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What does /lit/ generally think of books written by anons/namefags? Do they shill their own work here, and how are they received? Assuming the work is freely available.
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>>24859302
Even if you don't hate the future, the fact that people are still talking about a book 50+ years after it was published is a pretty strong endorsement.
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>>24862046
>themes are supposed to overwhelm you.
it's not a good idea
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I should've written a shittier book so you'd all have reasons to talk about it.
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>>24862160
My goal is 200 years after publishing. Knowing damn well I'm not here to see that happen, I made sure to write like I was already dead. Made my day seeing more than one person call it a to be cult classic in their reviews. They weren't critics, just consumers, but it was still really awesome.

Wasn't fiction btw
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>>24862046
If your goal is to build a writing career you have to follow the rules. Debut novels are not supposed to be ambitious or complex. They are supposed to be simple and short. The further you stray from 50k, the less likely you are going to get published. You have enough material in your novel that you can probably cut it down to a publishable novel. Don't waste the opportunity you still have. If you continue to be stubborn and stick to this script of writing something unmarketable, then you will not make it.

>>24859131
The lizard beginning is actually a good way to start. There are more people who want to read horror than literary, and agents like that mix too. Look at Gabe's book.

Is there some reason you think you can't be traditionally published?

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Is it worth it in 2025?
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>>24862380
Her thesis is accessible online. Go ahead and tell me it actually says anything of substance instead of regurgitating leftoid points for 6 gazillionth time using academia's version of corpospeak.

The real blackpill is reading papers from the 70s. The decline is in quality is massive.
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>>24861980
Amelia is such a pretty name. Why would she shorten it to Ally? One more thing I can fix about her.
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>>24862913
Because she's a proud ally of transpeople, duh
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>>24859787
>i dont understand the rage
nigga try to explain. Just type out your feelings as they happen using words that describe them as close to what and how you feel them, basicly be honest with yourself first me second and just type whatever shit comes to mind cuz. Shiiieeeeiiiit you have no idea how much bs that drops off your shoulders being non censoring and staring reality straight in its bitch ass face and still doing you

>chick with a phd
ayo ima keep it a buck, the only thing i see here is a bitch thats old now and basicly useless. Everything ahe did was based on the absence of strength and not in the pursuit of acquiring it. Bitch is basicly not righteous about her shit so yeah, idc about no funky old hoe
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>>24859787
her "phd" is about how if you notice nonwhites smell bad it's because you're racist, i'm not overly familiar with academia but surely that's 99.9 percentile niche and libtarded

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What does /lit/ think of her works?

Personally, I feel she’s surprisingly solid even though she can be a bit edgy for edgy’s sake at times.
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>>24862518
She came on my radar a while back and I downloaded a bunch of her work. I'm probably going to start with Wise Children.
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>fairy tales but with a feminist spin
Uhhhhh no thanks
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Postmodernistslop
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Anyone read The Passion of New Eve? Or The Sadeian Woman?
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>>24863044
>>24863134
seething moids

and why is it ancient Greek?
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>>24862586
https://archive.org/details/allspanishmethod0000guil
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf8XN5kNFkheNPqxA2mTuX65COM1R3S90

https://archive.org/details/pocoapocoanelem00avilgoog
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf8XN5kNFkhe4D2BPBKaUb2JvDHuzAGPI
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>>24862759
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_method_(education)
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>>24859985
>let me shill for Classical Persian
I'm honestly surprised more anons on /lit/ don't advocate for the Persian language. I mean Goethe learned it to read and write poetry...I mean West–östlicher Divan anyone?
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welcone to the /lit/ teahouse
join, join, join!
https://discord.gg/rUkmHH7hS
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>>24862759
you hire a nanny fluent in ancient Greek to raise you

