Post gear, discuss gear.Innawoods with doxycycline edition. (Dreaming of Spring.) Old: >>64643979
>>64682566>did they actually ever publish the lab test?I haven't seen the actual lab test, but it's understandable they wouldn't post that since the 2230 was never intended to be sold to civilians. Only reason, from Safariland's perspective, people would need to know that is if they wanted to kill cops. I'll excuse their lack of transparency there. Protech is more reputable than Hesco (a lot more, actually).>that one I posted forever ago, that somehow they never published themselves...Yeah, pic rel. You raise a good point that, for whatever reason, Adept has all these test reports but the only one on their site is for 1x M993. Just one. It is from 8/5/22...>if you throw weight out the window...Rule of thumb with CTAs is that they only eat one hit per tile, so we'd need to make the tiles smaller and that means a weight penalty - see that Turtle Xtreme VPAM-12 plate from a few threads ago. Cheat ringed despite using really good materials because it'd weigh a shit load. Hexagonal tile array, Militech / Tencate Multi-Light style, versus Gillie 8002 rectangular.>I've got two in my closet. only m61 rated though.I am jealous. Is this the GEN1 version where M855 can sneak between pellets or the later steel-sandwich version?>undeniable that at least the backer will be significantly weakened after multiple hits of 30 calOf course. Shot spacing however mitigates that, since it's the ceramic doing most of the work (or at least it should...) and the backer is just catching fragments. The Hesco 4601's mistake is that it relies too much on the thick-as-hell backer to do the strike face's job.>you'll have delamination across most of the plateCan be mitigated if you use better adhesive. >never showing tests with more than 3 rounds of m80Need to use the CPL for this one my friend.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>64682594>I have to remind you that plates, even top-tier ones, are a free-market item within Russia. You just need to find someone to ship them out to you through a third country somehow.Guess they're gonna have to... fly again. Hit the music Vlad.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-BY9HO598w
>>64682566>at $800 per the adept is a mid range plate desuForgot to address this. Per the site it's $640, so $1,280 a set for 10x12. The Gilliam 8002 is $314 a plate, so $618 a set, but is single curve and eats a roughly 2lb weight penalty for the same threats stopped. 8002 is a tile array however and should beat it on multi-hit. For comparison's sake the Hesco 4601 is $900 a set and matches the Colossus on weight / thickness (and with NIJ cert for IV!), but without tungsten threat protection, and it puts on a much worse show against .30 cal AP.I got my Protech 2230s for $354, a set, and you can still buy them from other sources for $450 a set like Gunbroker. They're sketchy on tungsten threats other than really basic, unchallenging stuff like M995, but they're tough as nails otherwise.
>>64682610probably older, not even an interlocking ball desigh, and hybrid poly/kevlar backer.as for modern AP, I can still say, it probably hes the best chance to stop your mentioned threats, out of any civ-sold plate. it did stop SLAP, (v50)picrel: you with that 7.5lb plate
>>64682680>as for modern AP, I can still say, it probably hes the best chance to stop your mentioned threats, out of any civ-sold plate. it did stop SLAP, (v50)Granted, it did that two or three times, but if we're getting engaged by M948 then things have really gone to pot and threats like .338 AP529 are in play. What I would like to see is a TiB2-SiC version of the 8002 that splits the difference between the 8002 and Colossus halfway in cost but beats the Colossus on raw threat level. Similarly, 7.5lb "Heavy Colossus" that stops very hard shit like .338 7N49 and AP529 cold, along with M948 100% of the time. I think Jake's a shady guy (pic rel is his first business address back at Diamond Age - a supplement store in TX) but the strength of the TiB2-SiC he's peddling is undeniable. IMO, that's the future of midweight ceramics as soon as it becomes price-effective from other guys.This is apocryphal and totally anecdotal, but I remember seeing a RUAG presentation showing a Level IV plate losing to M993 at 150 meters, but when backed by doubled-up IIIA M993 could not beat it at all. Worst case scenario, back the 8002 or Colossus with good soft armor to try and shorten the odds.>picrel: you with that 7.5lb plateCeradyne 80571 in the fresh, .50 BMG protective with standoff. Very nice! For the record, my 2230s are 0.8lb lighter than G1 1155s, over a pound lighter than honestly sized Highcom 4S17Ms, and 0.2lb lighter than Hesco 4403s.
