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>Far from being a man of his time, Lovecraft's views were abhorrent even to his bigoted peers. A 1922 attempt to join an elite honor society within the KKK (The Glorious Lancers of the Sepulcher of the Church of the Ku Klux Klan), typically reserved for college men, was rebuffed on the basis of racial views evinced in a monograph he submitted for their consideration. In the document, he called for what we would now recognize as the genocide of Black Americans, most mixed raced people, Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews, and Catholics. This shocked even the 'elite' Klansmen, who held to a repressive and segregationist line, but were not comfortable with the mass slaughter or even forced repatriation of minority groups.

Why haven't you read Lovecraft?
If you won't read, I will read it to you.

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>>24983236
High IQ
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best collection of his letters?
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>>24983236
we think empathy is just too much work. we love efficiency. and if that means hurting peoples' feelings, then so be it.
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>>24983191
its amazing what Jewish pussy does to a man.
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burroughs is better

Alone Once More Edition

Stubbed >>24982319

>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.

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Where can I find some decently written short stories?
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>>24987862
google
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>>24987376
validation addiction culture
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hey. crabs went to bed.
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this is just like when Fang Yuan faced the swamp crab desolate beast calamity

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ruins edition

FAQ:
>What is worldbuilding?
Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.
>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"
Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.
>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"
If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.
>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"
Yes, of course you can!
>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"
Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.

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>>24987832
>Lions
Live in the savanah
>Spiders
Have "fiery" venom
>Snakes
Live in the desert. Also have venom.
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Harry Potter's magic genetic system was unironically great.

On one hand, magic has a strong genetic component, so it isn't so common that everyone could have it. Something something when everyone's a super, nobody is.

But on the other, magical strength isn't. The Scion of a centuries old family is not going to be naturally stronger than someone who was born from Muggles. So meritocracy and hard work still has a place in the system.

It's also unironically the best way to turn Wizards into a separate tribe, because they are all part of a single genetic set. And also to create a social hierarchy based on which groups are more magic nationalist (ie more obsessed with whether your genes are more magic than others) without actually validating the Shonen Anime type eugenics.
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There's not much space for character development if the enemy are unthinking, ontologically evil forces of destruction we can't really communicate with.

That's my big grievance against stories that borrow Heinlein's "Bug War" narrative. I want wars against humans, not insects.
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>>24987832
Salamanders, lol.
Other than that fire can work for any land or flying animal/insect. Like a swarm of all consuming fire ants could lead to potent and terrifying imagery. Meanwhile a cloud of fireflies could stress the beauty of dancing emblems in the night.
Or a stampede of huge fiery bison that is symbolic of being in the destructive path of a raging wildfire.
A fish would be weird but even that could work if weird is what you are going for.
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>>24987890
>the Shonen Anime type eugenics.
Only show I can think of with such a trope is Naruto and to a lesser extent Bleach.
Most others the protag just a combo of hard working and lucky, which is often a OP combination.

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the fourth blackfyre rebellion edition

ASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page
Blog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/
So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/
Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/
SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdy
General search: http://searcherr.work/
TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chapters

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>>24986801
>George has said
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>>24985499
>"je suis Charlie" meant something
What did it mean? Euro governments literally made it illegal to mock Islam.
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>>24987435
>da norf is arguably the least honorable kingdom
kek stay mad suvvern poof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYm6aMMcFu8
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>>24987263
I'm glad he knew how to bathe
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It's over.

On fairies:

>The origins of the magical content of the pagan cults can be traced back to the fairies, who were a real, neo- lithic people, smaller in stature than the natives of northern Europe or England. They were a pastoral people who had no knowledge of agriculture. They fled before stronger, technologically more advanced murderers and missionaries who had contempt for their culture. They set up communities in the in- lands and concealed their dwellings in mounds half hidden in the ground. The fairies developed those magical skills for which the witches, centuries later, were burned.

>The socioreligious organization of the fairy culture was matriarchal and probably polyandrous.

>the fairy culture was still extant in England as late as the 17th century when even the pagan beliefs of the early witches had degenerated into the Christian parody which we associate with Satanism. The Christians rightly recognized the fairies as ancient, original sorcerers, but wrongly saw their whole culture as an expression of the demonic. There was communication between the fairies and the pagan women, and any evidence that a woman had visited the fairies was considered sure proof that she was a witch.

