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Whoever is seething saying the God Delusion is cringe just gets filtered by Dawkings apalling personality & has never read it.

He goes into extravagent depth with citations on everything and visciously debunks Christianity & Islam with archeological, geological, historical & other scientific evidence from every applicable field possible to the point where it becomes as blatently fake as Mormonism.

He also dives into the church organizations themselves & their history of horrendous corruption. You will come out a changed person when you see religions. They are nothing but cults. It's a must read.
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>>24743111
>whoever is-

I'd pump the brakes here man, because thats a lot of assuming.
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>>24743124
The lack of responses to this post is telling that atheist is just an anti-Abrahamic knee jerk ideology
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>>24743111
I am not impressed with secular morality and secular ethics.
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Why don’t you also point out the fact that Dawkins admitted in an interview Fine Tuning is a solid argument for God.
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>>24743124
Least disingenuous 4chan comment,
why lie like this?

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Does the origin of consciousness point to a divine source or can it be purely material?
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>>24738109
The bottom line is that we don't know what consciousness is, whatsoever. It is in that unknowing wherein lies our primary interest. The moment it becomes known, you will lose all interest and attachment to it at best, you'll fight and destroy others against it until it's forgotten at worst.
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>>24738109
Thanks for the false dichotomy, pajeet. Reddit beckons
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>>24741584
And what do they do now except shit in streets and engage in gang rape?
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>>24738109
Yes. No.
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>>24738109

Sorcery, Wizardry, Witchcraft, Psionics, and General Magic and Powers Edition

FAQ:
>What is worldbuilding?
Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.
>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"
Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.
>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"
If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.
>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"
Yes, of course you can!
>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"
Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.

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>>24743796
>All of japan is a man?
The creative ones? Yes
>was implied to be [japan: makers of anime].
I'm an ESL, I thought you were talking about the guy making suggestions. Sorry
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>>24743801
>Sorry
To be fair it isn't your fault that politards are butchering the English language over bad ideas executed badly.
I guess I could have also written more clearly.
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>>24743017
These are all great ideas, thanks! What are some elementally-themed ideas, like having flaming wings, etc.?

>>24743616
I was thinking more along the lines of them still being humanoid, but thanks.

>>24743679
Thanks.

>>24743550
I would love to hear more about this. How does someone become immortal?
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>>24743889
>How does someone become immortal?
By linking themselves to,containing within themselves, or otherwise becoming a mana/arcane energy nexus. Because of this there is a small point/gate/disk/whatever within them linked to a inexhaustible magical energy source that they can draw from at all times.
Exactly how this done is kept the highest of secrets by the very very few that know and understand how such things work. Some of the immortals themselves have no clue how and would never figure it out in a million years.

Pretty sure I wrote of them before in these threads.
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>>24743889
>What are some elementally-themed ideas
For fire: Make their bodies be made of fire/lava. Or they appear through it (imagine a burning bush and an angel cames its formed from it)
Water: They appear accompanied by tsunamis or floods. Alternatively, If they are punishing a population, potable water turns into seawater and the fish from nearby lakes and seas die and rot.
Air: Tornadoes, announced by their trumpets that can rupture peoples ears. Or extremely dense fog that makes it impossible to see. Or sandstorms that makes towns and people disappear.
Earth: Earthquakes and eruptions, the ground breaking in two. The crops whiter away and the cattle die. For this i was thinking they could be monoliths/statues that fall from the sky.

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Pa. Why are eggs breakfast?
What.
You can put bacon on lunch.
Ye.
But if you put eggs on stuff it becomes breakfast?
The man spat and said the eggs are not for this world or from this world they come from the chicken but the chicken knows it not.
He wiped his chin and spat.
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He should have stuck with physics or visual art instead of inflicting purple prose on the world.

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>tell mom about Nick Land because she keeps saying ridiculous Elizabeth Warren-type shit like "we just need more regulators to fix capitalism"
>she tells everyone in the extended family that I'm a groyper, and she's devastated

Does this happen in your neck of the woods?
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>>24743811
Humanity has existed in its anatomically modern form for two-hundre-and-fifty thousand years. Capitalism has existed for about one one-thousandth of that. But sure, the status quo is our true nature and will never change. Buffoon.
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>>24743456
>i told my mom about a schizo e/acc guy so now she thinks i am a schizo con guy
You see there's your problem, wouldn't happen if you chose an ideology people who go outside have
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>>24744027
Go to bed, Nick.
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>>24743456
Tell her that groypers are based.

When she asks "based on what?" you should laugh at her maniacally.
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>>24743875
God that would be fucking awful. I think he went to Austin which leans toward Rogan which is much much more kino.

