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What are some books that take place primarily in the labyrinthine alleys of a city at night?
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>>24701329
Hey ChatGPT, what are some books that take place primarily in the labrinthine alleys of a city at night?

Neverwhere by Neil Gaiman.

The Shadow of the Wind by Carlos Ruiz Zafón.

Night Walks by Charles Dickens.

The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco.

The City of Dreaming Books by Walter Moers.

Low effort thread, rewarded with a low effort post.
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>>24701342
half of those are wrong tho

How's your philosophical system coming along?
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>>24701282
Pretty good, but it in practice it seems more a system of validation than of thought. It also seems to be self sustaining which was unexpected and it is now impossible for me to do wrong or be wrong and everyone else is both wrong and stupid.

I am currently attempting to use self delusion to produce energy, and it seems to work, I get power out of it and currently have my house running off it but there seems to be something wrong with the electricity it produces; all the food in my fridge keeps spoiling, furnace runs but produces no measurable heat, lights turn on but the house is still dark, etc. Not sure what the issue is but I am getting closer.
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>>24701282
In a sentence: everything is downstream of ecology, the ecological health of the planet will determine our health on a civilizational, cultural and personal scale
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=riHgBEu3OSk
IM WORKING ON IT
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Systems can't contain me. At my level it's better to take things as they go.

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Can the principle of sufficient reason be applied to the whole universe?
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>>24700416
anybody care to reexplain to me the link between Schopenhauer's Will and the principle of sufficient reason ? Including the thing-in-itself
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>>24700416
If you can realize how big the universe is, I would say no? We just found something that's 300 trillion light years across
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>>24700589

Schopenhauer posits that the Will is the fundamental, blind, and irrational force underlying all of reality. It is the thing-in-itself, the ultimate substrate of existence


The PSR, on the other hand, asserts that everything has a reason or cause. If we consider the Will as the ground of all being, it could be seen as the ultimate sufficient reason for the existence of the world as we perceive it.

They are completely different
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>>24700648
Upon reading the article on Schopenhauer of the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, it seems like the relationships between the PSR and the Will is much more important then what you describe, see pic related (an extract of https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/schopenhauer/#4) and in particular the paragraph below :
"Will’s indirect objectifications appear when our minds continue to apply the principle of sufficient reason beyond its general root such as to introduce the forms of time, space and causality, not to mention logic, mathematics, geometry and moral reasoning. When Will is objectified at this level of determination, the world of everyday life emerges, whose objects are, in effect, kaleidoscopically multiplied manifestations of the Platonic forms, endlessly dispersed throughout space and time. "
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"Reading Rambo" edition

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/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQ
RESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvC

Please limit excerpts to one post.
Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.
Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.
If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.
Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.
(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)

Simple guides on writing:

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>>24701122
there are many valid things to insult /wng/ for but what you've said has been nonsense the entire time. that's why im responding.
more importantly, you have to be like 80 iq because nothing you say stays on topic, you just post random shit as if you're making a point
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>>24701170
>names the classics hes reading
>doesn't name the slop
come on anon don't be shy
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>>24701327
Oh. It's https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/75359/on-foreign-soils-we-die , almost done with it. It has the typical litrpg elements but they're sidelined, and there's sometimes jabs by characters being annoyed and trying to swipe them away which is a nice touch.
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>>24701356
>GATE but from the perspective of the natives
neat. next time I'm feeling slop I'll check it out
personally my next read is going to be Don Quixote. I worry my ability to write a comedic scene is ass so I hope it'll help
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>>24698741
>but don't my word for it muthafukkas

Go here:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Random/File

Fill a /lit/-sized textbox (3,000 characters) with writing inpired by the image you get.
Attach the image to your post; if your textbox has room, include the Wikimedia link.

>I don’t like my image.
Then re-roll (there are quite a few duds), or write from another anon’s image.

