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/lesgen/ is the lesbian general for all cis women and trans women (MtF) to discuss lesbian relationships and topics.

Be kind to each other and report/ignore trolls who attempt to divide trans mtf lesbians and cis lesbians as a community. This includes transphobic bigotry, femmephobia, butchphobia, racism, and anti-c4t/t4t slop. This is nice thread. :)

QOTT
>Did you have any positive examples of a romantic relationship to look up to growing up?
>Have you ever moved to a new city for a fresh start? Where would you move to if you could?
>Would you protect your GF from ICE or do you not love her?

tagmap: https://tagmap.io/tag/%2Flesgen%2F
discord: https://discord.gg/bAnVMAGPNR
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like I can't focus on the story because this bitch has jiggle boob physics
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>>42351747
can't stand these objectifying borderline misogynist games, wuthering waves is worse but i still hate genshin. anime games were a mistake
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>>42351813
look up brown dust 2 and look at their ultimate animations
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>>42351947
absolutely despicable, horrid, vile, heinous, detestable
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Some nona should play deadlock with me tbqh

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Britain teaching terf ideology in schools now
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>>42351282
Well no matter what I say you'll either ignore it or claim it's a lie so I might as well have fun joking at your expense.
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>>42351114
AGPs play up nothingburgers as though they were practically female already before they stepped foot in a gender clinic.
Your voice didn't break? Well, that's not what intersex people tend to lead with when describing weird shit that their bodies did. You could've had a great singing career. Or you could've gotten on TRT. Yet you instead ran to the gender clinic. Curious.
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>>42351279
Usually in the form of christcuckery or pearl clutching.

>>42351311
>How dare trannies want to transition!
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>>42351192
Your mom is lying. In my bed. In ecstasy.
>>42351279
Oh yeah I know. The TERFs consider it a major strategic goal to ensure all MTFs look like ugly men because they realize people are sympathetic towards passoids.
>>42351311
There is no correct answer as to what to lead with, because you're a disingenuous asshat.
I hope you AGpee yourself today.
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>>42349341
>I suffered so everyone else has to suffer
Zero gain

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I have a problem... iv been in a relationship for 2 days now, and... i feel like its not as fun as it was back then at day 0 to 1. My dopamine levels arent high at all rn.
This isn't fun....
What im saying is...im sorry but i need to break up.
Please dont flirt with me anymore. You're free to visit my threads but i have to move on. Life goes on. The world keeps turning.
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Dopamine isn't real, it has literally nothing to do with what pop media says about it. You're rationalizing your avoidancy issues with pseudoscience and you should know better.

Sorry if you're getting harassed though.
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>>42352273
Wonderfully written........ harlot -_-

>>42352396
I disagree... i think avoidance is the real meme. Its all just dopamine. Im addicted to fun. Okay, i am a bit scared of connection. Okay, a lot. But
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>>42352514
No, it's not, because dopamine doesn't even translate to fun neuroscientifically speaking. My point isn't some philosophical mentalism it's the fact that media objectively does not understand (and has am impetus to mislead) the role of dopamine and what "fun" is complex both behaviorally and neurologically speaking.

But I'm not trying to throw a neuroscience textbook at you. You should try to think about what it is you enjoy doing. If that is harmful to other people (such as love bombing and then discarding them), and especially if it's someone you had a prolonged (longer than 3 months) connection with then you might want to consider that there is a negative emotion, such as bitterness, jealousy, a grudge, guiding your actions. That negative emotion does not need to be rational but you will be much, much happier if you can overcome it and make peace with your own demons rather than project them onto the world.
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>>42352628
you seem smart can i have advice too? i’m the person she’s responding to
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>>42352716
She does seem pretty smart tbqh

>>42352628
Thanks...

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post your most beloved glegles because glegle is a truly flawless creature
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>>42351566
I love the glegle so much i want to put them in the palm of my hand and crush them into fine red pulp in a loving way

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>>42352557
I look good so far at bmi 20. Doubt I'll look much worse at 19.5. Only thing that bothers me is my hip dips, but they were also there when I was at 22 and j really don't like going over that so whatever
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>>42352568
that sounds very healthy to me, peanuts are filled with essential nutrients and you need lots of water!
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Little secret. The mental profile of an anorexic and the mental profile of a hardcore feedee are basically identical (and so are hardcore fitness junkies). Body issues, disordered eating, and the deep desire for control.

