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>mom and sister want to protect me from womanhood
>socially conscious women view being nlog as some patriarchal abberation
>womanhood is simultaneously beautiful and constantly suppressed by patriarchal influences
i really want to kill myself i will never ever be a woman and even though i pass people know i was born with these genitals, with no intersex condition. im inherently missing something. ill be abused but whenever i think or speak or act it will never meet the same abuse women have suffered
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(cont.) ill never ever ever be like joan. ill never be like her. and she was gods most faithful and wonderful follower. she had a resillient spirit and a beautiful heart and ill never be like her. it drives me crazy
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>male pornography
What's that? Like... gay sex? And you watch porn come on you should know by now futa women can penetrate. It's mostly just cis people and fags who assign penetration = woman
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>>40932673
no just very masculine drawn pornogrpahy and fetishes that tend to be very masculine in nature. i get that men or women dont have separate brains but also we're supposed to be inherently violent because of social conditioning. im scared. i feel so disgusting and no matter how my body changes im just disgusting and male. everyone believes in this essentialism. if anyone finds out about my birth sex i know theyll see me as some freak
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>>40932698
How long have you been on E?
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>>40932722
three years. im offsetting it with progesterone because i have body dysmorphia and want to gain weight (its been working). and ive been really trying to be happy with being a man even if my close friends/strangers see me as female. being a gay male lets me get away with agp stuff like wearing sanrio merch wrong. i mean its weird but theres no preconcieved notion of me trying to invade anything.

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Im a uk tranny and looking to go to a European country late september and ideally go raving with trannies there which countries are good for this
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>>40932432
come to berlin
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>>40932432
Just go to Berlin. Its ideal for what you want.
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>>40932460
Typical American response. Wrong, useless and retarded.
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>>40932520
>>40932756
it is kinda impossible to find a decent apartment in berlin as a non berliner though tbdesu
at least i couldnt manage to find one fast enough after i got kicked out by my partner
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>>40932432
Germany, Berlin

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Only cis straight women like these guys, but then trans women and cis men have this kind of rabid hatred for them for some reason?

Like you'd never in a trillion years see some MTF going crazy over some Kpop dude.
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>>40929850
they are hot but id prefer if they had slightly longer hair and tats
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>>40931705
Backstreet boys were all ugly old men except nick. White men cannot be that pretty and feminine, too much ooga booga
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>>40929850
I'm mtf, was big into kpop, visual kei and asian aesthetics in 2019, and I think Taehyung from BTS is one of the cutest men in the world. He's so handsome I want to cry sometimes while looking at him. I even wish I could at least look like him if I'm not able to pass.
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>>40931777
I like the short kpop hairs. Asians have so thick and beautiful hair texture
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i wish i could be beautiful like this

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Do women control the narrative?
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>>40931067
Not gonna lie anon all this kinda nonsense...misandry isn't going to get you passed up for a job, and circumcision? Isn't that religious people shit? And homophobia perpetrated by women... In my opinion is very minor (and usually directed at cishet doods).
If they "control the narrative" you need more heavy hitting stuff than this.
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>>40931067
Who is stopping you from talking about it? Nobody. People might have opposing views but thats normal. Nobody can take away your voice
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>>40930458
i wish
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>>40930458
Always have.
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>>40930458
Do you mean real women?

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Why is that when an incel troons out, they stop being an incel, takes care of their appearance/behavior, has lots of sex and becomes politically progressive?
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>>40931969
Holy shit I felt this.

I used to be really happy and indifferent to the fact that I was a man. I didn't have that much sex but I did go on dates with at least three or four different women on the last two years, had a good friend group who's left leaning, and things were looking up.

Fast forward to my trooning out and I'm now a resentful borderline fash individual. Everyday of my life for the last three months have been spent being either really sad, or really angry for no particular reason. I ghosted all of those four girls who I mentioned before, and have been drifting away from my friend group a little bit more each day because their politics now kinda disgust me and I don't want to hear about how "valid" I am for being a dysphoric male.
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>>40930178
>posts antisemitism any chance you can do
yea nah, also I don't even believe you are hsts
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>>40931669
Lack of sex makes people desperate. So it goes. Were they always gay deep down? Perhaps, I’m just saying what’s been noted as having been discussed
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>>40930281
You would let a trans woman raise your children? Bio mommy would get the full custody in a heartbeat
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>>40930158
The number one reason for all forms of terrorism is the society they're part of not serving their needs but having no option to escape. Incels need sex of course, but they also need love and understanding and companionship. All of those are things that women are given freely. Once they become women they have no more need to terrorize society and can actually become contributors to it. All that remains is some basic sympathy for the guys they had to leave behind and the quiet acknowledgment that our Sicily order is deeply unfair. The rage is gone because they no longer have to suffer that unfairness.

