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I'm really enjoying this so far. Don't see ti mentioned here often (or ever?). The narration is great. It feels conspiratorial and ironic, like he is leaning over my shoulder and laughing with me at the vanity of these people. Where are the Stendhal enjoyers at?
Im right hereRead The Charterhouse of Parma afterwards, its even more fun.
>>24939000that shit always makes me want to order a meatball parm damn it's only tuesday
>good poetry is poetic>good prose is prosaic
what about prose poetry
how do u get more energy when ur just over it all
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>>24938937Good prose is poetic too.
gusic
Who is your favorite woman author?
>>24938962no it isn’t
>>24938965It is though, at least originally
>>24938976it isn’t though, i there’s no earlier deity called by another name modifying it.
>>24938983Not true, there are multiple candidates for the potential original goddess, but ultimately it's unknowable as Aphrodite is completely absent in Linear B tablets. Same with Hekate btw.
>>24938993unknown etymology doesn’t makeepithet. & since Aeneas is a central figure in the Excidium Troiae, his mother Venus necessarily appears in the narrative, just as she does in almost every Latin tradition about Troy
/shostakovich/ editionprev: >>24930886
>>24938844deserved
i saw a magazine that said on the cover "cette gauche qui stoppe l'immigration" and a picture of a butch chick idk french but i think i get it
>>24938910my best efforts are almost always half assed compared to any brain dead normies, i am just so fucking lazy
i still remember this article in keyboard magazine from like 10 years ago where they interview some producer for lady gaga and they had to have known he used a preset from logic pro for the synth lead but they asked him soo how did u come up with that fabulous lead tho? and he's like we heh hell i can't just give away allll my secrets can i?
“Having sex is the easiest thing in the world. I could make a dating app profile and lose my virginity by dinnertime. But very few people alive have ever actually had *sex.* They’ve performed a social ritual, sort of like hazing. They’ve slapped their damp, clammy body against another damp, clammy body, like the wriggling of a suffocating fish. Maybe, possibly, their tongue came into contact with another tongue during the process. It doesn’t even sound enjoyable or enviable. They’ve never made love. They’ve never experienced passion, or tried to melt into another human being. To be crude, for a moment, it sounds like it’s more or less the equivalent of a salaryman dipping into the bathroom and having a 30-second wank, simply so that he can more-easily concentrate on whichever set of numbers he is currently moving from one column of an excel sheet to another. It’s nothing but a physical phenomenon, removed of any telos. There is no desire to unify, to become one; or even at a baser level, to control, to own. Leave alone any thought of the fruit of passion, the creation of another life inside of the woman; perish the idea. There is no yearning, no primal and beastly need even, other than a poor simulacra, the simple desire to fulfill a base bodily instinct.
>UHMMMM THAT'S A SEMANTIC ARGUMENT!!!surely all disagreements are down to semantics though? name a non-semantic disagreement
water is not h20cross the border and it becomes akwa
>>24938938Once again you didn't even watch one minute.You aren't lifting the lid of the other container, so you don't see what's in it. You're INFERRING or DEDUCING that it must contain sesame chicken because the container in your hand contains pepper beef.Read https://www.juristpanel.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/A-Rulebook-for-Arguments_compressed.pdfand forallx.openlogicproject.organd watch https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKI1h_nAkaQq5MDWlKXu0jeZmLDt-51on
>>24938938>literal semantics
>>24938982>You aren't lifting the lid of the other container, so you don't see what's in it.where did i say lifting the lid?>You're INFERRING or DEDUCINGyou believe a proposition. you could just as easily believe the other container has sesame chicken without the other propositions or even opening the pepper beef container. besides, that's not my point. my point is why would the proposition "the other container has sesame chicken" MATTER unless there was some conflict-you don't want to eat sesame chicken, you want to eat sesame chicken, you want the container to contain something else, etc.
