I'm really enjoying this so far. Don't see ti mentioned here often (or ever?). The narration is great. It feels conspiratorial and ironic, like he is leaning over my shoulder and laughing with me at the vanity of these people. Where are the Stendhal enjoyers at?
>>24938995Read Vizinczey's An Innocent Millionaire. The man was a disciple of Balzac and Stendhal and adapted their observational, idiosyncratic prose to the modern world. It is a masterpiece.I interacted with him a few times on Twitter. He died recently. ;_;
>>24939280>Guy who has only read The Red and the Black, reading his second Stendhal novel: Getting a lot of 'Red and Black' vibes from this...
>>24938995Just finished reading it last week, in French. Really enjoyed it.
My translation said julien sorel was of below average height, but I never hear anyone saying thatIs that not present in the original/nost translations?
>>24947720He is a twink bro, Narrator says so a dozen different times in the first part of the book. He is a pretty little twink and the french girls love him.
Is it a meme?
>>24947383It's a literary translation
>>24947047I prefer A.D. Melville's, but both are good. Her word choices are a bit pedestrian and the lack of indication of the original lines is annoying for cross-referencing.
>>24947047I know Latin. I don't need a translation.
>>24947547he lines are numberedIt doesn't seem like pedestrian word choice to me>She breaths dark, toxic venom through her bones>and scatters poison deep inside her lungs.>To give her jealousy a focal point,>she makes her see her sister, and her sister’s>auspicious marriage, and the god, depicted>gorgeously. She makes everything look grand.>Goaded by this, Aglauros is consumed>by hidden grief. She groans with anguish day>and night, and melts away most wretchedly>in slow decay, like ice in broken sunlight.
I went to go volunteer sorting books to be donated on thursday and had a great time. there were cupcakes and a pretty girl was there too and i got to touch and sort hundreds of books. Then at the end they let me go through the big rolling trash can of books that were too damaged to be donated and take whatever i wanted. i took a bunch including virgil's aenids and some random historical books and also a nice copy of peter camenzind that wasn't even really damaged. im going back next week
>>24947709Sounds great anon
>>24947709Jealous! Keep us updated on your haul and any interesting finds.
>>24947709Did you speak to the pretty girl?
Just ordered thisWhat am I getting into?
Been reading the KJV cover to cover for a couple months. Working through the Pauline stuff right now. I can't imagine it not being deeply enriching for almost anyone but there are bound to be chunks that are boring or tedious no matter what your primary interests are.
>>24946147A bunch of fables written by a canannite tribe that much like their Carthagian cousins, used to sacrifice their children to demons to the side of genocide and foreskin collecting
>>24947336A little bit but it's not exactly detailed. It mostly comes from Paul, who never met Jesus and was speaking to a different audience, so he emphasized different things (e.g. faith vs. observance of the law)
remember that god loves you but don't piss him off or he floods the planet and kills 99% of us.
>>24947516We're about due for a good cleansing, wouldn't you say?
>The red thread of fate (Chinese: 姻緣紅線; pinyin: Yīnyuán hóngxiàn), also referred to as the red thread of marriage, the invisible string theory and other variants, is an East Asian belief originating from Chinese mythology. It is commonly thought of as an invisible red cord around the finger of those that are destined to meet one another in a certain situation, as they are "their one true love".>According to Chinese legend, the deity in charge of "the red thread" is believed to be Yuè Xià Lǎorén (月下老人), often abbreviated to Yuè Lǎo (月老), the old lunar matchmaker god, who is in charge of marriages. In the original Chinese myth, the thread is tied around both parties' ankles, while in Japanese culture it is bound from a male's thumb to a female's little finger. In modern times, though, it is common across both these cultures to depict the thread being tied around the fingers, often the little finger. The color red in Chinese culture symbolises happiness and it is also prominently featured during Chinese weddings.>The two people connected by the red thread are destined lovers, regardless of place, time, or circumstances. This magical cord may stretch or tangle, but never break.Any novels or poems cover this?
