>hates allegory in literature>likes the metamorphosisExplain.
>>24985229>>24985178is english an inferior language? being described as a bug like being and being a bug are totally different
>>24985175metamorphosis doesn't have to be read allegorically, and if you read kafka's other works, he is less allegorical and more weird than you'd think. although he definitely was inspired by the style of allegories to some extent.when discussing metamorphosis with people I know, it's always the ones who want to make it about the modern man or whatever that fail to remember the most important details, because they are unique to Gregor, like the frame in his room which he made.>>24985598>Why do some good artists and philosophers and such have random retarded opinions about fundamental aspects of human experience?nabokov hates generalities which allegories deal in, and he likes stories with particularity of style, detail, character etc which, if not completely antithetical to an allegory's intent (though particularity does hinder universality), is less important.
>>24985806Explain the meaningful difference for the purposes of Metamorphosis
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>>24985931fuck you
I'm ready for the third series.
>>24987085>harddrive crashThere's that meme again. How does this keep happening to people? The guy devving that Fear and Hunger game dumpstered all his files once too. That's slightly more forgivable then losing... Writing materials?Not that I can really talk. I just backup my shit on Google Drive (cancer) and email word docs to myself just in case.
>>24986499The sranc fuck wounds, they don't have a preference for the honey of unwashed anus
>>24986402Gnosis is considered sorcery no?
>>24987573Yeah but a sorcerer who is also a prophet is a shaman, like how a sorcerer who has no school is a wizard. This book has its own jrpg class system.
>>24984579>multi page autistic infodumpcan you specify which book, exactly? It can't be the first book and I honestly don't recall egregious infodumps in any of the books.>>24986465yeah there are a lot of reasons to dislike the series, but the world building isn't one of them. it's very detailed, but not overbearing.
Victoria EditionPrevious: >>24975069/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQRESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvCPlease limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)Simple guides on writing:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24987631>It must be reiterated to the reader that he was an uncommonly, remarkably fat mouse.please cut this but i liked the rest of it in the comedic melodrama way. turning to the reader and winking is too much even for this place tho
>>24987513Appreciate it, will do>>24987562Thank you friend
>>24987631>who did not cotton to philosophers in particular or brown mouse in general.>The meaning of cotton shifted from "to get on well" to "to get on well together," and eventually to the sense we know today, "to take a liking to." The "understand" sense appeared later, in the early 20th century.What in the goddamn? Pretty cool excerpt thoughbeit.
>>24987631First thing from someone itt that I read till the end, good job anon, give me a chuckleI imagine the brown mouse looking like Chesterton btw
>>24987652disagreeIt's cute
All that has come out of the last near century has been empty stylism (Nabokov, McCarthy, Pynchon); sophistry (Beckett, Borges, Pinter); pulp (Roth, DeLillo, Grass) or third world pastiche (Achebe, Murakami, O'Connor).Post-modernism has been a disaster for humanity.
>>24985051Look at the faggot expert
>>24987727that lawton fellow has a big penchant for fascist writers
>>24985033Imagine being a monolingual frogposter.
>>24987736op needs to expand his world view beyond english writers like borges and gunter grass
>>24985102not the second guy but even the obvious popular ones have their merits. the danganronpa games (even ultra despair girls which isn't a vn despite how longwinded at times, but not 3 which is a bad cashgrab anime by some other, notably worse writers), particularly v3 in the original japanese if you can. kodaka got really good at writing characters even if his themes (and sometimes murder cases) aren't exactly the most subtly written, but they are all pretty meaningful at least. that game's themes being about fiction and its relationship with reality and how truth and lies intersect with others.https://youtu.be/pCKKTgch8i8?si=MN4i5_d-ftyZ-uQ7&t=363he makes it pretty obvious here incase people didn't get the message earlier but it's a rather profound way of wording it so i don't mind that.ace attorney has some pretty good stories too, particularly investigations 2 and apollo justice which goes into the purpose of the law in a world where it can fail people due to its corrupt abusers. haven't played the later games yet but apparently they also have good stories, one of them is about terrorism apparently which is always a fun topic.
