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This thread is dedicated to informing people genuinely questioning the legitimacy of being transgender, educating lurkers/posters of /lgbt/, as well as dismantling the idiocy, misinformation/disinformation and bad faith actors from transphobes (/pol/). Please refer to the following link when discovering a fallacy as well as properly linking to any of the following studies that most accurately counters flawed logic, or best supports the evidence and legitimacy for being transgender when questioned.

https://www.logicalfallacies.org/

pt 1/?
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>>42306675
those people in power can just lie and ignore evidence. you are living in a country where the president got elected off of inane ramblings about how hatians are eating the dogs. there has been plenty of research on vaccines but you still have people trying to ban vaccine usage and take horse dewormer or whatever instead. stupid people (which most americans are) will not read these articles and the smart ones will see ontological flaws with the implicit gender essentialism that would render most of these points meaningful in the first place. at the end of the day knowledge doesnt mean anything without power. i remember seeing the narrative that gender dysphoria being an intersex brain conditioned years ago and no one gave a damn. meanwhile, the current administration can push ludicrous narratives about how trans people are all terrorists now on the basis of scant or selective evidence
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>>42306861
this is a really longwinded way to say trannies can get normal boobs that make normal milk
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>>42306950
to add, what is even the story behind these articles? "trans people have female brains". when a feminist sees that story they are geared against the essentialism. when a chud or even most "right wing" and "centrist" people see this, the narrative is you are a crazy person trying to ignore your chromosomes and being born with a dick. you can't just post studies, there needs to be a narrative, and people will interact with said narratives first and foremost, especially at a time where more and more people have a growing distrust for institutional knowledge. something important to see here is not only are most people stupid, but facts don't just exist in a freely floating vacuum, you need to interpret them first and foremost

the entire logic of legitimization is centred on the whims and attitudes of people who fundamentally do not respect trans people regardless of the actual facts that can be laid down. even many allies are fine dunking on trans people as well if their behaviour does not suit them. integration politics and its consequences have been a disaster for the transsexual race.

ever notice how the trans people in women's sports is STILL a topic that people bring up? people posted studies of muscle density and saw that they were comparable to that of cis women. at the end of the day though, transphobes can just post a gorilla hon as their response and the narrative defeats any evidence put on the table

>>42306962
i think it is some tourist that thinks the image is an own somehow as ive seen this posted elsewhere with not comment
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what should transgender research focus in?
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>>42308308
alternatives to transitioning since that only seems to work for a lucky subset of subjects

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MTFG: Make a thread you lazy troons edition

QOTT: What are you doing for this weekend? January blues setting in?
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>>42306498
Stay ED skinny and they will stay small
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>>42305359
eat a triple cheeseburger sheen it will make you feel better
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>work at hospital
>patient last name Honn
>she keeps having critical values so I keep seeing her name everywhere
They’re mocking me, aren’t they?
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aaaaaaaaaaa
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I WISH I WERE A WOMAN
I CAN'T LIVE AS A MOID ANYMORE

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i don't think lgbt spaces are a positive for society or peoples mental health
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>>42302333
That’s exactly it.
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>>42301912
nah it's all foreplay
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>>42300226
true
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>>42300226
Maybe, as its 4chan, /lgbt/ isnt or certain other online spaces. But irl places most likely are
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>spaces
is such a retarded way to frame it, man
fucking pseudo academic slop
you are right though, segregation makes every other setup look like an us vs them-thing and that doesnt help anyone

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I gave my youth away to cis men and was burned thrice. I am now a 30 year old unlovable tranny.
Any tips on accepting being an aging femcel?
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haha loser
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>>42307295
>gave my youth away
wdym
you hit the wall like any other woman, isnt that validating?

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Last thread died early edition
>QOTT: What's your favorite cancelled TV show?
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>>42306252
That's a harsh judgment for not even 2 weeks on it.
I don't even know what I'm doing. This could be a coincidence.
Either way, I'm looking at probably years of hrtrepping best case scenario. My psychiatrist is more optimistic than I am, lul.
Hugs
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wow i fucking hate being alive
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>>42306515
Can we hate being alive together?
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Woke up today. Still want to be a girl. Fuck.
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How do we help the femreppers, anons?

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how do i make hypervigilance and cptsd go away. overthinking everything and comparing myself to others and never feeling relaxed is ruining my life. please help. late 20s transitioner. i've already lashed out at so many people i have no friends. i dont know. i've never been loved.
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>>42308152
i dont really know, i think it just means being paranoid and jumpy and never being able to relax and just being stressed all the time. it makes me sad and miserable. lots of overthinking
>>42308142
i also didnt bother replying to the queer meetup thing because i actually have spent the last 2 years trying to go to queer meetups where most of the other trannies there think im "cool" but aren't really worth being friends with and then i get very embarassingly flirted with because i look better than most of them. its really sad. i dont like queer meetups because. yeah.
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>>42308172
so you're someone the newbies look up to. keep your boundaries and they'll become powerful allies
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>>42308180
no, i want real friends, i want people that make me feel like i belong
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>>42308185
so what i'm reading is that you failed to graduate from newbie tranny into passoid, which means you have to take the newbie course again. if you dont have the ability to connect with woman or have a feminized voice, you'll be excluded from the passoid clique until you do pass.