>>24944807There are more than two billion indians and chinese. Meaning that your true love is likely to be mapped to one of them which makes this a shit theory
>>24944807does the chinese tradition actually have our notion of romantic, chivalrous love and courtship, or is this a modern reimagining?
>>24947504My favorite Chinese love superstition is that whoever gets splashed by boiling water when placing a live dog into a stew pot is destined for an impassioned love affair.
Oh how I wish people were fated to find soulmates and live happily ever after. Unfortunately life isn't that kind.It seems like in many stories fate is something burdensome, but to me, a lack of fate seems much more burdensome. If fate was real then I would have no problem just accepting it and would even welcome the sense of direction it would provide in my life. Instead I am left floundering, given options to create my own destiny but being too weak and indecisive to do so.>>24945770That sounds like a wholesome story.>>24946434There's nothing saying that the red string is entirely random or probabilistic across every possible partner. People tend to be more compatible with people from their own culture and it would take quite of twist of fate to have someone meet another from outside their general region, even in the age of the internet and international travel. If people were truly destined to end up together like this then most people would still end up with someone from their geographic locality in the same or a similar cultural background.
>>24944807Kinda
Childhood is hating on himAdulthood is recognize that he was right
>>24946582>ntaYes yes, newfags never follow any rules and are never wrong or incorrect in any occasion. A totally different person.
>>24946981>no one seems to respect him just out of his contribution to the disciplinethey do, but the discipline is cultural studies, not psychiatry
>>24946508>>24946548>>24946987I swear, the average IQ on /lit/ is double digits.
>>24939664>is recognizethank you for the thread saar
>>24946377I say if there's one thing that's the "key" to Lacan its "Lack". In the sense that a feeling of being incomplete or missing something that everyone else has is central to human experience is the keystone of Lacan's psychoanalysis.
prev: >>24935706Erich Heckel edition
>>24947696chances are they have already gotten to you
If jews were forbidden to own land, doesn't that also mean that they could have always just...leaved if they didn't feel welcome? They just decided not to? Because there was nothing that they couldn't just take with themselves, unlike gentiles, who couldn't pack up the land they owned and worked on.
>>24944782Is this from a story you're writing or something? Some things are silly but not a bad start.
>>24947701>If jews were forbidden to own landIts not that they were forbidden to "own land" is that they were forced into exile from their homeland by God. The Torah says that they will inherit the whole Earth like the bible does. That whole region/land of Israel is probably the most important pillar and fixture of the Jewish religion.As for the rest, I'm not sure.
>>24947713>The Torah says that they will inherit the whole Earth like the bible does.The Torah doesn't say that they*
I want to increase my knowledge I never read anything by a female or updike
what's updike?
>>24947683Butterfly would have loved this :(
>>24947683WHO ARE YOU CALLING A DIKE
>>24947680A&P then Rabbit, Run. Don't bother with the women.
In a world where 90% of the internet traffic is online video streaming, to detriment of the environment and our minds, why aren't you rejecting modernity and going to the library? The library is literally free and fun for all ages. It is the most environmentally and civic minded thing you can do. Instead of being in a haze of pleasure, living in a digital cocoon of reels and streams, why aren't you forging the future of humanity? The weight of the world is on your shoulders and only you can make a better world.
>>24944042The world dragon has many worshippers of its many forms.
>>24944403This desu.
>>24945090>written by generic rich personghostwritten. rich people don't write books.
