Odysseus and Diomedes murdered Dolon in cold blood despite his surrender and the promise they made to spare his life in exchange for information on the Trojan encampments. The Greeks were the villains of the Trojan War, just like the British during WWII
>>24975448If any part of you really believes either of those were the "good guys" you are a golem.
>>24975573I am literally saying that there is gray area between the Greeks and Trojans.
>>24975252Have you ever heard the theory that Helen was taken from a different (older) myth about the daughter of the sun being kidnapped? Apparently the name Helene is related to "Helios" (the sun), and Menelaos is related to the "Mene" (the older name of Selene, the moon), and there are parallels between Minos (whose name may be related to "Mene") and his wife Pasiphae (who was also the daughter of the sun).
>>24974798>there are no "villains" in the Iliad aside from the godsYou don't consider Agamemnon to be villainous?
>>24975573Between the dudes who carried out holocausts the UK are the "good guys". But the UK did commit heinous acts in their colonial nations like India.
Based Bakker Edition>Old:>>24968637>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
>>24975651It's better than the Sun Eater books people keep shilling, but that isn't saying much. Gosh darn are the Sun Eater books trash.
>>24975259>>24976253Wasn't the ending confirmed to be that Griffith keikaku'd literally everything to destroy the IoE permanently?
>>24976730I read the first one and didn't contain a single non-plagiarized concept, character or line of dialogue. I do not understand how any editor would allow this to be published.
>>24976732No, you just made that up
>>24976730>>24976733Le Mangeur de Soleil is in convésatíone with other litérateur, c'est ne pas un plagarisme
what was the best book you read this year?
I finally read pic related after sitting on it for over 20 years. I really enjoyed it. After watching every version of Blade Runner a handful of times each, this was a nice change of pace. I've always been told about how different Blade Runner is from its source material but after reading it, I was very surprised at how similar they are. The basic skeleton of the plot is the same. If anything, the film made some very wise cuts to the plot.
>>24971322I want to rape them
>>24972624So is it a real travelogue or a shitpost? Sounds pretty funny
John Grisham's The Firm
>>24971290and quiet flows the don. (I'm reading it rn)
309 days until Halloween edition.Old >>24969924
>>24976628>Primitive warCrichton only wrote the two, right? Jurassic Park and the other one, I don't remember it's name Second World or something.
>>24973915Have a crush on my boss. Have made out with her before but nothing came of it. Basically got friend/professional zoned. She's moving on to a new job in a bunch of weeks. I'm actually feeling quite down about it. What should I do from here?
>>24976720Force yourself on your new boss and see if you get a promotion out of it.
I think it’s already over, we had everything in sight and missed the chance, which was also our last chance. Understanding this makes everything around me make a lot more sense. I really hope it isn’t true but it seems to be. We live in the ruins of a once amazing thing
Jamming the Dead currently: https://youtu.be/tg-3GWGcprs
LOTR The Fellowship of the Ring - Chapter 6https://youtu.be/KXMW-OkqicA?si=XYK6YbQzMxMSNQvbMerry Christmas!
>>24971657okaybut why the old forest, of all things
>>24971657She's faking it
>>24971657I love women
>>24976342gayyyyyy
>video flaggedNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! DAMN YOU! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!
the fourth blackfyre rebellion editionASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_PageBlog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdyGeneral search: http://searcherr.work/TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chaptersold: >>24949686
>>24975995The first few books are so good.
>>24976237>I was lied to.Gurm would never lie.
>>24976165would Mance have fun discussions about the life of maesters and how they do their shit with the wildling chieftains?
>>24976299hate this fuck
Was thinking of reading some labor history. Which one of these should I pick and why?
>>24976545do you deal with cases involving workplace injury?
>>24976566I'm just saying, the whole discipline of labor history seems like an explicitly Marxist ideological project.
>>24976545I interned at one of these labor law firms. Shit was repetitive and uninteresting as fuck
>>24976488My employment record desu
>>24976488Volume 1 of the penguin classics translation of Das Kapital covers the working conditions of post-industrial revolution English poorfags quite extensively.
just finished thiswhat should i think of it
>>24976620
Narcissist believes a low-effort OP demands, mandates high effort replies
>>24976620you are so lazy and entitled that you expect other people to make effortposts in response to your minimum effort meme template threadtoo much effort to start the conversation, yet you're gonna get mad at others for not starting it for you?tell us what you think, you lazy nigger
>>24976629>tell us what you thinkif i knew what to think about it i wouldn't ask, fucking numbskull
>>24976665If you read it and have no idea what to think about it, you may just be retarded.