Hard mode: No derailing the trainLegendary mode: No killing anyone
>>64680354Rob it? I'm going to have sex with the running gears. I'll probably get my dick ripped off when they throttle up to dislodge me but I don't give a shit, fucked a magic train.
Grease the tracks on a remote uphill section…. Force it to slow down by releasing cows on track. Board train and force engineers to dump steam and water and stop stoking fire…. At that point it’s not going anywhere. Then rob passengers/take goods. Then ride off on horses.. cut telegraph lines as soon as trains in site to prevent calls for help.. pick somewhere that’s a few miles away from anywhere it’s expected and you’ll have a good head start.. finally find place to stash loot in the middle of nowhere and cover your tracks. Wait a year or so before trying to sell or fence the loot
>>64680354It's a magic train run by saint nick.A literal saint, god has given him the power to bring cheer to children and you want to try your hand at robbing his wards?You will be turned into a lump of coal before you even step outside.
>>64681740>I'm going to have sex with the running gears. I'll probably get my dick ripped off when they throttle up to dislodge me but I don't give a shit, fucked a magic train.
>>64682689Who's that guy who writes erotica about abstract concepts?
Still reeling from the sheer retardation of the Battleship proposal, plus that it'll be replacing the DDG(X) project.But the FF(X) looks good. It won't have VLS in it's first flight, but it'll have an established supply chain and available logistics for repair and maintenance. As long as they don't try to make more capable than it needs to be, i think it'll be a good boat.
>>64671899>Yeah, making the first flight pointlessWrong. The Burke class wouldn't exist with this kind of dumb logic.
>>64682418>It could be the Navy just wants to stop putting VLS on anything that isn't a Burke or a Trump. Which is to insane but -- Navy.I would say that's too retarded even for the United States Navy, but then again, we do live in the ultra gay & stupid timeline, so I don't even know anymore, maybe trump will tell the Navy to start putting guns on submarines next.
>>64682548>>64682585It's 2025, you have a web of unmanned pickets with sonars, you don't need a helicopter flying around which can never get close to 100% uptime
>>64682644Better to have both. Don't put your eggs in one basket.
>>64682644You don't need 100% uptime from an ASW helo. If they drop sonobuoys, those sensors stay active for hours at a time, if they get a contact you can then send the helicopter back out, at which point it can use it's dipping sonar to get a firing solution and then drop it's torpedo(s). All things which can be done hundreds of miles away from the ship.You're no different to the "everything is obsolete now because drones" smoothbrained retards that have sprung up over the past few years.
Was the Yugoslav military the 4th strongest military in the 80s-90s before it fell apart?
>>64678450yes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xMDPH_xNio
Not to sound like an ass, but they looked like typical commie cannon fodder
Of course, they were using SKS’s
>>64682406Called papovka. They're still used as ceremonial arms by the honor guard here.May dad used it as a service rifle but he was in a signals unit. Won a shooting competition with it, got a day pass, got drunk and climbed a fence back into the barracks 'to not get in trouble'. He's a humble man so he claims the only reason he won was because he had a well maintained rifle while some of his comrades already had fucked up barrels.He was handed an AK after independence but didn't know how to use it properly. When ordered to fire 'single shots' he went fully automatic, got yelled and told to fire 'single shot' again. Fired a burst again, got yelled at again and had to explain he never used the weapon before. Ended up guarding bosnian refugees at the border for a while.He tells the story everytime he's drunk.
>>64682446>When ordered to fire 'single shots' he went fully automatic, got yelled and told to fire 'single shot' again. Fired a burst again, got yelled at again and had to explain he never used the weapon beforeI'm guessing his assumption was the selector would start small and work its way to auto lol. If I remember correctly, the semi position is at the bottom so panicked soldiers wouldn't slam the safeties down and mag dump mindlessly
688 and P3 I guess
>>64679333kino imagewe need more like that ITT
>>64681820Wow
>>64679333my whole childhood I played the fuck out of this...
