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Are there any good Marxist/communist novel in the second half of the 20th century or contemporary?

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I broke a woman's heart. What literature exists to help me understand love?
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>>24686268
No one understands what love is. In English it’s literally a meme word that is devoid of analytic content. You’re better off investigating similar concepts from other languages that are more clearly defined.
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>>24686268
What did you do to her? I would recommend Eugene Onegin
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>>24687021

She described how she felt so deeply that she almost loved me. I never felt that way about her or anyone else for that matter. If she was sure she felt that way, why is it love? What separates it from friendship? How do I identify love? Is it only attraction?
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>>24687894
>she almost loved m
That was a manip attempt, based red-flagged bullet dodge king.

>How do I identify love?
I did that irrationally and my marriage is running strong desu.
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>>24686933
Top contender for September's pseud comment of the year. Subversive one.

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>>24687038
Under the Volcano
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>>24687061
Bukowski's Post Office is not believable. He only takes 6 months of unauthorised sick leave off due to alcoholism and does not drink nearly enough.

1/10: not realistic, insufficient alcoholism.

_t. postal delivery officer.
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The Ginger Man.
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My stepdad's diary desu. It's not really a diary. It's a collection of .txt files in a folder marked "secret" on his 2004 desktop PC. He caught me looking once and he beat my ass with a fire poker. Just about shook my bones like a christmas tree. Then he went into my sisters room and
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>>24687038
Steppenwolf

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>The further you get out of line with your intentions, the more distrustful she will be of your actions and words. And the more distrustful she is, the more insecure she will feel and the creepier you become. For instance, if you approach a woman and stand there and talk about the weather, but you’re staring at her rack the whole time while licking your lips, then you will come cross as creepy. Your actions and words are completely out of line with your intentions and she can see that.
>Even if you tell her honestly, “You have great tits,” you will be creepy. Not for lack of intention, but because she doesn’t know you and most women are not comfortable being sexual around men they don’t know. Trust takes time. She has to see that your actions line up with your intentions before she can feel comfortable exposing herself to you and making herself vulnerable.
>Women have a lot more to lose from expressing their sexuality than men do. They make babies. We don’t. They get raped and/or sexually assaulted at a startlingly high rate. We don’t. They have five thousands years of sexist cultural history making them feel like a slut. We don’t.
>The second you make them feel uncomfortable sexually is the second you become a creep and the second she’s finding an excuse to get away from you as fast as she can.
>This is why vulnerability is so huge. When you’re vulnerable around someone you don’t know, it elicits trust in them and they will become more vulnerable toward you in return. The more vulnerable a woman is willing to be around you, the less likely you will be to creep her out.
Is he right?
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>>24682838
You can impact whether she will like you in those first five seconds. They are also just as fickle about deciding they don’t like you. In both instances she is mostly reading cues about your genetic fitness and social status (this doesn’t necessarily have to be money, in some specific subcultures money would actually be a turn off because it implies you care about the wrong things and that her friends won’t like you).

Once you get good enough at managing perceptions to get laid it generally becomes far more trouble than it’s worth. It might be easier if you’re really good looking, but if you were you probably wouldn’t be posting in a thread like this one.
>>24682984
>Don't flirt with guys you don't want to date.
It’s very rare for women to do this naively or for the purposes of manipulation. What is actually happening is that you’re desperate so you interpret normal pleasantries as subtle hints that she wants to fuck you, then you get mad at her for rejecting you when she was really just trying to be polite. You aren’t in the friendzone if you haven’t intentionally spent time alone with her, you’re just a dude she knows.
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>>24684939
>hurr things aren't as bad as they were a thousand years ago when women were literally property, therefore women have nothing to worry about and i am not a woman-hating psychpath even though i obviously am
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>>24684939
The book was released in 2011. He isn’t wrong about the game theory being different; you’d hear the same thing on HBD evopsych blogs back then. The social consequences have eroded significantly, but I suspect we will see that trend reverse in the coming decade. Zoomers have watched the SSRI-fuelled meltdowns of their millennial relatives and are showing less interest in casual sex.
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>>24687862
Please stop posting here.
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>>24682838
Mystery Method is not a good book because it’s for pursuing 9-10s. Most guys haven’t even seen one

Is this worth a read? It looks very aesthetically cool, but it's just YA space dystopia fiction. Normally I'd just enjoy the schlock, but I check the Wiki for each book and all of them start
>MC is still fighting against the evil people in charge
I've gone past 3-4 books and every synopsis starts the same exact way. It seems like an extremely dragged out series. I have my guilty pleasures and don't mind it being schlocky, but I hate stories that are so decompressed that they move at a snail's pace, especially when they're of lower tier.