Feedee’s are just the most stable end point as it’s working with your subconscious brain’s desire to eat and be lazy rather than against it. A lot of recovering anorexics end up becoming feedees or gainers. You get all the same control except you get to feel full and not die nearly as quickly
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>>42352697
What if I just think fat women are hot? Not everything needs be complicated social complexes
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>>42352697
I don't like the feeling I get when I overeat. I'm genuinely comfortable eating in a way that has me very skinny. Not everyone works the same when it comes to eating

The more I read into FTM dysphoria and FTM dysphoria songs the more convinced I am that FTM dysphoria is a product of AFAB hysteria, penis envy, & AAP adjacent paraphilia

Therefore, the only treatment to calm a femrepper down is to...

> ...make her her favourite comfort food with her,
> help her meal prep so that she doesn't go hungry during the weekends,
> If she wants to be a guy for a day lend her your clothes / see what works for her
> Take her to the hairdresser for a haircut of her choice
> let her vent about being female,
> Help her find a partner of her choice (maybe an FTM or a gay guy or a theyFAB)
> clean her room with her,
> wash her smelly hair,
> then tuck her into her bed before reading her a story of her choice,
before you turn off the lights and head back to your flat


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>>42352631
Ok fine I will delete this thread and my account
You cannot expect a repper to think straight they are reppers for a reason

Plus I did say that I didn't wanna date a masculine FTM from the very start
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>>42352649
You're already over the timelimit for deleting, silly newfag. We could chat regardless, but I'm having a hard time keeping it casual because loneliness
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What is done is done
I am not mentally stable enough to text you
You really shouldn't have asked me to text you when I have my own shit to settle
Like I don't like to ghost people but when I am not feeling like myself I need some space to calm down and regain my sanity
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There were warning signs all over the place and you got to move on
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>>42352696
Don't worry about it, didn't mean to make you uncomfortable either way. It was just hopeful thinking. Have a good one

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I creampied a latwinx three times. Call that shit tres leches cake.
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>>42352676
I prefer flan

Exercise Edition
previous: >>42162119

Goal of the thread: Go out for a walk, or try to get any other form of small exercise (walking stairs for 5 mins for example)
Daily goals can be repeated. Remember to keep score, it can only go up!

>What is this thread for?
Getting better is hard, and sucks. A lot. It does not get easier doing it alone.
Share resources and experiences with combating depression, anxiety, personal issues, achieving or maintaining a healthy weight, etc.
>Why is this thread /lgbt/?
Struggles with mental and physical health are an indisputable part of /lgbt/ life, be it from dysphoria, social pressure, heartbreak, or just unfortunate lifestyle choices.
>Notes to consider:
Please be civil. Shame is your greatest enemy in fighting urges of self abuse (be it sh, drugs, or just self deprecation). Relapsing into bad and unhealthy habits is to be expected, the goal is to increase the average amount of time it takes between relapses. Any improvement is a victory no matter how small. Your worth and right to get better are non-negotiable. And most importantly:
WE ARE NOT THERAPISTS, WE DON'T REPLACE MEDICATION
>Note on advice

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>>42350588
Did you suffer from any form abuse? Got gaslit? Do you struggle in your daily life? Can't accept yourself? Have memory struggles? Happen to struggle with your identity? Running away form the pain? Do you partake in self harming behaviour? Been trying to fix yourself? Live in your head a lot? Didn't have time to process the loss of a loved one? Battleing addiction? If you have any sense of self-compassion, this is your chance to deal with it.

If you find yourself suffering from your own behaviour or the behaviour of others, wether in the moment or in the past, I am here to help! You might have turned your face away from whats based on something actual, and only through facing it, once you are ready, you will be able to free your mind.

Self-discovery is not a replacement for therapy, although it may be an important part of it. There are many things that influence mental health, many of them physical. Getting to know yourself is not a process with an definitive end. Everyday you make decisions that can have a variety of consequences, and you may never know your motiviations behind it.

It might not be for everyone, but I'd urge anyone with any severity of mental health problems no matter if diagnosed or not, to take a step into facing your own demons instead of nurturing them.
You will probably have to reach a breaking point to see that you don't know yourself.

Now, /sig/anon. My proposal is for me to establish a common, predictable appearence in your threads. And if you please, I will give you a contact for either Discord or Matrix, so we can maybe talk about things and proposal in more detail (There is more to this proposal), as I am willing to take on one-on-one sessions or maybe even group chats, too. Eitherway I will wait for your permission to squeeze myself into your general. I am not affiliated with any organization, religion, political party and consider myself progressively becoming more open-minded, espescially in my role as familiar.
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>>42350588
>>42350619
What's your motive? I don't trust you.
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>>42350612
Everybody is the villain in someone else's story.
>>42350667
I anticipated this, and reflected on it beforehand. I'm aware my way to present this role I seek to perform wouldn't seem trustworthy per default. Actions speak louder than words, as they say. I did mention that I am performative out of choice. My words are not meant to invoke any specific feeling, not on purpose, instead I want to rely on being comprehensible by scaled-up verbosity.