>To the plebian laymanA Horror novel>to the patrician laymanA religious novel>to the experienced laymanA psychological novel>to the patrician laymanA mother-daughter coming of age novel>to the veteran plebianA book about the ills of feminism >to the veteran patricianA detective novelYep. Can't dispute this.
>>24976659The legit ones are no joke, though. It really is something to see a stone-cold sober psychiatrist talk about watching someone levitate into the air.
>>24976676That's what I was talking about with a 'very small portion'. Most legit ones could, and probably should be treated as mental imbalances, save a few peculiarities.
>>24976687I assumed with the 10% you were including minor entities like lesser demons and fair folk. Not every possessed person is possessed by fucking Azazel or a similar high-ranking demon.
>>24976694I misphrased the reply. Most possessions have to do with parasitic beings (a large portion of all mundane spiritual encounters, angelic, demonic, or otherwise have to do with them). They won't levitate a person, but they'd probably be able to make a chair creak. The ones who levitate a person would be in the very small portion.
>>24976709Ah, I see.
What books did you receive from Santa this year /lit/?Not gonna post a pic but I got: >The Encyclopedia of Demonology & Witchcraft>The Imago Sequence by Laird Barronand>a first edition printing of Dangerous Visions edited by Harlan Ellison Fairly modest haul but you know what, I'm satisfied. Merry Crimbus everybody!!!
>>24970424I got two books which I'm really excited to read:>Addiction by Design by Natasha Dow Schull>Folklore figures of French and Creole Louisiana by Nathan RabalaisI'm more interested in Addiction by Design right now but I'm super excited to read Rabalais' book.
>a confederacy of duncesAbout halfway through it and loving it>the pickwick papers by Dickens >candide by Voltaire
>random house's version of the egyptian book of the dead>frieren vol 8>1st volume of that official elden ring mangai dont typically buy at retail chains but i got a $50 b&n gift card
Just returned from Indigo. Here's my haul.
>>24976662Why bother with softcover books when you can get a lot of these books at the library?
I have been reading Chinese classics lately and finished this one. Out of all of the ones I've read so far, this has to be the greatest.Has /lit/ read traditional Chinese classics like Romance of the 3 kingdoms, Journey to the west, Dream of Red Chamber, Investiture of the Gods, and others?
>>24975079production value looks low though, like a made for tv drama.
>>24976560you mean the simplistic sets its supposed to be realistic probably i mean people thousands of years ago didn't have the shiny interior of the current day forbidden city
>read chinklit>get confused by names constantlythis only happens with works from china and russia, I never had any issue with the greeks or japan
>>24976690Audio format helped me with this immensely.
>>24960526Man, old Chinese is a mother fucker to translate. Each symbol can have anywhere from five to twelve different meanings. The excuse given is "context matters" but that is also bullshit because old Chinese writing frequently has very little context outside of the sentence given. Sure, you will know that the "paragraph" is giving a physical description of someone but there is only one sentence describing the eyes or face of the guy, so that's all you get.The Dao De Jing is NOTORIOUSLY a mother fucker and a half to translate because Daoist monks were quick to say "Whatever you decided was the right translation but is also absolutely incorrect" before slamming back some booze while talking about how you should abstain from vices, but there are no vices, except everything, or nothing. You'll understand, but you won't, you can't and you will be 100% right.
What even is happiness? Near as I can tell it’s a sense of servitude either to a family or a god. So it’s the absence of freedom?
>>24974630I would actually argue finding happiness comes from the exact opposite mindset to thisHappiness is not the absence of pain, but rather the mindset that no matter what life throws at you, you will carry on and be okay. No matter how mentally painful you think something will be in your head, you will carry on with it anyway and things will be okay.Trying to avoid "pain" is actually what causes most pain. Pain comes from resisting life. Someone who shuts themselves inside all day and avoids the world will be 100% successful in avoiding any of the "pain" outside that they might have encounted during the day - but yet will probably be one of the most miserable and unhappy people while doing so. Instead of overcoming the minor pains of daily life they now have to encounter the much greater and soul crushing pain that comes when you fear and resist the entire world.