>>24943918my library system is goated. Can take out up to 50 books at time for 3 weeks each, if you go over 3 weeks they auto-renew, and you can do that up to 15 times, at which point it just stops you from taking out new books until you return them or pay for it. No late fees ever. 81 branches in the system and they'll ship your holds to your local branch which you can do online. Only ever have to interact w/ the front desk to grab your holds which takes 5 seconds, 10 minute walk from me.Only downside is they close at 5pm most days.Honestly I'm surprised the USA still has this shit, pretty much the only good deal I've ever heard of
>>24947159I'm just tired of the librarium man. Why don't we just build cyber cafes to remove the laptop people? What are we gaining from the librarium getting dumped with generic tech books, generic biography books, generic social issues books, generic fantasy. Why are librarians even a thing anymore? Can't you just get fake answers to your made up keyboard warrior jobs through the multi trillion dollar nuclear reactor powered lying machines like chatGPT or gemini? What do we need phone charging stations for? What do we need the public roblox machines for? Why are you even in the librarium to print things? Just get a shitty chromebook at walmart. Fuck it man. Just shut em all down along with the university scams, build affordable housing/gardens/farms in its place. Any academics in future should just be monks in churches/temples with candles. Everyone else should just go back to medieval games.
It is NOT a literary masterpiece. It is, in basically just an overdressed YA novel. Let me, someone who has actually understood the text, break this down for you:>The core plotA brooding, special teenager, Hal Incandenza, with parent issues lives in a rigid, hierarchical system, namely the Enfield Tennis Academy. A mysterious, charismatic rebel figure, be it His ghost or the Entertainment itself, threatens the order. A ragtag group of teens, Hal, Orin, Pemulis, must navigate a corrupt adult world to uncover a dark secret that could destroy society. This is essentially Divergent, no?>Ham fisted Allegory"O.N.A.N.," "The Concavity/Convexity," "Subsidized Time." These are not subtle political commentaries. They are the same heavy handed, brand name dystopian devices as "Panem" or "The Capitol." It is a cartoony, exaggerated backdrop for teen angst, not a serious philosophical inquiry. DFW merely replaced the Hunger Games with a tennis tournament and a lethal film cartridge.>The teen protaganistHal is the archetypal YA hero. He is unnaturally gifted, emotionally stunted, misunderstood by every adult, and on a quest for identity in a world he did not make. His internal torment is just advanced teen angst. His inability to communicate is peak adolescent alienation dressed up in pseudo intellectual jargon. He is a Holden Caulfield who can quote Wittgenstein.>The threatThe samizdat is a MacGuffin of pure destruction. "It is so pleasurable it kills you." This is a YA villain: a single, addictive, monolithic Evil that the adults cannot handle, so the youth must. It is the same as a magic system or a corrupt government, a simple problem with a fantastical, technological cause.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24946578>>24946857banned from the sharty for being trans i assume?
>>24947519>>24947557You're both pseuds. Stop posting.
>>24947607well the important thing is that you found a way to feel superior to both anons while also refraining from risking anything by posting thoughts of your own.
>>249475571. Hal and probably Orin, know the location of the master, but we have nothing to suggest within the story that either even know of it or care about it, just the allusion that Hal finds out about it and starts to care about it during the omitted year. Pemulis does not care in the slightest. 2. Support it and address what I said instead of just saying "I am right, you are wrong."3. He doesn't perform unnaturally, it is the very natural result of what happens when you spend a decade myopically fixating on two things. Also, you ignored the points about his failing in everything else, he can barely get through algebra. His essay we get to read is laughably bad and purely a demonstration of his knowledge of words, completely dances around the essay's topic. Hal is not gifted.4. That is just the literal plot level handouts, you failed to identify what it is. What makes it so compelling?5. Those are not themes, they are contexts demonstrating and exploring theme, hence my pointing out that you need to reconcile them all. 6. Pretty much the previous answer again. 7. There is nothing ambiguous about the ending and the only way a hero could solve the problems the book deals with is by killing off most of the world so we can start over.
>>24947557>4.It’s a film so perfectly entertaining it catalyzes complete catatonic bliss, rendering the viewer a useless, addicted husky. This is not a complex philosophical object.Fucking kek. Did you really think that is what he was asking?
