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Do you think your life will be more pleasant with anyone but me? Think about it!—Ah! certainly not!—Only with me can you be free. And since I swear to you that I will be kind from now on, that I deplore all my share of wrongs, that my mind is at last clear, that I truly love you—if you refuse to return, or to let me come to you, you are committing a crime, and you will repent of it for many years to come, through the loss of all freedom and torments perhaps even more dreadful than any you have known. After that, think back to what you were before you met me.

As for me, I am not going back to my mother’s; I am going to Paris, and I will try to leave by Monday evening. You will have forced me to sell all your clothes—I can do no otherwise. They are not yet sold: they will only be taken away on Monday morning. If you wish to write to me in Paris, address your letters to L. Forain, 289 rue Saint-Jacques, for A. Rimbaud. He will know my address.

Certainly, if your wife returns, I will not compromise you by writing to you—I will never write again.

The only true word is this: come back. I want to be with you; I love you. If you listen to this, you will show courage and a sincere spirit. Otherwise, I pity you. But I love you, I embrace you, and we shall see each other again.
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>>24784351
it's crazy to think this was a completely heterosexual letter in the 19th century; men talked like this
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>>24785631
The Brussels police department didn't think so.
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>>24785070
verlaine for not realizing that when you date a child they will act like a child.
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>>24785631
Je suis élu, je suis damné !
Un grand souffle inconnu m’entoure.
Ă” terreur ! Parce, Domine !

Quel Ange dur ainsi me bourre
Entre les épaules tandis
Que je m’envole aux Paradis ?

Fièvre adorablement maligne,
Bon délire, benoît effroi !
Je suis martyr et je suis roi,
Faucon je plane et je meurs cygne !

Toi le Jaloux qui m’as fait signe,

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>>24784467
>tfw even if one did, it wouldn't even be quarter as poignant, original and sincere

Is atheism more about not wanting to believe in God than about actual evidence?
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>>24785365
>The object of killing is irrelevant to it.
So we shouldn't kill animals or insects either?
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>>24785365
Wrong, the object of killing does matter. YHWH ordered the Isrealites to massacre the Caananites as a prerequisite for achieving the promised land. Saul lost his divine blessing when he failed to carry out the genocide of the Amalekites. Elijah and Elisha were directly responsible for dozens (if not hundreds!) of deaths between them in God's name. War and conquest, especially as the chosen people, is clearly a justified reason, as is purging heresy.
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>>24785017
Power seekers are manipulative psychopaths. Beliefs are optional window dressing. You don't get it. You believe in things. They don't.
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>>24784442
Sorry you weren’t good enough for the rapture.
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>>24784442
I just can’t stand dogma, that’s my real enemy. But the faith makes so many dogmatic just by virtue. I’ve been mad at religion for a long time now but the real enemy is dogma, I just don’t know how they can be separated. When you believe you know god and truth and it’s fact rooted in doctrine in a book.. The solution is probably to tie it to reason, human cognition, logic, etc. but that’s beyond most.

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>>24785097
I remember how amateurish and bad Philosopher's Stone read, never continued past the first book.
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I love how early 2000s fashion is in again. Give me baggy jeans over leggings on women any day of the week.
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>>24785727
based if true
early 2000s clothes were comfy
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>>24784885
Honestly for anything that isn't electric, gas, or plumbing it's worth looking into diy solutions. Or like roofing. Most home repair stuff is not that difficult
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>>24785727
u gay?

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>OH BOOHOOO!
>I'M RICH AND HANDSOME AND GET LAID A LOT
>I'M GOING TO GET ADDICTED TO DRUGS GOING TO TRY TO KILL MYSELF SEVERAL TIMES

What the fuck was this faggots problem?
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>>24785690
>whose life
must be improved*
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>>24778957
Obviously that feeling is sympathetic. The problem is when it comes out as woe as me, self-deprecating, entitled rambling. No Longer Human is a repulsive book. It is not even full of hedonism. It is just full of entitled misanthropy.
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>>24778957
Hedonism is partying it up, living as a decadent dilettante or aesthete, indulging. It’s drug induced mania.