i'm being metaphorical, but that's what's happened. you have to forge social connections by being a reliable person, and the connections you /need and deserve/ will come to you.

there's no shame in failing the first round. happened to me, it's much better to be above it all and be a pillar that the new girls can aspire to

you got this!!!
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>>42307556
if it helps i am struggling with some very similar issues. i live in constant fear and i am trying to surrender myself to psychiatry and psychology but i dont really believe its going to help because its all a racket. and i have no friends because i always cut them off and fall off the earth. and i dont get along with other trannies even. so you're not alone at least

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how would you rate her transition?
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does trixie know this thread is up yet, could probably make a fun reaction vid
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>>42308125
No need to be decent with AGPedos
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>>42308169
Divided we fall. Humanity isnt something to be given and taken away.
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>>42308179
Not all of us want to be allies with pedophiles. Oh sorry, "MAPs".
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>>42308207
A paedophile is someone who rapes kids.

Raping kids is one of the most horrific accusations you can make of someone. Thats an evil thing to say

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What do bottoms do when they become old and undesirable? Women can still be milfs in old age, older tops can be silver fox daddies, but absolutely nobody likes post-wall bottoms
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>>42305492
Yeah, cause cis women age wonderfully . . .
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>>42292468
Most gay men are masc4masc. "Bottom" is not an identity any more than "likes broccoli" is to an actual gay man. Stop trying to push your heteroslop where it doesn't belong.
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>>42308189
>posts a woman who aged wonderfully
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>>42308228
You're replying to an anorexic repper.
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>>42292512
so poorly?
great

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Idk why I found myself being such a poon chaser recently, I guess I just like the idea of an actual self made man to comfort and love me. I just want someone to masculate ig
>t. Meta-attracted ay jeez pee

Reminder: This gen is for cis females with gender dysphoria. This is not a trans man gen. All posts that are considered off-topic should be directed to other generals, threads or boards.
Keep the discussion exclusively about female repressing or fuck off.
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>>42308008
I found an amazingly handsome femrepper bf that likes listening to me talk about my autistic special interests, wants the same things out of life as I do, sees the world broadly as I do and matches up with me on a spooky number of things - including weird, niche kinks.
If I can find someone like that, who I want to spend the remainder of my life with on 4chan of all places. Statistically there must be plenty of plenty of potential matches for the average person.
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>>42308080
Just curious why it's such a deal breaker
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>>42308084
And I've been on the internet since 2012, those who are attracted to me and those who I'm attracted to are 2 different categories that almost never overlap (it happened once and was long-distance and I worked my ass off to make it to irl and got called creepy and blocked) sybau
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androphilic femreppers, what’s your plan
What would it take for you to date and be happy with someone
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>>42308160
Camwhore. It would be perfectly reasonable for people to not want to date me because of it, but I didn't even get to tell anyone I was talking to because they ghosted me beforehand lmao

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Seeking other black trannies into both noise music and bdsm... or just not racist trannies into picrel

>>42297081
>Hey blackanonette u wanna be friends?
Are you black? maybe...
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>>42307068
If you ever look into Coil you'll learn about the occult stuff they were into and how obsessed they were with gay sex. I love that vibe and wish I could live it out in my sex life and think anyone that gets that part of me would have a likely chance of getting the rest right. Am I wrong? Like I really wish I had another emasculated black twink that would cut me open and watch me squirm and we could go to sex dungeons while they degrade me on a leash and stuff... but this is just an exact mirror of my idealized self and I'm starting to think I'm the only one that exists. I know a bunch of white trannies like this but they are racist or just ignorant enough for me to not want to ever consider them more than a friend. I think it's over for me desu.
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I am not racist. However I dislike music and BDSM so I really don't qualify here.
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*crosses the street*
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>>42307222
>>42307353
I'm so fucked man

/lesgen/ is the lesbian general for all cis women and trans women (MtF) to discuss lesbian relationships and topics.

Be kind to each other and report/ignore trolls who attempt to divide trans mtf lesbians and cis lesbians as a community. This includes transphobic bigotry, femmephobia, butchphobia, racism, and anti-c4t/t4t slop. This is nice thread. :)

QOTT
>Are you talented with your hands?
>If your wife was dying and you had no other choice, would you pay for black market organs (obtained from murdered victims)?
>Where do you get your news from? Do you do proper research before forming opinions? How? Be honest, don’t give pseud answers.

tagmap: https://tagmap.io/tag/%2Flesgen%2F
discord: https://discord.gg/bAnVMAGPNR
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>>42306347
Out of me and all my cousins/siblings, i dont believe any of us can drive lol
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>>42305914
real question? am i falling victim to bait? there are a few ways gay parents can have kids. i presume one of her moms had her, though, because she had her face.
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>>42306398
>(Sorry for the european transit reference, im aware americans can only relate to car tire pollution and gas fumes)
can you stop being german for one second
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>>42307187
-_-
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>>42307187
It's pretty sad: the Germans went from based to cringe all in one generation.

