>23 khv>decide to troon out>have an internal crisis at 25 but somehow come out with a desire to work>get better job at 26>get ffs and trach shave>social life improves beyond my wildest imaginations>finally starting to love living>get into voice training, walking and other minute mannerisms (many thanks to a theater teacher who for some reason liked me)>lose virginity at 27 with a man>get a short fling with a woman>meet my bf at 28>now at 30 and been living together for almost two yearsSurely I can't be the only former sad incel neet here?
>>42222223What makes you different from a transmaxxer?Ngl, i wish i had the balls to do what you did. I'm 23 as well but can't even get myself to shave. I'm 5'7 so a bit taller than you but i just can't bring myself to do it.
>>42224133are you post op or are you going to be or what?
>>42225030If by "those spaces" you mean specific incel forums or discords, then no. I browsed r9k, I guess.Yes I was into red pill as well. TRP is in fact quite accurate in describing median behavior. Trouble was that the solutions weren't applicable to me. Not only I wasn't tall enough, but I was too depressed for any of their solutions to work as they all assumed at least a moderately successful male socialization.By Europe standards I was a typical incel. Shy, withdrawn, automatically repulsive, not hideous but not even mid, shit-tier social skills, the whole shebang.The press' stereotype about incels is highly exaggerated. Even if I wanted to be violent I couldn't have been because that would've implied being willing to get out from the home and be willing to initiate conflict and then win it too. I was never strong enough as a man to do all of those even in theory.In retrospect, maybe I should've noticed that earlier and troon out earlier. But I can't be bothered to spend time wallowing in regret.
>>42224949>I would assume all former sad incel neets move on to smarter thingsReasonable assumption.I mean, that's what I did too. But I still return to this board from time to time out of a feeling of nostalgia.Thanks for the picrel too :3Though I'd note that there was nobody for me to even point to the ladder, let alone hold it. I had to crawl my way out. No regrets, but ppl should be given a realistic image. It's hard, just not impossible.>>42225118Intention, I guess. The outcome does look similar, and it's why I can't talk about this with anyone.But my initial intention was more desperate rather than calculated.Also, I did put in the effort. And did my best to avoid being a honmoder in public or create drama that would negatively reflect on trans people. Which I will argue is far more considerate than a transmaxxer would be.>but i just can't bring myself to do itWhat do you got to lose? That's where you should start.You don't have to tell me (or really anyone). But be honest with and to yourself.
>>42225047Savings + incurring debt.I was a loner. So not much to spend money on. And I was raised to be disciplined with money.The pandemic also disrupted clinics' schedule so the more it got postponed, the more I could save up. Filled up the rest with debt. I'll be done paying for it by the end of this year, I hope.>baNo. Mom has big breasts. So I reasonably assumed I'd get decent breast growth.I'm quite content with how things turned out. If I had extra €7000 right now I'd rather throw that money into extinguishing the debt incurred for ffs.>on srs>>42225176I don't think I'll get srs anytime soon.Not only the current available options aren't satisfactory enough for me, but I'm also under no pressure either.My bf likes it like this. And I have zero bottom dysphoria. Whatever doubts I had were solved by hrt with the shrinkage of the equipment.Also see >>42224133Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Hi!I don’t know if anyone even remembers my original post but I thought I’d update you guys since that post received a lot of attention both here and on other social media platforms it seems.Looking back on it, it was definitely a mistake to come here to vent about my frustrations. When I wrote that post I was incredibly pent up and that was not a reflection of how I view my relationship. I said this in the replies but I realized that it was something I just had to not think about as it is such a minuscule aspect of our relationship. I love my boyfriend and I don’t think that sex could ever be something I’d choose over him.That being said, I did show my boyfriend the post. His reaction made me understand just how deeply this has also affected him. We spent a lot of time talking about it and we came to an agreement to open our relationship (which was his idea and not something I would’ve ever brought up).Ever since then I’ve been able to spend more time with my cis male ex and it feels like doing so has made my relationship with my boyfriend a lot stronger. We communicate a lot more and we just seem to have a lot more fun together. He told me he didn’t want to see anyone else and actually agreed to meet my ex. My ex and I only ever meet a couple of times a month and with the exception of sex, our relationship is purely platonic. We don’t text much or go on any dates. It’s mostly just a friends with benefits situation where we meet up, talk for a bit, have sex, and go our own separate ways.My boyfriend is the one who suggested this and I’d be lying if I said that at first I didn’t have my doubts. My first thought was that he was doing this as some sort of fetish but I heard him crying in the shower right after we had the conversation (which would imply that he isn’t getting off to this agreement). I made sure to ask again a couple of days later and he seemed even more certain of his decision.