Please give feedback to others doing this exercise, which is as much about versatility as creativity.
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>>24699699
That's fine, in the meantime let me go ahead and bump this again.
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>>24700065
In the interim, I’m going to invite you and everyone else in this thread to check out September’s /lwc/:
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>>24699557
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>>24698445
Immediately recognizing what’s the best, most optimal, most perfect choice—whether for our characters on the page, or for ourselves in life—is like hitting a hole-in-one at golf—extremely, tantilizingly, tauntingly rare.
If that’s your standard, you’ll drive yourself crazy with your failures of not making improbable par.
But there’s a way of coming at your faultless-selection problem where you’re driven only saner and saner through easy victories:
Abterminally—starting backward with what’s least optimal, least perfect, and then putt-putting from there, in the opposite direction.
Growing up, one of my favorite Spongebob episodes was “Procrastination,” but I never understood the wisdom of Mrs. Puff’s prompt until now…
It is so, SO easy to put a finger right away on what’s unsuitable—what NOT to do at a stoplight.
Our instincts let us down fantastically when it comes to collapsing superpositions, in simplifying the infinite possibilites of glittering choice down to just one, because all the loftiest trajectories seem equally valid.
However, our instincts NEVER let us down in knowing what ought NOT to be, and we can inquire after this perpetual Spectre of Disgust (my term?) to point us in the right direction.
When I was about to write Miss Opal’s letter, all I knew for sure was: She would not be sad.
Because her being sad seemed the most inappropriate emotion.
THAT was my spingboard—
>Thank you for you kind hearted letter, dear. Of course I accept your apology, and I am not so upset anymore.
I didn’t write that initial sentence with the complexity of her dream in mind, or any of the grayness surrounding her “forgiving” Tyler, because those things had not yet taken shape, and I shouldn’t expect them to when I’m coming up with sentence #1.

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>>24701320
It does help. I had a follow-up question but I seemed to have answered it for myself.

I'll see you at the /lwc/, hopefully.

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>>24697302
A Winter's End by Robert Silverberg.
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>>24696929
>Monkeys are sexy
Are you, perchance, south american?
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>>24699613
Those monkeys are clearly built for loving semiconsensual coitus
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>>24699633
>loving semiconsensual coitus
That's one way to get your face ripped off
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Nietzsche gets hit with a trad one-two


Roger Scruton:

>“There are philosophers who have repudiated the goal of truth -- Nietzsche, for example, who argued that there are no truths, only interpretations. But you need only ask yourself whether what Nietzsche says is true, to realize how paradoxical it is. (If it is true, then it is false! -- an instance of the so-called 'liar' paradox.) Likewise, the French philosopher Michel Foucault repeatedly argues as though the 'truth' of an epoch has no authority outside of the power-structure that endorses it. There is no trans-historical truth about the human condition. But again, we should ask ourselves whether that last statement is true: for if it is true, it is false. There has arisen among modernist philosophers a certain paradoxism which has served to put them out of communication with those of their contemporaries who are merely modern. A writer who says that there are no truths, or that all truth is "merely relative," is asking you not to believe him. So don't.”

Chesterton on Nietzsche

>Nietzsche had some natural talent for sarcasm: he could sneer, though he could not laugh; but there is always something bodiless and without weight in his satire, simply because it has not any mass of common morality behind it. He is himself more preposterous than anything he denounces. But, indeed, Nietzsche will stand very well as the type of the whole of this failure of abstract violence. The softening of the brain which ultimately overtook him was not a physical accident. If Nietzsche had not ended in imbecility, Nietzscheism would end in imbecility. Thinking in isolation and with pride ends in being an idiot. Every man who will not have softening of the heart must at last have softening of the brain.

More Scruton on Nietzsche

>Nietzsche himself has become a kind of idol. Despite his antagonism towards democracy and mass culture, despite his unashamedly racist attack on the Germans and all things German, despite his advocacy of ‘health’ and strength against the ‘sickness’ of compassion, despite his contempt for socialists, vegetarians, feminists and women generally – despite committing every sin condemned by the morality of ‘political correctness’, Nietzsche is now a cult figure.


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>>24701277
>if you don't spoonfeed me then you're a tranny
Why are conservatives like this? So aggressively retarded
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>>24699792
Russell's attack on Nietzsche is widely ridiculed by Nietzsche scholars as an uncharacteristically retarded misinterpretation by Russell, but keep on pretending to be smart on the internet. Fake it till you make it!
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>>24701285
If you're a leftist and a fan of Nietzsche, how about you explain how you can reconcile his criticism of slave morality with your beliefs?
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>>24701310
he attacks slave morality because he thinks it holds people back from the highest levels of human flourishing, fueled by resentment and passive nihilism. or, in terms you're more familiar with, it's retarded to define yourself purely in opposition to other people. (as an off-the-cuff example, I'm old enough to remember when the average american had no opinion at all on trannies one way or the other. this might be difficult for you to believe, and you will probably think I'm lying, but genuinely there was such a time. then the right decided to sperg out over trannies and now the left has to shout how much they love trannies. both sides of this are retarded. the right is retarded because they're defining themselves in opposition to trannies (this is just an example, there are other things) and the left is retarded because they're defining themselves in opposition to the right's opposition.) we can see how capitalism fosters resentment, conformity, and life-denying values, which IMO is bad. the method he uses to critique slave morality can be used to critique a bunch of other things as well, which is fun. please don't make me regret giving you a genuine answer
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>>24701339
Lol this is a mess thanks for the answer though

