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If you can't carry hollow points, does 45 make sense or it's an obsolete bulky shit regardless?
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>>64664421
I've seen way too many videos of people and things shaped like people walking off 45ACP but you've just ignored those videos your whole life like a lying retard.
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>>64658865
handgun ammo doesnt expand reliably. its a complete meme
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>>64664421
ive seen a video of 45 acp bouncing off a hard piece of plastic
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>>64664421
The way I heard it everybody gets two to the chest. Once In a while it will take three. But (I heard) nobody-but-nobody has ever required more than four. True? Sounds about right.
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>>64664499
I've done it. I've also bounced entire payloads of 3" double ought buck off same shit. Blacktip 30-06 sure as fuck didn't, tho.
But stop think: Are niggers made of acrylic?
I think not. I have seen 'em step in dogshit and think they were melting - so ---> conclusive proof !

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Hey whatever happened all the zombie killing guns and ammunition you know the stuff that was pretty cool back in the day
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>>64663952
I wouldn't worry about it.
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>>64660539
Maybe there was a realisation that the protagonists in zombie media are always the dumbest, most incompetent cunts that can't even cope with sub-animal intelligence threats that are vaguely human shaped. Which can be kind of funny, but I wouldn't want to dress up like a clown because clowns are some funny guys too.
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There's been an Ukraine war zombie movie released this year, The Dam, with soviet radioactive zombies its OK
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>>64660539
OP all guns are zombie killing guns if you use them correctly.
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>>64660539
A few anons realized the true power of the zombie mania when it was happening.

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post photographs of counter-insurgency aircraft
piston engine, turboprop, or jet powered
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>The RoK's existence as a Imperialist puppet regime was a insurgency against the rightful rulers of Korea

It's a COIN aircraft.
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>>64664566
The fact that Vietnam has around 250 of these awesome things sitting in boneyards or mothballed in caves is always a source of amazement.

>the other 95 aircraft would be operated by the Vietnam People's Air Force in missions over Cambodia and during the China conflict in 1979.

>Imagine being a Communist Vietnamese A-37 pilot doing attack missions over a PRC city at night in the 1970s
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>>64662873
Serious question: Do these things even work? Like, on doctrinal level? I mean, it's likely just my own ignorance, but none of these seem to have had any impact to be particularly recognizable. I feel compelled to ask, since it's a bit odd they've (figuratively, but pun intended) flown under my radar.
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>>64664811
>Serious question: Do these things even work? Like, on doctrinal level?
The secret is that they were ordered for low-level military support where it is legally imperative that a Vietnamese officer takes the second seat and directs the actual action.

They work fine for that specific purpose, but got put into storage once the US started actually bombing the shit outta the Vietnamese.
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>>64664811 (me)
Addendum: To be more specific, I mean in a pure counter-insurgency function, disregarding light attack (which can be done by some fighters or trainers) and gunships, which are radically different designs with missions all of their own.

>>64664825
True. Good point.

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It's a Christmas Miracle Edition

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>>64664500
ok but its a good layout and its well-reviewed so maybe stop and reconsider your preconceived biases.
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>>64664513
no
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>>64663813
mlok sucks ass so definitely get a pic rail but fuck midwest industries get a ris ii
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>>64664692
>but fuck midwest industries
why?
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Is the general old wisdom about never shooting 22lr out of a 5.56 silencer still a thing with modern cleaning solutions like Breakthrough that can tackle heavy lead/carbon fouling? I own an RC2, a direct thread .22 silencer and a .22lr conversion bolt and couldn't find any way to stick a direct thread silencer onto a Surefire muzzle device. They have the QD adapter for HUB mounts but nothing for 1/2x28. I was wondering if anyone had any experience with suppressor cleaning solutions on lead fouling in sealed silencers so that I could get away with shooting .22 through them.
>inb4 "just get a 22lr upper"
I'd prefer to keep everything on the same upper so that the ergonomics and shit are the same.

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They are getting their 1st artillery ammo factory thanks to serbian rocket technology.


Does your country help others reindustrialise by selling them its elite tech?


https://thedanishdream.com/news/denmark-to-build-rockets-in-cold-war-bunkers/

According to SkyPro, their rockets are compatible with both Denmark’s new PULS launch system, recently purchased from Israel, and the American HIMARS systems used in Ukraine. The rockets will be produced using Serbian EdePro technology, giving each unit a range of approximately 40 kilometers.


Danish will preform assembly and granate body making while Serbia will supply rocket fuels, warhead and high added value part of the chain. Probably until our danish colleges start making their rocket fuel by our help

Independence class continues to be the goto testbed for the USN when it comes to fielding experimental autonomous/unmanned or high-trade systems.

>The Independence-class littoral combat ship USS Santa Barbara (LCS 32) achieved the historic milestone in the Arabian Gulf while launching a Low-cost Unmanned Combat Attack System (LUCAS).
https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/News-Stories/display-news/Article/4363707/us-navy-in-middle-east-employs-attack-drone-at-sea-for-first-time/

The way I see it, this provides even more asymmetric ability to the ship in the littorals and a long-range ground strike ability which some people have pointed out is missing without the inclusion of VLS cells or NLOS. What say you?

