Do Tolkiendrones realize that fantasy existed before Lord of the Rings and that it suffered greatly from Big Fat Fantasy and other sloppy derivatives that grew like viruses from Tolkien's wen? https://voca.ro/1Rwc7lMX0hfT
>>24947004>At this point one side is pro-tolkein because the otherside is anti-tolkeinThis half of your equation is actually false. Obviously.
>>24946883No bashed, just didn't rely on elves and Wagnerian or other standard mythic tropes that inspired Tolkien. Nobody there is bashing anyone, they're being competent original writers.>>24946942>Thread has already straightened it out>Anon is only here to re-misunderstandYou will never be a writer.
>>24946980>I think he misunderstood Peake's criticism and took it out of context to fit his own politics.He literally didn't get further than >muh prole destroys >muh castle hierarchy, LE GOOD!!!!, I guarantee it.
Autists want their safe wish fulfillment fairy tales, not anything meaningful. That’s why isekai slop is so popular these days.
>>24947228Because you two misunderstand (or simply haven't read) the OP quote, I can guarantee you are wrong.
>is arguably the single most racist author in American history>marries a Jewish womanWhat did HP Lovecraft mean by this?
>>24946601implying jews are not racists.good one.
>>24946601He became a shitlib cuck later in life. There are pages in his diary seething about Huey Long and Franco.
>>24946601He had less beef with Jews than with niggers. Simple as.
>>24946601>>is arguably the single most racist author in American historyThis is one of the most egregious pearl-clutching slanders I've come across, people get this one guy totally wrong, for no reason (besides him being a weirdo). It's totally unfounded nonsense. Baum is what actual racism looks like, lovecraft is what 4chan racism looks like (not real racism, there's no power involved). There's letters between lovecraft and his friends (some of his friends WERE actually racist) where you can see where the ideologies diverge. Lovecraft, at heart, is not obscenely prejudiced or racist, and his friends often take a "agree to disagree" point when lovecraft starts indirectly defending marginalized races such as native americans. His "on the creation of Niggers" poem is hilarious, he’s pretty obviously not a sincere racist, and he is powerless (like 4chan). Lovecraft is no more racist than the average 4channer, but he isn't treated this way. Although ironically he is sort-of treated the way 4chan is treated. And don't get me started on "cosmicism", a made-up ideology that doesn't come close to approximating what lovecraft actual believed. He was a really spiritual guy, deeply compassionate and deeply thinking. The entirety of lovecraft scholarship is completely farcical retardation where the posthumous memory of the man has been hijacked by cringe atheists and retards.
>>24947502Can I ask you for me to wrire more about lovecraft , I like your writing anon.
I just finished reading Journey to the West for a book report. holy shit Chinese books are awesome. Does anyone have the china /lit/ recommendations?
>>24947530This is a really good chart. Whoever made it knew their shit. But a very, very glaring omission is that it doesn't have poetry when classical Chinese poetry is like the greatest literary achievement they ever produced. Very weird.
So has everybody on this board just read Fagles' Iliad translation? I know we're all actively avoiding Wilson's translation, and I never see Lattimore mentioned, so I assume for everybody on here the go-to is just Fagles.
>>24938223What was that one translation that people said was terrible? The one that appears in a meme picture.
>>24938249bump :)
>>24938203no, i read chapman's
>FaglesSounds gay.
>>24938203Lattimore is the best, but Fagles is alright. These are the only translations I've read though, besides Butler's prose Iliad.
Is it a meme?
>>24947383It's a literary translation
>>24947047I prefer A.D. Melville's, but both are good. Her word choices are a bit pedestrian and the lack of indication of the original lines is annoying for cross-referencing.
After Genderswap Reincarnation I Raised the Strongest Slopper EditionStubbed >>24936451>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more>Why read web novels?Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.>Why write web novels?Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.>/wng/ authors.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24947464the ones I 'write' with the help of grok
>>24947464I read Dawn of the Density God which used them a lot.I found them really offputting and I'm someone who reads LN's a bunch.They were all static character portraits or monster shots. No action, no big moments from the story illustrated and they often barely matched the writing's descriptions.It might've not been AI (I was reading in black and white on a kindle) but if it wasn't an artist was absolutely rinsing the author so I think it had to be.
>>24947494a storybook is a book of stories; but otherwise, sure. a story with pictures. however many or few. maybe a graphic novel. im wondering if anyone is reading this stuff, anywhere>>24947505you've been incorporating pictures? do you want to share any? just curiousalso any new & exciting series drop in the last few months?
>>24947470It's "I Am This Murim's Crazy Bitch"
>>24947536You have our gratitude.