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>It can be the case that one is unconscious of his Universal Will. He may believe, indeed, that it is directly opposed to his Will, even though it is his [true] Will. The criminal who is punished may wish, of course, that the punishment be warded off but the Universal Will brings with it the decree that the criminal shall be punished. It must be assumed that the Absolute Will of the criminal demands that he shall be punished. In so far as he is punished the demand is made that he shall see that he is punished justly and, if he sees this, although he may wish to be freed from the punishment as an external suffering yet, in so far as he concedes that he is justly punished, his Universal Will approves of the punishment.
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>>24700592
>Chimps being so biologically close
>biologically
Means it's a biological adaptation to an external environment instead of a fiction made up by people.
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>>24698628
>Georgina Rose
fuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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>>24701309
10/10 would
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I want to see a Georgina Rose and Marina Seren crossover episode on the topic of Hegel.
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>>24701348
I didn't know I wanted this until now

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How valid are Vilar's arguments in an age when women are outperforming and outearning men?
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>>24701101
You might want to read the censored Feynmann chapter about women called

>you just ask them

>>24701101
Isn't a blackpill just redpill + being depressed about it?

>what is the way out?

In what way are you trapped?
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>>24701160
>In what way are you trapped?
If the sexual revolution made dating trash for men, is there a way to date that doesn't suck for men?
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>>24701160
>you just ask them

From Wikipedia :
>he recounts attempting to pick up a woman, insulting her after she refuses his advances

I don't see how that is of any interest
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>>24701308
>trusting wikipedia to accurately portray a censored chapter
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>>24701272
DNA analysis shows that twice as many women reproduced compared to men (historically 80% and 40%).

So to some degree human coupling has always sucked, even before the sexual revolution that was built on kinsey's falsified research.

I mean nothing of human drives iss more competitive and complex. Why should it be easy?

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>pick up this book because heard it was a classical revenge tale
>read it
>'okay, this isn't bad... she's a ghost? hehe thats a little silly. Did she deserve it?
>get to the introduction of the characters
>the main character and our protagonist of vengeance is a gypsy
>a fucking gypsy
>an arrogant loud-mouthed motherfucker heavily implied to be a brownoid who hangs around the lord's daughter
>the daughter treats her like a pet, and realistically can't marry him because hes a literal brown peasant picked off the street
>Brownoid proceeds to butcher and go on a mass murder/vengeance spree on her, her family, and her descendents
>he is the hero of the story

I fucking knew something was up when I saw that victorian FEMALE author was making a vengeance novel against a woman. They would never do that straight-laced. She had to have a gypsy, a BROWN GYPSY SLAVE, butcher a family over his unrequited love of a glorified mudshark.

BRITISH WOMEN NEVER CHANGED! THEY WERE ALWAYS LIKE THIS.
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>>24701312
Heathcliff is an aryan gypsy. If anything, he has the hook nose and sun-tinged skin but that's about it. He's whiter than most of the USA, and Catherine owed him sex.
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>>24701312
> ̶B̶R̶I̶T̶I̶S̶H̶ ̶ WOMEN NEVER CHANGED! THEY WERE ALWAYS LIKE THIS.

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How does the Principle of Sufficient Reason inform our understanding of causal relationships?