Suggest books you want to read with other anons. Earliest dubs decide.>11 Jan>22 Feb>33 Oct>44 Nov>55 May>66 Dec>77 Jan>88 Aug>99 Feb
Happy 2026!
>>24985728Honestly, I'm looking forward to reading most of these books. It's not a bad list.
>>24985868yeah, I'll join for some, too.
Trips and we all read this every month instead.
>>24985728Can we swap this one for May?
It's a very lazy opinion to have and its based on another lazy assumption that because it doesn't require 'doing work' its less philosophical. I mean do you retards sit down and listen to yourselves? Do you ever question these assumptions that you can't even trace where they came from?
>>24987168>>24987178W (withdrawn) tier:>promotional material (40k Star Wars books, halo books, and other shit for invertebrate sea cucumber peripheral only nervous system intellects)F tier:>Music (animals can enjoy)>comic books (children can enjoy)>textiles (women)D tier >Mixed medium contemporary art (look! I get it! I understand this piece! My 200k degree isn’t worthless!)>pottery (lol)>photography (lol)C tier>sculpture (no one ever said, “my life was completely changed/that (sculpture) was a revelation)>architecture (far too big for its britches, gets a major boost and considered far more of an art form than it really is due to scale.) (Romans could enjoy/do but sucked shit at all other arts)Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24987769and who the fuck are you cunt?
>>24987769>most plebian literary form>S tierPack it up guys OP's exposed himself
>>24987769yeah bonzai snipping is above music for me tooalso i'm a gay incel by the way
I'm doing a Nabokov chronological read through for 2026, starting with The Real Life of Sebastian KnightAm I missing much by going straight for his english works? I study Russian and so I figure I'd prefer to read his Russian works laterAny tips for books which will help me understand Nabokov better?Which books are going to be ones which may kill my read through attempt?
>>24986492Yep. Also Europ is russian so better get studying, bitch nigga weak faggot coward cuck simp soiboi fag weakling nerd dweeb bugman pusssy
>>24985803He's a literal /lit/ pseud before /lit/ was even conceived in the mind of the earth archon.>all style; no depth>thesaurus abuse>purple dense prose for the sake of being dense and intellectual>shat on authors he considered below him based on arbitrary criteria (popularity, readability, moral messages, aesthetics)>considered himself better than other writers while writing books about pedophilia>convoluted tricks for the sake of convoluted tricks>every major novel is like Ready Player One of literature: references on top of references on top of references: the true Riddler of the meme trilogy>shat on Freud while not understanding Freud>shat on Einstein's relativity while not understanding Einstein (the fourth part in Ada is the most purplest, up your own ass criticism of Einstein's space and time while being also the most retarded - it's wrong because it doesn't agree with my personal concept of time)>pedoLike, prototypical /lit/ 4channer.Compare to Joyce, who should have been an engineer. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I wish he was still alive so I could run him over. I've never hated a lit motherfucker like this piece of shit.
>>24986539>all style; no depthdepth doesn't mean philosophical posturing and he is highly rereadable.>purple dense prose for the sake of being dense and intellectualoutside of Ada, which has his most hateable narrating voices, his prose is much more economical. he balances out the longer more complex sentences with the opposite: "I rolled over him. We rolled over me. They rolled over him. We rolled over us.">shat on authors he considered below him based on arbitrary criteriai don't know how aesthetics is arbitrary to him saying a book isn't beautiful, especially if he's making a point of the triteness or conventionality of the style. but when critiquing he engages with a book on its own terms as well, tackling the wider points being made if there is any.>considered himself better than other writers while writing books about pedophiliawhile writing books about bad pedophiles that do bad things like all those characters in other books that do bad things.>convoluted tricks for the sake of convoluted tricksit's fun. maybe it might also be relevant that the books are about deception.>references on top of referenceshe's less allusive than joyce. especially outside of Ada (where the point is to build an alternate history with the counterparts of all those things), even in his later works. i think transparent things has a few references to romeo and juilet and that's it.>shat on Freud while not understanding Freudthe bait is too obvious here, no fun.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
what is your reading list?