>>24974630if you think this stupid nihilist position makes you sound smart, you should know that it only makes you sound like someone whose soul is too small to have ever known a meaningful experience
>>24974723>small soulFruitful symbolism anon.
Happiness can’t be something that you feel all the time, you’d get used to it after a while. One should aim to better onself and one’s life very slightly with each passing year to achieve contentment and the anticipation of something better soon. That said, one can absolutely feel sad all the time. I don’t know how that works. Something about it being easier to destroy than to create?
>>24976660Lots of words to say that you're faggot
Book charts that I cannot find anywhere but know only /LIT/nerds have them saved somewhere. Post pics of some esoteric charts so that I can save them, pic related.>Inb4 check sticky wikiThe ones I have seen are not on there.
>>24974228>>24974237OP back, I finally found the image using Warosu in an old Catholic general. I wish there was a way to easily put these kinds of /LIT/ only pics in the official archive but I digress. How sad to imagine that there are many such creations that are never saved, purest soul of this board.
>>24974461You can add to the mega, which is included on the wiki, you didn't see it, by using: https://mega.nz/megadrop/mcId0tMu0xMas it says in the mega
>>24974065>https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/E3BGRT7KI don't know what you have already seen. Maybe you will find some stuff here. Not mine though.
>>24974863Nah shit somehow didn't see it was already posted. Sorry.
>>24974872It's alright lol. thx
Let's say a transgender woman wants to become a successful author like J.K Rowling did with the Harry Potter franchise but by writing young teenagers/adults books stories.Is this possible, J.K Rowling targeted the children demographics and she owned all the copyrights and franchise of her stories and characters. Rowling started her stories as children's stories and then her stories became more dark and mature. She did become a rich billionaire on her own though through her own merits, imagination and efforts.https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattcraig/2025/05/30/jk-rowling-is-a-billionaire-again/https://youtu.be/RqQNWYkHlKMhttps://youtu.be/dphoCsfR8iUhttps://youtu.be/X2adjz-KG9Yhttps://youtu.be/Ij97LWo0I7shttps://youtu.be/SrJiAG8GmnQComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24976329The short answer is no.
>>24976444Isn't it interesting how causing and calling for the persecution and suffering of living beings has a direct correlation with notoriety and often material success
>>24976329The problem is that trannies, fags, and other people like that revolved their entire self around sexuality. They being proud over their sexuality is one of the core example of this thing; normal people dont go around telling other people that they are straight, but trannies and other fags do. Second, for a group of people who lived a sexual life (whether its active as in having sex all the time or passive as in daydreamer or masturbator), their constant feed of sexual material to their brain will eventually affect their work or something that they produce (you are what you eat). This can be seen everywhere, in video games, in films, even in smut literature, no matter how hard they tried to hide and conceal this thing their nature will eventually reflect their consumption. With that being said, can trannies actually write or imagine a plot similar to harry potter while having to detach their sexuality from their work in the first place? I highly doubt it
>>24976329>Transgender woman>she>herThat's a man you fucking retard.
>>24976444She never let it fade from the public consciousness though.
>Sings Songs>Is a completely unknown race >Has a fairy wife>Can hold a demonic ring and shrink it>He doesn't give af>Doesn't fit in the story>Defies logicIs he Eru Illuvatar or Tolkien taking the piss? whatever he is reminds me of a Leprechaun that's based
>>24960555Looks like we got ourselves a TOURIST!
>>24974844The vast majority of the population doesn't read at all. They can barely let alone think. Even less so if it's a movie made with a book behind it. The Hobbit book is just leagues better than that shit show of a movie. Especially retconning and making a "diverse" cockney Middle Earth for Lake Town. Even though it's supposed to be proto-Europe/alt-proto-history.And don't even get me started on the shit show that is the Rings of Power. Literally made as a wokie LOTR because faggots think LOTR is too white.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ6NQyEWhSgGod I hope homo-wood dies out and we can get an actual entertainment industry back up that isn't eternal nepotism queers.
>>24958855I don't understand why everyone hates this happy retard prancing around in the forest, I kinda like him
>>24976267post is dumb but image is good
>>24974844>moviefags who haven't bothered to read the booksI look like this and I love Tom Bombadil