I'm sure the thread will also become a shahed-style drone discussion so that's welcome as well, particularly in the context of launching from or targetting naval platforms.
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>>64662671
>Does anyone who hates the Independence even understand littoral ASW? Genuine question.

Littorial ASW without a hull sonar, preferably a retractable hull sonar? And with a hostile coast? In that ship? Are you daft?
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>>64663416
>Bringing up lack of bow sonar as an end-of-the-line argument is fairly outting.
I don't understand the argument at all since the core component of the ASW is the towed multifunction array and variable depth sonar.
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>>64663650
Okay, lets start with bow sonar is definitionally not towed and thus can't be variable depth.

>>64663642
Litterally point one
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>>64660420
>The development is completed
Sorta. Its true they have one module of it. That said its not at all certified to actually operate on any ships. There is nothing physically stopping them from using it but there's not real certainty it would operate correctly or consistently. Don't expect to see it deployed to the field unless some extreme happens and the USN is looking to pull off a moonshot style operation.
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>>64663416
>Bringing up lack of bow sonar as an end-of-the-line argument is fairly outting. Bow sonar is arguably less useful in a littoral enviroment and (in the modern day) having your ship be your primary sensor platform (in the littorals) is a straight up retarded idea. Use of UUVs/USVs and aerial elements is far superior for a variety of reasons.

The point you inadvertently make here is that thinking you are going to having the perfectly ideal setup every time is totally deranged. You have to account for things going sideways and you end up having to do with an imperfect setup because surprise, the enemy pulled a good move.

You cannot count on the shore being friendly every time. You cannot count on there being no mines. You cannot count on the water being deep enough for your towed array. Are you going to drag it on the bottom, or have it so close to your ship that its affected by ship noise? You cant count on detecting enemy anti ship missiles at 30 km because their radar is in search mode.

The independuncy/freedumb is simply not capable of doing more than gotta go fast. It cannot gun fight other ships. It cannot handle multiple anti ship missiles popping up over an island and diving down on it. It does not have rafted machinery, so it boldly announces its presence to any cowardly sub hiding in the deep as well to any enemy SOSUS array.

The NSC cutter is barely less retarded. What I get from this and other failed projects is that the USN cannot design ships any more. Its incompetence paired with corruption paired with derangement.

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Winter stew at the right time edition

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>>64664781
Any news in the handgun space?

Canada should just buy the KF-21 its a temu F-22A but at least it has the potential to eventually get to 5th generation
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>>64663577
It doesn't need to look good. It just needs to sling some missiles and then catch one to protect the real war fighters. Like a carrier escort.
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>>64663605
There is no coalition, Krasnov antagonizing and being hostile to America's allies means they'll never bother with America again even with a different guy in charge regardless of party.
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>America bad
>thats why we need to trade with china!

Also they'll import a million indians a year then pretend there is some sorta ancestral partnership with europe
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>>64663629
>SK is CHAYNA
Holy fucking retard
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>>64663413
canada will certainly go with the tejas because they want to use a domestic jet.

Let's say the US military decided to adopt a bullpup rifle. Do you think they could improve it to a point that it could surpass the AR15 platform?

I get the impression that it's just a few innovations away from achieving that status. If they could make the triggers match the AR platform it would be difficult argue that it isn't superior.

>inb4 slow reloads, etc.
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>>64662938
Yes the triggers can be shit but that's already sort of solved lol. The dude that makes the 3D-printed AUG conversions (nylaug I think) seems to have halved the trigger weight and made them half the price of the original gun. Honestly after seeing that one aussie cunt sperg the fuck out about bullpups for an hour I think I've come around in the ergos department. With the concession of mag placment, you could easily design an ergonomically superior weapon to the M4, but this will not be adopted or even created for over a century because of the titanic industrial inertia stoner's creation has had over the west for 60 years. Perhaps an illustrated/3d modeled ergo dream gun thread is in order
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>>64664171
apologize
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>>64662997
Three years and six gorillion dollars of Jewgle investment capital and the Biofire, a NORMAL gun that just has an electric lock, is now dead-end vaporware after scamming a bunch of rubes out of their cash. A ELECTRICAL PRIMED gun is a fucking non-starter. It's not happening. Firerms are mature tech and will remain so until someone can shrink a battery small enough to reliably make an electromagnetic mass driver gun that shoots metal bolts at mach-Jesus.
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>>64662938
Can they make one that's decent? Probably.

Is there any reason to when pretty much every weapon system except a basic bitch rifle is going to be replaced by AI trained drones? No.
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>>64662938
>Do you think they could improve it to a point that it could surpass the AR15 platform?
No. It's backwards and that's retarded.

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>inb4 stolen ones

Okay, I get that. But if I were to search some gypsy hovel, what stolen guns am I most likely to find? Are they fond of any particular models?
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>>64660030

Which English speaker decided that a polite way to call Gypsies was Roma is fucking retarded.