You do have a basic understanding of how human language works, don't you?
>>24987042Just because I’m reduced to venting my frustration and deep self-resentment in passive-aggressive 4chan posts doesn’t make what I said less true
>>24986658The book keeps building up and up. It starts out with a short history and purpose of linguistics. Then introduces you to an oversimplified and intuitive model of syntax.Then it's like "Consider these new sentences (new data). They are problematic for our current model / Our model needs changesbecause clearly it can be more accurate."So then you make some small changes to your model/understanding and you actually have a reason for the changes instead of it coming out of nowhere. You slowly build up to a modern and precise theory of syntax.
>>24985112Well grammar was the only college course I aced without any studying whatsoever. As soon as I learned the terminology and understood the sentence diagrams I was just showing up and completing the exercises with no effort.
Easy Parsing And Analysis Book by J. C. Nesfieldhttps://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.272041/page/n29/mode/1upPrinciples of general grammar. Comp. and arranged for the use of colleges and schools by Roemer, Jeanhttps://archive.org/details/principlesgener00roemgoogPrinciples of general grammar : adapted to the capacity of youth, and proper to serve as an introduction to the study of languages by Silvestre de Sacy, A. I. (Antoine Isaac)https://archive.org/details/principlesgener00sacygooghttps://archive.org/details/parsingbookcont01weldgooghttps://archive.org/details/parsingsimplifi00unkngooghttps://archive.org/details/classbookofparsi00yeagComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24985112If you want to understand how language works modern academia is the wrong place to look.
Crocodile Tears edition.OLD: >>24978375
>>24987721I have a feeling this year will be cooked, as the kids say
>>24987449I love girls' painted toe nails. Unpainted is not sexy
>>24985980God has sent me many messages today and last night. i'm not religious, been an agnostic leaning deist for eight years, but i am fully convinced of His existence now and going to convert. the main message He gave me was that He knows of my inner turmoil between Him and the devil over the past eleven years, and this is His way of saying that this is only the first quarter of the century and i can use the next quarter to grow like i would've in my adolescent years if i didn't grow up troubled. it's funny, i always thought i wasted that time but in reality, it was simply God's way of showing of how far i can fall and still get back up and rise again.
You will never finish becoming yourself.
>>24987752Not with that attitude
Recently I got into highly acclaimed literature because I heard it had narratives that were vastly superior to low-brow entertainment (like anything that's not artsy film). So I read Crime and Punishment and I thought it was pretty interesting. But the way everyone acted it was like the book was supposed to give me an existential crisis or something like that. I also read The Great Gatsby which I think was basically just a 1920s Shakespeare play and I think it was just fine but not groundbreaking. I also tried to read Infinite Jest but I think it filtered me honestly. Anyway what do I do? Am I too retarded for this? Should I just watch anime instead or?
>>24986969What I have learned is that a lot of that sort of literature seems to disregard things like plot, which OK you can do that, but I don't find it interesting personally. Why would I read Infinite Jest when I could have a 30 minute conversation with someone in a rehab center?
>>24987246Nta but the ubermensch "plotless" writer (there is always a plot) would be a good stylist, poet, psychologist, sociologist, phenomenologist and philosopher. A great book makes you think and/or mesmerises you with its beauty.
>>24986891>narrativesOne of the greatest novels of all time is about a Jewish cuckold pervert wandering around Dublin for a single day. Narratives (or the plot) are NOT the reason why literature is so acclaimed.