>>24947036Freud would have a field day with the complexes on this anon
>>24947236I read Fear and Trembling first and then moved onto the Sickness Unto Death. FaT was good but TSUD blew my mind open. I have a copy of either/or and want to read it one day but am intimidated by its size. Also i feel like i have the attention span of a goldfish and it takes me a while to finish a philosophy book
>>24947422Those four years of penal servitude Dostoyevsky spent in Siberia he spent in the company of murderers and thieves, no segregation having been yet introduced between ordinary and political criminals. He described them in his ''Memoirs from the House of Death'' (1862). They do not make a pleasant reading. All the humiliations and hardships he endured are described in detail, as also the criminals among whom he lived. Not to go completely mad in those surroundings, Dostoyevsky had to find some sort of escape. This he found in a neurotic Christianism which he developed during these years. His emotional life up to that time had been unhappy. In Siberia he had married, but this first marriage proved unsatisfactory. In 1862-63 he had an affair with a woman writer and in her company visited England, France and Germany. This woman, whom he later characterized as ''infernal,'' seems to have been an evil character. Later she married Rozanov, an extraordinary writer combining moments of exceptional genius with manifestations of astounding naivete. (I knew Rozanov, but he had married another woman by that time.) This woman seems to have had a rather unfortunate influence on Dostoyevsky, further upsetting his unstable spirit. It was during this first trip abroad to Germany that the first manifestation of his passion for gambling appeared which during the rest of his life was the plague of his family and an insurmountable obstacle to any kind of material ease or peace to himself. Just as I have no ear for music, I have to my regret no ear for Dostoyevsky the Prophet. The very best thing he ever wrote seems to me to be ''The Double.'' It is the story - told very elaborately, in great, almost Joycean detail (as the critic Mirsky notes), and in a style intensely saturated with phonetic and rhythmical expressiveness - of a government clerk who goes mad, obsessed by the idea that a fellow clerk has usurped his identity. It is a perfect work of art, that story, but it hardly exists for the followers of Dostoyevsky the Prophet, because it was written in the 1840's, long before his so-called great novels; and moreover its imitation of Gogol is so striking as to seem at times almost a parody. Dostoyevsky characterizes his people through situation, through ethical matters, their psychological reactions, their inside ripples. After describing the looks of a character, he uses the old-fashioned device of not referring to his specific physical appearance anymore in the scenes with him. This is not the way of an artist - say Tolstoy - who sees his character in his mind all the time and knows exactly the specific gesture he will employ at this or that moment.
>>24945039Dont beat yourself up. "Lord I believe; help my unbelief" (Mark 9:24)If you want a book that might help with these feelings, read St. Augustine's confessions, essentially his autobiography of faith. He went through the same thing you are feeling.
>>24947132Paulists "catholics" are cucks
I willingly didnt return my library books after the library near me is suddenly going through unexpected renovations and its been sitting on my shelf for close to a year since i was too lazy to drive across town to another library.I was planning on returning the books when the library opens again in a couple months but at this point i'm tempted to just keep em since I've just been buying my books instead for the first time in my life instead of using the library and i'm liking my growing collection.The library books are the illiad, the odyssey, the aeneid and mythology.I wanted to have this certain set of books anyways and at this point i dont wanna pay for it.Is this wrong of me ? Who else is gonna read these old books in my crappy bumfuck town in the middle of nowhere?they probably have multiple copies anyways.
>>24945935let's say there's a little holy-warrior in you, from W40K...then your post is justified.in other cases, the answer to OP's questionning is not that black/white.i am, myself, encline to think that he should get them back to the library.but, then, the remembrance of books i once hired from libraries, books that i couldn't hire twice because they have been trashed, is coming back to me.little libraries, in small town, trash books.they don't keep it.questionnable.OP?
>>24946483kek
>>24945852I've spent a lot of time in the Middle East, and I can assure you Arabs do not read. It's like middle school TikTok addiction, but with adults. They can't even drive cars without being on TikTok. One man was steering with his feet so he could use his phone.
>>24945997Filtered
>>24945852So what if he can't read, he plans to sell the stolen books to people that can read
>age>location>current read
>25>Canada>Far from the Madding Crowd
>>24931414>25>cold canada>2666
what's with all the seething oldies in this thread? jealous of youthful vitality?
21U.SMoby Dick
32, Brazil, the Exhalation collection by Ted Chiang
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>>24946624Answer stands
A story where someone important to the story doesn't die cannot be said to have good stakes.
>>24947011>Give me ideas guysWhy? You aren't creative enough to steal them anyway.
>>24947011The story of your mom fucking every man in the town without getting caught.
>>24947079>Victoria is the funniest thing to come out of /lit/ in yearsScathing indictment, anon. I agree, the quality here has been horrendous.