>>24938988Every time you give a REASON for believing in something or doing something you're giving an argument. There doesn't have to be a conflict. Plenty of arguments are just you thinking to yourself.premise: I never leave the bathroom door openpremise: the bathroom door is openconclusion: someone else must have been hereYou literally spent a full day in this thread. You could have read a book in that time, but no, just shitpost your life away.
Sneaky Snakey Snake Edition>Old:>>24929120Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs).https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
>>24936620>reading about other people's romance fullfils youThis is one step away from cuckery
>>24937655I enjoyed going through the three First Age novels in one go (Children of Hurin - Beren & Luthien - The Fall of Gondolin). Keep in mind the first novel is the most complete and the latter two are more fragmented and conflicting. But if you're reading Tolkien at this level you know what your are getting into.
>>24937334this is a fiction problem in generalcasts are never going to be *that* big, and even decently sized casts are going to be spread out. Otherwise it's just very obvious *before* they even interact who will is likely to pair up. at most you'll get a situation where MC might get with A or B, and mayyyyybe C, and that's barely any better
>>24936816It's simple: Holden is the hero of the story. No matter how retarded he is, he never sees real consequences for his actions and everything always ends up being better for him. This happens over and over and over again.
I loved the books of the north. I liked the first half of Silver Spike and tolerated the rest, and Shadow Games.But this shit bored the fuck out of me. Had to force myself to even skim.Will it get better, worse, or the same from here?
Sapient Species, Races, and Miscellaneous Sapients EditionFAQ:>What is worldbuilding?Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"Yes, of course you can!>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.Old Thread: >>24748733
>>24868365I’m looking to create a supers settings for a story, and one of the major villains will be trying to figure out where supers can get the energy to do the bullshit they can do and use that to create an army of supers, like how Kryptonians are solar-powered, what are some of the different options and their pros and cons, and what do you do in your own supers setting if you have one? I was considering having my supers just outright alter reality, but it seems like that could get OP fast.
My wizard society is incredibly sexist and a plutarchy because magic talent is inherited so the strongest wizard has a harem of witches that are forced to keep pumping out babies so all spells women are allowed to work are about housekeeping, all alchemy is about fertility and low-level wizards get no witches for themselves.
My wizard society is sexist because male magic is orderly and reliable but female magic is chaotic and corrupting.
>>24937461Hands.
>>24937619I did. Power is more than just who can hit harder. Why else do you think guns didn't create perfect equality between the sexes?I'm modelling them off North European societies, the most egalitarian societies in the history of the human race.
How is one to interpret Socrates vis-à-vis Plato? I have been working through the "early" dialogues and keep wondering about the meaning of Plato placing these thoughts in the mind of Socrates. Thus far Socrates comes off as both playful and precise, nearly always leading his interlocutors into simple contradictions that they are always none-the-wiser to, until the great reveal at the end of the dialogue when they are found to be staunchly refuted. How much of this is Plato attempting to truthfully capture Socrates vs. Plato arguing his own ideas through the mouth of Socrates? I have heard in later dialogues Socrates is sometimes left in a more ambiguous light, or even conveyed as having lost an argument, but I have yet to read those.
>>24937291Read Xenophon's Socratic works and extrapolate. Start with Memorabilia.
>>24937297go back to your psychology class retard
>>24937316>t. karl popper
>>24937297>blocks you are path
>>24937295>>24937303>philosophy is *retarded contrarian definition of philosophy that opposes the entire history of western thought*impressively retarded
I want to become obsessed with success, what philosophers or novels would you recommend?
>>24938992Either you are, or you aren't. Accept your nature as a loser.
>>24938998Never. You can be whatever you want.
instead of reading books how about you get off your ass and actually start doing stuff
Does anybody come close to the prose of Nabokov?
>>24936724>raw emotion or human spirittrite phrases that describe trite works. nabokov is simply trying to achieve different effects than any easily recognizable sentimentality or a cheap stab at any stomach, and very frequently the effects that his narrators are trying to achieve are confused with his own intent.
>>24938547>trying to achieve certain effectsYuck
>>24937685no but i always heard good things
>>24937167Can't underrate someone as massively overrated as Dickens. No wonder nitwits love him.
