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Camp of the Saints got the details wrong, but it was correct in the essential points.>Increasing demographic disparities between the first world and the third world will inevitably lead to a shifting balance of power>White countries will be demographically replaced by more aggressive and fertile foreign populations, with the complicity and collaboration of western elites>White western elites know it will be a horrific disaster, but a mixture of moral cowardice, an ideological commitment to egalitarianism and nihilism prevents them from acting>Churches will be heavily involved in the great replacement, and the media will beat down any opposition to it with moral blackmail and shaming>Everyday whites will be opposed, but will be pacified with claims from government leaders that it will be okay, and the fear of being seen as a "racist" prevents them from speaking up>Non-whites will in white countries have a covetous attitude towards whites, and will hound them to share every space with them. And will angle for intermarriage incessantly.>White women will end up raped and enslaved, enslaved sexually, as what we have seen in Rotherham, weekly in the news in Italy. or at the German festivals after the migrant crisis>Third worlders will become boastful about their conquests after they've passed a certain demographic threshold.>Third world settlers in white countries will rewrite the nature of their settlement in white countries to be a historical vindication of colonialism. The moralizing discussions that took place in the early stages of the great replacement between whites are ignored, un-thanked and forgotten.>White Socialists will be deluded and think they can achieve a synthesis transformation that will liberate western society from racism, guilt and capitalism. But will be disposed of by the non-whites who are conservative for their actual racial interests. As we've seen with the Gaza ticket emerging in the UK and Islamists taking over left leaning parties.>Anti-racist and hate speech legislation forbids Europeans from vocally opposing and organizing political opposition to their replacement. Actual French anti-racist legislation is mentioned explicitly in The Camp of the Saints to emphasize this very point.>Third world migrants will, after a certain threshold, transform western countries into where they come from, making them an extension of the third world. They'll do this by leeching economically off of businesses and the government until the financial system collapses. Any present extrapolation of the cost of non-white migrants in Europe, and the future demographic trends, shows this to be trueComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24842922They want to ally with Israel against more foreign threats like Iran, or even Turkey (such as in WW1).The only reason to argue Israel is our main antagonist (rightfully), is because they control Europe and America. Which is more of a sore point for you than for us.
>>24843284isis does. the monarchies and arab nationalist dictatorships are straightforward western puppets
>>24840617Dunno, I only read through the foreword and stuff of the new translation Ask me again after I finish the book myself
>>24840668For this Halloween go see a video of a high-school sock hop in Greeley, CO in the 50s
>>24843405i've already read "the america i have seen" so that would be redundant
This may very well be the most manipulative and dishonest book I've ever read, and I've read Atlas Shrugged.
>>24840637>>24840648You might just genuinely be retarded. You clearly have zero understanding of what Dostoevsky's worldview even is and have somehow missed the entire psychological aspects of his work that make him so influential to figures such as Nietzsche, Freud etcetera. Also keep in mind, this book is also the first part of a duology in which Alyosha would go on to become a political radical and try to assassinate the Tsar lmao.
>>24842814Read the thread, dweeb.>>24842953Atheists are not monolithic, retard. Nor is atheism an organized belief system. Atheism does not prescribe any beliefs whatsoever; quite the opposite. Atheism is the lack of a belief in God, as evidenced by the etymology of the name. Look up what a strawman is. Protip: it isn't a character from Wizard of Oz.
>>24843105>"his overt religious manipulation is okay because he layers it with a veneer of psychology!"I could also just read Tolstoy and read a psychological novel that evolves naturally, with characters that aren't extreme caricatures with no basis in reality.
>>24843105>consider this second part of the book that doesn't exist the absolute state of dostocels
>total moral nihilistSmerdyakov wasn't even that, once he got the money he was unable to use itBut it's true that TBK has a rather rigid moral system where it's not just being nihilistic is bad but also being a rationalist is bad as well
Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs).https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg>Previous:>>24823223>Thread Question: What's your favourite decade of sci-fi?
>>24843296For all of its faults, WoT is leagues better than Malazan.
He maybe got the idea from D&D, but what he wrote is not elf-like at all. The tiste liosan maybe, but that's like 1/3 of them>What do you call green guys with tusks who are obsessed with power and conquest?'"So you did not read past GotM? Because that's just Reast, and he is fucking retired in later books to chill with his dead catThe rest of them are just grumpy funny old men/women who hate civilization and prefer to live isolated. And despite being good fighters they are all high mages. They are probably the smartest race in those books tooThere is nothing Orc-like about them
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>>24842904I feel the same way. I don't particularly care to read such a thing, but I hate how every author seems to always point it out. Same goes for things like slavery, although with that there are eastern novels that seem to be okay with it.
