Why women are more obsessed with literature than men does?Is literature inherent a feminine hobbit?
>>24686929Might be the first time I laughed at a hobbit reference
It's social conditioningGrowing up I used to read in the library during my lunch breaks at school and I got bullied and called a faggot for it
>Today, a group of schizoid autists who never interact with women will explain to you WHY women do not read *real* books while dodging that most men do not read *real* books either.
>>24684227>Why women are more obsessed with literature than men does?unholy esl or actually retarded
>>24686890are you being paid to be that stupid?
Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg>Previous:>>24668507>Thread Question:Are there any worthwhile novel novel to comic adaptations or vice versa?
>audio"book"
>>24687332check /t/
>>24687332audiobookbayThat's really what it's called. Google it. It has nearly everything. You need to make an account to download the torrents. Making an account is free. You might struggle to find seeds there too, if the book is old or niche enough. However, the seeding there is pretty good in general.
>>24687236it was actually ironiy all along? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!
what lit should i consume in preparation for halloween?
Ligeia by PoeThe White Old Maid and In The Hollow of the Three Hills by HawthorneHe also wrote a good story about a black mass but I can't remember the name of it.Under the Knife by HG WellsThe House on the Borderland
This is a good book if you’re 6 and like goblins.
Thoughts on this guy? It seems like half the people that know who he is hate him, or at least call him a liar, but I've yet to see any actual falsehood that he's ever published. I have next to no frame of reference when it comes to scholarship so I can't tell without external works... Is there actual controversies surrounding this man, or are all his "critics" just the people he criticises unable to give real answers? I've tried to find books that try to answer his, and from the sinopsis and the way they're talked about, they're all seemingly focused on the theological implications as opposed to calling him a liar... but then turn around and call him a liar, despite never pointing out lies. I don't get it. Give me a straight answer, is he saying the truth or not? Are his books reliable sources of information?
>>24683552Jesus the Catholic/protestant/orthodox version was certainly a guy with apocolyptic messages in his ministry but was also doing a lot of other things and the Messiah bit was the important one. The NW scholasticism is attempting to use the Bible and figure out what Jesus was if you only use evidence that is ‘credible’. Ie, a priori the miracles are thrown out. They also use 3 criterion to determine if biblical claims are likely true or false. Very basically:1. Is it embarrassing for Christians (like the women being first to the empty tomb, since women are stupid gossips it’s damaging to the credibility that the people who saw it empty are women. 2. Does it make sense given the era it was written. for example, in an extreme sense, Jesus talking about an iPhone isn’t credible. This applies to things to regarding Jewish thought and tradition of the era. If Jesus was ranting about speaking truth to power and respecting pronouns we’d know it’s fake because it wasn’t an idea a 1st century Amorite would have. 3.multiple attestation: how many people said it from differnt sources. The thesis of APotNM is that Jesus was a crazy homeless guy ranting about the imminent end of the world, which can be extracted from the Bible but BART sort of waves away the exorcisms and the teachings that were pretty radically against current Jewish teaching, such as love your neighbor. And don’t stone people over minor infractions of the law etc. he also has to explain why Rome would crucify a homeless looney etc etc. The field has long since left this behind and focused on Jesus as an exorcist/healer. Jesus as a Jewish irredentist. To put it lightly the Apocolyotic prophet just requires to much cherry picking and waving away and broad interpretation to make work and was more interesting as one of the first critical attempts to find a ‘real’ Jesus that lead to more credible explanations of Jesus teaching.
>>24686518>the teachings that were pretty radically against current Jewish teaching, such as love your neighborLoving your neighbor is/was a fundamental teaching of the Torah. Israelites were supposed to treat anyone in their land as one of their own, and refrain from doing unto them what they would not want done unto themselves. This is attested to throughout the OT, in the Mosaic laws and in the teachings of the prophets. In fact, I've heard it argued that this is one of the key beliefs that set Israelites apart from other societies of the time. Now, did people follow this rule during the time of Jesus? No, hence His teaching to do as the Pharisees say, but not as they do. Jesus' teachings got to the heart of the Mosaic laws and uncovered their underlying morals, thus interpreting them in a more universal sense, but in general, none of Jesus' teachings were radically against the morals of Hebrew society at the time.