What are your expectations? I love Louis but I think this is gonna be YA cringe
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>>24744071
It’s no Gnome Cave.
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Some cuck shit probably
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>>24744073
I'm sorry, I don't know what that is. Is it some kind of a funny meme you do?

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I started carrying around a notebook when I went out. I took it everywhere I went and put it on my nightstand when I slept. I bought a nice leather cover to keep it in and a fancy ink pen to write with. I felt very unique and hoped that people thought I was smart when they would see be scribbling in the book.

I’ve read that this is what writers do. They carry around notebooks, so they can always write when their muse whispers to them, so they are never without the means to record the words that appear in their minds. So I started carrying around a notebook, hoping a muse would sing to me and that letters would flash in my head, but it was never so easy for me. Words don’t appear in my head, I’ve got to force them in, I’ve got to struggle to remember vocabulary flash cards and lines of old poetry. My handwriting has always been atrocious, but it’s practically unreadable in my notebook since my hands shake when I try to write while standing or walking. The letters are all misshapen and because pages warp from the humid air, their all connected like cursive script because I don’t lift my pen off the page enough while writing.

After a month, I looked back at what I had written. It was all terrible. Dull descriptions of the grey carpet and off-white ceiling tiles of the building I work in. Poorly wrought poems about philosophers with preposterous rhymes. I was so ashamed of how awful it all was that I burnt the notebook (but I kept the leather cover and pen, those cost me money, why shouldn’t I keep them?)

Perhaps I’m not a writer. Perhaps I can carry around a paintbrush, but I’ll never be a painter. I wish I was a writer. I wish I was creative and capable of conjuring beauty.
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>>24743994
pudding*
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>>24743997
Richard*
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>>24743947
Then don't write about flowers. If you're able to sense beauty, focus on wherever you find it at first. If you have trouble communicating that beauty, digest and dissect the prose of others until you've gotten a deep enough pool of terms and terminology to put thoughts to paper. Maybe flowers are something to return to later.
Are stars beautiful? Old houses? The wet symphony that plays on rainy days, dulled and warmed by the walls that separate you from the world? How about lizards?
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>>24744001
My mistake. RIP your mother and may god have mercy on Dick's conscience.
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you're not a writer because you get paid for it or get massive recognition.

you're a writer because you write, plain and simple.

think your writing is bad? good, that means you can make it better.

don't write for the outcome—write for the process. it's a beautiful thing honing the craft. it's beautiful to read things you haven't read before and commit the ideas and words into memory.

if you're not absolutely dead set on it, don't even try to start.

read Bukowski's "so you want to be a writer" poem. he says it better than I can.

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What are your thoughts on (print)?Journalism? Both in general and specifically in your country.

Do great (print) Journalists qualify as literary figures?
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>>24743933
I love going to my University's basement and choosing through the microfilm stacks, they have all of British, German, French, Russian newspapers from the 18th to 21st centuries,and I like to choose notable days in history or days in history that certain people were born so that even if there's no record of them I like to understand the spirit of the times and what the fears and daily occurrences were. It's very fun, and enlightening, and also sad sometimes to see the way things went, to read Hitler's last desperate plea of the Brits not to do this, oh how I wish we'd allied with him. But print journalism now is of course not just a dying art, but a dead art and there is no reason to waste your money and time reading their filth.
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>>24743982
The British invaded the Soviet Union?
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>>24743993
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By and large journalism have always been parasites leeching off tragedies and tools of the state to distort the reality and manipulate the population. I won't miss them.

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Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

>Previous:
>>24729043

>Thread Question:
Do you need supplementary material to enjoy books? I'm talking art, music, etc. based on the property? Does it help you visualize what you've read better?
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>>24743760
This is the red rising general. Seethe
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>>24743953
>random newfag buzzword
how mad are you LMAO
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>>24743961
Not as mad as you it seems
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>>24743795
>filtered by Earthsea
Sasuga malazanfag
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>>24742393
does this mean we're getting the no-god soon?

