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>what is INTERGEN?
INTERGEN is a general for intersex people to talk to each other about their experiences or just to hang out

>what is an intersex person?
Intersex people are those born with any of several sex characteristics, including chromosome patterns, gonads, or genitals that do not fit typical binary notions of male or female bodies

>am I intersex?
We are not doctors, please seek medical advice, but dont be afraid to ask questions here to maybe understand things better

>are trans people intersex?
Trans people are not inherently intersex, however an intersex person can transition if they want, “neurologically intersex” is not real as being intersex pertains to the sex organs or hormonal productions

>how is this /lgbt/?
We share similar experiences of discrimination and social prejudice based on sex and gender norms, even though intersex is a variation of sex characteristics, not a gender identity or sexual orientation itself
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>>42265062
There's no need to post actual medical records, it'll suffice to explain why and how you are intersex. How did you find out? What exactly do you have?
Otherwise its all larp here.
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>>42294898
Cool anon I’ll do it once I put my contacts in and actually see what’s happening
>otherwise
Good morning INTERGEN
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>>42293716
That is unfortunate and I'm sorry to hear it :(
>>42294898
I can't speak for everyone but I simply do not care if random anonymous chuds think I'm larping.
Anything I post will be lost anyway and you'll be demanding proof again two replies later because you've demonstrated before you cannot follow context. Your game is recognizable.
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>>42296894
>that is unfortunate and I'm sorry to hear it :(
It’s okay, i think maybe at some point it’ll change if not there’s always a monastic lifestyle to achieve
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God I almost forgot about this thread been doing spring cleaning

clicker training is some zoophilia type of fetish because it's pretending to be a dog in a sexual situation
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>>42300643
it's just age regression/autopedophilia with a different name
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>>42300643
>zoophillia
>no sex with animals involved
easy, next
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>>42300643
(You)

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Is it possible to gaslight oneself into being dysphoric as a cis person?
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>>42285208
Dysphoria makes life miserable for a lot of people, and you want to pretend to have one? What’s going on in your head
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Yes
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I can corrupt any male into being submissive. I just don't because it could make their life harder.
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>>42296909
That just sounds like a normal repper timeline

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Socialising guide for zoomers (Mostly for romance but a lot of it is applicable to platonic friendships too):

>In general, you should type roughly the same amount as the other person types, and always ask them a question about themselves after you talk about yourself "Oh I really like this band, blah blah blah, what band do you like?"
>It is considered extremely rude to disappear mid-convo or take 10+ minutes per reply, if you are busy you say "Hey sorry, I'm outside/doing the dishes/working on something/etc. so replies might be slow for a bit"
>Check in with people at important times of the day, like when you wake up, lunchtime, early evening and before bed
>If someone messages you, and you're too busy for a conversation, it takes 5 seconds to say "Hey I'm busy, I'll message you later"
>Show interest in the other persons life, ask them how they're doing, they will do the same for you if they care
>You should want to be with someone you like all the time, it shouldn't be an effort, it should feel natural
>IF THIS ALL SEEMS LIKE TOO MUCH, YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE PERSON, DO THEM The COURTESY OF NOT INTERACTING WITH THEM AND WASTING THEIR TIME
Treat internet conversations as if you're stood face to face with that person irl, behave accordingly.
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>>42300393
I can tell you're a real zoomer because OP said that, but zoomies can't read and synthesize large blocks of text, so they just try to hunt for the most important information in them instead
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>>42300201
this, I ran out of juice so now I'm only focusing on surviving and maybe making steps to get out of the hole, there's too little life left to be others' emotional tampon, cheering them on while nothing improves for me
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>>42300601
find some friends who support you as well.

a good friendship should go both ways.
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>>42300609
you're right
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Any decent advice for actually finding other trans ppl that are at least somewhat mentally stable?
I can't find any friends irl cuz all the other zoomies are normies or they don't gaf about relationships.
coming from a 19yr old wageslave troon.