>There were, then, three separate, though interre- lated, phenomena: the fairy race with its matriarchal social organization, its knowledge of esoteric magic and medicine; the woman-oriented fertility cults, also practitioners of esoteric magic and medicine; and later, the diluted witchcraft cults, degenerate parodies of Christianity
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>>24987520
It was made up wholesale by a woman named Margaret Murray who got it by autistically cross-referencing hundreds of Scottish witch trials which themselves mostly reference Anglo-Saxon mythology.
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>>24987529
My knowledge is fairly limited, so please forgive me for any mistakes. My understanding is the Irish creation myth involves a progression three different invasions, the Formians who were short and swarthy but had magical powers because Ireland, the Tuath Dé Danann, mighty heros and demigods, and the Milesians, mere mortal men from Northern Spain whom bested the Tuath Dé Danann on their own terms, banishing them over the Cliffs of Moher.
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>>24987098
i sport new balance sneakers to avoid a narrow path
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>>24987594
The witch cult hypothesis has very little to do with actual Irish mythology. It does posit that the cult originated with a pre-Aryan race of Asiatic shepherds and does identify these shepherds as the origin of fairy myths, but for evidence the hypothesis mostly points to the holidays that early modern witch covens were supposed to celebrate, claiming that they don't align with any holidays celebrated by any agricultural Indo-European people and therefore concluding that the shepherds' religion lived on in secret for thousands of years until it gradually evolved into the witch cult which was wiped out during the witch trials.
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>>24987594
This is broadly accurate although the story usually allows for the Tuatha Dé Danann to still be "around". Sometimes they were driven "into the hills", other times they agreed to split the land in half with the Milesians, but the Milesians were sneaky and clever in that way Irish people can be and they chose "the top half". These are possibly later additions by the Church though.

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Who is your favourite English Romantic poet? You can learn a lot about someone's personality and intelligence depending on their choice.
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>>24984980
Keats
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>>24987128
*A Victorian*
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>>24984980
I've been leaning to Blake lately.
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>>24984980
>Who is your favourite English Romantic poet?
Percy gave me Frankenstein, so him.
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>>24985795
Keats was technically Irish, no?

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how do i cope
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>>24987946
my cousin has green eyes and looks scottish i wish i looked like her.
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>>24987685
at the surname?
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>>24987946
there is nothing wrong with being med. but what about being a gloopy ellis island admixture? i doubt op has any real heritage. maybe an artificial eye-talian, sbarro heritage. what can one hold on to then?
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Dios mio
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>>24987964
nigger.

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You do have a basic understanding of how human language works, don't you?
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>>24985112
No, I don't. I actually don't know anything about grammar; I coast by with a semi-intuitive understanding of the languages I do speak. This unfortunately means that everything I say or write is underlaid by a subtle (or unsubtle, as it happens) solecism, especially in english.

Should I learn?
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>>24987848
You seem very confused about what your point is, like you can't even make up your own mind what you're arguing for. Just slam that door, doesn't matter if I show someone else or slam myself, damnit! Just show somebody I'm very upset!
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>>24987941
Au contraire, you are the one who is confused. I have been clear from start to finish.

"Themself" is not only acceptable, not merely laudable, but necessary.
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>>24987955
no, you are very confused
>only insofar as your lot can continue to shame people into not propagating it, because linguists are descriptivists and descriptivism is cuckoldry which will fold to usage.
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>>24987955
nah you made a mistake nigger

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>Translations are not reading
>It is easy
>You can not utilise English without French
>Women will fawn over you
>You might get a French gf
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>>24987732
what language is easier?
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>>24987740
English
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>>24987626
Greek being so low does not compute. Especially below "Other".
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>>24987933
it's only counting direct or near direct loan words looks like
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>>24987933
I think Latin and Greek are at least interesting. French, not so much.

I'm 1/4 of the way through this book, and it's almost too sad to finish.
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It's actually quite life-affirming by the end, he gets some young pussy, he writes a book he's very proud of even though nobody reads it, and he loves his whore daughter.
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>>24987842
Finish it, trust me.
Teaches you how life can be.

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what books are essential to understand more the american mindset? i've been living in the US for the past 4 years and still not part of the culture and i think i will never be and that's ok but if i can indulge myself a little bit more it would be beneficial for me career wise
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>>24987565
move to a first world country for God's sakes.
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>>24987565
never read hst but isn’t he more on the side of nogs & druggies than people resentfulposting on 4ch?
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>>24987568
no violence in america !
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As has been said already, there are very few topics that have one cohesive "American" perspective. Where are you in the US?

Read a bunch of Philip Roth. The Secret History by Donna Tartt.

5 years ago Less than Zero would've been an uninspired and dated recommendation but it's surprisingly relevant right now
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>>24987238
right, it has several regional ones.

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What book would you go to if you felt like starting over with something? With something being anything regardless of what...
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>>24987466
Would
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>>24987466
The Little Prince
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Gospel According to Matthew.
>>24987712
Also this is a good shout.

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>>24987168
For fiction it is inherently superior. The best movies (which are an EXTREME minority) are better than the best fiction books. For non-fiction, film is inherently inferior by a large margin.
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>>24987353
This
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>>24987838
/thread
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>>24987178
The philosophical meaning of a piano sonata is based on whatever the autist titles the piece
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>>24987901
Western classical music autists typically just give it a number and key signature, the nicknames usually come from publishers.