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A thread for all those who live in /pnw/. We have a diverse culture of LGBTQIA+ indivuduals here, such as:
>transbians
>diaper transbians
>polycule diaper transbians
>theyfabs
>transbians
QOTT: Are you a transbian?
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>>40930302
>qott
no im a chopped homosexual male with a disgusting estrogen fetish and i need to be put down
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any Canadians? BC feels so desolate
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im not a transbian im a chaser on estrogen
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>>40931725
Suck my gock, dude.

At what point during voice training do you start using your tranny voice around your friends?

Maybe im being a retard but do you wait until its passable? Do I just tell them "Oh guys btw Im going to sound like a weird faggot from now on" Im so lost, I need the practice during conversations but like either way im just going to look like a freak to them arent I
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>>40932420
Thats made me happy to read, thank you
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>>40932428
I like already feel uncomfortable talking like that to my friends, id actually rather rope than do it with strangers
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>>40932464
even with random people online?
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>>40932474
Yeah, I dont really like talking to random people that much normally
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>>40932375
I honestly still don't even talk with a some acquaintances if i feel like they'll give me shit for it despite the fact my voice passes well enough anons here will say so. So fwiw you're not alone in feeling like it's awkward and scary, you could literally have a mostly passing voice and still be like
>uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh idk if i want them to hear this
>they might mock me
>or even just feel uncomfortable and like I'm creepy...

I'd say just see if u have any (mutual / group) friends u feel could have your back and just sorta talk about these exact feelings with them. Especially say, after getting your voice good-enough at least in recordings and making it clear u won't cry if they feel it's bad and just wanna avoid it being annoying / unnatural sounding. That way first u know at least a couple friends are okay w/ you and can help give u support, then you swap when those friends think ur starting to do alright or aren't annoying, and ofc it could always have some awkwardness with some people (see: me rn) but >>40932420 starts to apply so hard.

Picel is vivian musk posing at a drag show. I really like her, but can someone explain why so many trannies hang around places like drag shows, waving the flag? It feels like this board is the only place who wants to actually transition, and not just be a fag in a dress? Or are normie trannies really ok with being put in the same category as a drag queen lol?

Please do not reply if you are anything but a mtf as I don't care to hear nor value your opinion. Thanks xo
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>>40932665
To many now trannies drag was our first safe outlet, it kinda works as a coping mechanism as well, you get to do something with your feminity instead of burying it inside. That's how I treated it, at least as long as it worked as a cope, all copes are doomed to fail eventually.
But it can also be confusing, I know some queens who didn't even realise they're trans until later on because they couldn't fully comprehend what's actually going on, why they had that nasty feeling that didn't go away, but got less severe while in drag.
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Flamers defending drag queens as trans "allies", this board has gone completely to shit.
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It's basically minstrelry. From what I've seen, no shade to queens, it's a way for young impoverished queer people to earn extra cash and have a community. It's sad that they have turn to clown shows to do that and I'm not gonna be all yass queen slay about it because it's fucking annoying and cringe. The first time I went to an event someone gave me cash to hand to the queen during her number because "you have to do it". It's such a ritualized performance.
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>>40932719
>It's basically minstrelry. From what I've seen, no shade to queens
Drag shows are in fact clown shows, drag queens, as in the personas they put on, are in fact a type of clowns, everyone within their community understands that. It's basically like mimes, jesters, and conventional clowns, one big clown family.
But what many fail to understand is that the queens, the gays behind the persona and not the persona itself, are different/separate persons from their clown personas.
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>>40932628
/THREAD

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>literally one of the most accepting places in the world for trannies
>MUH TERF ISLAND REEEEEEEEE
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>>40925366
Year, reference, who made this? This is some manipulative ms paint map used to further retarded agendas. I could say this is a map of people that answered yes to Portugal being a Slavic country by the distribution of the values.
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>>40925437
>bare faced self acknowledged projection onto all of humanity
Worst gaslight skill check I can recall
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>>40925366
>posts of a pic of 2015, the literal peak of trans acceptance

OP where have you been the last 10 years?
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>>40925366
>Passing UK tranny 10 years into transition
Its free as fuck here ngl. Just dont be poor or a lateshit.
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>>40925366
I don't need to check the source to know it's obviously outdated.

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Previous >>40915408

• Help, advice, guidance on meds and dosages
• HRT related medical experiences and research
• Availability and pricing of medications
• Rational and scientific discussion

See following post for a pharmacy list.