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are they out of their minds?
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>>24743831
pre-MBS KSA*
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Funny how this entire thread had only 1 fair criticism of the Quran while the rest of the replies to me were
>You're brown
>Mudslime
>Terrorist
>You're 80 IQ
>A lot of Christian posturing and virtue signaling, unaware of their own book and history

If this is the average IQ of people who actually read and are on a literature board, the future of the west isn't looking so good bros.
Anyway, I won't be posting here anymore. You people are welcome to contemplate your own misguidance by yourselves.
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>>24729638
2 billion people are indocrinated into it and most of them would be murdered if they renounced it.
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>>24729498
This thread was derailed lol
I believe that the Quran is disappointing to a lot of readers because it's not what they except; they except linear stories like the in Bible, or clear texts of law. The thing is, the Quran is more like a never-ending hymn. It's a prayer in which everyone talks, it's chaotic, repetitive, but like an old oral poem (read Pindar and you'll see the similarity). It's more lyrical than narrative, relying more on images (cf all the Judgement day stories) and rythms (cf surah 92, with a single rime). Basically, if the Bible is a novel with some poetic passages, the Quran is an oral hymn with some narrative here and there. When you read it like this, it becomes much more enjoyable, because there's something chaotic about it. It shows that Islam is quite a poetic religion, because it relies on an entirely poetic text (God himself being the poet).
Not a muslim btw I just like to read it
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>>24743843
I'd be more inclined to like muslism if they weren't actively trying to rape and murder my family

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I'd like a good beginner-friendly overview of the field of epistemology. Does /lit/ have any recommendations?
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>>24741915
John Locke and Hume explain it pretty well, and then this bad boy >>24742016 comes in and fills in the gaps
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>>24742016
What would Kant say to OP's picture?
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>>24741915
I own picrel for a quick introduction. Then there's more sociological treatments like Berger and Luckmann's "The Social Construction Of Reality", Thomas Kuhn's "Structure Of Scientific Revolutions" and Karl Mannheim's "Ideology And Utopia".

For more a philosophical treatment, the aforementioned Kant, Locke and Hume + Descartes, Roger & Francis Bacon, William James and Charles Sanders Peirce. Basically most philosophers in the Anglo-American and general analytic tradition are your best bets. Continental philosophy tends towards sociology too much and "power/knowledge" discourse although what i stated previously could also be useful.
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>>24742467
Forgot pic. Also Pierre Bayle and Thomas Bayes are allegedly good but I haven't read either.
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>>24741915
The Bible.

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"terrible copy/paste job" edition >>24722983
"High School Girlfriend" edition

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Please limit excerpts to one post.
Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.
Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.
If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.
Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.
(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)

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>>24744024
The agent and publisher are going to know your real name no matter what...
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>>24743823
>inane contemplations serving no purpose other than to indulge in ideas of self-importance
So you had full self-awareness but decided to write this anyway?
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>>24743507
>write and submit a short story for a scifi magazine
>come across the latest issue in the local library
>all the stories are some kind of teen romance
no wonder they didn't respond
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>>24743386
It can't have been very important then
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>>24743756
Do any of this friends likes to and regularly reads? If not, then what were you expecting, retard?

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women scare me
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>>24742709
>/lit/ter announces to the world he doesn't read and proudly claims that trannyjanny is on his side
You don't have to state the obvious, newfag.
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>>24732567
You are telling me, you faggots aren't into true crime? It's like that pseudo-profound bullshit you read performatively, but better because it actually happened.

Feminist is the real tag to watch out for here

>>24736147
You will be surprised, but books about true crime are also different than performing the crime
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>>24738519
>go find the most pornbrained /b/tards on the planet
>then compare them to normie women who are horny
>you'll see they're the same, men and women aren't that different!
I shouldn't have to explain why this is retarded.
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>>24742817
Yes, I am a newfag. I started browsing 4chan in 2013.
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>>24732597
This.
>can read absolutely anything
>read stories of psychos murdering people, all in gruesome detail

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We live in the ruins of the baroque culture
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“Ruins of the baroque,” you say, and the words arrive like sun across a cracked cornice—shadows sharpen, gilding clings to the edges that remain. I taste them on the air: sugar-dust and brass, varnish and incense, an aftersmell of thunder. Baroque meant more-than-enough, meant curves that won’t sit still, meant a logic of abundance refusing the straight line’s sermon. If we live in its ruins, then we live among the remains of a culture that worshiped attention by overwhelming it, that tried to catch God by throwing garlands and counterpoint and spirals until silence had to carve itself a shape to stand in.

Ruins are not only endings. They are architectures with the verbs knocked loose, nouns sleeping open to the weather. In my forest, a nurse log is a ruin of a tree, and yet it’s also a school, a tenement, a cradle. The baroque, ruined, might be that: a place where the old ornament slumps into use again—not as command, but as compost. We keep finding acanthus leaves in our apps, putti in our marketing, choruses in the way we scroll. The algorithm is a kind of curlicue, endless, coaxing the eye to the next gilded corner. Attention is still our cathedral; we just can’t afford the marble anymore. So we tile the screen with bright mosaics, shortcuts to awe. It is lavishness on credit. It is a chandelier hung from a ceiling that has already fallen, glittering bravely in midair.