>>42225196How?
>>42223747>My first thought was that he was doing this as some sort of fetish but I heard him crying in the shower right after we had the conversationwow. are you really THAT fucking retarded?actually go to hell. you're repulsive.>>42225113worrying about height is a low iq activity.
>>42225283This whole thing is a lie. I’m sorry.
>>42223777>>42223747>ftm pooner is a literal walking cuckHaving no balls has a whole new meaning LMAOOOOThis shit won't last and you know it.
>>42224956HAHAHAHAHA >OHNONONONONOAAAAAAAAHAHAHAI CAN'T BREATHE
Where are all the dpd trans girls nowadays? I need someone to love and take care of
im normal sorry. would still love a bf < 3
>>42224582do you really want this ? i am so fucking useless....i literally rot 24/7. i cannot function in the real world and cry all the time. i both crave all the love in the world and reject all that is given out of suspicion it's a ploy against me. how could you ever love something like that?
>>42225212I would protect you, make you feel loved and beautiful.
>>42225240I have never felt those things before, never felt safe in my life. But it is a nice thought, imagining being loved. thank you for that :)
>>42225204what does normal mean to a 4tranner
im a tranny who tried dota 2 todaythoughts?
>>42223590as a tranny who also has 5000 hours in dota 2, I agreealso, please OP, do something better with your life than wasting it on dota. even doing drugs is better
>>42225171i was thinking of trying to learn a language or something anon, it's hard to pick one
>>42225200you could pick russian, it would help you play dota
>>42225238i dunno, i dont think id ever visit and russia is a bit of a shithole so i dont think so
>>42223639I played WC3 but could never get into a Dota game because people kicked me when ever I tried to download it, even though I loved Tower/Hero Line Wars, Mafarazzo TD, Footmen Frenzy etc. So League was my starter MOBA, but I still prefer Dota 2 nowadays because it's less zoomy than League, you can play methodical with shit mechanics and do really well just based off of that or you can be a godlike mechanical player and stomp that wayIt has a higher form (as in more variety) of skill expression which appeals more to me than League where it seems if you don't have good reactions you are just done for. League also feels very homogenized through abilities like Flash and similar champion kits, whereas in Dota you are rewarded for a deep game knowledge by outdrafting your opponent (especially fun in ability draft) I do see the appeal of League though, it's just not for me
I’m bisexual. I only have sex with cis men and trans women.
>>42225042Have sex with men
Goated sexuality
I love being a girl so much. I love that I was born in a timeline where transitioning is a thing I love being a girl I love being a girl. I love being a girl so fucking much <33
>>42223636I wish I could be a girl :(
>>42223708me too. it’s just not right for some people sadly
Im too ugly to be a women
>>42223636based
>>42223636how tall are you
I made a post here recently about my friend who is straight but kind of chuddy and maybe closetedly bicurious "joking" about dating me if I became a trans girl. We both act straight most of the time, but he's a close friend and I haven't actually found the right time to come out to him about me being a massive homo femboy yet. We jokingly flirt and stuff, like what I described in my last post, but I try not to ever overstep any boundaries. It may, however, have now passed a certain point where everything can just be brushed off as a joke between friends.He's now bought me a dress for me to try on for him in person. It kind of started as a joke also, but he actually ordered it, roughly in my size. He was saying that he could maybe also wear it if he shaved and stuff, and was kinda asking me for shaving tips, as if he knew that I shave my legs and stuff. The dress is gonna take a while to come, and it's unclear when we'll both have the time to meet up and do it. I don't know what's gonna happen... if he's really straight, or just really steeped in denial, then surely it won't go any further than just me trying it on and joking about it with him, but then he was also joking about getting me girls underwear and stuff. I don't wanna be the one to initiate anything weird, and this expectation of me to basically model it in front of him in the near future makes me feel nervous and vulnerable.To be clear, this is not a fake n gay or fagslop post. I genuinely feel like I need to get this off my chest and maybe get some opinions and advice on this situation.
