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What does /k/ think about punch daggers?
I box and have no knife training, would this be better or is a regular knife / training just far better?
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>>64638897
>use le knife
>you scratch your opponent
>the opponent backs up in response to pain.
>as the adrenaline kicks in, he suddenly stops feeling pain and instead feels anger and the urge to fight for his survival
>now, you have an angry opponent who doesn't just want to harm you, but kill you
>congrats
If it's not a gun that can seriously wound your opponent, a long stick with enough range to fend off the enemy, or a chemical repellent, then it's useless for self-defense.
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>>64638744
Self Defense situation with a cold steel recon tanto is my only real world knife experience. I have some of the other cold steel knife daggers they feel awkward and I have boxed, nothing golden gloves but some armature matches in my 20s and I couldn't see myself using that type of knife. If its the only knife I had? Ok fine, but if I have options its a fixed blade or a meaty folder like the recon. That and I was in the ZogARMY we carried fixed blades but i personally never got that close other guys I am aware of used a fixed blade with great success.
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>>64640834
>In the past these people would seek officer jobs
this is blatantly false
most of them did it cuz of the action and the training and discipline it required to keep the action going
most special operators would rather retire than be promoted out of the action or "ranked out" as they say
it's why most of them try out for different branches when that time is coming in their careers
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>>64640827
he didn't do anything that's why it's funny
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>>64640834
>>64640861
the only reason these guys are becoming "narcissists" is because they have no other means of getting PAID WELL anymore for the skill sets they have
it's why the majority become instructors because the private sector has mostly been gutten and all the fun got taken out of it when all the military contractors got regulated and has political oversight now
because in the past when they rank out they just turn into highly paid mercs

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These were the guys doing the demining and EOD in Kursk. Something about the guys in front seems odd...
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>>64633472
You can't wake someone who's only pretending to sleep.
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>>64629041
Those don't look like engineers. Where are their glasses?
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>>64632927
It's not just them it's everyone with decent Sonbun. Slowly becoming national policy.

The Ukraine vets are just well positioned because most of them just leapfrogged several social levels at once, them or anyone in their close families aren't worried about getting a mate since everyone they know is calling them up right now.

That nerd Sum Dum Fuk from high school is suddenly alot more attractive these days.
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>>64629286
His bloodpressure also doesn't look healthy.
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>>64629286
What in the fuck are those "sideburns"?
>Juche fuck my shit up

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It's time to buy a gun in a big boy caliber. I plan on hunting with it, so weight and length is a concern. 500 yards and in, deer sized game. Thinking 6.5 creedmoor or .308, maybe in a 16" or 18" barrel since I like using a can. Thoughts? I like the springfield waypoint, but the barrel seems a bit long. Sig cross is tempting as well, even though I hate Sig with a passion. It has to shoot very tiny groups (sub .75 moa preferred) because im an accuracy douche, weigh less than 9 lbs, and preferably cost under 2500. Willing to go higher if its not super diminishing returns. Buy a factory gun or build one?
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just get an M16A1. it does everything you want.
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>>64640857
>I plan on hunting with it

yeah but you aren't gonna go hunting because you're too shy to go to classes, have no idea where to even go to hunt and have no idea what to do with a deer once you shoot it.

so how about you just buy a steyr scout in 308 and have fun at the range instead.

Do attack helicopters still have a place on the modern battlefield?
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>>64640763
Desu, my experience indicates its the millenials who *are* the commies.
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Can't imagine how they will not get bullied by drones
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>>64640799
Millennials are mostly complete slaves to consensus and will go with whatever they think the group will want to hear them say.
>t. millennial
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>>64640774
>in modern war, there's a lot more precision possible
>there's a difference between attacking dual-use industry and terror bombing
Reasonable points. When paired with your response to the other anons, I think it gets to the heart of my thinking on the issue. I am not opposed to the development or usage of precision weapons, nor do I particularly mind touting their development as helping mitigate civilian casualties. But for me, getting the job done fast with the fewest friendly casualties possible takes priority, which means for me, I don't particularly care if, in a hypothetical war over Taiwan, we end up killing hundreds of thousands by giving the Three Gorges Dam the Operation Chastise treatment.
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>>64640821
Fair enough. As a zoomer, I haven't noticed much difference in disposition of my own generation.

