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is there any reason why hsts tru-transgirls gravitate towards relationships with misogynistic dynamics? genuinely kind of curious cause i see it so often and even i myself have sorta fallen into it despite being entirely revolted by the concept before i met my bf

it doesn’t seem to happen with transbians in my experience so it’s not a wholly trans thing either
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assimilation entails acceptance of misogyny
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>self-hating trans women with incel tendencies try to be misogynistic caricatures of women
truly one of the great mysteries of our time
i hope i live long enough to see it solved
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>>40962893
>is there any reason why hsts tru-transgirls gravitate towards relationships with misogynistic dynamics?
There's no empirical evidence of this, the premise of your thread is faulty. Unless you're a lesbian who considers any heterosexual relationship to be misogynistic. Fuck off
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>>40962893
>does happen to hussies
>doesnt happen to transbians
isn't it just bc men are this way?

also, it's not just hussies, all trannies tend not to have much self-respect
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>>40962910
i agree but it feels like they end up in even more misogynistic relationships than the average cishet couple. it’s not just that by dating men as women they end up entangled in a misogynistic power dynamic but they seem to actively seek out or attract those who are significantly more likely to push for that kind of dynamic
>>40962912
i don’t think they try to fulfill misogynistic ideas of what a woman is, or atleast most cases don’t.
>>40962919
>empirical evidence
i’m sorry my tttt thread doesn’t meet your rigorous academic criteria for discussion
>>40962922
i mean that it’s men is definitely a part of it, i guess it could be a lack of self respect ig

...fuck.
previous: >>40836388

Goal of the thread: I will not be fucked with that today.
Daily goals can be repeated. Remember to keep score, it can only go up!

>What is this thread for?
Getting better is hard, and sucks. A lot. It does not get easier doing it alone.
Share resources and experiences with combating depression, anxiety, personal issues, achieving or maintaining a healthy weight, etc.
>Why is this thread /lgbt/?
Struggles with mental and physical health are an indisputable part of /lgbt/ life, be it from dysphoria, social pressure, heartbreak, or just unfortunate lifestyle choices.
>Notes to consider:
Please be civil. Shame is your greatest enemy in fighting urges of self abuse (be it sh, drugs, or just self deprecation). Relapsing into bad and unhealthy habits is to be expected, the goal is to increase the average amount of time it takes between relapses. Any improvement is a victory no matter how small. Your worth and right to get better are non-negotiable. And most importantly:
WE ARE NOT THERAPISTS, WE DON'T REPLACE MEDICATION
>Note on advice

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>>40884987
This weekend was a total bust for productivity, at the very least I'll be able to get my sleep schedule back on track so there's that at least.

How are you all doing?
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>>40962458
started getting sick on thursday, proper sick on friday, weekend's been a wash so far, but maybe I'll be able to do a load at the place I'm catsitting at for the last day so I don't have to deal with the usual housemate disaster at my place
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Certain cumulative events in my recent life plus the unevenness of my own have made me realise transitioning was a mistake. I’ll silently stop and come out of it stronger. Better. It was a slight mistake nothing I can’t fix.
Thanks for the years in and out everyone. Cya
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>>40962453
it literally says it on the wasitband.....
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>>40962453
Element stuff I got $6 for a 3 pack at ross

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why is transphobia so normalized? why is it acceptable to attack us just for existing?
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social progress will never overcome genuine uncanny valley effect
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>>40962850
You lot are just ugly that's why.
Your existence hurts the eyes of everyone else.
Just do a favor for everyone and rope.
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>>40962850
Fascists require scapegoats to distract themselves from their own weakness
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because people are shameless
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>>40962850
Social process went from “accept others for who they are” to “everyone is valid except white peoples”
Don’t expect white people to now give you mercy as the people who own the media and major companies turn on you for your support of Palestine

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>>40958973

qott: Are you more into legs, butts, or boobs?
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>>40961143
sorry to hear that
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>>40961054
Qott: Boobs
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imagine introducing this to your mom
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>>40961743
I cannot!
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>>40961054
Boobs.
I want to drink from a transgender women's lactating breasts.