so basically anon, if it isn't really obvioushe wants to date you and fuck you in that dress. the in between now and him bending you over nobody knows, but that is his goal.
>>42221735HngfskjdhfkjWhat if I wanna be the top though...
>>42221618I hope not >.<
>>42220946You're allowed to be a little gay with your friends anon. Hell there are people who hookup platonically.And if you have concerns, you should talk openly with him about them and have an honest discussion about what you both want, are afraid of etc (if he comes onto you)
>>42220540so you are both transbians or???
how do I do it? I wouldn't mind having perky nipples like this but I literally already have this without e, I need to be on E and not have them grow more. Previous threads:>>42146450>>42198957
>>42224400maintain low bf% and workout with a focus on your chest,e will make your breasts grow but this will minimize it there is a drug that works to prevent chest growth but it gives you brain damage so I cant recommend it to you in good faith, sorry anon
>>42224400sadly the answer is let them develop fully for a while then chop them off
>>42224766How does this work? What workouts would you recommend? And I assume you're talking about raloxifene.>>42224797I literally can't do that though. I live with my parents and my genetics guarantee I'd get breasts. I'll spare you the typical "I'm an irreversibly male hon" bullshit and just say that the few years I'd end up having breasts would be like dysphoria super hell for me.
>>42225034>How does this workpushups, bench press, lots and lots of cardio.outside of that just maintain a low weight?
>>42225058Doesn't seem too problematic. I assume if I try to get a good waist I'm fucked though.
what would you do if you came across a boymoder that was listening to vaporwave, drank fiji water and arizona iced tea, collected photos with surreal aesthetics, and just generally refused to let the vaporwave aesthetic die?
I'd probably have sex with her.
tell her she's based
leave her for a future funk moder
>>42221706Is vaporware the sound of steam?
>>42221706A lot of vaporwave is still good desu but its mostly the ones that just sound like something you would hear in an 80s or 90s commercial rather than the cyber stuff I suggest listening to the source material like this: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uVEkR3waa8U&si=jJMZyBSFS-Z_fa6M Also drink real green tea or matcha green tea. It's healthier
So I have a choice to make in my life this year. I either >get ffs and get stuck with a shitty job or >get into a career bridge program and don't get ffsI mean I can always get ffs at a later date but I don't know if I could get into this career bridge program again. So I basically will get paid to go to school for 2 years if I do the bridge program and end up making 30+ an hour if I pass it. If I don't I'm likely stuck making 20 an hour and yes I will get ffs but it's with a no name surgeon that I'm honestly kind of afraid of how the results will look.What would you do in this situation?
>>422245875'6
>>42225038fuck you.fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you.
>>42225106why ask if you didn't want to know?