>What's your motive?
From my personal perspective, /sig/anon is one of the most compassionate humans I had the pleasure to witness, yet. Seeing as he has been going on with helping people help themselves, I felt inspired to provide myself in a (what over time will clearly be) predictable form to pick people up from where his compassion or anybody else's compassion or way of life has brought them to the fork in the road where testing or solidifying one's own identity is detrimental to a put them out of the harming nature of others or themselves.

I wish for /sig/anon, who I personally care deeply about, to have an ally in his quest to be good to others.

And for personal drive behind all of this, I experienced what it feels like when you're not in control through others taking it away from you in many variations and it broke me, not being able to help myself, running myself to the ground to the point of homelessness. I am not free of shame, guilt or problems. But those things don't matter in performing a role: the one that I always missed, would've needed the most. Someone with a predictable communication, clearly stating intent, especially upon inquiry, and proving consistency through iteration. An open ear, a safe-space for any emotion. A certain kind of kindness, that I now know I missed.

I expect to learn from providing it, as well as getting to heal the part in me that expected only the most vile things of other in all situations, by returning all the kindness and love I experienced.
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>>42350933
I don't ask for much, let me prove myself. I'll answer any question. If I can provide evidence to support my claims, I will.

dc: blackcatanon_51488
matrix: @blackcatanon:matrix.org

I'm purposely not adhering to the social rules of /tttt/ and 4chan as a whole out of the necessity that a lot of the language used is the anthesis of finding out of your own misery. I'm setting clear boundaries, so you know you get what you expect over time.
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The year is 2043. Troonism has finally been solved. It was true what Powers figured: It was all mostly due to genetic and hormonal anomalies. However, Blanchard was of course also in the end accepted as partly correct: Autosexuality is more common amongst trooners and pooners. This is however not what ultimately caused dysphoria. Similar to how siblings who grow up together don't tend to develop sexual feelings for eachother, most cis homosexuals aren't attracted to just being their sex, or the cultural artifacts associated with it. However, the gynephilic trooners and androphilic pooners had something in common with siblings growing up in separate homes, or even countries: The can develop sexual feelings for the similar other. For the separated siblings, the anomalous object of attraction was the other sibling, but for the troonies and poonies, it was instead the nature and culture that they were "supposed" to have had forced upon them all their life, like normal people, but in the end didn't, because of their actual sex. AGP is what happens most often when a person with both a female identity and attraction to females/feminitity grows up without it, and AAP what happens when a person with a male identity and attraction to males/masculinity grows up without it.
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>>42351706
Serano is about as scientific as Blanchard tbhon. Only one that's really valid to look at is Powers because it's much more empirical rather than ideological.
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>>42351706
I'm not calling it schizo, just predicting that people are going to come in here and say that. It's an original thought you had and I think it's an interesting idea for sure
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>>42351210
>AGP is what happens most often when a person with both a female identity and attraction to females/feminitity grows up without femininity
i've been around for 5-6 years and this is a pretty common take from ex-reppers who transitioned and more or less adjusted to the real world
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>>42352211
AGPs are in fact punished HSTSs yes.
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>>42351820
it's not original anon, but yeah, OP made a good post.
>>42351706
>I believe those people are "queer theorists", which does not sound very attractive
serano's "whipping girl" is pretty good honestly. I can understand being scared off by an unattractive transbian, but pls try to look past that.
/lgbt/ has this thing where people prefer "hard truths", which usually just means they steer towards self-hating attitudes. Please understand that this bias isn't any different from the hugboxy "everyone is valid!" bullshit
>I prefer hard science explanations
i agree with >>42351738 Serano is about as scientific as Blanchard. It's all vibes through and through: "ugly and autistic=bad, pretty and normie=good".
plus don't forget that we haven't really figured out gay people yet, and they are a lot simpler than whatever the fuck is going on with dysphoric people, so I wouldn't get my hopes up for an actual "scientific" explanation as to why we are the way we are.

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>QotT
What other boards do you browse besides /lgbt/?

Tagmap: https://tagmap.io/tag/%2Fbigen%2F

FAQ:
>Am I bi if I like women and femboys/traps?
>Am I bi if there's this one member of the same-sex I'm desiring, but normally I like the opposite sex?
>Am I bi if I sexually like both sexes, but only interested in romance with one of them?
Yes, sexual attraction to both sexes is bisexuality.
>What's the difference between bisexual and pansexual?