This book is not that. This book is just sad sap miserating and choosing to be a worthless human being and then complaining about it.
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>>24784141
>any attempt of the state to correct its people
Not commenting on hedonism or materialism, but you have the soul of a slave and the spirit of an accountant.
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>>24778946
>OP is just an atomic arrangement of meat who enjoys putting other arrangements of meat into his butt
>OP getting mad at arrangements of ink on paper hurrr
You can make anything sound stupid if you’re reductive enough

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Unemployement: The book
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I knew someone that went so deep with this book in undergraduate that they actually published a paper which apparently a small handful of serious Hegel scholars highly value but he has been chronically underemployed ever since he graduated. Apparently he couldn’t or wouldn’t even attend a respectable graduate program because he wasn’t obviously leftist enough or wouldn’t write the diversity statement or something. Last we spoke, he was a bank teller in our hometown.
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>>24785757
Overproduction of elites, the same thing was happening in Germany in Kant->Hegel's time. You had highly educated people working as tutors for low pay and the buttblast blossomed into art and philosophy. That won't happen now, though, because of technology and entertainment. You can hardly find a person who reads books like this let alone writes something worth reading himself.
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>>24785778
I mean, that’s probably true in regard to him failing to find meaningful industry work, but his failure to go to graduate school can only be chalked up to leftist ideological dogma suffocating our institutions. You literally cannot attend or work at a graduate school in America unless you write a statement declaring and proving your commitment to diversity, as if that is remotely relevant to Hegel scholarship. These schools have become so exclusionary on ideological and biological bases that quality scholars are pushed out or away.
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>>24785809
Yeah that sucks. What's the point of grad school anyway? Even if you break into academia you're being paid to be a student forever, writing papers to deadlines and kissing ass. I've had a few friends who did it but I don't envy their lives. If your goal is to read and write and think you don't need to go to graduate school to do that.
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>>24784015
Hegel gives this anon gOoSeBuMpS

Should I watch the film adapted from the masterpiece of 2025 Nobel winner, or dive into the book first? I guess no one here will be able to read the book in Hungarian, and I'm lingering between the English and Russian translation (fyi neither of them is my mother tongue).
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>>24785663
The film is literally 7 hours long. Reading the book is actually faster
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I only watched the film, in one sitting (on the day of the Capitol takeover lmao, I completely ignored the news that day). It is a very good film, but it could have been shortened to 5 hours and a half - six hours...
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>>24785685
It could be shortened to 90 minutes easily.
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>>24785663
probably just watch the movie, otherwise it will be hard to imagine the context (unless you lived on a plains filled with communist infrastructure in the late 20th century)

Why has fantasy never had a literary masterpiece?
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>>24784715
Came here to post this.
Mervyn Peake's prose is a consistent delight iirc.
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>>24783527
>I would say it has literary merit and is a work of literature.
So is The Lord of the Rings, retard. Even The Hobbit as a children’s tale has a lot of artistic merit.
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>>24783566
Iliad and Odyssey are not fantasy, Metamorphoses arguably could be considered one, Aeneid was written to be the foundational history of Rome so not really fantasy either even if most Romans wouldn’t have believed this events to have been literal truth. Paradise Lost is fantasy though the author believed the events to have happened. Le Morte d’Arthur arguably could be fantasy like Metamorphoses.
But doesn’t matter because none of them are fantasy as in fantasy as a literary genre. It’s like those retards that say “Orlando Furioso is actually sci fi because he traveled to the moon” ignoring the whole context.
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>>24783338
Just read the first page of this, prose is maximalist kino

I stopped reading in my late teens. Every year I promise I'll get back to it, but I never have the energy or the motivation. I've lost the war of willpower.
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>>24784890
find you a muse lil nigga
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>>24784963
It's far from perfect, it's only that the grass is always greener. For one I am on Methadone and have to take that every day, I can't tolerate even mild discomfort of a flu let alone withdrawal so will probably be on it until I die or kill myself because I am a massive pussy. I am struggling to find a job, but secretly I don't really want one because I am lazy and just want to lay around and read, my girlfriend with whom I live has developed clitoral pain in the past 3 months and gets shooting agonising pains when we try and engage in intimacy beyond her just sucking me off, we had an incredible sex life for almost 3 years and now this.
>>24784977
It's normalfag, or normalnigger. Normie is a reddit term retard.
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>>24784977
>>24785522
>Normalfag ripostes fakecel Redditor in FLUENT board culture, STUNS truecels and wizards.
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>>24784900
Fpbp. It was the first word i was thinking while reading the op. It's not his lack of self-discipline but the way he writes that feels really faggot-like (or feminine)
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2 problems
1) you’re too saturated with media and other attention-time wasters
2) you’re not reading books that sincerely interest you

People who write on their books and litter them with sticky notes are disgusting weirdos.
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>>24785263
I do this
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>>24785237
>read a book
>what I'm reading provokes an interesting thought
Why should I not write it down?