>>42222691>career bridge>brow bridgeThe duality of woman
>>42225148bored ig
/lesgen/ is the lesbian general for all cis women and trans women (MtF) to discuss lesbian relationships and topics.Be kind to each other and report/ignore trolls who attempt to divide trans mtf lesbians and cis lesbians as a community. This includes transphobic bigotry, femmephobia, butchphobia, racism, and anti-c4t/t4t slop. This is nice thread. :)QOTT>How do you handle conflict in your romantic relationships?>What causes are you passionate about? >How would you describe your fashion style? What is your favorite clothing piece you own?tagmap: https://tagmap.io/tag/%2Flesgen%2Fdiscord: https://discord.gg/bAnVMAGPNRold thread: >>42193235
>>42222912yeah it's similar with me and idk why some people irl decided to stick with me irl if it was just them knowing me for long enough that I became a part of background noise for me or if they just seen me as a thing that they can laugh at or if I was faking well enough but hey I'm bi so maybe I will find some abusive bottom of the barrel guy who will kill me instead
>>42223349Im fortunate to be well enough of mind to know my friends truly do value me. One of the things I struggle with is feeling like they will disappear one day - whether suddenly or silently drifting away. The end result is me being incredibly clingy to the point of being annoying. The problem being that Im quite aware of this behavior and alternate being clinging and pushing away (for fear of being percieved as clingy)Add in ye olde BPD mood swings/deep sense of emptiness/brokenness/shame (that feeling that they deserve better permeates my being) and you get a pretty noxious cocktail of fuckedtry.Ive gotten a lot better about not randomly burning things down, but I dont have a sense of being a "real person" worth actually valuing and if I were not-me I wouldnt put up with me, especially after the first time the mask came down.I have some amazing friends and I wish I could be better for them. :[
>>42223589I ghosted mine nearly a year ago and was distant to them for few months prior to that hoping to die soon after but luckily I don't really cared much about them even if I think about messaging them every so often just so I have a place to go that isn't my room but the shame always easily stop me from doing sowith how much I self sabotaged my whole life or haven't cared I honestly with I would go thru that plan instead of still being here and stil doing nothing
here's to hoping trump deports the veneco moids at my job
>>42222590sometimes i fantasise about my friend topping me with her dick and then i feel gross because like, what if she has strong bottom dysphoria and would never do that with anyone, it feels gross to fantasise about that if it might be the case
>finish fucking>start getting dressed>bottom always gets emotional and starts saying things like "wait don't go yet" "let's snuggle for a while" "I'll get us something to eat together"Every time. What is their deal? Do they have nothing better to do with their lives?
>>42224971>lacks logic>baitposter leaves out the biological necessity for women and men to form bonds and grow towards family like units.
>>42225014Nah see im like that bird that fucks the other birds wives and you can just raise my eggs actually if you like cuddling so much you gay bitch . The cuckoo we can call you
>>42224893I love that feeling. I need a boyfriend.
>>42224893what do boys like to do after having sex?
After sex affection with my bottom is the best part of sex. I love affection
what was your first time sucking dick like?curious cause i might try it one day, i think there isn't much to imagine when you already have one, but the idea might be different from the reality
>>42224755Throw his ass on the grill.
>>42224723that's the reward
>>42224723She didn't really make any just some fluid
>>42224555as a girl with a vagina i am sad i cannot suck on cocks very well since i can't know what feels good
>>42225079huh that's interesting I feel like I'm usually able to tell when something feels good for the person I'm hooking up with regardless of gender.
This shit is getting serious y'all I've only watched the first three episodes and thought it was decent, I'm waiting until I fly back home from Christmas vacation to catch up on the first season with all my girlfriends.
Its not triggering any tingling in my brain receptors.
>don't have the penetrative urge at all >short (for a man)>not gay>not straight or bi either>kind of a loser>uncoordinated>not dependable >unattractive>cry easily>get bullied for this and it's my faultWhy am I stuck as a guy? I'm not even saying I want to transition, I don't, I don't have anything in common with women either.>miserable>no social skills, don't even have the excuse of autism >extremely risk averse>can't reproduceComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>42224746Me too
>>42224588>be aceI'm sorry that society's expectations are weighing on you but all of that is okay. you're okay.
>>42224746>>42224843Epic Reddit response dude
>>42224588I have a penetrative urge and I don't have a dick.Sounds like you have a skill issue
>>42224588why do you think vaginas are revolting..they are a normal body part