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>>42351499
Women don't want bi men, even the progressive ones.
If you are openly bi then your only options are homos or the polycule/nb type of woman that are far too gone.
Even if you are a true 50/50 equal attraction bi man then it's better to stay closeted to avoid being labeled as a part of the lgbt
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>>42351627
>Women don't want bi men, even the progressive ones.
>t.bitter gay man spurned by a bisexual
As a married man, who has dated a ton of women, I can tell you this is not factual. Every woman I have told about my bisexuality was fine with it. I never dated guys cuz I wasnt into them like that. No feels. Men are just stunt cocks. living dildos.
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>>42350713
What is it about the culture that necessitates this?
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>>42351499
>Boomer ellipses
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>>42352609
>zoomer argument

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i have 7 credit cards. i have an entire wardrobe full of girl clothes that i never wear because i dont look good enough in them. i just got a mail offer that im preapproved for another card. theres no annual fee so im probably gonna do it. what the hell is creditone bank. i dont know, but im gonna use their money to buy cute dresses to hang in my closet
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>>42352548
why are you buying things you aren't wearing?

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I am 18yo neet tranny and I feel like I’m at best twinkhon.

I cannot find employment and and Im trying to pass but I’m kind of just doing the same things because I can’t afford to get new things and I’m seeing no difference, am I coping or is passing hard for people with 0 money I’m not like an ugly hon but I just want to be happy.

What should I try.
If there’s something that like I need to money farm on but is really worth to not be a fucking visiblehon please help I don’t want to go browse r/MTF for tips I would rather DIE.
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Makeup
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>>42351669
how long on HRT? it sometimes takes a few years for it to make a noticeable difference honestly, even in your teens, if you malefail even sometimes as is you're probably moving in the right direction. as for passing i think just generally looking put together makes a huge difference. haircare is a big one. pretty much every cis woman takes good care of her hair, if yours is flat or frizzy or just generally bad it could be a subtle cue that clocks you. bangs can be good if you have the right face for them but get a stylist to cut them, also short hair cut in a feminine way (like a bob or even a pixie) can often actually be better than long hair if you find it easier to make it look presentable. makeup helps too, less is more a lot of the time, avoid overly dramatic looks like thick black eyeliner etc at first until you've figured out the basics.

no one in my life wants me to die which ends up feeling more like a curse
every day is either painful or null, and the next is the same, and the next and the next times a million
i just want it all to stop but they keep saying I should live
isn't that great that I have people who love me. isn't that great I have to cling to this existence. I just want to dream
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>>42351912
such a mood

I will now post accounts of life on Terf Island
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>>42352284
Yes, normal progressive people are waking up to how widespread the damage “trans” “gender” ideology caused to all of society including finance, healthcare and general everyday food and fuel costs.
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>>42352500
More important than food or war. You would kill every child on earth to harm one trans person for a few mintues.

We need world war 3 to stop trans people. No earth, no trannys. You are very smart
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>>42352476
if they have no food, why are they so fat over there?
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>>42348369
trannies don't want you to know, they violently jerk off to stories like these because they'd hope that they could feel this abuse in their life
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>>42352588
They eat sausage rolls. 500 calories in a small one. They run into shops and steal them by the handful

pros:
>no more browbone (prettier and more passing)

cons:
>surgery risks (shock hairloss, infection, long-term skin effects(?), uneven shape, possibly more?)
>money 6000-9000 eur (i need to jobmax or find a chaser with money, both are hard)
>become more ugly due to surgery complications lol

my browbone is not great and not horrible. it is my worst feature, but it is not that prominent. I used to cope that fat will go more into forehead and it diminishes the brow ridge and making it something that is androgynous but not clocking
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6 months hrt btw
so idk if i should wait with ffs
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>>42352577
shock hairloss isnt real if ur under 30, infection isnt real if you go to a good surgeon, uneven shape also isnt real if you dont go to facial team

and ur ugly now right? im agp so i only think you should do it if its better than the other options
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>>42352589
idk if ugly or not
i find myself to be mid and cute (i know it isn't true for others they prob wouldn't find me cute)
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>>42352585
Give it 2 years at least my facial fat is still changing a lot and I've been on e for 5 years (admittedly hundosed to begin with)
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>>42352633
i have noticed that if fat went away from brow. it wouldn't be noticable at all.

did your brow ridge change? also, when did you see most of the changes? sorry i am just curious


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