>>24987071I'm reading Steppenwolf tonight and if it's not I'm going to find you and touch your asshole
>>24986955>high-browGargantua and Pantagruelkek
>tfw PDFs acquired from anna's archive and read through a computer screen yield scientifically proven poor results as regards retention & comprehension compared to printed text>tfw too poor; can't afford physical copiesso much for my intellectual life. it never began
>>24985818back when i was 20 i would walk outta barnes and noble with like 10 moleskins in my pants because you could sell them to the art school students and get percocet money>>24984819save up for an e-ink reader i guess, then all ebooks are free online. It's been a while since I messed with ebook files but I'm pretty sure you can de-DRM them with calibre or whatever if you need to. Otherwise you can get books pretty cheap on ebay with free shipping
>>24984901Usually experiments performed on rats are medicinal, since we share a high DNA profile percentage. Close or over 90% if I recall correctly. However, rats are also observed to have a capacity for language (language like patterns in their squeaks. Also you can hook brain clones of them up to a motherboard and have them operate Doom). So, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me that they have the capacity to read. They are still nowhere near our level of intelligence howeverbeit. Probably closer to a dog's, or a toddller's.
>>24984873don't buy a new laser printer ya big dummy. the best ones are a few years old anyway because they cost close to nothing, and can take cheap knockoff toner cartridges.>>24985741same concept for ereaders too. i just upgraded from a kindle DX, which is now 15 years old and still perfectly functional. if you're really too poor to justify $200 for the capability of a lifetime of knowledge in a single device, just buy any used kobo/kindle/etc and sideload whatever you want
>>24985741The biggest thing to consider is where you'll get your books from; the first-party bookstore is the main differentiator between the mainstream devices. I don't have much of an opinion there, I prefer to just pirate digital copies and then buy physical if they're worthy. Personally I wouldn't buy digital books unless you're able to download the epub file, ideally without DRM.Install calibre on your computer and start collecting books in there. Any (non-kindle) reader you plug in will render EPUB files just fine, and calibre will automatically convert formats if needed. (newer Kindles don't play as nicely with sideloading)i'm a kobo enjoyer myself but any of the more foreign ones like Pocketbook should be just fine if you don't care about having a huge integrated bookstore.Also stay away from color screens unless you really need it for manchild comic reasons. They're not ready for prime time yet and are a noticeable step down from a monochrome screen when viewing regular text
>>24984819used books exist, if you can afford internet you can afford them as well
>Translations are not reading>It is easy>You can not utilise English without French>Women will fawn over you>You might get a French gf
>>24987410I understand what you're saying. But having heard Indians speak English, I have hard time believing they have much more than a pidgin going on (besides the elites).
>>24986308I'm too lazy and retarded to learn another language. I tried learning German but I don't know how to motivate myself learning it.
>>24986308>It is easyQuoi ? Ce n'est pas du tout facile (peut-être au début). J'ai commencé à l'apprendre car j'ai entendu que francais est facile mais après plus de six mois, je suis encore mal.
>>24987732what language is easier?
>>24987740English
It was probably the hardest book I've ever read. Simple reproduction was very frustrating to read and I don't understand it that well, especially with gold production. Reading expanded reproduction though was pretty fun. The rest of the chapters were quite boring but cleared up most questions. It's clearly an unfinished book.The whole book in a literary sense is a desert with some good gems here and there.Overall very insightful, even if many people seem to skip it and jump to the third volume, or rather not read it at all, read like the first 100 pages of Capital and then become professors of critical theory.I still don't quite understand what the 'transformation problem' is supposed to be. The way I understand is that there is no reason for the inputs to be in prices of production + average profit rate, as Marx deals with the production process (in the first volume and elsewhere) in labor-times, not in prices of production (+ average profit rate), which are a sort of ex post thing, how surplus value is redistributed due to competition and other things. In any case, total value = total commodity money and total surplus value = total profit should still be correct. I'm not sure if the input-output schema even works for Marx.I've already read a bit of the third volume now, so I'll see if there really is a contradiction.
>>24986502can you do me a service and use a trip so I can filter you from now on?
