why doesn't futurism have any notable novels?
>>24687716Thanks for the rec! Screenshottting. Expect another thread about futurism this time next year where I'll give a review of it!
>>24686099cringe
how has no one recommended RAUN yet?
>>24688157Its such an under-appreciated work of art - phantasmagorical, poly-stylist and prophetic. here are some quotes;"... Dancing broke out in places. With no space to dance in, the entwined bodies were reduced to a sequence of ritual gestures, soon thereafter performed in the solitude of the only truly democratic institutions, the nearby hotels, which were not observing this holiday of universal equality.""... The trampled pavement spat a hail of stones in reply. The enraged soldiers charged. A single salvo paved the street anew. In response: the stony jaws of the street bared the teeth of its barricades. A massacre. Sticky, dun blood on the sidewalks.""... In the face of the leveling strickle of death, the people dissolving in the giant vat of the city clung spasmodically, in a blind centrifugal urge, to every aspect of their individuality, crowding together around the temples of their own rituals, like iron shavings around magnesium poles..."
>>24688235indifferent to the first paragraph but the next two and especially the last one, ooh fuck that's the good shit>>24688229thank you too for the rec, but reading the summaries, it seems like a "We." situation where the play is a denouncing the coming future rather than giddly awaiting it/(then)current developments in tech & society
Now that the dust has settled (lol), is it worth reading? Are the sequels worth reading also?
Comfy Bible threadI'm going to start reading the OT again as I've just finished the NT for the first time. Should I resume from where I left off (I had read everything from Genesis to 1 Kings) or resume with another book from the OT?
>>24686420Why did he do it?
>>24687618>usefull
>>24687742Because they mocked him for being bald
>bible tourist here: unlike the Koran, torah or Vedas, the Christian bible is unimportant to read in the original language, so why do you all settle for the KJB? why not read one the modern rewritten versions since the exact language is unimportant and it's just about the message?
>>24688408Personally I read either the OSB or one in my native language
How does /lit/ cope with the fact that science has decisively debunked free will, God, mortality, the immortality of the soul, beauty, and consciousness?To be fair, Hume had 90% of this ages ago too.
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>>24688350OP isn't that though, you deluded ape.
>>24688217"Science" is so desperate to justify it self that a huge contingent of physicists insist there's an invisible undetectable type of matter just to explain their flawed models. Blindly trusting knowledge because it dresses up as science is probably the stupidest thing you can do especially when it directly contradicts obvious reality.
All that shit will be forgotten or willfully ignored in 200 years so w/e.
>1200 pages of Schope >600 pages of HegelHow do you niggers manage to read through all this?
>>24688224Tbf it didn’t take much to make 19th century Russians do that.
>>24688165Reading secondhand material.
>>24688288All gave some, some gave all.
>>24688165while you were consuming slop, I studied the letters
The one continuous issue that I've been having with the little bit of sunni literature that I've been getting through, especially related to the biographies, is this constant reminder that this is THE way to live, and if you're not attempting to follow each of the examples set by the sunnah you are drifting further and further apart from goodness itself, and if God forbid you try to deny or argue against the fact that it is the superior way of life in comparison to the countless ones that have formed the whole of human history you are automatically deemed a Kaffir or a heretic at the very least. There's not much room for the experiential, the phenomenological, or for mere curiosity even, and it's a constant exercise in games of Purity solely based on textual evidence as opposed to exalting in the sublime as you would find in, say, a desert father's writings. Not to say that there aren't examples of the latter across islamic literature, as that's sufism in a nutshell, but the fact that they are largely and uniformly deemed as misguided heretics, and that the actual hadiths themselves explicitly argue against trying to find your own inner path through the skies tell you all about the mindset that is encouraged right here. Basically, I'd like to know how muslim thinkers balance this forced dismissal of ''the other'' with the actual experience of life itself. How does someone as brilliantly daring as Ibn Arabi find it in him to continue to hold that way of life as the unquestioned path to the Truth? It all seems so incredibly reductive to me that I find it revolting at times. Are you really supposed to accept that 98% of all of human existence is nothing more than the devil's plaything? I'd have no issues with it if it were a complete rejection of the world, as you'd find in Gnosticism or in Theravada Buddhism, but it's the 2% that really puts things into question here. I'm not writing this post out of malice or anything of the sort, as God is my witness I'm only doing it out of pure bewilderment, and I'm more than willing to call myself ignorant on these matters. Why didn't I post this in a more muslim-friendly corner of the Internet? Well I'm not really here for proselytizing, and I've come across a good number of very sensible Islamic threads on this board over the years believe it or not. If there are more of you well read muslims who have already been through this spiritual rigamarole, then please guide me with some useful books on this matter. I have no issues with untranslated material.Al Ghazali also sucks btw. The guy that I've enjoyed reading the most is this turkish Said Nursi fella, who was at the crossroad between a rapidly modernizing ataturk-driven society and the rotting corpse of the ottoman empire. Cool stuff.