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There are hundreds, if not thousands of "femreppers" across the globe who are ovulating right now, this very minute they are BEGGING to have an egg attach to their uterus - but the men around them are not giving them what they deserve.

Makes me weep at the very thought.
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>>40959582
medically mtf but i just identify as agender
gender is a waste of my time and it's a performance... in this case, clearly for the male gaze
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>>40959760
obnoxiousgender
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ovulating???
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>>40961158
Ovulating~
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>>40959946
that best describes the performative gender in the video

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>ftm showers me with excessive amounts of sexual attention
>then randomly ghosts me
why?
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>>40962837
not at first. he was initiating all the time.
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>>40962841
He's probably just the kind of mentally ill that can't maintain relationships
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>>40962854
depressing.
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>>40962875
He might come back if you're patient
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>>40962885
thank you anon. i'll try not to get my hopes up though. it was nice of you to talk to me while i'm feeling down about this

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autistic trans girl.
how are u :3
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>>40960447
who
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>>40955179
what?
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>>40959326
the convo starting from here made me feel a little better :) i like these once in a while moments where people spread genuine kindness on this site
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what is this reddit thread
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Rough I want to be held so fucking badly

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Whenever you bring up misandry to cis women they completely lose their minds at the concept and think you are basically an incel rape terrorist or something but when cis women transition to men they instantly understand it and it makes them suicidal and shit. A good amount of men, likely a substantial majority in the west at least, can understand misogyny and empathize with it but cis women completely lack this ability, I think this points to a major issue with cis women's ability to empathize with others, cultural of course not implying this is a biologically determined issue. Do you think this provides some explanation for the rise of TERFdom? A common theme running among TERF discourse is just a complete inability to recognize the completely obvious fact that transwomen are far more socially marginalized than cis women are, even rightwingers typically recognize this with their focus on transwomen being essentially just a variety of mental retard in need of corrective medical intervention to dispel the mental illness. Its really only cis women that have this bizarre pernicious inability to empathize.
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>>40961655
What are the most obvious lies women tell?
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>>40953973
Do people not remember that incels also hate men too? Specifically the "Chads" who get all the girls they would want?
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>>40953973
a lot of women are like billionaires, they don't know what it's like to be poor, and they don't want to know.
Their existence is people appealing to them for no other reason than the fact that they're a woman.
Even fat women have the ego of a Fortune 500 suit.
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Misandry is entirely fictional and is the male equivalent of white women co-opting minority identities for back pats
4chan is so out of touch with history though so I don’t expect it to reach anyone
If you genuinely think you’ve come across an instance of misandry, you were actually dealing one of these
>misogyny
>child abuse
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>>40960741
This is how I know you never girlmoded in public
The random men in your isolated life are very much a threat and are ripples of that worldwide misogyny

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what do you call it when you're mtf but spiritually ftm.
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>>40959362
agamp
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>>40959362
delusional
you never experienced sexism, and you don't wish to have a penis yet lack one
you are not welcome
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>>40959362
A regular man
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>>40959362
What does “spiritually ftm” entail for you?
I’m guessing most ftms are not even spiritually ftm.
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>>40959362
Isn't MtF, someone who is sex male but spiritually female, so they transition to align that?

I found a boy who likes me, time to love bomb him with constant affection until he is totally emotionally dependent and attached to me
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And then ghost him... right?

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the first time i felt flustered was when a guy held my face and called my lips soft looking. i have been with multiple women and none of them gave me this feeling even though i am sexually attracted to women. i don't get it, i could sum it up as bisexual but i think the definition can me more detailed
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>>40962725
less bi, more gay than you think
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>>40962725
Yeah, society is all brainwash. If you feel it, you feel it. Less "Socially acceptable" and more "What makes you happy and aroused", anon
>>40962806
psst, anon, I don't think OP knows this yet

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i cant cut myself or kill myself because i was stupid enough to make people and animal care about me.

im tired of this tranny existence and its too much for me. my flesh prison disgusts me daily and i cannot tolerate it well at all. if im left alone with my thoughts it takes no longer than 10 minutes for my mind to find itself enthralled with the idea of ending my life.