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>Gore Vidal, author of that trashy pornographic book Myra Breckinridge soon to be a major motion picture by 20th Century Fox? Well, I'll bet your mother's proud of you. Well, of course I read it, and after all the other girls in the office finished it we had it burned. Just tell me what right have you got to impose your vulgar degeneracy on the American people? Artistic merit? What's so artistic about a man who turns into a woman?
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>>24985208
i watched a john waters movie once i was expecting some super sassy gay stuff but instead it was mean spirited and just fucking awful god damn that was unpleasant
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>>24985238
i don't like that campy tranvestite stuff and i don't think gore vidal did either which is why this book is kind of surprising
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>>24985330
I didn't think Camille Paglia did but she wrote the Introduction
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>>24986207
maybe it's because they saw the novel as skewering that kind of culture rather than glorifying or normalizing it
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>>24984145
heh

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>>24986052
How did Guénon cope with Shankara plagiarizing the Buddha?
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>>24974797
is it possible to be a christian esoteric in this sense or are they incompatible
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>>24987291
You can if you want, but that would only be highlighting how much of a hylic you are, and how you perpetually seethe at Guenon and live him live rent-free in your head.

You can cope about the body as much as you want but Ibn Arabi's doctrine is explicitly non-dualist and everyone agrees about this, they just classify it as a different type of non-dualism than Shankara's, but for Guenon this is not important since in his worldview the different non-dualism doctrines as just particular ways of explaining the same metaphysical truth of non-dualism but adapted to particular cultures and eras, even when they disagree on specific theological details or give differing accounts of creation etc. They both lead to a highly similar final stage of enlightenment that Shankara and Ibn Arabi both in almost the same ways. If you make a list of all the different components and facets of the highest enlightenment for Shankara and Ibn Arabi, roughly 90% of the list is clearly stated in the works of both thinkers and only 10% differs.

Furthermore, Guenon follows a Qunawian-reading of Akbari metaphysics as does Jami, al-Jili and the Shadhili Tariqah Guenon belonged too, and al-Qunawi formalizes Ibn Arabis metaphysics in way that that brings it even closer to Advaita than it was understood just based on Ibn Arabi's texts without Qunawi's clarifications and systemizations. Qunawi makes the Divine Essence completely indeterminate, and beyond all change and predicates as in Advaita, and he insists that all language in Ibn Arabi about the dynamism of the Divine refers only to the tajalli and not the Divine Essence. The way that Qunawai makes the taʿayyunāt or determinations account for the manifestation of tajalli while leaving the Essence totally unchanged closely parallels Shankara's account of maya and the paramartha/vyavahara distinction.

>>24987349
I don't know, I'm not an expert in Christianity and it interests me less than most eastern traditions. From what I understand there is no authentic esoteric lineage going back centuries that is preserved within Christianity that is 'strictly Christian' and not based on external influence. EO Theosis is not a secret teaching but is just a method taught to monks. If you want to be a Christian and practice esoterism with a centuries-old history that isn't some totally modern made-up BS as far as I know you have to practice Christian Hermeticism or become a Masonic Christian; but the issue with these is masonry today doesn't seem very esoteric and is more like a networking club and I don't know of any reputable Christian Hermetic organization with a long documented history going back centuries.

You can regard yourself as privately having an "esoteric view" of Christian where you take a heavily Neoplatonic or idealist reading (see pic related especially the top-left) even to the point of being non-dualistic, but this is not the same as actually participating in a living esoteric tradition for many reasons.
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>>24987299
>How did Guénon cope with Shankara plagiarizing the Buddha?
Shankara doesn't do that, the very notion is absurd.

All of the basic principles of Advaita and Hindu metaphysics generally are described already in the Upanishads including pre-Buddhist ones. Centuries before Buddha even existed the Upanishads are already talking about karma, rebirth, monasticism, the superiority of insight over rites, non-dualism, liberation through gnosis, etc and Shankara takes these ideas directly from their source in the Upanishads, Buddha is completely irrelevant to all this. Most of the critiques that Buddhists like to claim Buddha was the first to make are already acknowledged as potential misunderstandings in Upanishads that predate Buddha.

Most of the influence is actually going the other way. First Buddha takes his whole metaphysical scheme of rebirth and karma from the Upanishads and just adds anicca and anatta; but even on top of this later Buddhist texts adopt ideas from Hindu texts that are not clearly taught by Buddha.

The Upanishads are the first to first talk about things like non-dualism and self-luminous awareness and Buddha doesn't clearly talk about those in the Pali Canon, but then those are the exact things that Mahayana and Vajrayana writings often spend much of their time talking about when they aren't talking about emptiness or compassion. Without the concepts of non-dualism and luminous awareness, first articulated by the Upanishads and not Buddha, Tibetan Buddhism as a whole would not even exist and if it did it would be completely unrecognizable.
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I recently decided to read some of guenon books for the first time. A good amount of the contents were things I already know or was aware of and another good chunk in my opinion was largely irrelevant exoteric and spiritual minutia.


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