>>64681820>hully gully
>>64679333P3 my beloved
Ruger has a shotgun now.
>>64682416Still yes, for the same price I can get a 686 or a 688 with a B-fast stock and not having to worry about paying a smith $200 to slap an adjustable comb on my shotgun. CSMC doesnt mean shit if i dont have my gun fit to me, which is the the actual appeal of a real custom Connecticut shotgun, ya know the whole artisan crafted and custom fit experience? I mean, for 4 grand im almost approaching used perrazi territory, and I can go get those fitted.
>>64682381>>64682454Why would I buy a beretta over a miroku ?
>>64681035A $900 Ruger no1 in .308 and .45-70 for straightwall only states would sell. Same way the Ruger wrangler fills a need for a not terrible cheap .22 plinker a not terrible single shot rifle is desperately needed. I want one just out of autism but a hell of a lot of people would use those for deer slaying Speaking of deerslaying >The deerslayer They brought back the 9mm camp carbine, now we nee the tube fed .44mag
>>64682555Miroku/Miroku made Brownings are great. Pick what suits you.
>>64682555Miroku makes great shotguns. Beretta barrels in the last 10 years have really made them stand out. Awful name, but their steelium and steelium pro barrels are fucking great.
What’s the best gun for hunting polar bears?
>>64682301I would throw a cup of boiling water in his face and hope he fucks off. Obviously you wouldn't want to shoot him unless it was your last resort. It'd be a massive hassle getting the carcass out of the skylight of whatever that is and cleaning up the mess.
>>64679980>ive done something the same way for 100 years and that invalidates the fact a bolt action is outclassed in every single way imaginable vs a semi autokay
>>64682516That's called a window.
>>64682527An open shaft in your ceiling is called a window? Where'd you learn english?
>>64682559Not him but I think he's envisioning a regular window somewhere on the floor/attic the bear is occupying
I refuse to buy CAT because their website and naming scheme is incomprehensible garbage.wtf is this?
a silencer should be a ribless, plain black tube with a name like '5.56-L'. anything else is gaudy
>>64682441the calibers are right there, I don't see what's so cryptic. "556m" isn't much different than "SOCOM556-RC2" or whatever. if they want to have a little fun then I don't care, even if it is corny. either the suppressors are good or they're not
this is everything I hate about modern gun culture in the US
>tries to be funny and offensive>just ends up being awkward and offensivewe've got three more years of boomers and gen-x'er business owners testing the waters with cringe shit like this.
>>64682551My favorite gen-xism is their sudden realization of their irrelevancy and cope posting on facebook about how "college-aged millennials" are in awe about their toughness and growing up independent and shit. The copypasta my seniors post on facebook is fucking gay as shit, but so funny at the same time. I look forward to the day when Millennials stop shitting on themselves and try to pretend we were at all consequential or better than what came before or after. It's going to bu really funny watching picrel try to larp as the greatest generation or some shit.