>>24686518>BART sort of waves away... ...the teachings that were pretty radically against current Jewish teaching, such as love your neighborMore recently Bart has written a book (not yet available to buy) arguing that Jesus may have more or less invented/popularized altruism in the west, at least in the sense of a truly universalised (among humans) self-sacrificing effort to care for others.https://ehrmanblog.org/the-origins-of-altruism-my-next-book-as-it-stands-now/I'm not sure how he squares that thesis with the story of the non-Jewish woman who is called a dog and expected to beg for crumbs though.
>>24686604 (cont.)It's actually funny that Christians would think of him as anti-Christian when, imo, for a well-studied non-believer, he's about as sympathetic as they could hope for.
>>24686630>>24686557>>24686518I don't see why he couldn't be both?Guy who says the world will end soon but also does some exorcisms in the meantime?
Give it to me straight, how horrified would he be at the current state of the world?
>>24687184He'd kill himself if he could see things now.
>>24687184Bret Michaels is still alive.
He was a weakling crybaby, what he thinks about anything is below us who can at least get out of bed without crying
>>24687184Its interesting that literary culture of melancholic libs he grew up in and found success in is like completely gone now. Good riddance.I would look forward to his appearance of the Adam Friedland show
he would have survived if he had been brought up in anywhere but the pill subscribing west
The one continuous issue that I've been having with the little bit of sunni literature that I've been getting through, especially related to the biographies, is this constant reminder that this is THE way to live, and if you're not attempting to follow each of the examples set by the sunnah you are drifting further and further apart from goodness itself, and if God forbid you try to deny or argue against the fact that it is the superior way of life in comparison to the countless ones that have formed the whole of human history you are automatically deemed a Kaffir or a heretic at the very least. There's not much room for the experiential, the phenomenological, or for mere curiosity even, and it's a constant exercise in games of Purity solely based on textual evidence as opposed to exalting in the sublime as you would find in, say, a desert father's writings. Not to say that there aren't examples of the latter across islamic literature, as that's sufism in a nutshell, but the fact that they are largely and uniformly deemed as misguided heretics, and that the actual hadiths themselves explicitly argue against trying to find your own inner path through the skies tell you all about the mindset that is encouraged right here. Basically, I'd like to know how muslim thinkers balance this forced dismissal of ''the other'' with the actual experience of life itself. How does someone as brilliantly daring as Ibn Arabi find it in him to continue to hold that way of life as the unquestioned path to the Truth? It all seems so incredibly reductive to me that I find it revolting at times. Are you really supposed to accept that 98% of all of human existence is nothing more than the devil's plaything? I'd have no issues with it if it were a complete rejection of the world, as you'd find in Gnosticism or in Theravada Buddhism, but it's the 2% that really puts things into question here. I'm not writing this post out of malice or anything of the sort, as God is my witness I'm only doing it out of pure bewilderment, and I'm more than willing to call myself ignorant on these matters. Why didn't I post this in a more muslim-friendly corner of the Internet? Well I'm not really here for proselytizing, and I've come across a good number of very sensible Islamic threads on this board over the years believe it or not. If there are more of you well read muslims who have already been through this spiritual rigamarole, then please guide me with some useful books on this matter. I have no issues with untranslated material.Al Ghazali also sucks btw. The guy that I've enjoyed reading the most is this turkish Said Nursi fella, who was at the crossroad between a rapidly modernizing ataturk-driven society and the rotting corpse of the ottoman empire. Cool stuff.
Akhi, listen to the words of my brother in Gaza City.I am a Shia, he is a Sunni, and I tell him this.That I try to promote Islamic unity despite sectarianism.Here is what he says to me, the perfect response:The Ummah is about hearts, not labels.This is the truth to understand.
>>24687016>I am a ShiaIn Gaza? Really? How many of there are you? Is Sunni-Shia tensions a thing there, or does the whole Israel thing take precedence? Is the Dogmush clan actually dangerous or is it a LARP? Is there any hope for the communist/socialist movements to make a comeback in Palestine? Sorry for bombarding you with questions but I am curious
>>24687028I would need some more proof that a shia in Gaza is currently posting on horse trading forum.