So, thoughts?
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>>24687848
Apparently it has cuckshit. I'm with it in books with serious artistic merit, but I don't want it in my entertainment.
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>>24687848
They're enjoyable books. Only the first is YA, you have to get that out of the way for the series to pick up. The story is not slow paced either, it's just a large war that happens throughout the series. And ignore >>24687864 because it doesn't. It has white, bonde haired women in relationships with other white blonde haired men.
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>>24687848
It's good. But you have to keep in mind the author is unbelievably edgy and his edgelord tendencies come out in full force in book 3 and the second series.

Hegel thread.

I know a few of you niggers are reading the Phenomenology, where are you in the book and what do you think?
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>>24686597
German idealism is the operator’s manual of the modern world. Those autists had it all figured out. You might not be interested in idealism but idealism is interested in you. These were the first people to seriously, intelligently work out what it means for man to be first. The song they make me think of is XTC’s Dear God
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>>24686602
Yes, Hegel is very overrated. Fichte is very underrated. But in general idealism is a dead end because man is not first, or, the essence of man is to know that he is not first.
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This passage slays dogmatists. Hegel was such a rascal.

Brain-fibres and the like, looked at as forms of the being of mind, are already an imagined, a merely hypothetical actuality of mind — not its presented reality, not its felt, seen, in short not its true reality. If they are present to us, if they are seen, they are lifeless objects, and then no longer pass for the being of mind. But its objectivity proper must take an immediate, a sensuous form, so that in this objectivity qua lifeless — for the bone is lifeless so far as the lifeless is found in the living being itself — mind is established as actual.

The principle involved in this idea is that reason claims to be all thinghood, even thinghood of a purely objective kind. It is this, however, in conceptu: or, only this notion is the truth of reason; and the purer the notion itself is, the more silly an idea does it become, if its content does not take the shape of a notion (Begriff) but of a mere presentation or idea (Vorstellung)-if the self-superseding judgment is not taken with the consciousness of this its infinity, but is taken as a stable and permanent proposition, the subject and predicate of which hold good each on its own account, self fixed as self, thing as thing, while one has to be the other all the same.

Reason, essentially the notion, is immediately parted asunder into itself and its opposite, an opposition which just for that reason is immediately again superseded. But if it presents itself in this way as both itself and its opposite, and if it is held fast in the entirely isolated moment of this disintegration, reason is apprehended in an irrational form; and the purer the moments of this opposition are, the more glaring is the appearance of this content, which is either alone for consciousness, or alone expressed ingenuously by consciousness.
The “depth” which mind brings out from within, but carries no further than to make it a presentation (Vorstellung), and let it remain at this level — and the “ignorance” on the part of this consciousness as to what it really says, are the same kind of connexion of higher and lower which, in the case of the living being, nature naïvely expresses when it combines the organ of its highest fulfilment, the organ of generation, with the organ of urination. The infinite judgment qua infinite would be the fulfilment of life that comprehends itself, while the consciousness of the infinite judgment that remains at the level of presentation corresponds to urination.
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>>24686667
He is saying that materialist philosophy is like pissing and idealism is the other one.
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Anyone notice that almost every author from every time feels the need to run anti-immortality propaganda? What is that? What’s so scary about the living forever that it requires non-stop propagandizing against? Is it just that people want to cope that dying is a good thing because they have no choice but to die? Why is it that whenever a character achieves immortality it’s depicted as an awful, depressing inhuman experience? Why is it NEVER explored how an immortal person can be in the lives of many more people across many generations?
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>>24687479
Lots of people are apathetic now to the point that they create their own self fulfilling cycle so they get this idea that life in general isn’t worth living. Also probably ssri’s.
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>>24687479
It was originally to stop other people from wanting to become immortal, doing it, and ruining it for them. Then it became a trope that people did automatically and the immortals didn't have to put in so much work on it.
>>24687586
Commonly known fact: those Babylonians recounting the epic of Gilgamesh were totally krunked on Zoloft.
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>>24687479
Immortality is gay, and it's deconstruction is justified specifically by faggots like you think it's not gay and actively try to spread the gayness of longing for it.