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>>40931820
At this stage I can't even tell if you're serious or not..
Please stay far away from hormones.
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is there any real different between een ev ec aside from dosign frequency? reading language like "higher peaks" etc makes me scared my een wont be as effective as if i had chosen ec or ev
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>>40932517
</3
:(
I just want to look more feminine naturally..
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>>40930718
>blood tests
They're in the OP's resources.
▶ Blood tests (US): https://www.privatemdlabs.com/, https://www.labsmd.com/
▶ Blood tests (UK, Ireland): https://www.medichecks.com/
▶ Blood tests (Canada Only): https://bloodtestscanada.com/
▶ Blood tests (Sweden): https://werlabs.se/
▶ Blood tests by mail: https://www.letsgetchecked.com/
>what about ppl like hrtwinks or femboys? They seem to have relatively small breasts, plus if I'm taking a low dosage it won't grow so much right?
I can tell you that after only a few months, I got breasts that require a sports bra to hide, and that was on a dose that I made too low by mistake. How much or how little you grow breasts is very dependent on your genetics.
>>40931820
That drug is raloxifene. It inhibits breast growth but I don't know anything about it and I don't know anyone on this board who has claimed to use it long term
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>>40932581
If you really want to be feminine and take HRT forever but don't want breasts, you should plan on getting top surgery later.
But yeah, microdosing isn't really a thing. You can't pick and choose what happens. A low dose only slows everything down, but everything still happens simultaneously.

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>be me
>boymoder, 8 months on hrt
>spend my days doomscrolling, trying to cope with tfwnobf
>one evening i meet a boy on discord
>he's cute smart, creative, capable, sweet and we have common interests, basically a perfect man
>lives quite far away but it's manageable
>we click instantly
>we spend hours, talking late into the night about life, games and random stuff, sending each other memes and images
>he wants to date me
>i decide to be honest and tell him i'm trans
>ready to get ghosted
>"it's okay!"
>although he doesn't really understand what "being trans" pertains
>asks me a lot of dumb questions
>doesn't matter, i'm just glad that such a nice man accepts me

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bpd tranners are worth loving
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>>40929727
Just general therapy
DBT on it's own won't fix you, you need to understand all your core beliefs, triggers, maladaptive copes and where most of it originated.
A hugely important thing is learning to meet the feelings that arise in you with compassion. You have to imagine yourself as a dear friend. If they were distressed you wouldn't tell them "Stop it, that's stupid or whatever." It seems small and unimportant but once you start meeting these emotions with care and safety, and you practice that every day, even the days you feel good; you eventually stop externalising all your worth.
It's a long road to recovery. And you will need to practice these things deliberately probably for the rest of your life (that's where I'm at at the moment) but over time the 0-100 freak out stuff and the painful attachment stuff goes away and your world will get a lot bigger.
Good luck anon
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>>40930032
I'm doin well these days ty for wishing me well. I hope you're good too
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>>40930075
ty fren
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FACT CHECK: BPD isnt real and is just a diagnosis given to traumatized women who have proven too difficult for some doctors to treat especially in group settings
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I LOVE YOU L

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I peruse this board once in a while, had something happen to me that’s got me feeling a bit melancholic. Wanted to tell someone abt it but can’t say it to any one irl because I keep my shit in the closet. So you fags can read it instead

>be me
>in uni
>living in dorm
>bored out of my mind
>room mate is a stoner / loser who is always out with his junkie buddies
>dorm next to mine has a normal dude and a shorter skinny Peruvian boy
>everyone else is ordinary and forgettable
>go to a party this one time, full of shitheads and is boring
>about to leave
>bump into Peruvian boy
>he spills a cup of something onto my shirt
>cuss him out
>he just timidly apologizes while not making eye contact

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bump for OP, pls post more greentext
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>>40928297
>i didnt desire him for being weak and fragile. i didnt even desire him to start with. it was more so the opposite. i was just mad at him. how can a guy be so weak? how can a guy be so submissive? it pissed me off that he would timidly do everything i told him to do. it wasnt just the body. even his mind was so opposite to mine..

sooo you wanna see him get more confident and stuff?
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>>40930811
I don’t know. I just want to see him again. It’s just ugh. Man. I miss him.
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Peruanooooo.
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i wish i was meek and quiet but growing up with my retarded family where the literal only way to get people to listen is to shout and be aggressive broke me, i cant handle being loud so i just have anger issues now

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it ain't easy being a bottom chaser
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>>40932566
sounds like fun

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Is this true of you, trannies?
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>>40918818
That's fake news spread by destiny
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>>40918878
>Where's the lie
Your brain is small and smooth if you accept any of those assertions at face value.
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>>40932666
He just posts ragepost on twitter. His overall point is that some people use their marginalized identities in leftist circles to shield themselves away from criticism
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>>40918868
He's pretty much telling the truth about first world unions supporting imperialism. Read history. But whether that means we have to stop unionizing is a whole other issue.
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I think there's plenty of criticisms to be made about white trans people that DOESN'T directly attack their validity... Especially since it's 3x easier for an unremarkable white person to pretend they are Audhd, have OSDD, or claim they are a starseed indigo child than medically transition.


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