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two sentence horror
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>>24861986
and so (finally fully approaching, distance traversed and others matters sorted out), I reached for the handle (unsuspecting), but as though a guardian angel over me sought to save me a tingle rushed down me spine and my hand halted (or, not halted but rather was made immobile) and a sweat grew on my brow and I recalled oftentimes we do not know who is on the other side of doors and me britches got sullied and me teeth clenched, and I almost felt that (to protect myself) I must never open again this door lest this unknown knocker still be out there, lurking, and I imagined the days growing ever-longer as I was made to wait ad infinitum for some conclusion to this tension of unknowing the knocker and unknowing his presence (whether he left or whether he be still lurking, some malicious purpose assuredly), and caught in this imagination of a dull infinitude my eyes watered and my vision blurred, pulled further and further from the here from the now and closer to that endless tension of never-resolving, and so drawn into the fantasy was I that almost I completely lost sight, lost awareness, of the world around me, but (that guardian angel once again through her subtle signs saving me) just in that moment light gleamed off the peephole, light right into my eyes, recalling to me it's existence and I sighed (assured in a safe way to check whether the person knocking is known or unknown) and (hand still immobile on handle) leaned my head forward and took a look-see through that peephole heart half-stopped, but soul steeled as much as it could I took that look-see only to be met by a glass much stained by years of disuse, so that now it was all grimy and nothing could be seen and nothing could be done, and once again that mood came upon me, that rush of drawn out dullness, that ever-going nothingness, and in a panic of it and all it was, all it would be (certainly soonly present), and in that panic of it my hand (previously immobile on the handle) rushed to seize the nearly stopped heart, and gripping at the chest feeling a saviour - at that chest, in that breastpocket o'er the heart, was felt the fabric of the handkerchief - and again I breathed a sigh, relieved, again I thanked the angels above, and again I made resolutions to the ending of this tension, now bringing up that handkerchief (before bringing it back down to first wet it with my spittle, then bring it back up again), bringing up that handkerchief to that dirtied grimy unused peephole, and at last relieving that peephole of it's grime, assuring me finally that this tension was to be over, and so I pressed both palms to the door (for support), and I leaned my body forward slowly (slowly as one might slowly open a door, afraid it may creak - somehow afraid of my body creaking and letting that unknown knocker know of a man beyond the door, which might make him all the more persistent, might make him stake out this place and so return me to the much dreaded waiting forevermore),
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>>24861987
and I leaned forward (at this point my breathing stilled, or rather stopped entirely, clenched throat blocking the airways involuntary, just an automatic response as a dog might yelp at roars of thunder, I clenched closed my throat at the after-presence of knocking), and leaning forward (I made a point to blink my eyes several hundred times, for they were still wetted, still blurred, and if blurred, if wetted, they could not see, and what use a peephole if the peeper's eyes peep could not I said to myself, so I blinked over over over again to brush out the water to clear the vision to peep the knocker and know who he is), and making that lean forward (at this point I became paranoid of everything - in my lean I thought of the grimy peephole (did I really wash it off properly), I thought of the initial knocking (had I really heard anything or was it some schizo-perceptual derangement), I thought of other entrances to this abode (windows ran aside my room, and though high up in an apartment some maleficent force could will itself, be it through ladder or rope or acrobatics or mayhaps superhuman ability, up and through, terrorising me even if I kept locked this door), I thought I heard something new through the wood, some breathing or worse yet laughing (like he knew I was soon to make some folly, and he soon to pounce upon it and rip me apart thereupon) affirming the presence still (for I had really been hoping that that man would be gone even though he was so persistent in that knocking I had hoped I would look through and see nothing and be relieved that nothing was there, though also simultaneously fearing to see nothing, thus the knowledge of the knocker unresolved, and left wondering what if he was hiding, or what if he were pursuing me through some other means, like the aforementioned window, or what if not pursuing but pursued, and he had already made his way and I was to only turn around and look and see and be gone in just that same time)), and so leant forward fully at last, eye to the glass, and I peeped that peephole to see who was beyond. It was a black man.
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>>24861989
>It was a black man.
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>>24859033
right in the feels with this one
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>>24845183
Lost. You made me belly laugh you fucker

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Post your recent cops or anything else you're reading.
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You guys only buy used books?
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San diego anon and try to make it to The Last Bookstore whenever im in LA, nice selection and great prices, each of these was ~$3-5.
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>>24857176
I swapped out a book at a little free library nearby for this
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>>24861590
No, but I do love me a gently-used...used book. Especially if it's much cheaper than a new copy.
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>>24858845
>>24858850
Kino choices

Drop what you are reading and read or listen to this immediately. It’s a seminal, generation defining work. It strikes at the tap root of everything going on today, dissects modernity in doing so, and identifies the connection between and subsequently obliterates everything from global capitalism to environmental degradation to leftism to trannies to posthumanism.

Reinforces my suspicion that the 17th century philosophers who launched this global revolution were crypto satanists after all. Bacon being a Freemason and Descartes torturing dogs doesn’t help.
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>>24863015
>>24863069
you're the reason this board sucks
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>>24861101
Good recommendation for once. I'll check it out.
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>>24863153
All you did was made a giant straw man to attack the author. Odds are you are a tranny who is having a melty over Paul pointing out you are a proto-Transhuman guinea pig for global capital.
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>>24863161
>he posted on the proto-Transhuman-guinea-pig-for-global-capital board.
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>>24863197
That’s leftypol, but if the shoe fits it fits, and seems like it does for you.