Man, you're right, Aristotleanon. Christian apologists are the worst when it comes to anally raping the Aristotelian corpus beyond recognition. They don't fucking understand anything. They don't understand dunamis, they don't understand energeia, they don't understand Metaphysics Zeta, they don't understand syllogisms, and they definitely do not understand the four causes. I just had apologist tell me, definitively, that Palamas was a top scholar of Aristotle (lmfao), and that De Anima isn't about life at all, since according to Palamas, only human beings have life because you somehow need "intelligence" to be "self-subsistent" (fucking LOL). Even when you read Aquinas's commentary on passages like the controversial active intellect, you can see him at pains to make the active intellect cohere with the passive intellect into one united soul. And then he fails to do so. But then magically says "but it has to be the case, and so it is." I ask another apologist, is an intellect which becomes everything, something which changes or otherwise remains as it is? And obviously, they short-circuit. Because obviously, that's the kind of intellect that we have, and it can't be active in any pure sense. So Aquinas is wrong and our intellects are perishable in the sense that it is soul. Oh the horror!!! These fucks have absolutely destroyed Peripatetic commentary throughout history, and they polluted literally everything, especially the translations, with the most hamfisted articulations possible to the point where intelligent conversations with them are not possible. Their brains are wrapped in verbal poison. If you ever get caught up in it, you basically have to spend years unlearning Scholastic hackery as it pertains to the deepest parts of the Aristotelian thought to even have a CHANCE at beginning to understand its depths.
>>24947178Anon, you're right that most commentators sought to repurpose Aristotle for their own projects. But it's another thing entirely for people to *not be aware* that they're diverging from Aristotle, and to not recognize that there are problems from diverging from the implied Aristotelian position, partisan solutions that are even worse than the aporias suggested by the original position. To treat everything as if it were all tightly-wrapped in a bow from Aristotle to Aquinas to fucking Palamas is just insanity to me. >>24947186I don't feel the direct impact of Middle Platonists, Arabs, and Jews on the vocabulary and thought-patterns utilized by Christian sophists. So it doesn't bother me so much. >>24947202Palamas:>The soul of each animal not imbued with intelligence is the life of the body that it animates; it does not possess life as essence, but as activity, since here life is relative and not something in itself. Indeed, the soul of animals consists of nothing except that which is actuated by the body. Thus when the body dissolves, the soul inevitably dissolves as well. Their soul is no less mortal than their body, since everything that it is relates and refers to what is mortal. So when the body dies the soul also dies. (Topics of Natural and Theological Science and on the Moral and Ascetic Life: One Hundred and Fifty Texts, 31)What am I supposed to make of that? This is abysmal, perhaps even retarded, especially if we're supposed to take this as some kind of Aristotelian commentary. If it's something different, then fine, be my guest, but this is like taking the entirety of Book II of De Anima and throwing it into the furnace. And even on those merits, it is bad, because nothing is truly self-subsistent except for God if we're going to play that game.
>>24947161As opposed to our brilliant era of "telos as a strongly emergent physical property" or a mere catagorical and an "Aristotleian" philosophy built solely off a few parts of the Ethics?Anyhow, what is your objection. Do you think Averoese got it more right? I'ma side with Plato here either way (and thus I guess with Palamas).
>>24947223First, you're presenting a strawman caricature. If anything, the tendency in the East is to underemphasize the influence of Pagan thought.Second, the Middle Platonists and Islamics profoundly shaped the reception of Aristotle in the West, so they definitely shape discourse up to this day. Indeed, a key reason why the Orthodox read Aristotle so differently is precisely because Islamic/Jewish thought had a far deeper influence on Scholastic thought. In the high scholastic period Aristotle was just "the Philosopher" but Avicenna was also "the Commentator.">What am I supposed to make of that?That animals don't have a nous or immortal soul. In context, this is explained in terms of different ways of participating in the divine energies.
Saint Gregory the Theologian addresses this in a poem.