>>24686139It means all those "muslim" rape gangs in the West should be crucified for their hiraba(banditry)
>>24685275I think that what's more telling is our maintained presence on this retarded website after so many years kek. But I will say this: I cannot claim to truly comprehend traditional salafist literature and fiqh because I have not read any of the 6-book long codexes (think ibn hajar's futh-al-bari) that are typically devised on these matters from cover to cover, which means that there are many nuances in the classical thought of the 4 madhhabs that are lodged in my blind side. The grammatical and syntax focused efforts on exegesis/criticism such as al-jurjani's works were fairly arduous efforts as well, and should make the case for a throughline of a serious intellectual tradition within ''convential'' islam, away from the sufi order of inherited knowledge.I think that ultimately, the crux of the issue lies in the panicking over the clashing of this once insular world with otherness ; or rather, otherness that has been springing up from within, which has never really happened in islamic societies before. It was always either a captor/captive sort of situation, or a gradual acceptance of islam by foreign societies, but never a growing sense of detachment from within. You can understand why a tradition that is wholly concerned with Purity managed to take a radical left turn in order to protect and preserve this proverbial pearl, which is this one, undisputed path to the Truth. That's why every single possible veering out of this path gets swatted away. There was a shock that struck the collective mind of the tradition once the enlightenment's trailblazing machines turned everything upside down, as it laid the ground for the first real, non-hostile, phenomenological contact between the (culturally) christian western tradition and the islamic one, with the advent of muslim generations growing up in a deeply westernized environment. The east is another question altogether. Those two contexts orbit around two axes that are opposites to a degree that's not even funny, and it gets worse when you're always playing the blame game regarding what exactly got us to this point.All I can say is hold onto God's mercy and bathe in the light of his wisdom wherever you can find it.
Reminder to all muslims itt that Jews have won. This wouldn't have been an epic btfo without muslims posturing about being good warriors and all. Oh well, I enjoy the coping :(
>>24687700>which is this one, undisputed path to the TruthIslam is basically just a Christian heresy fwiw. The fullness of the Truth is the Catholic Church--Magesterium is the buzzword to find what the Church really teaches. It seems that Islam has many many beautiful aspects but its flaws are all absent in Catholicism other than its bold claims of human divinity, which I think the Virgin Birth nearly logically demands or elicits, and the admittedly noble tendency and aversion to images and idols that Islam takes to such extreme. At the end of the day, genuine love of God is crucial but to know and understand God's love might include even death on the cross is a slightly different understanding.>All I can say is hold onto God's mercy and bathe in the light of his wisdom wherever you can find it.Amen, brother
>>24688019it's much closer to judaism than christianity, let alone catholicism and its syncretism of neoplatonic thought
>they're called oliphauntsTolkien really halfarsed this
>You are the lord of the rings, FrodoTitle in the first page. Bravo
>>24687427Because Middle Earth is North America
>>24687573>tubers are potatoesWe all know this. All potatoes are tubers, but not all tubers wre potatoes.
>>24687427Don't forget tobacco (pipeweed)
>>24687427Is it relevant that he‘s voting for Hillary?
"Anomaly" editionPrevious: >>24668754/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQRESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvCPlease limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)Simple guides on writing:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I wrote a short story and a professional literary editor liked it, how would I make it into a comic book? Do I have to hire one guy to draw it and one guy to color it in? Is there a directory of artists for hire?
>>24688273Good luck finding an artist without corporate support. Any decent artist is either only taking work from companies or is absurdly expensive.
>>24688273AI.
>>24686774I bombed your mom last night.
Why is it so hard to write FUN? I constantly catch myself rambling paragraph after paragraph about some irrelevant bullshit that's not even interesting
If Aleister Crowley was such a great occulist then why he couldn't he save himself from going bald? Same with Austin Osman Spare, he was bald and miserable and died in poverty.
>>24688248Holy shit that was you?
In Natures infinite booke of Secrecie, a little Ican read.
>>24688278important corresponding film
>>24688346Humans want something more special in life, and they fall into a spell of desperate delusion. They put themselves in position to be ensorcelled by charlatans, and what is a sorcerer if not a charlatan who has a lot more presence? A true wizard, or the sage, won’t necessarily see themselves as such. They won’t necessarily go out of their way to weaponize ignorance, though they use it conveniently to enchant others the same way a stage magician enchants others.
>>24688362>Christopher Walken lol anything he is in you know it's the good good. much appreciated
Post your own work and critique others. Or just talk about poetry more generally and share poems you like.
>>24683228Peroty?