>>24686139It means all those "muslim" rape gangs in the West should be crucified for their hiraba(banditry)
>>24685275I think that what's more telling is our maintained presence on this retarded website after so many years kek. But I will say this: I cannot claim to truly comprehend traditional salafist literature and fiqh because I have not read any of the 6-book long codexes (think ibn hajar's futh-al-bari) that are typically devised on these matters from cover to cover, which means that there are many nuances in the classical thought of the 4 madhhabs that are lodged in my blind side. The grammatical and syntax focused efforts on exegesis/criticism such as al-jurjani's works were fairly arduous efforts as well, and should make the case for a throughline of a serious intellectual tradition within ''convential'' islam, away from the sufi order of inherited knowledge.I think that ultimately, the crux of the issue lies in the panicking over the clashing of this once insular world with otherness ; or rather, otherness that has been springing up from within, which has never really happened in islamic societies before. It was always either a captor/captive sort of situation, or a gradual acceptance of islam by foreign societies, but never a growing sense of detachment from within. You can understand why a tradition that is wholly concerned with Purity managed to take a radical left turn in order to protect and preserve this proverbial pearl, which is this one, undisputed path to the Truth. That's why every single possible veering out of this path gets swatted away. There was a shock that struck the collective mind of the tradition once the enlightenment's trailblazing machines turned everything upside down, as it laid the ground for the first real, non-hostile, phenomenological contact between the (culturally) christian western tradition and the islamic one, with the advent of muslim generations growing up in a deeply westernized environment. The east is another question altogether. Those two contexts orbit around two axes that are opposites to a degree that's not even funny, and it gets worse when you're always playing the blame game regarding what exactly got us to this point.All I can say is hold onto God's mercy and bathe in the light of his wisdom wherever you can find it.
>Aristotle considered fiction to be superior to history in cultivation of the self>Alexander the Great considered sports a boring waste of time and preferred to stage theatre and poetry readings rather than sports contestsWhen did you realize that the “greatest” Greeks were just eggheads?
>>24687612So headcanon then?
>>24687616You’re going to be shocked to learn that Plutarch is a major source for academics because he used mostly primarily sources which are no longer available, and that any academic book on Alexander, every academic book on Alwxander, draws heavily from him. You’re probably about to shit yourself when I tell you this, but Arrian is also a major source used by scholars of classical history and Alexander. And just wait until you find out that Polybius is a major source for history of the Roman Republic. I can smell the shit in your pants through the screen
>>24687199>Most masculine men love history podcastsHistory podcatst are just gooning material for guys who get boners daydreaming about Napoopan and how they could win the ACW for the Confederacy.
>>24687636Polybius was literally there in Rome hanging out with Scipio Aemilianus. Name one primary source of Alexander's time.
>>24687691Polybius wrote about history hundreds of years before his life, you halfwit. He is taken seriously because (like Plutarch) he researched what he wrote about by going a lot of primary sources that are now lost to time. We know the sources they both used but they’re gone now. Ptolemy is the only surviving substantial primary source on Alexander. But he certainly wasn’t the only one and we don’t always accept what he says because classical scholars compared him to other primary sources that often differed and concluded that Ptolemy was often very biased and propagandistic in favor of Alexander for obvious reasons (being his very close friend)
Any other books with similar plot/atmosphere to this?
>>24686649books about prison?do you know what internet search is?>obviously not
>>24686649Hard Rain Falling
What are examples of science fiction accurately predicting the future?
>“Everything is perverted by this civilization, the gentlemen in suits have fouled and besmirched everything. Lithographs and etchings by old dotards like Picasso, Miro, Dali, and others, which are sold in all the stores, have turned art into a huge unclean bazaar. The money they have is not enough, they want more and more. Paintings in oil, in tempera, are not enough; drawings, watercolors, and gouaches are not enough; to make even more money they do their hackwork on stone and put it on sale in hundreds and thousands of copies. They've devalued everything, the bastards. Many of them are burdened with wives and several families, with relatives and friends; they need lots of money. Money, money and the greed for money, guides these wretched old men. Once rebels, they have turned into dirty operators. The same fate awaits the young men of today. This is why I have ceased to love art.”