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if I am perfectly androgynous?
I don't look trans, I just look very neotenous despite being 30 now (been told I'd make a great shota years ago) and my face is very weakly gendered neither male nor female.
I feel like no one ever looks like me in the world and I am completely unique. There is definitely no trans woman that does lol.
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Would pretty much imply a lack of masculine dimorphism.
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>>42300375
Pretroon I had let myself go and was fat and buried my features under that and hair, which has been gone now for years
But yeah styling obviously makes me look way more womanly but if I don't wear makeup I look incredibly androgynous
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>>42300395
I mean ig what I don't get is I see trans women all the time on here who are way more clocky but also like look like women? Like they're less androgynous despite looking visibly trans yknow
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>>42300420
break it down facial feature by facial feature(eyes, lips, nose), and then by bone structure (skull/jaw). Obviously beauty standards are going to influence these. Facial compactness is neotenous, and also generally seen as feminine. (distance between nose, mouth, and eyes). full lips = feminine, big eyes = feminine, almond eyes = appeal to female beauty standards, small nose = feminine, soft instead of angular jaws/chins = feminine, smaller for each feature except eyes, and lips = feminine.
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>>42300454
>break it down facial feature by facial feature(eyes, lips, nose), and then by bone structure (skull/jaw). Obviously beauty standards are going to influence these. Facial compactness is neotenous, and also generally seen as feminine. (distance between nose, mouth, and eyes). full lips = feminine, big eyes = feminine, almond eyes = appeal to female beauty standards, small nose = feminine, soft instead of angular jaws/chins = feminine, smaller for each feature except eyes, and lips = feminine.
>eyes: very big and almond, a bit downturned
>lips: average sized, no filler, had lip lift so philtrum is pretty short
>nose: straight and relatively short
>skull: i have a big head but it's more long than large so it doesn't show much
>jaw: not very defined but v-shaped?
>cheeks: relatively hollow, not plump
>cheekbones: very prominent
>browbone: slight hump due to ethnicity ig, not completely flat but not big (was pre-ffs but it was a pretty light ffs ngl)
>chin: thin and the slightest bit receding? Like it's not forward but it's not like weirdly back either lol

all over the world there are people with the same condition as you who wake up in the morning and begin their day

they take a shower and style their long flowing hair in a way that frames their feminine face they got with good genetics or facial feminisation surgery

they do their makeup, mascara and eye shadow brings out their bright, beaming eyes

they put on their underwear, a bra for their breasts that protrude without shame beneath their top, panties that hug their surgically sculpted vulva

they go to work, people greet them by their chosen name, nobody knows that they used to be like you

strangers say "excuse me, ma'am?" when trying to get their attention

they have friends, family, lovers, some know, some don't, they don't care, they're living their life

every day they wake up and it begins again

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>>42298656
yep and they're not women
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>>42298247
most manmoders know they aren't women and don't identify as such.
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>>42299516
yes and they deserve to feel bad about it
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I mean manmoders are repressing by definition
Not sure what the point of this thread is about
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>>42299558
I don't feel bad about manmoding

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Why do straight men like this?
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>>42295453
I am pretty sure it is women getting off to this.
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>>42295453
It’s hot.
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>>42299528
There are literally 0 women that like this shit who do not have penises.
t. someone who gets off to this
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>>42295453
>straight men
Bisexuals

Bisexuals turn into trannies and chasers
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>>42300545
hi its me the legendary asexual tranny

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cis woman appreciation edition
qott: why do (You) love cis women nona?
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id call her mommy
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>>42300647
She's very pretty.
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>>42300547
Do you think i should bring that up to a therapist?
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>>42300745
has chloë sevigny not gone through enough? having her play a tranny seems unfair
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>>42300547
dysphoria is not the same as wanting to be attractive

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New years new twinks edition

Question of the day: What are your new years resolutions?