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>spends more than $20 on a book
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>>24863182
Ok, but these I'm going to pass down for hundreds of years, the fingertips of my progeny gracing the page just as mine currently are. WTF are you giving the future besides balding genes?
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>>24863182
>paying for words
>not pirating books over library wifi on his stolen smart phone
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>>24863182
I have multiple 500 dollar books currently being made. The cheap ones are 200 or so. That’s the price situation of fine press.
I actually find it bizarre someone who enjoys books thinks it’s all about the words on the page and not the pages and book as an object of art. On the same board people can complain about the page quality or printing of their 20 dollar books being shit. It’s a fascinating contradiction.

Even if you’re poor there’s plenty of letterpressed, leatherbound, illustrated editions you could actually buy for that 20 books. They’re just old.
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I just spent $80 on a single book
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>>24863203
Same but it is older than Napoleon

REFORGED FROM RUIN Edition

Stubbed >>24854248

>What is /wng/ - Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.

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>>24862946
There's a type of beetle called tortoise beetle, one specific species where the males duel with these shield like protrusions is Acromis Spinifex
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>>24863133
sky pride I guess
the thing about "fun group of characters" is that that's usually found family bullshit and I don't have much tolerance for that
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>>24861991
>Genre?
military space opera tragedy
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>>24861342
Yes it is worth holding back. Two reasons.

>1 - Ads Are Already Annoying
Nobody likes ads. Ads are annoying by nature, even when it's for something we like, want, or even need. So when someone clicks on an ad, they're giving you a chance but they're already frowning. We stop hating the ad when the product advertised is actually good. In your case, that product is your wn. If I click an ad and see it has 3 chapters, I'm not going to read them and say "Hey, this is neat, I should keep an eye on this!" What I'm thinking is "You dragged me here to look at this? Why did I waste my fucking time, ugh! Time to scroll tiktok instead."

When someone clicks an ad, you have One Chance to make them stay. You need to pitch them a good product. That means quality, yes, but you need quantity too. Think of it like a dish; If you serve me the best food of my life, but all you have for me is a teeny tiny bite-sized sampling, I'm going to want more. And if I can't have it or have to wait for it, I'm not going to say "Well, what I had was good at least", I'll say "Well now I'm STILL hungry, so I guess I'll go somewhere else to eat my fill."

>2 - Sunk Cost Fallacy
Have you ever read something that's kind of mediocre, not bad but not amazing either, but it has potential so you keep reading and even if you run out of chapters, you STILL check in for the next release cause you're already 60 chapters in?

You want this effect when someone reads your wn.

If someone clicks on your ad, then ideally, you want them to get invested. Let them lay down their roots so they don't leave. If the soil's too shallow, they'll uproot themselves easily.


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>>24863239
>Sunk Cost Fallacy
This is a completely foreign mentality to me. If I read something for 300 chapters and it's not paying off, then the pressure to stop wasting my time just gets higher.

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More like picrel? Books that show the complexity and depth of human experience and intellectual life before modernity, actually takes them seriously, revives what has been lost or forgotten, etc.

Also, anyone ever utilized the mind palace methodology described herein? I experimented last night and just permanently memorized a list of ingredients on a box lol. Seems extremely potent.
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>>24858455
>AI which can effectively act as God
Nah sorry chief, God doesnt need electricity to operate. But cool book
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>>24861937
yes, chris brennan is great. He also has done a ton of audio stuff going very in depth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlX6pnbDt_M&list=PLBqWtMxa3PnZ6lID3UmKI_ivZO02Jaa-J&index=1

For a more classical introduction Ptolemy's tetrabiblos was the historical standard however they all talk about super specific techniques/wording that may make it much less accessible.
https://www.amazon.com/Tetrabiblos-Claudius-Ptolemy/dp/1933303123/
I would 100% recommend reading at least the first couple chapters of this where he establishes how to look at what astrology actually is though,
You can read that here it's just like the first 13 pages (and you can see how quickly it gets into the weeds after that)
https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/1A*.html#1

A good more general introduction people do now is just getting your chart on something like https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/traditional-astrology and asking an LLM like claude to explain some of the significance. (If you do your chart and scroll down there's a data export on bottom)

It may hallucinate/make stuff up or get stuff wrong (especially if you do the image) but if you do the actual text describing the positions it should be pretty accurate but it won't capture the traditional approach as well unless you ask it to.
Good way to just get a general sense of the stuff involved since you can ask.
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>>24858473
You're cool don't worry so much.
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>>24860812
>So you're saying you need to ask where the bathroom is multiple times before you remember even though you've used it multiple times?
if it's a big and confusing place yeah. and like that other poster pointed out, there's a difference between having an intuitive sense of knowing how to get somewhere and conjuring a visual representation of that place. the latter takes way more effort and seems like overkill for the task of memorizing random things. in fact I'd have to spend a lot more time memorizing the layout of the place and what it looks like than actually memorizing the things themselves.
>>24860935
in a rough, sloppy sketch, sure. I'd probably be bumping into things and misjudging distances along the way. idk how that's beneficial for memory.
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>>24861947
How do you know God doesn't need electricity to operate. That could be literally the exact mechanism by which God operates. We can't know.