>read an insightful passage that I may want to return to
Why should I not put a note on the page so that I can easily find it again?
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Countless great authors and philosophers wrote in their books. Even Aristotle wrote on his copy of The Iliad, which he gave to Alexander the Great.
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>>24785620
This
The people who don't take notes or write marginalia at all are almost certainly shallow readers
Of course, I have also seen what one might consider the obverse failing; copious 'notes' and highlighting and scribblings that say nothing at all
I suppose there might be some deep readers who strictly keep their notes in separate notebooks, but I don't know of any
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If you aspire to write fiction I think it makes sense to do this with novels.

Tropical Beach Edition

FAQ:
>What is worldbuilding?
Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.
>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"
Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.
>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"
If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.
>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"
Yes, of course you can!
>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"
Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.

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>>24782083
Piranhas
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>>24782083
Crocodiles and dire plovers.
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What it feels like to say "I don't know" in response to shit you didn't care to talk about in your setting.

>what is the tax code?
>what do they eat?
>why is there new world crops?
>why don't they use nuclear reactors instead of natural gas?
>how come the thieves' guild hasn't been stopped yet?
>if there is ghosts does that mean there is an afterlife?

I don't know (I don't care, imagine your own answer).
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God these threads are shit.

All anyone does is posts bumps, vaguely gesture towards their story they'll never write, or ask question in hopes othe problems do the leg work for them.

Or worse some pedantic asshole comes and says "that is le derivative"

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Why is this board full of leftists all of a sudden? I’ve noticed it a lot in like the past month. Their posts are very easy to spot since they are so shameless. Is there some subversion campaign targeting this board now in order to undermine discussion they don’t want happening? Pic related, some interesting books I’ve found.
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>>24785766
He sounds like a typical Republican voter desu. We are living through a mass psychosis. The shock of seeing a black man elected twice in a row gave half the country a traumatic brain injury from which it has yet to recover. I wonder what will happen when something genuinely terrible comes up, like a major war, a depression, a pandemic that kills more than 0.5% of the infected. Probably a violent collapse of our society.
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>>24785766
right, exactly: you want dissidents to be pharmaceutically neutralized by the psychiatric industry, because you are such an enemy of "the man" and "technocracy." right?
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It’s a default rightist board but when board quality is low a lot of us take a board sabbatical. Then the leftists move in, then we come back, and they leave. The cycle repeats every 3-5 years or so.
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>>24764011
This is completely horseshit. I’ve been on this board forever. I would not say it was an overtly chud board until around 2016 but it was absolutely without question NOT a leftist board.
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>>24785800
It's actually quite difficult to forcibly medicate someone in America, a judge has to sign off and the person has to have a strong history of violence or self-destructive behavior. Loads of insane people walk among us without any medication. But wait a second, weren't you all up in arms just two weeks ago about that girl in Charlotte? If that homeless guy had been on Haldol he likely would not have done it. But with you lot it's one thing after another, today it's le evi trannies, tomorrow it'll be microplastics, then chemtrails, a kaleidoscope of emotionally charged non-issues and conspiracy theories. I don't think you should be on meds I just think you should be put in a camp or something like that.

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>went to buy classic 1980s fantasy paperbacks
>stuff that often have a 50 cent stamp from book stores
>"That will be $80 + fee + shipping + tip + tariffs"

Hipsters have destroyed the vintage book market and have made it impossible for us actual collectors to buy them at the proper price.

They are now charging obscene amounts of money for disposable fantasy trash market novels. Stuff that used to sell for 50 cents in used book stores, they are now demanding between $50-$100 per book because of all the youtube 'book haul' hipsters.
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>>24785753
The difference is that I am actually buying them to read and many of them, I have read already in the 80s and 90s.

The hipsters only buy them to post pictures of themselves holding it, mouth agape, for twitter, youtube, and social media. Then they store it in a pile and never even pull it off the shelf. They have destroyed the market for actual readers and collectors.
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>>24785773
What do they do in these book haul videos? Just read off the title and comment on the cover?
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>>24785781
Do you think that a bunch of zoomers even know or care about this? They just want reddit upvotes. They can read the words, describe the plot (most likely with the help of AI) but they do not deserve to take it out the hand of actual collectors who lived through that era, who are the rightful controllers of fantasy culture.
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>>24785794
Are the zoomers/hipsters in the room with us right now?
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>>24785798
Go look on YouTube and see the floor of people holding books, mouth agape, books flooding out of their hands. Zoomers are just trying to get as many upvotes as possible. They are taking books out the hand of actual collectors. Here are two of the most recent examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLrgEzTgWM8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1SD6pnqJSs

Notice a few commonalities:

>Zoomer generation.
>It's just about quantity, not quality
>Shallow surface level descriptions of the books (because they were summarized with ChatGPT)
>No soul at all