>>24843392>obsessed with power and conquest?'"So you did not read past GotM? Because that's just ReastIsn't the villain in the second book a Jaghut warlord too?
I read girly books to sissify myself
IQ test editionhttps://www.writingtoiq.comPrevious: >>24829870/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQRESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvCPlease limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Good news /wg/! Somehow /wng/ has gotten even worse than this antiquated thread so I've decided to return.How's everyone doing? Are we pro trad pub or pro self pub these days?
Why I can't get people to publish my poemsMaybe they just suck?
>>24843241What went wrong there this time?
Since /wng/ is dead, would this be the appropriate thread for talking about the upcoming RR writathon?>>24843294The RI spammer kept spamming more and more. Some people wanted to split the thread to get away from it, but supposedly jannies deleted the thread. And the RI spammer then made the new /wng/ thread with just spam. For some reason that's considered okay.
>>24842825Based ESL
Made a similar thread on /tv/, so I'll it here as well.As someone whose entire media consumption is anime, how much am I missing?I have zero reason to not read book, I just... never started.
>>24840427>t. dbz watcher
>>24831359>it's not bait>there are probably millions of people like this out thereYou're missing out on almost everything. All the best anime ever made put together don't even cover 0.1% of the total depth and breadth of the entirety of art. They probably don't even cover half of the best manga ever written. Even webnovels and light novels are an entirely new world when compared to just anime, let alone literature.So yeah, read nigga. And watch movies. And listen to music. Goddamn.
>>24841562Any tips for that?
>>24841562I might as well ask for recommendations in how to get into music as well.Nowadays most of what I listen to is music I discovered via anime or that I "Shazam'd" from some popular video.
>>24831712A lot of video essays site books in their descriptions. Read some of those
Is it safe to say that Lord of the Rings is the most abused work of art ever created? Does that not mean it's an artistic failure overall?
>>24842449LOTR is fundamentally Catholic so obviously it is right-wing, and obviously it is political. Because religion, public life and politics are never divided from one another. LOTR is reinvented Germanic paganism infused with Christian morals. Gandalf is the prophet, Frodo the priest, Aragon the king, all three together represent the triple function of Christ.
This seems like the kind of a thread a shitlib who is definitely Not Mad would make
>>24840206It's pretty hilarious the American government, which is basically Mordor, is using this movie for its propaganda.
>>24843370They're playing the long game. They're not trying to entertain, but rewrite history. Repeat a lie enough times and it becomes truth. This generation isnt falling for it, but with time future generations will legitimately believe Alexander Hamilton was black, and so was Queen Elizabeth and Beethoven and half the population of Victorian and medieval England. It will happen. It's just a matter of persistence.
>>24840206I’ll be honest, the thing I value most out of LOTR is the Eowyn/Witch King Rule 34 fanart. Tolkien should have had him drag her off to Angmar, a queen for a witch king
If Matthew was a deciple of Jesus, why did he feel the need to copy Mark's account verbatim instead of telling his own account?
>>24834090Does Matthew and Luke mention mark?If they don't mention one of their sources, why would they mention another?
>>24839392>whether they be Catholic, EO, or ProtestantI'm going to assume from this that by ""orthodox"" he means Christians who aren't special skeptics like him who believe but not in that lame way where you actually believe but in that cool way where you think everything is totally contingent and fallible, dude. Doesn't help that the other anon is obviously not a Christian at all, though.But of course as Christians we ought affirm divine inspiration, which does not contradict that the scriptures were written by specific men, and indeed the same specific men named by tradition.
>>24831294So how do we know they're legit?
>>24839251>>24837162>>24837173>>24837190People will say luke interviewed eyewitnesses but somehow none of them mentioned the army of zombies that went around Jerusalem right after Jesus died (as stated in Matthew)Can you explain this? Matthew says they talked to many people, quite publicly, nobody mentioned this to investigative journalist Luke?