The electric universe theory certainly seems to show God is electric.

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Basically 3 times a week before sleep I think about what I learned from Evola, Guenón, Spengler, Hitler, Goebbels articles, Bible, H. Belloc, etc.
Reading a book and then forgetting about it it's like introducing your brain to early Alzheimer aka only instant things matter
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join the /lit/ teahouse and discuss your favourite controversial authors! https://discord.gg/u3SMtuSV
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>>24863192
>>24863213
Israelis who cant read books in english because their vocabulary only extend to slang and meme words
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Today I'm remembering about a Hitler's speech where he mentions in detail the jews behind FDR and Churchill. He names them

It's a well known speech but 99.9% of documentaries dont show it, instead they show Total War or the 1939 speech.

If you cant remember this speech I'm talking about, how can you learn about anything?
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Through a thousand years of inbreeding, often practiced within a very narrowcircle, the Jew has in general preserved his race and character much more rigorously than many of the peoples among whom he lives. And as a result, there is living amongst us a non-German, foreign race, unwilling and unable to sacrifice its racial characteristics, to deny its feeling, thinking and striving, and whichnone the less possesses all the political rights that we ourselves have. The feelings of the Jew are concerned with purely material things; his thoughts and desires even more so. The dance round the golden calf becomes a ruthless struggle for all those goods which, according to our innermost feelings, should not be the highest and most desirable things on this ear
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>>24863221
cf.?

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There still hasn't been enough talk about this, considering that it took place this year.
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>>OP does not post his own take
>Perhaps it's shit if you can't even say anything about it
I produced a fake movie poster for a hypothetical Studio Ghibli adaptation. I figured that kind of spoke for itself (about 1000 words or so).
>24829071
>Why does the cover feature a rendition of U.C. San Diego's central library? Not that I mind... it just seems odd.
It is both a setting and character during a pivotal scene. One might say that it walks the story to its climax.

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Not sure if this is /lit/, but I don't know of a more appropriate board.

There's a peculiar phenomenon of "high school essay" style. You can always tell that an essay was written by a high schooler. It has certain cliches.
>Overly broad claims e.g. "people agree that..."
>Very rigid structure. 3 "main" paragraphs, one of them always padded to make it appear the same size as the other two.
>Using first person pronouns is a taboo.

The most paradoxical thing about this is that this style is looked down upon in academia. A student is thus forced to relearn how to write essays. So why does the school system even bother with this? Is it because your average Karen teacher cannot into academic writing?
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zoomer here - in high school (and sometimes uni, but i can't speak to the humanities major experience) we are taught to write according to a strict intro-body 1- body 2- body3- conclusion format, hence the abundance
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Euronigger here. No recollection how we were tought to write, but I remember having massive trouble coming up with mostly filler in essays. I didn't particularly enjoy writing, but 10 years later went on to write a book lol.
Good topic OP
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>>24862870
It's shocking how many people and HS'ers cannot make a coherent argument, not even about complex subjects but things they love like which video game is the best or their most favorite. It often comes down to Circular reasoning, Ad hom, and appeal to emotion:
>it just is the best ok, it is.
>everyone who hates this video game is a bitch
>my lil brother and I used to play this together.
Don't blame intro, 3 paragraphs, conclusion, blame a lack of intellectual need that originates from online echo chambers and low expectations.
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>>24863183
I struggle with putting real substance behind why I like something, I started to take notes while reading, I'm doing the exercise of justifying what I like concretely, but it's really difficult, any advice or am I doomed sub 70iq?
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>>24863183
>>it just is the best ok, it is.
>>everyone who hates this video game is a bitch
>>my lil brother and I used to play this together.
Never have I ever seen this. But then again I went to a fancy private school, not some ghetto zoo marketed as a school.

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Is reading books a feminine hobby?
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>>24862664
unfortunately, these stats are no longer reliable because of the ability to self report and the prevalence of retarded males who pretend they are women in online spaces
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>>24862788
Isn't it crazy how the vast majority of trannies are literally just dudes pretending on the Internet? It creates this fake consensus that gives the more mentally ill ones courage to go outside dressed as a woman.

Hey trannies, is there a name for this? People who pretend to be trans online, but put on their work boots and report to Larry's autobody shop like a normal Joe in real life?
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>>24862724
I just finished reading a Helen DeWitt novel. I’m just accurately describing what women mostly read. It’s right there on the graph. I do mostly hate them though
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>>24862664
I assume all of those female sci-fi readers are """female"""
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>>24862799
TRVTH NVKE

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>review nonchalantly employs such idiosyncratic figures of speech so obviously taken right from the book of which review is subject


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