ZERO round under the firing pin totally and utterly safe, no questions. Pull the trigger? cylinder rotates and fires. The next step is the Walther P99, no potential energy in striker when decocked instant DA fire then goes back to SA. All other pistols are weak slaves, the ammo drives the gun, not the gun driving the ammo. Everything else is trash
>>64675430>to buy one in 45-70I have two BFR's, they are fantastic guns
>>64679966Colts were certainly mentioned often in old newspaper articles.>>Denver, April 26: Mrs. M. V. Sides, a young wife and mother, living at Bijou Basin, while dressing her baby yesterday afternoon asked a visiting friend, Edward Mackey, for his pocketknife. Mackey unbuckled his cartridge belt to get at his pocket when a forty five Colt's revolver dropped onto the floor and exploded, the ball crushing through a chair, the woman's right arm and into her heart, killing her instantly.>The Las Vegas Daily Gazette, April 27 1886>J.L. Houston, a teamster, while on his way to Socorro on Tuesday with his team observed his blankets sliding off his seat. In an effort to replace them his 45 Colts revolver dropped into the bottom of the wagon, and discharging shot him through the right arm close to his shoulder... >The Socorro Chieftain, June 5 1884>F.B. Hart, formerly operator at the Garison house in this city, but for some time in charge of the office at Gibson was brought to the hospital last night suffering from a severe wound caused by an accidental pistol shot. Hart had been out hunting on the river, and when he returned was in the act of laying aside his arms when a Colt's revolver dropped from his belt to the floor, the concussion causing it to be discharged, the ball, a 44 calibre, entered his right leg above the ankle joint, ranging upward breaking both bones, coming out the inside of the calf of the leg near the knee....>The Sedalia Weekly Bazoo, April 14 1885>E. Reyberg, an oyster digger, was accidentally killed at Point Roberts the other day. He was handling a 45-caliber Colt's revolver and dropped it, the weapon being discharged.>Washington Standard Aug. 15 1902Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>64681255>Friday night Ed Dolsen shot and killed Jessie Walton in a bagnio at Pendleton. Dolsen [...] was slightly intoxicated and was flourishing a big Colt's revolver in a reckless manner and dropped it on the floor. Witnesses said it was discharged when it struck the floor, the ball striking the girl in the mouth and passing out the top of her head killing her instantly...>The Kootenai Herald August 19 1893>While out trapping on Red river, below Garland City, on Tuesday of last week, Mr. Sam Arnot dropped his large Colt's revolver (44 calibre) from belt, jar discharging it, and ball passed entirely through his body near the left nipple. He was stooping over, doing something in camp, at the time the accident occurred...>Nevada County Picayune Nov. 20, 1890>A. Reed, well known in and about Titusville, met with a severe accident after returning from the circus Saturday evening. He had just reached home, and while leaning over a window sill, a Colt's revolver of 44 caliber dropped from his coat pocket and was discharged. The ball entered the back of the ankle and plowed its way upward and forward, shattered both bones in the leg, and came out the front where its force was spent and it dropped to the floor...>The Morning News Savannah Ga. January 12 1899>...Laughlin, who is a camp tender for the sheepmen ranging stock in the Blue mountains, with two companions, descended into a deep canyon during the search Wednesday, and while stooping over for a drink, his Colts revolver dropped from his belt to the ground. The hammer struck a rock, exploding the cartridge. The bullet entered just below the heart, passed through the lungs, and out at the back below the shoulder.>The Athena press, July 20 1906
>>64681257>...a servant of one of the officers let a Colt's revolver drop on the floor of the car. It went off, and the ball struck the window....>Prescott Journal Aug 28 1861>George Wilcox, of Kansas City, who is making a tour through New Mexico on his bicycle, yesterday while crossing the Denver & Rio Grande Tracks near Embudo on his bicycle, dropped a 45 caliber revolver out of his pocket, which striking a rail was discharged, the bullet entering Wilcox's head near the base of the brain and coming out of his jaw.>Santa Fe New Mexican June 13 1901>John Morehous, aged 14 years, and a son of Uncle John Morehous of this city, met with a very serious wound yesterday afternoon about 3 o'clock, while riding horseback down to the ranch with Alphonzo Henroid. He handed the latter a Colt's 41-caliber revolver. Alphonzo dropped the weapon, which struck John's knee and exploded, penetrating and shattering the ankle bone. Dr. Miner is attending the wounded member, amputation will no doubt be necessary -- Nephi Courier.>The Salt Lake Herald September 22 1893Now to be fair when I found those references I was looking for historical information about carrying Colts with an empty chamber, so I was specifically searching for the world "Colt".
>>64673757Where's that hammer from?
Could this mask work as a makeshift helmet against an Iron sword?
>>64682049I do look like that.
Considering the cracks, I'll assume best case scenario is that it shatters in the process of saving an eye from one slash.
>>64682049When Georgio Lucas wore this in the gaming video "Monkey Island", Guybrush was unable to engage in a swordfight and so resorted to trickery.