>Why is it NEVER explored how an immortal person can be in the lives of many more people across many generations?
That is often showed precisely as a major part of the "awful, depressing inhuman experience" thing.
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>>24687479
Every author is immortal and seeks the sweet sweet release of death. You have something that they will never taste: ceasation.
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Another thing. Whenever an immortal is confronted by a protagonist, all they can do is stand there while a baby lectures them about morality and life. Shouldn’t a person who’s lived for hundreds or even thousands of years be much wiser and armed with plenty of rhetorical comebacks to that? Shouldn’t such an experienced person understand mortals even better then they do themselves? Picture how much wiser and intellectually capable you are as an adult compared to when you were a teenager and the multiply that gap many times over. Yet this is never shown, the immortal has to be, in contradiction to expectations, a shallow almost animal-like shell who can only seethe impotently at the protag’s lecture.

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ITT we discuss the details & literary merits of various history books.
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Any books about the sengoku jidai and samurais?
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What are some of your favorite ancient histories? I’m currently reading Diodorus Sicilus (specifically picrel) and I’m having a blast.
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>in the middle of reading Marx' das Kapital
when you get to the point where he describes how Factory owners literally worked children to death and created a "degenerate" class of midgets because of overworking entire families to the point that even their offspring turned out fucked up, it finally clicked how communism was able to take over the world (partially) in the 20th century
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bump
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>>24674975
Try Peter Kemp memoirs. It's not exactly what you asked but you might like it.

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Flex
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>>24687720
>If I wanted to have fun I would watch anime or youtube
for your own good just shut up
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>>24687720
You should ask both of your dads if goldomor have more place in your world than gay romance. Also why would leave bookmarks at the beginning of the books? It looks like you've barely read them.
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>>24687650
are the graham hancock books any good?
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>>24687720
>If I wanted to have fun I would watch anime or youtube
Lmao
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It's not your traditional stack. A biology textbook, a novel, and a magazine in french.

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ITT: Atrocious literature ideas (of any kind) you've heard.
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>>24687857
>Omegabortionverse
i wish you all didn't fill my head with shit i never wanted to know about
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>>24687856
Tucker Carlson is: Forrest Gump
>Now in theaters
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400 page psychedelic proto-psychological journey charting the brief life of a failed sperm during an alleyway rape using humanity's need for nuclear fusion as allegory
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>>24687876
>i wish you all didn't fill my head with shit i never wanted to know about
Cheers cunt, I will be here all week.
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>>24687853
I wanted to borrow Thursday Murder Club from my local library, but it wasn't in at the moment. The librarian recommended me borrowing Three Bags Full by Leonie Swann instead. A murder mystery with sheep as the main characters. I thought it sounded fun based on his description, but that book was such a let down. I expected something like Shaun the Sheep solving a murder, what I got was real life, stupid ass sheep trying to understand what was going on in the story. You as the reader couldn't get a clear picture either because of these stupid animals. "He went there with this thing that I don't have the vocabulary to describe. I wonder what he was up to... Oh! Look at this lovely spot of grass!" It's actually one of the few book I haven't finished. Thursday Murder Club on the other hand was exactly what I expected it to be, and I loved every second of reading it.