Man his early wannabe revolutionary BS is awful, later he cheated up a bit. Some of his early Putin era writing was actually funny. I don't know why people in the west are so hellbent on discovering some secret avant-garde ideology directing things behind the scenes. Russian nationalism is proudly anti-intellectual. As far as it accepts any ideology it is only on the basis that Russia is right.
>>24687342No. The book is significantly better
>>24687468i liked ben whishaw in cloud atlas tho
>>24687517The actor is good and really looks like the young limonov, however, in the movie his entire biography has been boiled down to "how i got buggered by a negro in new york."
>>24687683Was it Chris or Johnny? I hope it was Johnny
Can I still take something out of literature or should I stick to video gamesAlso, what's yours?https://mensa.dk/iqtest/
>>24684873i doubt this is a real Mensa IQ test, anon. A 124 IQ is a score achieved by only 2% of people. I doubt that we're all part of that exclusive club
>>24684877>>24684899Based IQ is trash. Anyone in humanities who takes this soience seriously should be shot. Kill yourself, OP.
>>24686969>I doubt that we're all part of that exclusive clubWhy? An anonymous forum is probably the last extant refuge of the scorned high-IQ set.
>>24685266what? its probably because ive spent about 3 hours a day doing sudoku variants for the past 6 years kekwhy would you go to aliens?>>24686508i unironically am lolmost of my great grandparents moved from finland to australia in 1945 kek
>>24687007<90 IQ post
Why do men find female authors so trite and boring? I've known well-read dudes who don't read women as a rule just because they feel like they're being subtly nagged or something.
>>24677299>Why do some men feel they have authority to speak on work they haven't read?It's kind of like how I don't know you as a person, but based on you asking that question in this context, I can be reliably certain that you are pretty fucking retarded.
>>24677272They're usually very poor writers and (almost) invariably write about things I don't care about or actively hate. Reading Dworkin was fucking hilarious though. And illuminating.Jane Austen is pretty good though, even if there are some malignant facets to her worldview.
>>24685927>And no, posing outside the campus library with some big tome on your knee does not count as reading.You're telling on yourself
>>24684028>all this crapping on instead of just admitting you're a stupid incel faggotall you had to do was not pretend women don't know what a story structure is, a preposterously retarded claim to make.
>>24677272I've only read two novels written by women since I've taken reading as a hobby about a year ago, Frankenstien and Jane Eyre. Frankenstien didn't give that vibe at all, probably because it's from a man's perspective, but with Jane Eyere, while I did enjoy it, it definitley felt a bit like that especially towards the end when she has to choose between St. John and Rochester. Kinda gave me the ick cause it read so female fanfic with a side of moralizing.
Is this what it feels like to read "a classic that everybody has copied, so it doesn't feel new"?This was derivative and shallow as fuck
>>24686539another one of my favorite quotes:>Daisy put her arm through his abruptly, but he seemed absorbed in what he had just said. Possibly it had occurred to him that the colossal significance of that light had now vanished forever. Compared to the great distance that had separated him from Daisy it had seemed very near to her, almost touching her. It had seemed as close as a star to the moon. Now it was again a green light on a dock. His count of enchanted objects had diminished by one.fuck > It had seemed as close as a star to the moonis such a great line. An ideal that seams just a hands breadth away from an object, but once you get to the object, it turns out to be lightyears away from that ideal, like the moon really is away from the stars compared to how it seems to be from earth. and that spark of incomparable inspiration dies with that realization.
>>24682320>turned out Tom was right about everything What did Fitzgerald mean by this
I have a vague memory of when I read it a second time years later and found myself thinking his approach to description almost felt like parody, though that was surely not intended. It's just so particular in structure.Also Nick was a bit of a homo, which I didn't notice in high school.
>>24685775>le semanticskys already
>>24687531>whatWHITE POWERRRRRRRRR
The wealth of a rich man is his fortress;The poverty of the poor is his ruin.How to become rich anons?
KNAWLEDGE.
>>24687557This
Turn the tv on, put it on the boomer finance channel (bloomberg, fox business, anything is fine) and buy slightly OTM options contracts for any ticker you hear dated 6 months out.Read some gay books while you wait for them to turn green
>>24687626What if they turned into red
>>24687626I know this post is intentionally retarded as a joke, but there are lots of financially illiterate people on here, so you really shouldn't be posting something like this.