company. still shit though
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>>64641375
>cologne walther
Remember, three crowns = umarex/RG
Antler = actual walther
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The slide is "shitty potmetal", that is, a zinc alloy. There are concerns about the slide deteriorating over time with wear. Pure zinc can be corrosive just with the air and thus needs plating; the zinc alloy used hasn't (according to some) been out long enough to see how it may corrode over the years.
Anecdotal reports from users claim that it tends to be picky with ammo. CCI Mini Mag seems to be best choice for most (again, anecdotally).
Bottom line, it's a much cheaper way to have a PPK/S to have fun plinking with, but perhaps don't expect it to be a heirloom to be passed down the generations.
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25acp needs to make a comeback.
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>>64642909
If they also update the ballistics, yes.

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what the fuck
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>>64630893
They really are just floating castles covered in guns
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>>64611608
>>64612932
LONGER DAMMIT!
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>>64611682
>>pretty much the entire crew dies
bushido accomplished
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>>64612887
>Little boy: "What did you do during the war, grandpa?"
>Grandpa: "I turned three knobs to the settings a voice on the headphones told me to. Mathematically speaking, my contribution to the ship's overall effectiveness makes me responsible for 7.31 dead Japs"
>Little boy: "Based."
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>>64642793
Who is the individual guy or guys that mathematically bear the most responsibility for actually killing things with the main battery? Maybe the officer inside the gun director tower?

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What does /k/ think about punch daggers?
I box and have no knife training, would this be better or is a regular knife / training just far better?
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>>64641278
I'm not familiar that specific interview, but I'm sure anyone that was in 1-75th at the time and that remembers Shrek could confirm it. Shrek was a just a new private nobody at the time. I don't get the whole thing about Shrek hurting his foot, getting trucked off to an aid station, and that was the end of it what makes it so unbelievable?
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>>64642331
That's all well and good, but the point remains that it's both kinesthetically and ergonomically easier to stab or slash from a grapple than it is to straight punch. If I *need* a knife, I want MORE knife that I can slash with. Thus, punch daggers aren't it. Fights do not conform to your fighting style, they unfold in seconds, spill out in ways you absolutely weren't planning. One moment you're up, next thing you know you're on one knee getting grappled down, or knocked down in a gutter, or pinned against a wall. There are already very few situations in which a knife can be deployed as effectively as a gun. A punch knife has much fewer, with the added bonus of looking mean enough to scare the half-dozen wine aunts that will be in your jury. There's a reason why they haven't caught on really anywhere over the old reliables.
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>>64642271
> How do you think a 6’+ white guy that’s clearly western and doesn’t speak the language while western powers are invading said country is at all comparable to a tourist welcomed openly?
Why didn’t you answer this?

Also in his own words he didn’t try hard to disguise himself? He “acted like a retard” to get people to ignore him. He didn’t try to blend in. Regardless, what disguise can conceal a 6’ white guy who doesn’t speak durka durka in a country full of dunecoons?
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>>64643170
He just grew a beard and wore some pajamas
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>>64643170
i forgot they don't have white guys in afghanistan

What was the unnnamed agency?
https://youtu.be/I2V4Cjob6_s?si=wMNL9QbEKEYrmoso&t=31
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Mosad. If it was an American agency some fag would have written a book about his time as a government assassin by now.
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>In total, about 100 of these revolving rifles were made, for two different clients. One batch used .30-caliber bullets and the other used a 7mm bore.

Two unnamed agencies. One Euro and one in the US?
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>>64642388
Given the time period and design requirements I'd suspect GSG9.
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cia sad
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>>64643182
Nah. It's the kind of thing they have but they built theirs in house.

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ITT:images you d hang on your wall.
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>two opposing armies 1-2 seconds away from literally crashing into one another

Probably my all-time favorite civil war painting
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>>64641267
The two things don't have a connection, m8. Krauts lost, and they deserved to lose. Sorry you hang around on twitter too much or whatev.
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Sorry for the page split, but I can't find this online.
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>>64642457
This is extremely based.
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>>64643168
NM, thank you, Yandex.


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