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I haven't read the books, but why is Narnia considered a heavy handed Christian allegory?
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is it an allegory if aslan is literally jesus. the finale reveals this
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>>24687814
Yes this is what I keep hearing, but why do people say this?
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>>24687817
Just read the books dude, they’re written for children and take about an hour and a half a piece.
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>>24687800
Read the books and you'll find out. It gets pretty clear.
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>>24687817
for pretty big spoiler reasons

Should I read Phaedo or The Republic?
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>>24687750
No, I am retarded and can only fit one book in my brain total.
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>>24687750
I think Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, Phaedo is the standard order for an introduction to Plato. Many more you could read before getting to Republic, but I get that's not for everyone. The Laws is his best dialogue though
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I bought a Romanian translation of The Republic from a train station and it's translated like an old fairy tale, with tenses barely anyone uses anymore and all other types of regionalisms and archaisms. Really upset me
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>>24687875
>Gets upset when the hegelian witch wants to talk to him

Why do men find female authors so trite and boring? I've known well-read dudes who don't read women as a rule just because they feel like they're being subtly nagged or something.
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>>24684028
>all this crapping on instead of just admitting you're a stupid incel faggot
all you had to do was not pretend women don't know what a story structure is, a preposterously retarded claim to make.
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>>24677272
I've only read two novels written by women since I've taken reading as a hobby about a year ago, Frankenstien and Jane Eyre. Frankenstien didn't give that vibe at all, probably because it's from a man's perspective, but with Jane Eyere, while I did enjoy it, it definitley felt a bit like that especially towards the end when she has to choose between St. John and Rochester. Kinda gave me the ick cause it read so female fanfic with a side of moralizing.
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>>24682623
Yeah, I don't see a woman ever coming up with something like Donne's "A Valediction - Forbidding Mourning" or anything by D. H. Lawrence.
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>>24687761
Though if I wanted to be fair, I always felt like that in literature about love written by men, the woman in question almost never matters as a person but rather as an avatar of femininity, as if it was the thing that the woman embodied to them that these men truly loved and less that one woman specifically, who were quite indistinguishable and interchangeable when discussed at all. I suspect women love much the same way, however. Maybe there is truly only one Man and one Woman that we love regardless of whoever happens to be their representative at a certain time and place.
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Mfw litfags shilling Shelley despite ~90% of it having been written by Percy

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What's the deal with pseuds and Gnosticism?
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It's captivating and appealing on a deep level. I dropped it entirely when I actually understood Christianity and realized it made all gnostic nonsense unnecessary.
>>24684434
>the metaphysics and details of traditional Christianity are very unappealing.
The people who say this have most likely not delved deep into the metaphysics and theology of Christianity
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>>24684229
>>24684613
Exactly when people say reality is evil they don't mean just the current or historic human experience of society and suffering of earth.

Instead the very foundations of the universe and existence itself are evil. The laws of physics are such that there will always be scarcity due to entropy and a limited mass-energy in the universe. Godels incompleteness theorem proves that we will never be able to understand all of reality, and evolutionary pressures result in eternal competition, conflict and systems of parasitism.

It's a heinous reality. Things didn't have to be this way. The laws of physics could have been such that there would be no scarcity and no conflicts. Mathematics could be such that we could understand everything eventually. And evolution could have been such that there would be no pressure for competition.

These things aren't fundamental to existence or being. It's just fundamental to our reality, which is why it's evil.

Nothing to do with resentment or my personal life. It applies to all lifeforms that exist in this hellish universe.
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Lately I've started making threads about any random shit and claiming it has hidden esoteric Gnostic themes
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It's a brilliant belief system because it absolves you of all wrongdoing and you don't even have to be critical
>anything that goes wrong is the fault of the demiurge
>anyone telling you that you're an unemployed schizophrenic is just a hylic agent of chaos you can ignore
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>>24684436
Intelligent people don't find flaws in Christianity

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What written work of Christian apologetics can best convince atheists of the error of their ways?
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>>24682807
cringe
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The Transcendental Argument for God is the most convincing as far as I'm concerned. >>24686191 Funnily enough, Jay Dyer writes for Sam Hyde.
>>24685736
How do you know that?
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>>24686579
>Putting down secularism is just masked hatred of freedom
I'll skip the rhethoric where I ask why ought I accept your presupposition that freedom is good and jump straight to the conclusion that, evidently, freedom in abundance has been detrimental to society, in the last 15 years and forever. Unless you want to claim that we're not free enough where we could destroy negative elements in society? They then wouldn't have freedom.
>Morals aren't exclusive to religion
They are lest they're arbitrary
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>>24683045
It worked for the GOP for the last 60 years. The majority of Christians are cultural Christians.


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