Kinda seems like it's a people problem, not a generation problem. Because, as extended time on 4chan will teach you, there are such things as conformists to nonconformity.

>had a little girl pull a gun on me today
What is this world coming to? Recommend something non lethal that doesnt leave marks
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>>64635113
>>64634614
>>64636944
>>64637982
>got told she was going to get fired for being too racist to jews
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>>64637588
Bruh
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>>64637897
The only thing I said was that bitch sucked at video games and she started blasting. I'm only stating the truth.
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>>64640502
>I'm only stating the truth.
NO, YOU’RE TRYING TO START A WAR. MAYBE YOU’LL THINK MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU SAY NEXT TIME
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>>64640832
Hell no. Blue sucks at video games and she's stuck at bronze iii on Rainbow Six.

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The shills say you'll definitely buy one.
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Looks really ugly. Why doesnt the rail go to the front of the slide anymre?
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>>64639880
>going to the range even once a month and shooting 150-200 rounds
Why would you do this? You go to a noob range which is just a weapons testing line. They don't let you move or draw from the holster, use sling methods, etc. That's not training. You don't even need to fire any rounds to train, you're telling me you have no formal training to set a slate for what you do at the noob weapons testing line you go to, then you just shit thousands of rounds down the drain? Fucking hobbyists man, what a waste.

>>64640357
Gen 6 and they stil have a proprietary rail lmao. Glock is a failed experiment.
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>>64639880
Don't respond to that retard, he doesn't own any guns.
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>>64640704
lots of people on /k/ think going to an indoor standing slow fire range and dumping 400 rounds on a single target is "training"
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>>64640770
The same people recommend you take a "class" with your AR and magdump at paper targets 20 feet away, expending 4000 rounds in the process.

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how would it change WWII if we adopted a closed bolt colt monitor with a flash hider instead of the garand and BAR?
it's only a few pounds heavier than a garand.
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>>64633536
yeah because it would have been completely free to produce this instead there were totally zero legitimate reasons why simpler more robust weapons were fielded
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>>64636459
It's the Prussians after all, they knew how to leverage advantages. They won against the Chassepot because they had superior artillery despite a worse rifle. And in the previous war Franco-Prussian war it was the other way around. If they had both a worse rifle and artillery? The war would had been a lot harder.
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>>64634718
>unable accommodate accessories such as optics
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>>64633303
It probably seems like a logical question to someone that's not old enough to post here like OP.
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>>64637001
obviously there was something wrong with the m14 or we'd still have it.

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Im becoming .22 wmr pilled and idk what to make of that
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I used to own a Savage 93 in .22 mag, I could hit a steel plate at 200 yards with iron sights, was a fun little rifle but the 10 round mags didn't work right when loaded to capacity.
>>64637886
>imagine when the AR rifle was introduced
>it's chambered in .243 Winchester
>kills 99% of gooks
>win the war
Seriously though the only problem I've heard about .243 is it wears barrels out pretty damn fast. I used to own a Sako Forester but I didn't shoot it enough for that to happen.
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>>64636011
Must've forgotten to hit "submit" earlier. I have a 22LR set up how I want, a second just a part away from being a good backup, and an AR, all with a scope. So I have two 22 options depending on game as well as an AR, all with a scope. I think 22 WMR would be a nice in-between for certain game; probably less drop, better for groundhogs over 50 and maybe slightly bigger game. Cheap ammo, too, even the good stuff. Good compliment to the guns I already have; I just hope 22 mag supers out of a ~20-24" barrel with a silencer are in the same range of volume as 22LR supers out of a 18" barrel with a silencer.
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>>64636011
I'm tired of .17HMR being sidelined, it's great and deserved the meme launch cult status.
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>>64640550
Despite being effective at what it does, our country just discriminates on that bullet diameter. People who love .17-diameter bullets and/or .25-diameter bullets are constantly getting the short end of the stick.
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>>64640690
>>64640550
>.22 wmr necked to .17
Hold on now son i wasnt privvy to that info, i may be also getting .17 hmr pilled then

That's approximate number of nuclear warheads NATO, the Warsaw Pact, and their friends possessed at the peak of the Cold War in 1985.