>>24842587Because he didn't and it's just a memeAll Luke says is that "just like the original testimonials, this one is accurate" which doesn't even imply that it's based on those testimonials
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With political debates, what I often find myself disagreeing with before anything else is not even the surface level claims, like whether a particular thing is one way or another, but the presuppositions on which the question itself depends. Like if somebody asked you whether you think flowers smell blue or red, wouldn't the correct response to such a question be to say that there is no such thing as something smelling blue or red instead of saying either blue or red?
>>24841358You will never be a real serial killer.
>>24843364Which is why philosophers like Alasdair McIntyre said politics in the US has become impossible due to its fractured culture and lack of cohesive, shared historical identity and moral foundations.
Gonna get very drunk + high tomorrow night.
it's 1:30 am and I'm jerking it to some hardcore fresh porn
do you left a personal note inside books, /lit/?
I considering writing on the pages of a book sacrilege. I don't know why, I really dislike acquiring secondhand books with someone else's notes in especially if they are in ink and they obscure the text itself.OP's photo I would consider a worthy exception to have someone gift you a book with a personal note.
>>24843200I find little notes and passages interesting when the books are sufficiently old. I don't find it interesting when a retard has decided to underline or circle things at random or constantly scribble in the margins.
I would kill for an Amy
>>24843146if you make a present of a book, yes it's the right thing to do.
>>24843146If it isn't a larp, the fact that this deep show of affection ended up in a cheap bookstore is metaphysically depressing. How fickle love is!
What did you think of “Brave New World”?I was personally immersed overall into its world. For a dystopian future it was rather pacifistic, except for the gas bombs. Like for example they didn’t shut down John for protesting and throwing away the soma outside of the hospital. Also they didn’t execute anyone, they just moved them far away from the civilization.Also I have a question, who exactly was Ford? Was he a scientist, a rebel or a dictator? How did he swift the world into this? How did he get the government to ban all media before him?
>>24841303The book didn’t describe him doing that. Did you pick up a clue by yourself?>>24842285How did he became so influential then.
>>24842125>It was less about genuinely trying to find enlightenment or live a decent life, and more him being traumatized at how pathetic his mother was growing upNo, it was about not wanting to experience a sanitized life of hedonism and shallowness, buttressed by literal brainwashing and drug abuse. Did you even read the book?>>24842343Fuck are you talking about bitch
>>24842647Enough time has passed since BNW and 1984 were written that the current generation of readers sees BNW as not that bad and 1984 as unrealistic. They're hopeless.
>>24840335freedom freedom freedom freedom freedom freedom freedom
>>24842343>How did he became so influential thenBecause he pioneered the assembly line and that's the basis for how people are made and their civilization is run, retard. Hence turning crosses into Ts for the Model T. Are you the same dumbass who thought Helmholtz and Bernard were really being sent to a parallel utopia for freethinkers? Lol.
When you read a book, do you visualize the landscape and the people, like a movie scene flowing through your mind?
>>24842322Yes. I feel bad for aphantasiacs. I wonder how much better my imagination would be if I read more as a child.
>>24843052You can't be serious. If people could look at something and draw it well, everyone would be making art.I'm imagining 4 right now. I'm spinning it around. I just sliced it in half. Your reply is cope.
>>24842322Sometimes I get really vivid imagery and sometimes I get pretty much nothing. It depends on attention, personal appeal, familiarity, probably other things. I don't believe people that claim they're constantly envisioning some 3d movie tho
I can rotate the characters in my mind
>>24842322Yes
Any book capturing the millennial experience yet?
>>24843313That's because they prefer to cream themselves over cheesy horror movies instead of reading and writing
>>24843309>Back to the Future >Monty Python and the Holy Grail >Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles >arcade centers That's Gen X.
>>24843346You are quite naive for thinking this.We are being folded over to be forgotten.And what is happening on the world stage is a dog and pony show. None of what you see anymore is an earnest attempt to be honest.
>>24843346>The last decade has been a blast.And gen Z has had no role whatsoever.
>>24843373I hate this fucking learned helplessness that's infected a lot of people. Your enemies are not invulnerable.
He keeps talking about hiw the east is better than the west because she follows "tradition". He explains what tradition isn't but never what it actually is . Is it just spirituality?
>>24842353He was presumably referring to the Tradition policy tree in Sid Meier's Civilization V.
>he didn't start at Introduction to Hindu Doctinesoh là là
>>24842375Holy shit you’re retarded, it’s literally the opposite of that.
>>24842373>>24842374Thanks GPT
This dude made me realize I might be a lib at heart>tradition Who cares man