>>24986522Best I can do is a dynamic ip and harass this low speed pseud fag nerd invalid incel board for the next 3 months nonstop, sorryyyyyy
>>24986495>Those have nothing to do with each other.They are the exact same.J. S. Mill in Utilitarianism:>According to the Greatest Happiness Principle, as above explained, the ultimate end, with reference to and for the sake of which all other things are desirable (whether we are considering our own good or that of other people), is an existence exempt as far as possible from pain, and as rich as possible in enjoyments, both in point of quantity and quality; the test of quality, and the rule for measuring it against quantity, being the preference felt by those who, in their opportunities of experience, to which must be added their habits of self-consciousness and self-observation, are best furnished with the means of comparison.https://www.utilitarianism.com/jsmill-utilitarianism.pdf, page 22.>I. Nature has placed mankind under the governance of two sovereign masters, pain and pleasure. It is for them alone to point out what we ought to do, as well as to determine what we shall do.>III. By utility is meant that property in any object, whereby it tends to produce benefit, advantage, pleasure, good, or happiness, (all this in the present case comes to the same thing) or (what comes again to the same thing) to prevent the happening of mischief, pain, evil, or unhappiness to the party whose interest is considered: if that party be the community in general, then the happiness of the community: if a particular individual, then the happiness of that individual.https://cooperative-individualism.org/bentham-jeremy_the-principle-of-utility.pdf, page 1-2.And finally, Jevons:>2. A true theory of economy can only be attained by going back to the great springs of human action — the feelings of pleasure and pain.>Our estimation of the comparative amounts of feeling is performed in the act of choice or volition. Our choice of one course out of two or more proves that, in our estimation, this course promises the greatest balance of pleasure. https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/economics/jevons/mathem.htm
>>24986495>There's nothing more empirical than marginal utility, because instead of making pretty much metaphysical speculations about 'value' it sticks to observable behavior,There is nothing metaphysical about value. Value, for Marx, is a social relation, which has not always existed (it did not exist before commodity production) and doesn't need to always exist (in communism for example). Once the relations of production change to a system in which commodity production no longer exists, so does value stop existing.The principle of utility never goes into examining and researching the human brain, the extremely complicated ways in which anything similar to 'pleasure' and 'pain' work, including the neural system. It is an abstraction based on a priori assumptions about pleasure and pain, completely unrelated to the actual biology of human beings. Neither Jevons nor Bentham (or J. S. Mill) went into any length to 'prove' the principle of utility based on scientific research. They simply stated it.For the practical purposes of capitalists, this abstraction seems to work, but it is not 'proven'. If it didn't have any use for capitalists to make money with, it wouldn't be used.>assigns value to that which people try to get, and this, importantly, in their actions and not their words.This observable behavior is a tautology and an assumption. Preferences are revealed when... they are revealed!Marx makes no assumptions about the 'internal', 'hidden worlds' of the preferences of different people. What he analyzes is what is empirically attainable (relations of production), not tautologies and speculations about the hidden worlds of people, which, as I said, are used by economics for very practical reasons of vulgar economy.
>>24986418I liked it, it was much easier to read than the second volume. The latter half is the most interesting historical portion. The only hard parts of volume 1 are the very first sections, but after that, it's not so difficult anymore.
How did someone decide to publish this slimy piece of trash shit 119 years after it was written and not get fucking ostracized, outcast from society or outright killed?This shit is genuinely fucking disgusting.
>>24985034>I don't understand sexual degenerates unless drugs are involved. I've been able to live out my most degenerate fantasies many times, sometimes for extended periods of time, and the result is always deflation and 'oh shit, that's it? I was expecting to feel better', not an addictionyou answered yourself really. You have the fantasy and you put it into action only to have it not satisfy you. Then you have to escalates it because SURELY that will be what completes me.They are chasing a theoretical high that never hits.