Here's my question, if things had actually had actually come to a head, how many of these could actually have been fired off in an exchange. Say, it's all-out mutually assured destruction where the goal is the total extermination of the opposing side, could you have actually seen 60,000+ warheads being fired off or would both sides have had command and control collapse after the first few hundred and the rest being left unable to be used?
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>>64637401
It's funny because an airburst detonation would cause more damage, but jeets.
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>>64637406
I just use it to fuck horsegirls but you do you
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>>64638048
Same, except the horsegirls fuck me
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>>64637374

what movie?
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>>64640793
It’s like multiple movies stitched together, I recognise some of the scenes from the Nic Cage movie Knowing

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Unpopular opinion on this board:

(From a relative close distance)

Ive tried one of those arrows here and it cutted straight through an European wooden door (meaning, heavier, massive, not made of cardboard). It got stuck because of the back part of the arrow

Lets say from close distance:
A single arrow of this kind is deathlier than a single bullet from the same distance honnestly. This blade cutts enough veins and its impact is horrific. If it hits an artery its done soon but even the veins, tissue, other shit it damages is quite sick if you ask me. It's dark here now otherwise I could show you the door with literally a vertical hole of that arrow through it.

I think a bullet will be my choice if I have to choose between being hit by a single bullet or a single arrow of this kind
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>>64632667
Broadheads are neither supersonic nor expanding.
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>>64638188
Mechanical broadheads are expanding. I guess the closest comparison is a short barreled subsonic rifle.
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>>64632667
I actually hunt small game with one of these. The tiny broadheads will do 3-4ish inches of penetration, very clothing and skin thickness dependent. I typically get a through and through with stuff like hares.

As a self defense weapon it is almost useless except one case: unless they are high AF an abdomen shot will disable almost anyone unless they are wasted or a huge fatty. It will not kill them but they will have the thing stuck in them and if they panic, run or try to fight (or try to take it out) they are going to seriously fuck themselves up. They will probably be hurt enough that they are no longer a threat and will absolutely need a hospital. Almost anything is better but a gut shot with broadheads should work.
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>>64636318
Bows are not perfectly efficient, and they have an upper limit of limb speed, meaning that there is a point of diminishing returns as you reduce weight, i.e. there is a point past which you decrease weight and no longer increase speed, or before that, increase it by less than a worthwhile amount.
Secondly, Energy is not the exclusive overriding factor with penetration even given the same type of contact point, especially in soft mediums. There has been so much study of this phenomenon for over 100 years it's not up for debate.

All that said there'd be no reason to use some dinky pistol crossbow for self defense when compound pistol crossbows capable of putting out projectiles twice the size flying twice as fast.
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>>64638005
>Those hollow points don't really work the same way, they're hollow for balance
Haha yeah totally, it's just a coincidence that they also have vastly superior terminal performance.
>and 5.56's terminal performance is based on fragmentation from velocity anyway
Not really.

What sims/games have good missile design/missile carrier design and combat?
>Aurora 4x
>Rule the Waves 3
>Children of a Dead Earth
Anything else? I want to play around with making/producing/fielding missiles. Preferably the option of making very high end missiles with lots of bells and whistles. Thankfully Aurora has that now with multiple warheads, retargeting, a couple kinds of ECM etc.
I wish there was something like CODE but with a more grand strategic level with production and construction to compliment the design portion.
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>>64640510
Nebulous fleet command has all of that

Nuclear option not really making missile designs but it's a good game with lots of missiles and scenarios.
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>>64640510
>>Children of a Dead Earth
isn't that the book patrick tomlinson made
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>>64640596
That's dead sun isn't it?