Easily surpassed.
i'm moving to sneeden in the next year or two & am learning the language in preparation. what are some good swedish books with not-too-difficult prose i can pick up to help me along? i've got a diglot of tranströmer's complete works but that's it
>>24935815nothing
>>24938144Are you saying thereare no good swedish books or that op should not move tos weden or
>>24935815A Swedish Dictionary should do. At least it's more practically applicable information than going through stacks of scandinavian crime novels. A dictionary shows the soul of the people, the law of the land, and the repercussions for social dissidentarianism.>testimony: I'm doing a dictionary currently, I keep having the feeling that I already did it, but maybe that's the law of the land? It should be in the dictionary somewhere... where's the guidebook to this city, this province, this nation, this globe?????
>>24938274This was my common sense typing, NOT my knowledge of Swedish naturalisation laws (the latter of which I think I have 0 of). Oh wait! Don't they have military draft over there? You can open up doors to knowledge via that route, maybe?
>>24938274>>24938283???
Why are so many on this board obessed with appearing literary without actually going to the effort of reading genuine literary fiction, poetry, dramas, etc? What causes this?
>>24938957>even if it wasn't intentionalThe man who made up a whole race of subhuman orcs bred as dark invader savages was a racist?
>>24938961Personally I would say that he thought European culture was superior, but I'm not sure how much he actually intended to comment on directly.
>>24938952So, Lovecraft fan, Conan fan, or Pynchon fan? Come on which one made you mad I called you out.
>>24938972I am just not a fan of retards, which is why i called you out. Truth hurts huh
>>24938978Fair enough so you aren't a fan of any of those three and have no problem with them being added to manchild core charts.
What am I going to gain from reading this?
>>24938661Lies
>>24938661Syncretic thinking will increase 10 fold, but at the cost of sounding slightly deranged. Great for writing college essays if you can ameliorate some of the jargon. Personally liked the part on anthropology the best. Otherwise it's a bit repetitive- they write something to the effect of 'the oft maligned innocent trickle that is incest' to make the same point about the oedipus complex over and over, and it reads like they're just riffing. iirc they "wrote" it by having someone type out a conversation they had.
>>24938661Not much if you're reading the Penguin edition
>>24938661i wish i knew how to play the guattari
this was one of the first pomo leftyish classics that i was like man this is kinda dumb
Ἁλικαρνασσόθεν edition>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·>>24877858>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw>Mέγα τὸ ANE·https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg>Work in progress FAQhttps://rentry dot co/n8nrkoAll Classical languages are welcome.
>>24919897Just finished it. Now I will probably read some shorter book, maybe Tacitus's dialogue of the orators.
Alright my leading theory after giving it some thought is a total-body-response approach and making it fun for a little kid, reading very simplified text trailing a couple years behind English (so like if the kid is hitting see spot run around 4-5, do the latin equivalent with guidance around 5-6). Outside of absolutely core vocab tailor the vocab towards one very specific and readable text (especially for the simplified readings). For example, the gospel of John has like 1200 lemmas. A story about fishermen repairing a net may only have so much carryover to broad Latin literacy but it will help with the gospels. Mary had a little lamb carries over well, etc. Then you could read along together in the Vulgate at a surprisingly young age with the goal of unguided extensive reading (with either glossing or a parallel) by middle school. I think from there the path gets more clear because the kid is old enough to get more explicit explanations, and it’s largely just a matter of keeping up extensive reading that progresses in difficulty until they’re adults. Maybe with a sufficient pace in the Latin a motivated teacher/parent could spend a chunk of high school doing the basics of Ancient Greek.One might scoff at this but it’s hardly as ambitious as the goal of yesteryear and it uses much more efficient methods, with an at least 13 year timeframe.
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>>24937277Since she runs at the level of a disabled 8 year old i’m gonna run this program with my wife to preview its effectiveness and to become capable of teaching Latin. She said she wants to learn. Gonna get that book for 3rd graders for her.
>>24938773>CaesaroidPompey bros where we at?