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>be me
>think of myself as an "open-minded straight person"
>do some research years later
>turns out I'm just pan

Kewl
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>>42307623
good for you! :)
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>>42307707
Thanks, Anon!
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sounds groomer-y
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Weird way to admit you like to fuck kids but ok
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>>42308059
Dude wtf no

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Jason of /cum/ edition

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>QotT
What other boards do you browse besides /lgbt/?

Tagmap: https://tagmap.io/tag/%2Fbigen%2F

FAQ:
>Am I bi if I like women and femboys/traps?
>Am I bi if there's this one member of the same-sex I'm desiring, but normally I like the opposite sex?
>Am I bi if I sexually like both sexes, but only interested in romance with one of them?
Yes, sexual attraction to both sexes is bisexuality.
>What's the difference between bisexual and pansexual?

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>>42279287
>'Prison gay' is not a real thing and porn addiction does not alter your sexual orientation. You are bi.
There are a tons of studies where they condition people to experience arousal by all kinds of things. It works by including the item with sex so the person associates it with arousal.
This is exactly what happens in porn especially with trans, femboys and "traps". Combine this with the novelty seeking behavior coomers exhibit and it's the perfect recipe to make the person bi.
Biology only explains bottom and trans sexuality. Bisexuality especially doesn't fit in any biological framework of sexual attraction
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>male celebrity admits to being bisexual
>look at their romantic history
>all female
ye okay, whatever you say bitch.
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>>42279287
>What other boards do you browse besides /lgbt/?
/lit/ and /gif/.
the latter is a cesspit of BBC porn and tranny's, the former is 50% good, 50% bad.
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>>42307750
>BBC porn and tranny's
That's exactly why I go to >>>/gif/!
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i'm 40 and have been here forever

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I'm actually 20 but I came up with this hypothetical situation where I am 16 and ftm and wondering if in this situation one should come out to ones parents: My mom is the one who controls stuff in my household so she's the one I care about. And I only care about their reaction because I want to access hrt
> parents are both liberal
> def would be accepting of me if I were gay, accepting of trans people to, I think they have a friend who's trans
> mom asked me when I was 11 or so if I wanted to be a boy after I threw a temper tantrum about wearing a dress. I stupidly said no because I didn't know medical transition was an option
> I am very immature, sometimes I play up being immature to make my family laugh but that makes them take me less seriously when I actually need something
> I do not have the kind of relationship with my parents where I tell them my feelings, both they and I are very awkward
> mom has this thing where she wants me to be a "strong independent woman", frequently compares me to characters in movies like that
> I am her only daughter, clearly wants me to be a daughter, exited to go shopping, talk about periods, boys, ect
>generally acts proud of her womanhood or whatever and includes me in that to
> very second wave feminism, focused on "woman are allowed to be masculine" type stuff, that's the kind of people who become terfs because they don't understand why you can't just be a tomboy
> has gotten into some pseudoscientific stuff before, isn't above cherry picking data
>>we shouldnt be blinded by our own political camps, there are good ideas on both sides
> I could see her going down the terf path
> she also noticed how i dress to hide my boobs and mentioned “when I was your age I dressed in baggy clothes because I wanted to hide myself too” dont know wtf that means
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I wouldn't do the whole outing thing, since you're already 16 (20) at least in my country (Germany) you don't need your parents' approval to visit a shrink anymore
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dysphoria is heritable. so your mom may wave away requests to transition

that's the trick, you dont *ask* to transition, you just fucking do it.

if you socially transition, it seems like your parents might support you. can be hard to tell
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>>42306863
>>42307017
I actually am 20, I wrote this post when I was 16 and never posted it and copy pasted it in my diary, I was reading through my old diary and thought why not post it. I wish I listened to this kind of advice back then because I did tell my parents and it didn’t go anywhere. I only learned later that you don’t need your parents permission in my country to get hrt at 16, but also it was covid at the time and I had no excuse to leave the house to go to an appointment, no way to make a call without them hearing me (in my mind at least.)
anyways here’s how it went
> purposely waited till it was late because my inhibitions are down and I am braver late at night
> told my whole family (brother mother father) at once (why)
> all sitting in the living room chatting, I try to speak, my brother notices
>> it seems like anon wants to say something
> literally just say “i am transgender “
> dad laughs a little
> mom wonders what transgender means
> dad and brother come up with definition
> parents talk about how they have a friend who is transgender
> somehow I didn’t say another word that evening
> my older brother texted me “hi” immediately after, I think he was going to help me, ignored it because at that point I regretted saying anything

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>>42308161
transition


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