I want to chug-jug with you

Previous thread: >>64626089
>image limit reached

https://github.com/rcc11/4chan-sounds-player
>I can hear her singing at me from the pictures... I'm going crazy
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>>64638720
>My little brother is a successful engineering consultant making six figures despite not yet being 25
Damn that’s rough. My cousins are either in the processing of getting STEM degrees or already graduated. One of mine just a few years older than me works as a labor negotiator for defense contractors and got married last year. There’s been lots of success in my family but me and my twin brother seem to be the odd ones out. Neither of us have dated anyone, neither of us seem to intend to, and definitely having not kids. It is what it is though.
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>>64640778
>but I'm not a fan of carry handles..
You can just tell us you’re gay anon
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>>64640777
Teto looks a bit pudgy. NICE
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>>64640778
>I'm not a fan of carry handles
gay
you can just build an A4 though
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>>64640778
carry handle sights get in the way of better optics

but I do wish more rifles had carry handles that came off the side like on the FAL

>>64640800
my first thought when I saw the image
thats why I downloaded it

>>64640791
a tale as old as time
the best thing you can do is support and love your brother
hopefully he feels the same way
jealousy over material shit is poison for the heart, and brothers shouldn't fight

We are investigating the J-8I and J-8II, the slender dragons.
Why did China require an interceptor such as the J-8?
What are the differences between the first and second generations?
What features does the J-8 have?
How significant is the J-8 in the progress of China's military aviation sector?

https://youtu.be/-9QpnotFQN0
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>>64631460
/thread
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You now remember that J-8 variant that they made with US equipment before [event that never ever happened at all]
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>>64629569
I don't think so.
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>>64631470
Grow up.
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>>64631470
i have a feeling the jet in OP's pic is not being touted as an f35 killer

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The 6th one. Talk about Russian submarines, the nuclear military, all that shit. Someone probably has a link to the first 5.
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>>64625446
>>64626382
Rods don't move very fast There was plenty of margin, they never came close to anything serious.
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Bump p
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>>64635397
kek this backdoors a paywall
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bümp
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>>64635747
>>64635414
>well that sucks
That doesn't even begin to describe how bad soviet uranium mines were, there's not much info on them but the account of one writer imprisoned there is beyond grim
>The gulag workers in the uranium mine in Butugychag / Kolyma had a life expectancy of less than a year which seems absurd until you read that the mine was responsible for 380k deaths despite running a decade with peak capacity of 30k
>the physically easiest job was the dryers in the ore processing plant which had only 6 hour shifts compared to the 14 hour ones in the mine proper
>usually those workers did around twenty shifts after which they were sent to a "special treatment area" and left to die of radiation sickness

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Turkish-made Aselflir EO for drones picks up car sized targets from 150 km range and aircraft sized targets from 200 km range

https://x.com/Tactical_Tipu/status/1999778180329357608?s=20
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>>64639904
Maybe now, but they bought Thales stuff for more than a decade during 2012-2022. Maybe even earlier. Literally all of the "new" and "modernized" russian tanks had french thermals. And local stuff was so bad that it wasn't even funny. There were some purchases of "belarussian" thermals, but those were like local assembly of foreign stuff AFAIK.
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>>64634339
Just use yards instead of meters, it's close enough.
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>>64636185
Nothing wring with being late to the party as long as you bring the snacks and booze.
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>>64640199
>>64636185
Norks and Iran as well although their sensors are undoubtedly stolen from someone or at best inferior copies. The Turks having access to Western military sensors without embargoes means it really isn't much of a big deal.
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>>64639990
>>64637502
Ummmm here's a fact you might not know: The US used french thermals (paseo) for the M10.
Now does that mean they can't produce thermals ? No, your argument is weak.
>t. frog who couldn't give less shit about Russia


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