In a world where 90% of the internet traffic is online video streaming, to detriment of the environment and our minds, why aren't you rejecting modernity and going to the library? The library is literally free and fun for all ages. It is the most environmentally and civic minded thing you can do. Instead of being in a haze of pleasure, living in a digital cocoon of reels and streams, why aren't you forging the future of humanity? The weight of the world is on your shoulders and only you can make a better world.
My library is very, very bad. The downtown branch. I should start taking the bus to the branch in the nicer part of town. The main downtown location is literally full of hobos, drug addicts and literal African immigrants with schizophrenia. It's more like a social services center than a library.
>>24944042The world dragon has many worshippers of its many forms.
>>24944403This desu.
>>24945090>written by generic rich personghostwritten. rich people don't write books.
>>24943918my library system is goated. Can take out up to 50 books at time for 3 weeks each, if you go over 3 weeks they auto-renew, and you can do that up to 15 times, at which point it just stops you from taking out new books until you return them or pay for it. No late fees ever. 81 branches in the system and they'll ship your holds to your local branch which you can do online. Only ever have to interact w/ the front desk to grab your holds which takes 5 seconds, 10 minute walk from me.Only downside is they close at 5pm most days.Honestly I'm surprised the USA still has this shit, pretty much the only good deal I've ever heard of
Just ordered thisWhat am I getting into?
>>24947327isn't everything after the gospels, maybe aside from revelation, just expository teachings OF the gospels?
Been reading the KJV cover to cover for a couple months. Working through the Pauline stuff right now. I can't imagine it not being deeply enriching for almost anyone but there are bound to be chunks that are boring or tedious no matter what your primary interests are.
>>24946147A bunch of fables written by a canannite tribe that much like their Carthagian cousins, used to sacrifice their children to demons to the side of genocide and foreskin collecting
>>24947336A little bit but it's not exactly detailed. It mostly comes from Paul, who never met Jesus and was speaking to a different audience, so he emphasized different things (e.g. faith vs. observance of the law)
remember that god loves you but don't piss him off or he floods the planet and kills 99% of us.
Who's up for a good ol' fashioned stack/recent cops thread?
>>24946902Peake and Canticle for Lebowitz are both eye-rollingly pseudish. Get better taste fast.
>>24946906I literally just picked these up out of interest. How can I have already developed a taste for these authors if I haven't even read them?
>>24946918Doesn't matter. The fact that you picked up both strongly suggests that you haven't developed a discerning intuitive sense of quality and/or a proper filter for recommendations, both being necessary components of taste.
>>24946935Yeah bro, I don't actively browse this board everyday unlike you.
Stack for december/january...I won't actually read GR it's there just to show I'm really cool
>completely dismantles leftism in your path
>>24947129>Capitalist refusing the left a place on the leftPuke.
>>24944150>sade is a conceptual starting point for leftismI can tell already that it's retarded
>>24944150Do rightoids even have a leg to stand on anymore? I mean how do they even explain or justify their position to anyone else. Like do they just go, "hurr sure muh tribe hurr durr muh hierarchy" ?
>>24947458What is a woman?
>>24944150i would eradicate the binary wingism from our minds if i could
>The red thread of fate (Chinese: 姻緣紅線; pinyin: Yīnyuán hóngxiàn), also referred to as the red thread of marriage, the invisible string theory and other variants, is an East Asian belief originating from Chinese mythology. It is commonly thought of as an invisible red cord around the finger of those that are destined to meet one another in a certain situation, as they are "their one true love".>According to Chinese legend, the deity in charge of "the red thread" is believed to be Yuè Xià Lǎorén (月下老人), often abbreviated to Yuè Lǎo (月老), the old lunar matchmaker god, who is in charge of marriages. In the original Chinese myth, the thread is tied around both parties' ankles, while in Japanese culture it is bound from a male's thumb to a female's little finger. In modern times, though, it is common across both these cultures to depict the thread being tied around the fingers, often the little finger. The color red in Chinese culture symbolises happiness and it is also prominently featured during Chinese weddings.>The two people connected by the red thread are destined lovers, regardless of place, time, or circumstances. This magical cord may stretch or tangle, but never break.Any novels or poems cover this?
>>24944807Almost every romance anime has this.
>>24946079too late, I had a child with a puerto rican womanreally fucked up there desu
>>24945880What are you telling me for? I didn't get one.
>>24944807There are more than two billion indians and chinese. Meaning that your true love is likely to be mapped to one of them which makes this a shit theory
>>24944807does the chinese tradition actually have our notion of romantic, chivalrous love and courtship, or is this a modern reimagining?