in the past week alone ive thought about
hanging myself
shooting myself
taking a bunch of pills
ziptying a bag over my head and ziptying my wrists
slicing my wrists open in a warm bath
jumping in front of a truck
jumping off a building
driving headfirst into traffic or an immovable object

why am i so creative with these methods? why cant i be creative in ways to improve my life or cope better with trannyshit?
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>>40962726
Cute but I'm not there mentally I got too lucky.
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>>40962729
:(
i wish i wasnt so against sh.
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>>40960217
take new pictures ffs
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>>40962763
so this nigger can harrass me better?
no thanks.
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>>40960217
What a manly face
Looks like my old HS friend tim

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Every single mtf I've ever seen in real life walks, talks, and moves like a man. Bar none.
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>>40961901
Honestly pretty neat you take such dedication to something like fashion
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>>40961901
>but everyone says I don't
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>>40961925
It's my one and only real hobby and I recommend sewing for everyone. especially for the sake of longevity and sustainability. and if you get good at it you might not ever have to buy fast fashion again!
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>>40961940
What is your point? I'm just reflecting my life experiences. I just look androgynous and I always have.
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>>40960814
If trannies actually put any effort into passing as women, they would be respected. But they don't bother at all.

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>dysphoria-less people who didn't have a solid innate sense of self of themselves as the opposite sex from the start, who dislike some or all of the effects of hrt for any other reason than anti-trans social pressure, who detransition and try to drag one of the most hated minority groups into greater difficulty, or project the idea that because trans wasn't a thing for them, it's not a real thing for anyone else, who get listened to by cis people more than we do, who policed the trans community into accepting them in the first place before later complaining that they were affirmed, who don't believe people are born trans in the same way people are born gay and cite their experience as proof, people for whom being transgender was always gender ideology instead of something instinctual you felt in your bones before words so you can only think the rest of us are acting according to an ideology too

I know we're supposed to just chant something like "some people detransition and that's perfectly okay and valid! Everybody's journey is different and we should just support each other!", but I seriously struggle with this. I genuinely can't get over the idea that I've had this singular wish/desire/obsession/CURSE for as long as I've had a sense of self and have known with the same certainty now as 16 years ago when I was a kid that I wanted to be the opposite sex and have had what feels like the entire world and every structure of meaning try to push back and stop me from this single thing the whole way...
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>>40962643
Sorry for trying to grift you
ill make up for it by donating and giving all my things to real traumatized trans people in hopes their lives get better
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>>40962654
>ill make up for it by donating and giving all my things to real traumatized trans people in hopes their lives get better
You don't have to do that just umn... live a normal life, occasionally voice support with reason. Idk. You don't need to live a life of hating yourself or something we don't want that for you, we just want to be accepted by people in general.
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>>40962693
ok
ill try my best
I hope trans people live their lives too, free and real
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binary trans women are so fucking annoying i swear to god
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>>40962853
You literally just sound like a guy who finds women annoying but you're just attaching "binary" to it so it's *progressive* instead of regressive tbhon.

will trans people ever reach the heights of mysticism that we had in ancient societies? will we ever again be seen as carriers of divine knowledge and a wider realm of human experience due to our experience as both genders? will we once more be powerful advisors offering council and guidance to all including the ruling class? or will we forever be stuck in this sort of absolute retardation? the “puppygirl” shit, the “boymoder” shit the “flamer drag queen” shit. all of it is so embarrassing and below us and yet we root around in this culture muck like pigs.
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>>40962758
Only if we bring back gatekeeping.
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>>40962758
this >>40962784
gatekeep so hard it once again becomes underground and real
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>>40962784
Gatekeeping created Susan‘s place hons who think DIY will kill them and getting a botched SRS is going to turn them into a woman. Only by making trans something that‘s almost fashionable did we get actually cute young trans people who are mentally stable, pass/stealth and are respected in their communities. You lot don‘t understand that gatekeeping transitioning and socially isolating an entire group of people invites degeneracy like nothing else. Have fun with your mentally-ill diaper hons and boomer sissies, because they‘re the only ones willing to undergo a 24/7 humiliation cuck therapy before being granted their hondoses.
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>>40962827
no
we need to gatekeep the social aspects of it
but make hrt practically casual


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