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Just wanted to say I'm proud of you lot. I can tell many of you have actually been reading books this year. Warmest congratulations to everyone who read books this year and coldest execration to those who did not.
>>24944124I think those are called Caketomotrists.
>>24944109I also keep telling myself that having a job is not worth selling my soul. Really hope I don't end up killing myself at some point though
I actually rarely read and only come on here to see discussions about the latest talking head videos of which I don't understand a good portion of most of the subjects or even the language used, especially when it comes to politics *accepts your praise anyway and sits with everyone at the reward banquet table*
>>24943077where are my candles? i want a candle for every book i read this year
>>24943077I read 30 or about 10,000 pages, just slightly less than last year. Mostly novels.
I am reading deleuze’s what is philosophy at the moment and the part about the creation of concepts, the analysis of their components and the resulting impossibility of discourse in philosophy is blowing my mind. The discourse becomes impossible or at least fruitless because the terms and concepts discussed, although homophones, aren’t comparable because they’re on different planes of thought and have different components. So we think we are speaking about the same things, while only confusing ourselves and wasting our time. I mean the idea is almost trivial, while the execution and explanation is outstanding.
>>24946062Doesn’t matter, don’t care.
>>24946039sounds interesting. haven't read WiP, but i've found his (maybe related?) concept of the plane of consistency to be really useful for thinking about artworks and the miniature model worlds they represent.
>>24946235It’s applicable to most things, I guess. But in philosophy it explains why there’s is no common ground like in the sciences, a set of basic principles everyone can agree on.
>>24946235It's an interesting take, it frequently appears to pull from GS, Twighlight of the Idols, and maybe a few other odd parts where you try to move as quickly as possible, think as slow as possible, and sift even slower. The results appear just as varied. You could have 2 guys who tie their left hands together and play stickpin refutation, a sumo match, or just one guy trying to navigate a minefield. The key part for some of this for Nietzsche at least is that the concept is already there so instead of finding a potentiality you basically look for how actual but there isn't really a limit on this. Nietzsche claimed it could isolate specific instincts, you get a theoretical edge for the successive attempts.
how the frick do your formulate any concepts in ur mind.then
>it's literally just smutWhy do pseuds love Batallie so much again?
>>24942746i can smell your leaky clitty
>>24941974>But story of the eye is pretty much only smutIt's also deeply sacrilegious.
>>24941966because it's smut
>>24944633You're unironically validating Bataille’s entire project while thinking you're dunking on him. You're completely missing that he literally defines coherence as servitude because he's not trying to build a system, he's burning the library down from the inside specifically to filter midwits who need a "lantern of coherent thought" to feel safe. He's wearing the scholar mask to rot the institution of reason with filth. And complaining about pseuds getting lost in the fog is hilarious because Bataille explicitly wrote for those who would misunderstand him. Opacity is the removal of the safety rails so you can experience actual expenditure. You didn't expose a fraud, you just admitted you can't handle a fire that doesn't exist to keep you warm.
>>24944942...hot
I willingly didnt return my library books after the library near me is suddenly going through unexpected renovations and its been sitting on my shelf for close to a year since i was too lazy to drive across town to another library.I was planning on returning the books when the library opens again in a couple months but at this point i'm tempted to just keep em since I've just been buying my books instead for the first time in my life instead of using the library and i'm liking my growing collection.The library books are the illiad, the odyssey, the aeneid and mythology.I wanted to have this certain set of books anyways and at this point i dont wanna pay for it.Is this wrong of me ? Who else is gonna read these old books in my crappy bumfuck town in the middle of nowhere?they probably have multiple copies anyways.
>>24945997Filtered
>>24945852So what if he can't read, he plans to sell the stolen books to people that can read
>>24945935/threadsimple as
>>24946054I have to go return some library books
>>24945935>DO WANT TO LIVE IN A LOW TRUST COMMUNITY?Your community is minority white, that's already gone. All that's left now is gatekeeping knowledge from the brown horde by stealing library books.