>FAQ
>What is a femboy? What is a twink?
A femboy is a male that pursues a feminine appearance for himself whilst still identifying as male. A twink is a male with a slender figure and a youthful appearance, usually with little body/ facial hair
>Are femboys trans?
The majority of femboys are cisgendered. Femboy is not a 'stepping stone' to trans, it is a stand alone identity.
>Can trans post here?
Trans people are welcome to post in /fbg/ and identify as trans twink/femboy if they want, but this is not a trans thread. Posts should not be about 'transitioning' and discussion of hormone usage should be restricted to skincare applications.
>Can twunks and otters post here?
Yes
>I'm not twink or femboy but I am an enjoyer of them, can I post here too?
Yes

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>>42299949
go to a dermatologist that specializes in hair health, thats what i did
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>>42299732
There aren't any 40 year old twinks because twink literally means "feminine, youthful man" and 40 year olds aren't typically youthful.
40 year old men with feminine qualities aren't exactly uncommon, on the other hand. With that said, if you want to keep looking like a girl, HRT is probably going to be necessary.
Ultimately, however, it all comes down to what you want out of life. You can do as little or as much as you want. Really, this should be a comforting and empowering message, but for some reason it just pisses people off in this thread.
>>42299949
Getting a legit prescription is usually tougher than just getting it on the gray market, since you have to find a doctor who is willing to give credence to your concerns.
If you have any signs of hair loss though, getting a dermatologist to give it to you shouldn't be a challenge. Maybe see if you can find one in your area that is known to prescribe it, some doctors actually prefer writing scripts for dutasteride over finasteride. This anon is pointing you in the right direction >>42299963
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>>42299949
There's a site online called Dr. B where you can get a script and have it sent to your local pharmacy.
I have no idea what the process is, but apparently a lot of people have had luck with it.
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>>42300035
where might one buy duta on the gray market? would it be a similar price to prescription still?
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>>42300558
It'd be significantly cheaper than a prescription in most cases.
I get mine on AIPCTShop.

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I hate seeing attractive people.

They wake up every morning not feeling disgusting.
They can look down and see a body that they know is theirs.
They don't see their shoulders stick out too far in the mirror.
They don't notice their masculine jawline, chin and hands.
They hum in the shower with a voice they recognise.
They brush their hair not obsessing over the widow's peak they've had since 14.
They don't have to disassociate just to avoid breaking down at the sight of themselves.
But I do.

They're everywhere. In the streets I walk on, when I pass them at work, in the places I visit. My friends, strangers, people I'll never see not online, and it hurts all the same.

I wonder often what my life would be like if I wasn't born like this. What it would be like to be part of the overwhelming beauty in the world, instead of someone who can only watch from the outside. What it would be like if my body hadn't poisoned me for years with testosterone, would I be satisfied then?


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>>42298740
damn thanks OP, i see a haircut that i like and u made me think of it could work on me
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>>42298740
Most attractive gays are boring, drug and sex addicted.
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Becoming attractive takes work, OP. Then you have to maintain discipline once you get there. You think these people don’t have to work at it? Look at them 10 years later and 50% become overweight and chopped. No one stays attractive without adherence to pure living and values.
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>>42298740
>These people get to be human. They get to go out, be loved, have their hearts broken, be held in the arms of someone they love. I can't even find someone attractive without feeling like a creep for doing so,
tell me about it
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>>42300216
which one? i could probably find a hair 360 for most of them if you want

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This thread is dedicated to informing people genuinely questioning the legitimacy of being transgender, educating lurkers/posters of /lgbt/, as well as dismantling the idiocy, misinformation/disinformation and bad faith actors from transphobes (/pol/). Please refer to the following link when discovering a fallacy as well as properly linking to any of the following studies that most accurately counters flawed logic, or best supports the evidence and legitimacy for being transgender when questioned.

https://www.logicalfallacies.org/

pt 1/?
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Good thread. I never really gathered links to studies like that and there were times where it could be useful so I'm definitely saving that. Thank you
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>>42291331
Well yeah anon you have to dissect a brain in order to do that reliably. It took the author 11 years to collect these samples
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>>42291331
Also there was a repeat of it in early 2000s by a different institute and it said the same
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Scientific evidence silencing and cleaning up anti-trans rhetoric, one thread at a time.
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bump 4ever