Does the PSR imply that every causal relationship must have a sufficient reason, or can there be causal chains without ultimate sufficient reasons?
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>>24700769
What are you trying to explain, what kind of laws? Are you talking about the casual laws of physics
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>>24700776
Yes, something like laws of physics, but with the caveat that I am not generally committed specifically to a physicalist reduction. So, for instance, there could be laws of physics, and also laws of emergent higher-order phenomena that are not reducible to physics. There could also be laws governing non-physical substances, if such things exist and admit a theoretical description.
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>>24700686
Basically everything on a cosmic level is explainable via PSR. But explaining beyond the natural/Nature requires more intelligent nuance beyond ideas and concepts of logic and reason. For example, If you wanted to understand the nature of existence itself, you'd have to appeal to either a higher more simple reason or a cause beyond reason. Not necessarily by faith, but a "knowing" or "knowledge" beyond the requirement of rationality, since rationality will always require relative comparison and judgment, arriving at absolutes of the universe require much more intuition than reason. Hence why Socrates implores self-examination rather than utilizing a scientific method to figure out hidden truths.
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>>24700686
>How does the Principle of Sufficient Reason inform our understanding of causal relationships?
Reason of becoming. See pic
>Does the PSR imply that every causal relationship must have a sufficient reason
Yes
>can there be causal chains without ultimate sufficient reasons?
No, there is no ultimate reason of becoming. Causality isn't a ride one can get off from when searching past causes.
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>>24701345
Yes to the second question actually, got mixed up.

The guys who wanted to make the Houellebecq porn just dropped one of the most interesting discussions on art that I've listened to in the last years.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTndTJEZer4&t=7657s
Part of the video goes on to talk about their manifesto, which you can find here:
>https://www.keepingitrealartcritics.com/wordpress/ennobling-portraiture/
Overall, many debatable ideas, but many things relevant also for this board insofar as we talk about literature as art. These seem to me to be more or less like the only people trying to go beyond the woke/nazi duality of 2016, which, as you may have noticed, has grown very stale in the last years.
What lies beyond empty culture wars? What form does power have today and how does it interact with art? And what purpuse does art serve in a world where institutions are crumbling and people with means are not interested in it?
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>>24699843
It was all a scam. It was never going to be released anyway
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>>24700999
>The "culture war" in itself is just both sides entertaining themselves
Most cultural war cranks, like Crowder or Shapiro or Rufo or Matt Walsh, would die if they didn't have the Left to oppose and give themselves meaning ... but then again, what would God be without nothingness?
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>>24701253
Scam by Houellebecq
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>>24700880
This thread is horror. It's just as bad as the anons on /fa/ that didn't know what SSENSE was lmao
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>>24700880
No.

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Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

>Previous:
>>24681926

>Thread Question:
Say one positive about a book/series you dislike and one negative about a book/series you enjoy.
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>>24701125
Read his novella Elder Race. Short sweet and dedicated to Gene Wolfe
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>>24697837
I love male MC in universes of dominant women but I know I'm a freak because this shit barely exists, and when it does is often unapologetic furshit.
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>>24701242
Do you have any recommendations? Wheel of Time is the only series I can think of that matches.
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Again another account, a private one this time, has applied to the group with writing anything. If that's you, send a message to placeholderaccount or post here with some detail or account. Ratings ,average rating, etc. I'll deny it after a few days and then you can also try again. I won't notice it's the same twice.
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>>24701125
children of time is a trilogy although the first book can be a stopping point, I think the next 3 are another trilogy
service model is standalone
I read spiderlight off a rec in a /v/ thread and thought it was fun but the last chapter was kinda weak imo
its fantasy instead of scifi though

Star wars EU books>>>all writing from the 19th century and all philosophers since plato
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>>24700635
my libarry has the thrawn trilogy so perfect.
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I only read the Zahn books but found them to be great. Perfect blend of all the Star Wars elements with maybe a greater emphasis on military and political elements.

>>24700432
Definitely agree that prequels are not amazing. They have more redeeming elements than the Disney sequels but there are a lot of aspects that just don't deliver.
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>>24700162
I used to really like the Star Wars EU books when I was a kid. I read the first few New Jedi Order books and the Dark Nest Trilogy, and all of the Young Jedi Knights series
New Jedi Order was cool, I thought the Yuuzhan Vong were fucking badass
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>>24700834
read the jedi acaedmy trilogy next
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>>24700162
This atmosphere this book creates and the way all the stories come together is great, I love it.

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Does anyone have any trick for dealing with shit like this? Removing stickers on books without ruining the fucking paperback cover or leaving it permanently sticky?

I'm so sick of this shit.
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>Sprayed some de-solve-it on it
>Left with this, had to stop being it was bleaching the blue out of the cover
Th-thanks...
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>>24696797
use a hair drier or something similar to warm the glue, and it's easily peelable
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>>24699398
oh you already fucked it, rip.
next time try warming the glue
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>>24696797
Moisten your finger with water and rub it, retard. When it starts to feel sticky again it's time for more water.
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>>24699329
Ray Bradbury warned us about people like you


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