>>24683228A specter invades a nightly retreat,to a land of lost wants and thoughts incomplete.Upon baren soil i stand, bewildered at the sightof a pale apparition shining bright, and bold she stoodTowering againts the ocean dark sky.Her eyes beamed upon my soulInquiring on days of oldof when her hands i held, herlips i felt, and soul i exploredHer voice trickled down to my earsQuestioning decisions made over the yearsThe siren's song closed with a gongasking if i'm happy to be where i belongComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24686396In de zeven zeeen zal ik zoekennaar de diepste waarheiden het zuiverste gelooftot ik elke dag heb leren vissenen niet meer verdrinkin de storm die mij bedroogI typed it into a Nokia phone while on a bike when I was 15. I think it's the only thing I've written that felt worth preserving. I sent it to my mother. She is pisces (vissen). She also is the storm. She liked it. I don't think she got it. Though I don't think I did back then, either.
>>24684315>>24686403I interpreted it as the night being warbled too by drunks, so both clear and not clear, in the way wodka makes people blurry, even if itself it is clear.>>24685703Isn't it sometimes worth pointing out which of the two it is and why? It's the clash of perspectives that makes communication interesting, isn't it?
I wandered alone through the crumbling stone.A shadow that roams.My people are gone, yet my spirit lives on.All that remains is empty, a stain.In the streets, in the towns all the people are brown.An Empire in rubble, no fighting, no struggle.All that's left of Old England; a puddle.
Redpill me on Brandon Sanderson.Are his books worth reading? Is he woke?
>>24686778Rock solid magic systems>Never makes up magic rules then breaks them later>Obviously played a lot of D&D>Power levels feel strong but have well defined limitationsServiceable story and characters >Manages ensemble of characters well>Dynamic characters have meaningful growth>Static characters compliment the world, support main charactersSatisfying>Wraps up story threads without glaring plotholes>Characters get satisfying arcs>Actually finishes and releases books, literally constantlyComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24688331Pretty sure I did. “Lord Spirit”, a prince who “comes back from the dead”, brings hope, magic and the promise of new life to people who have given up hope
>>24688354Yeah, you definitely didn't read the book. If you had then you would know he never promises them a new life and does everything he can to not be treated as a messiah.
>>24688384>new lifeHe brings back the ancient magic of the god like people. He returns agriculture, stops crime, and gets people to be self sufficient rather than rely on charity. It’s a new way of life/ a metaphor. Also, he’s pretty much literally the messiah
>>24688395Do you just think every hero is a Christ allegory? The book is just magic zombies (which the author has even stated to be the case) so no shit there's rebirth themes.
how do you guys feel about this one
Perhaps I didn't get far enough into it but it gets so repetitive for me. I get it's the catch-22 but every page is filled with catch-22s that it gets tiresome to read for me. I've tried reading it three times and I can still never get past the first ~150 pages.
>>24686973Fun desu.
>>24686973very funny book written by a jew.
I read this when I was 20 years old. It's clever and an interesting look into the war from the American perspective. It shows things that your average person doesn't think about regarding the soldier's experience. I despise the US military, but it's a good book.
(((Milo Minderbinder)))
Are there any good Marxist/communist novel in the second half of the 20th century or contemporary?
>>24688161I was asking for novels in late 20th century and on, but I’ll let it count.Thank you.
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>>24687919East of Eden, grapes of wrath?Wtf even is a "Marxist - communist" novel? Is it about how the production resources belong to the sexual workers?
>>24688270What novels did e.g. the French structuralists or Althusser-school guys read. You know like communist worldview, second half of 20th century, novel. Those guys must have read stuff besides theory. Just as an example.
>>24688336class-struggle is a recurring aspect of alot of 19th century French novels - to name a few; Zola's are a strong example (Germinal is the apogee here) another is Jules Vallès nightmarish autobiographical trilogy - imbued with a strong hatred of the bourgeois which climaxes in the author mounting the barricades of the Paris Commune to take his shot at 'barrack and bivouac, saber and musket, mustache and uniform' (only the first book has been translated into English - 'The Child' - as far as i am aware)
what lit should i consume in preparation for halloween?
>>24687439This in its entirety
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>>24687439A Night in the Lonesome October
>>24687707i'm not 6 but i do like goblins
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Are there any sci-fi/cyberpunk novels that are not action/crime/conspiracy/mystery focused, but show life in a society like that?
>>24688290>Cyberpunk is an aesthetic more than anything else and is quickly becoming retrofuturism because of how the world developed. It's a future that never was, so finding exactly what you want would be difficult. Not so much though if the cyberpunk aesthetic is dropped.Retarded take. It's happening just like it was said. The issue is that being radical and punk post-2016 means that any cyberpunk novel with "real" topical critique would be unpublishable.
>>24688358>any cyberpunk novel with "real" topical critique would be unpublishable.bullshit
>>24688358You don't understand cyberpunk.
Personally I prefer post-cyberpunk.
>>24688358How so? There have been cyberpunk stories published about torturing Elon Musk, assassinating Trump, killing all tech bros, destroying all AI, and all other sorts of things. Maybe you mean the other way? Surely there has been some of that as well..