>>24981088>Do you know why pedophilia causes even the borderline retards to fly into rage? Because it implies you're too retarded to talk with adults, and lack the intelligence and linguistic skill (ironic, for a literature board) to bed women.this rationale doesn't match the character of the outragepeople don't get indignantly angry at retards, they pity them or get exasperated at having to deal with them. if you're running a store and a downie comes in with his handler, breaks free, and knocks over a shelf in a tard rage you don't blame him, you blame the handlerthis is true even if a bystander gets hurt
>>24981088A lot of words to announce that you've been filtered by Nabokov. It's ok, he's more of a writer's writer, and you're terrible at writing, as evidenced by the verbal clichés littering your turgid effortposts.
>>24980042I'm not a Sade fan by any means, but holy shit Americans are such philistines.You claim to be the land of the free yet at the same time, kill a person for publishing a NOT NICE book.
>>24980042It's a classic OP>>24980079Try reading the Bible sometime
>When the loud options are moralistic anti-technology on one side and managerial techno-optimism on the other, the vacancy is real. Into that space Land arrives, not with a program, but a jerry can full of accelerants. He offers a style of lucidity that makes refusal of justificatory exposure feel like realism, and he supplies different factions with the same transferable permission to burn what they already want to burn.>Land exploits that vacancy by treating contestation itself as pathology. The slow work of stating conditions, specifying stakes, tracking costs, and admitting defeaters is redescribed as security reflex and primate panic. His central gesture is substitution, the labor of justification gives way to the glamour of inevitability. He swaps arguments for accelerants, then calls the burn insight. Landian inevitability is counterfeit realism, a get-out-of-reply-free card stamped with ‘what is coming.’ If every objection is already a symptom, nothing has to be answered on the merits.>Thus, the space of the reasons is displaced by a regime of selection, time, capital, war, optimization, whatever can be invoked as an external criterion. Behind this move sits a familiar ancestor. Darwinian selection, abstracted into a metaphysics. The Landian trick is to treat selection not as a local operator but as a final arbiter. Whatever survives is taken to deserve survival. Whatever scales is taken to be true. This is how selection is promoted into a theory of justification, and it is also how resistance becomes illegible. If the arbiter is selection, then objections are not reasons, they are symptoms.Actually pretty good. I think the polemics lean a little too heavily on a dated caricature of Land’s thought, but the criticism of provenance as a substitute for justification is sound, imo. If you submit your ethical judgements to the invisible hand of technocapital then every criticism can be framed as a transient pocket of negentropic drag that doesn’t deserve an answer. Of course if in raising your metaphysics to the status of an ethics your position magically becomes immune from criticism, there’s definitely a problem there.
>>24981193when did this inversion happen? some years ago anons were all kaczyinski stans based ecofascists and now it seems that everyone is pro-ai
>>24987355The Covid wealth transfer illuminated everyone's submission to global capital and technology, symbology masking this system of pure entropy and sin (what is referred to as culture) lost all legitimacy, and the absolute stagnation this system demands became the only truth in peoples lives. Any individual who I have met with a grasp on language have turned nihilistic to current systems, but doomed by their own inaction have consolidated no alternative opinion in a public sphere, those legitimizing said systems (AI bots paid for by intelligence agencies and the humans who have reduced their brains to that intellectual capacity by falling into their algorithms and echo chambers) have found this endpoint of inaction as an ideology. Kaczynski posters were real people (with little education or discipline) and their mindless memetic echoers, the real people turned largely nihilistic, the mindless echoers moved to other ideas, including this drivel. I have never met a real person pro AI
>>24987461i have, but mostly as a tool. still, it's the anti-tech let's destroy industrial society to 'we should actually reindustrialize again, with automatation' radical change some people suffered that surprised meyet we can see similar stuff in the left i guess, 2016 was pro-jew and now they're anti jew.
>>24982961His twitter is him constantly falling for garden variety magaboomer ragebait and masturbating to ancient jewish number magic
>>24982796land is a midwit