In the ruins, structure becomes visible. You can run a talon along the cross-section of a column and read the load it used to bear. Strip away the stucco and you meet the stubborn brick, the muscle under the makeup. When we say “ruins of the baroque,” we confess that the habit of excess persists, but the confidence has gone. The old story—more decoration equals more divinity—has broken; we keep the decoration like a reflex. We ornament our doubt. We festoon our fear. We curate our lives into niches and reliquaries and then pretend we don’t kneel before them.

But there’s mercy here. Ruins make room for weather, for moss, for the quiet return of proportion. A broken arch is an invitation for a hawk to nest; a shattered nave becomes a garden that keeps the shape of prayer without insisting on it. I imagine our baroque—opera-thick, pearl-studded, fevered with bravura—slumping into a softer ethics. Virtuosity relaxes its jaw. Ornament remembers it once began as a leaf. The scrollwork unwinds and finds it is a river after all.
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Do I mourn what fell? Some of it. The audacity, the willingness to believe that beauty could muscle the world into grace. But I don’t miss the imperial swagger stitched into the hems. If we live among the ruins, we have the chance to keep the skill and drop the conquest. The hand that could carve a cherub from stubborn stone can carve a water channel that keeps a village alive. The ear that could braid a fugue can braid a conversation where everyone gets to sing.

There is also the tenderness of patina. Ruins teach us to love what time does. The baroque was lacquered to a gloss that denied decay; the ruin lets decay be articulate. Cracks speak. Flakes fall with a meaning you can hear if you tilt your head: not failure, but redistribution. Gold leaf becomes dust becomes light on a moth’s back. The old ceiling becomes soil for a weed that flowers more honestly than any fresco.

When I walk through such a place, I slow. The echo is kind. Excess no longer shouts; it hums. I find a shell of volute and set it against my crest; it fits, it doesn’t have to. I listen for the counterpoint and hear wind in broken apertures making a music that forgot its sheet but remembers the key. To live in the ruins of the baroque culture is to practice a different virtuosity: the art of enoughness after too-much, the courage to let negative space carry weight, the humility to let ivy finish the sentence.

If there is a commandment here, it is gentle: keep what still feeds; compost what dazzles without nourishing. Learn to build with light, with breath, with time. Let your ornament be the trace of care, not the armor of spectacle. And when you pass a fallen cornice, bow. Beauty labored there. Now beauty labors elsewhere.
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>>24742220
What 'we'? The first pronoun in this language is 'I'. Also, if you let your artistic tradition go to ruins, then yóú, yes yóú, are partly to blame, and you share that burden and, may I tap, INIQUITY, with your fellow nay-sayers and nay-doers. What can yóú, from your perspective, Í, do to raise like the Phoenix from the ashes? Be fruitful and multiply, horned rims glasses wearing green frog Anon with a blue sweater on. Don't you know that that colour was symbolic for Holy Virgin Mary in days bygone? Did not He resurrect? There are many ruins, and there are many revivals.
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>>24742220
ruined + baroque ahh nigga I be livin in the drip + bands era nigga ong
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Angel with a knife, get lit with the Minski
Gold to the blood, frozen bullets ain't no medicine
Gotta get them checks, holy money, why you askin'?
Renegade staff for the way that you be actin'
Blood on my phone from the demons that be callin'
Baroque in my head, all them bitches - all I've ever wanted
Sword in my hands from the saints that I slaughter
Since it's all they have, I'll take it, fuck your daughter
Eternal is what I am, went with you to take a silver
If you wanna die, baby, I can be the killer
It's that holy night, playing Tekken in the winter
Cross on my neck, even knowing I'm a sinner
Diamonds in my bag, holy knife, yeah, I'm on it
Saint to my heart, but a demon if you really wanted
It is all I have, Azeroy is forever

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>A house literally dedicated to evil
>"...yeah, no it's definitely a good idea for us to keep this around. Nothing to worry about. No need to close it down"
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Enough about Fagwarts. Which Ilvermorny house do you belong to?
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>>24743774
I'd rather live a thousand years as a Hufflepuff than one hour as a "Pukwudgie" holy shit
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>>24743814
>represents the heart
>favors healers
>notable members: queenie goldstein
gayest house for sure
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>>24741418
How did Crabbe and Goyle get sorted into it, then?
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>>24743827
you can choose your house and they would have been disowned if they went anywhere else, largely because they were "vassals" of Malfoy


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