Which caliber is better? Does the shorter length of the .308 while being mostly the same ballisticly make it better, or does the slightly longer length and ability to use heavier grain bullets of the 30-06 make it better?Or is 30-06 better because it sounds cooler and is an American classic?
>>64668424>30-06 for anything heavier than 180 grain.Basically, "this". For the average end user, it does not really matter.
>>64677636Is that a Veracity PH? I have one of those. Mine is the 3-15x version. Love it.
>>64681707No, it's a Fullfield 3-12x42. I'm not too enthused with its optical clarity, but the price was right, it's pretty lightweight for its magnification range, and I do really like the reticle. Maybe I'll upgrade it one day but it got me a deer so I can't complain too hard.
>>64680433It's easy when you live in the place that uses it. It's already irritating enough working on some cars that do happen to have some metric bolts, it'd be 10x worse to just halt literally everything, adjust every form of tooling we have for everything, it's just not a practical proposition.
.30-06 for hunting..308 for accuracy.
A dragon has claimed your city and is snatching up citizens to be part of its treasure hordeHow would you, an ordinary citizen, take it out with only the weapons available to you? It has tough scales, can fly, spew fire, and is large enough to swallow a person whole. What can you do with the weapons and ordinance of a single civilian to kill it?
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>>64676947(NTA)>this is you being toyed with.…and? My nigger, I would extinct continents to be toyed with as a piece of meat.
>>64677475Bingo. Only terachad doesn’t care.I suspect the male desire for violent, degrading, deviant sex also comes from this. You’re trying to probe out of the girl an honest signal of her affection for you, and the amount of discomfort she will endure is a good sign of this. You want it to be the case that she endured the most discomfort with you. Did she do things with others she won’t do with you? Why? Did she care more about pleasing them? You’re comparing yourself to the others who came before you, but you don’t know who they are or what they look like, so it’s hard to gauge what her maximum is. I bet the desire for all this scales with female promiscuity, female SMV, and inveserely with your own SMV. The more of a Chad you are, the more likely it is that you compare favorably to those who came before, so your mind is more at ease. And obviously a virgin girl has done nothing so no need to mog anyone. And the whole point behind all this is that is probably informs her likelihood of cheating on you.
>>64676766Put an 8mm Mauser round down its throat when it opens its mouth and then remove the head with either my Windlass long sword or my Landsknecht Emporium short sword since doing so is allegory to severing the umbilical cord and starting new life.The treasure is allegory for the chosen ancestors' blessing going into the descendant who is also their reincarnation.
>>64681289Never realized the silhouette is a cock.
Post cool swords or swords you like, talawar of Mughal leader Aurugnzeb
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For me it's the estoc. A noble and refined weapon for the peak of the age of chivalry.
The 6th one. Talk about Russian submarines, the nuclear military, all that shit. Someone probably has a link to the first 5.
>>64673169>the absence of spontaneous chain reactions in the first year of operationok, nice>thanks to a number of measures taken at Plant B, SCRs did not ariseso they congratulate themselves because the number of SPONTANEOUS CHAIN REACTION was constant. I thought the only acceptable number was zero but hey I ain't no nuclear scientist...
>>64673236Russian nuclear weapons killed more Russians than American nuclear weapons killed Japanese kek
>>64673246Doing god's work anon. Merry christmas and thanks for these insights into USSR's nightmarish quest for nuclear weapons.
>>64682145>>64673658Got Columms for Game Gear(Better than Tetris), Terminator 2 on DVD, and Donkey Kong Country! I had no lives left, but got to a save point, then beat a boss, than game overed. Will resume work shortly
Paul never used red dots or really any kind of optic. Was he right/wrong?I also miss Paul on another note.
>>64682201No. It is retarded. If you blindly accept the advice of wannabe army men, you will eventually believe that standing square to your target hunched down doing a c grip shooting targets 3 yards away to be the apex of shooting skill
>>64682201literally the only scenario where it really makes sense is if you're going into a room after tossing a flash bang in and you're wearing plates so you want to present the plates >>64675987why use irons at all?
>>64682383GMS!!
>>64682407Shove your red dot up your ass
>>64682421having trouble there, poorfaggot?