Romania has 2 main ethnic groups the Dacian/Romans ( the descendants of the ancient romans mixed the local dacian tribes) and the Gypsies which arrived way later immigrating all the way from northern india. They have no descent from Rome so called them the Roma is retarded. At least they should call the normal Romanians Roma and the Gypsies Indias
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>>64663860

The very term Gypsy is derived from Egyptian, owing to the misconception in the 18th Century that they had come from Egypt.

Interestingly enough, the German slur for them, Zigeuner, is literally derived for the word for "poor" in Turkic languages.
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I always include "Jews, overt homosexuals, AND Gypsies were rounded up, taken off the streets, removed from Public Life, and put in Kamps by the Nazis".

IMO it adds helpful context into what the Nazis were trying to accomplish in Europe, especially for Europeans that have a noticeable Gypsy presence. :)
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>>64660030
Here are the guns that were used in a firefight between two gypsy groups in a bar in Finland last year.
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>>64664792
Whoops, forgot picture.

>General Freuding
>Always freudig
How does he do it?
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I would trust this guy to save my entire race.
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>>64661433
lmao good one
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>>64661757
>>64661433
And THAT'S how I lost my General Lieutenant commission. HAHAHAHA.

Anyway, where were we Mr President...
planning your COIN campaign, let's just put a few little filtering brigades around these population centres here.
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>>64663243
Besides both being lanklets, Farin Urlaub does not look anything like General Freuding.

Frigatebros, We are SO back!

https://dsm.forecastinternational.com/2025/12/19/new-frigate-on-the-horizon-u-s-navy-ditches-constellation-class-for-national-security-cutter-design/

https://youtu.be/mFBoBAllLAg?si=YOKHRngMPgBWP7ZG

Baseline design is utilizing the Legend Class Cutter with a goal of the first hull in the water by 2028. Wonder how many VLS it will get, and if it will get Aegis.
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>>64656003
Yeah
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>>64664271
>my 90's era proprietary systems are a giant hassle to deal with

No fucking surprise, standardize and modernize
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>>64664301
>Shh
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>>64656554
cloud is un-secure.
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>>64664228
>You are an idiot speaking on things you do not know about. Shh

Hes right. Military software is written in ADA, and requires a programmer with a security clearance. Lots of programmers with security clearances actually. The computing hardware in a 1990s cruiser is solidly obsolete even if it works just fine. Porting your software to modern hardware is much easier than to write it again.

What's the practical difference between them? I thought jhp is more popular in handguns and jsp is more popular in hunting rifles because higher velocity allows simplier bullets to expand reliably but seems like there is quite a lot of handgun jsp ammo.
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>>64661826
As you said, it's generally a matter of expansion, velocity and penetration. JSPs expand less and thus penetrate more, which is desirable for hunting big game or barrier penetration. This is also true for rifle bullets. They often employ complicated means like bonding, partitioning or choking the core to limit expansion and core seperation and gain penetration. This is just a means to tailor bullet selection to your target.
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>>64661848
This. Bullets exist in a spectrum. At one end you have bullets that are designed to not expand at all even when striking hard materials like armor, i.e. AP bullets with tungsten or hardened steel cores. Next you have bullets designed not to expand, but they're not tough enough for use against armor, i.e. "Solids" for dangerous game or FMJs. Then you've got various kinds of semi-expanding bullets with lots of different designs--bonded, partition, blah blah blah. Then when you get to the other extreme you have very quick-opening hollowpoints like varmint bullets, and frangibles. Depending on what you were shooting you'd pick a bullet design with the correct amount of expansion.
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Are there any jurisdictions where JHPs are banned but JSPs are legal? (thinking mostly about handguns)
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>>64664452

New Jersey.

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>>64663314
Holy retard
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>>64663251
F35 is such a fat ugly plane when viewed from the x-axis but her tummy is so fucking delicious especially when her rear is also in view. I also love asian women btw
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>>64663251
DAE LE MUH SEXO BELLY ???

DAE????
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>>64656856
I am Alexander Ivanov from Texas Oblast and I am demoralized
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>>64656131
Japan needs to focus more on hentai style nose-art (in RAM coating dyed in different colors) as we speak.

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60km long fiber optics spools for FPV drones being built right now. Does this mean that FPV drones literally outrange all ATGMs and most artillery that are in service right now?
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>>64663363
Wait till you look up how humans drive lmao
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>>64664115
Signal loss isn't the important metric, anon
You can literally just boost the input signal, and it wouldn't be a factor in flight because you're already sending the signal throughout the entire loop even before the drone takes off
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>>64663647
Missiles are orders of magnitude more expensive and can't do the maneuverability
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>>64661490
Now imagine the kino if this was mounted to a refurbed and unmanned M3 / 5 Stuart...
VGH...
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>>64663976
They fall down under their own weight like leaves. It is very impostant to make spools with as low friction as possible.


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