What the fuck even am I? I am disgusted by my masculine body so much that I want to kill myself, but i dont think i really want to be a girl. I feel like trans women are on a higher level of goodness than i am, and that im not worthy enough to be considered a trans woman. Plus I also want to be a femboy too. I dont know whats wrong with me and i cant stop freaking out, what am i?!
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>>42299710
this was me
i trooned anyway
i am happier this way
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>>42299710
It kinda sounds like you're a tranny with imposter syndrome. Obv I can't know what you really are, but I was the same and completely unable to get over it. Only doing acid actually made me realize that I was holding myself back from being truly happy
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>>42299961
But i dont feel worthy of calling myself a girl, and i also want to still be seen as a femboy
>>42300083
I felt like this for years. If it was imposter syndrome then i likely wouldve figured it out by now i think
>>42299763
I want my body to be as feminine as possible, i guess i just want to be seen as both a boy and a girl when it comes to identity. But i worry if i tried identifying as something like genderfluid, people would just treat me like im genderless or just treat me like a freak.
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>>42299710
the imposter syndrome passes eventually the forward you go with transition.
thank god i didn't wallow and just started at 21. Now at 30 I get to live.
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>>42300190
>i guess i just want to be seen as both a boy and a girl when it comes to identity
that worked well as a cope in the early years of my transition.
Would've been happy even if i had to stay that way, desu. But eventually I learned to love femininity.

what are the chances of a boymoder becoming a beautiful and elegant princess?
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>>42300174
is it allowed for a boymoder and a girlmoder to share a bed? seems risky..
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>>42300239
what's risky about that?
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>>42300330
there are sexual dangers when boys and girls get too close
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>>42300386
well...
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>>42300465
i wonder if there are any lesbian boymoders

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QOTT:
Were you also lonely with no thread fOR 3 DAYS???

>Reminder: This gen is for cis homosexual females (lesbians). All trans-related or bisexual posts are considered off-topic and should be directed to other generals or threads. No discussion of male (XY) anatomy.

Discords:
>OG Discord: https://pastebin.com/P644WESi
>clg2 Discord: https://pastebin.com/1ct1Fcag
>clg3 Discord: https://pastebin.com/emrpgWM8

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I feel like I've hit a point in my transition where I can do better than my current boyfriend.
I don't want to sound like an evil bitch but the guy I attracted as a 6 month babytranny and the guys I attract now 2 years in are leagues apart. My current bf isn't bad or anything, but he's not like exceptional either .
I don't know, I guess I'm wondering if I actually like him or do I just like that he supported me when I was uglier.
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>itt
>a bunch of salty low quality chasers
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come on op, stick with your bf. you rant comment in a relationship, and you already have that, especially if you put more work in. finding people who are higher up the x/10 ladder would be a useless risk. just focus on loving your partner more. think about how much fun you had when you were new to dating each other, and do things to try to recreate that novelty. it's still possible. help him grow to the standards you want too, if he's ugly go to the gym with him and give lots of praise for any work he takes to look better (but don't neg)
sounds like a lot of work or whatever but commitment is infinitely better than getting a better x/10 that won't treat you right.
t. tranny btw not even saying this as a bitter chaser or anything. it's just good for you to stick with someone. cycling relationships will hurt you.
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>>42299881
you want commitment in a relationship* sorry fucked up that first sentence real bad

again, if it feels like the magic has died in this relationship, it's not because it necessarily has to have died. you can bring it back. don't chase new guys for novelty. commitment is infinitely better. commit to your current guy, and devote yourself to helping him better you and you bettering him.
you'll know if you actually need to leave if being with him actually starts to feel... draining. bad. unhealthy. but that's a different feeling. it feels suffocating. like you're being treated actively badly. that's different to relationship FOMO. relationship FOMO is social media narcicism driven brainrot and you don't want to give in to it.
basically, try to be as normal as possible. what would a normal person do here? stick with her boyfriend, is what. so you should do that too.
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>>42299934
Let her learn. Her bf deserves someone better.
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What it sounds like to me is that you improved yourself during the relationship but he did not. I think it's not evil to want to leave a man who is stunted in growth


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