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Post your own work and critique others.
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why did you have to
break my heart so callously
after what we shared
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Rapid, the air begun to cool, and quite
sharply—in the short period since dinner—
as it does on many an autumn night
when April fails in muffling the Sun's fury
during his daily tear across the sky.
The walls of my new house were thin; the gap
between the front door and the porch cement
was wide, and I felt the sting of the East Wind
rubbing its Ocean-scented unguent
over the irritated scab of Earth
I live atop of, as it seeped into,
and throughout every bit of the living-room.
I might've liked the chill a bit better
if I weren't already down to my undies.
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>>24697242
fine, here goes nothing. it's a bit long so bear with me

Coming home is terrible
whether the dogs lick your face or not;
whether you have a wife
or just a wife-shaped loneliness waiting for you.
Coming home is terribly lonely,
so that you think
of the oppressive barometric pressure
back where you have just come from
with fondness,
because everything’s worse
once you’re home.


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>>24705258
I hate the first line but this has potential
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>>24705855
This was pretty good

>>24706594
Not bad

>>24708327
This is excellent wtf

>>24718114
Not bad

I am writing a short story with my protag being a 36 year old married white woman HS Teacher that fucks her former student and likes driving also her only daughter just went off to college.
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>>24784633
I just made those suggestions because I think it'll help keep the story tight if you have a shorter cast of characters that are playing more roles in the story. Will also give you a lot more time to develop them of course (and because the cucking idea earlier anon suggested was very eroi desu). Anyway best of luck with the writing.
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>>24784612
This, and also she's a primary school teacher and her daughter just started high school
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I just realized Quebec has a weird as fuck school system. They end secondary school at 16 and then from 17-18 they go to a college prep school instead before going to college. Weird.

>>24785003
I dont have the balls to write /ss/ senpai
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>>24784182
Isn't this just the plot of the devil in the flesh
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>>24785141
Never watched that. Read the synopsis and doesn't seem like what I'm writing at all.

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I’m wanting to read more into fascism and it’s philosophical and political inspirations as of late both for myself as a fascist and as a means to better describe or show people the intellectual tradition it stems from.

I’ve read most of the boilerplate literature (Doctrine of Fascism, Mosley’s 100 Questions for Fascism and other assorted works, some Falangist works, schizoposts from when IronMarch still existed etc.) as well as some of the thinkers that inspired them such as Hobbes with the concept of the state, legitimacy and the sovereign as well as Nietzsche and his concept of Will to Power and to strive for strength and abhor weakness.

Is there anything else you guys would recommend I should read next or what thinkers I should look into, be it from the fascist tradition or from thinkers that predated it.
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>i like power
>therefore i will make a doctrine about me getting to keep that power, and only me!
there is your literature bro
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>>24772208
Thats because American thought in of itself its not too conducive to it. Regardless, a lot of the stuff i ingested years ago has been wiped away with me engaging with Pragmatist thought and phenomenology which are worlds away from Fascism. Thats not to say I have abandoned all precepts of it.
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>>24772108
this one is good
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>>24785370
My God how spot on he was! Thank you for this post.
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>>24782756
>Every ideological relic of "what it means to be Canadian" was at some point cooked up by a cabal of liberal party beaurocrats and dissiminated through joint State-Private media partenerships.
I'm not from Canada (been there a few times) and the way the Liberal Party taps into nationalism better than the Tories is an interesting thing to me:
https://youtu.be/jKQPw9vmG04

>>24778867
>The only distinct thing about the early fascists seems to be the idea of prioritizing unity and trying to figure out and use whatever secret sauce fuelled the Romans. All the retarded lists of "signs of fascism" apply more to supposed liberals than anyone else.
Zeev Sternhell wrote some books that treated it as a distinct ideology that fused together revolutionary concepts from the left with anti-Enlightenment concepts from the right. The story of its evolution in Italy was from revolutionary-minded types (often attracted to revolutionary syndicalism) who sought to overcome turn-of-the-century cultural decadence and saw class warfare by the proletariat as the means to do that. Sorel's theories about mobilizing myths and passions was influential (because the proletariat is too easily bought off by corrupt liberal parliaments and reform-minded labor parties), and this is also where the anti-Enlightenment stuff comes in because the Enlightenment was rooted in concepts like reason, science, and progress (Marxism identified with this tradition as did liberalism) compared to the intangible values like heroism which the emerging fascists based their ethic in.

You see this anti-Enlightenment stuff on the right today if you know where to look. Like, nostalgia for the Middle Ages and a feeling that there's more to life than just working some normie job. It's like romantic chivalry and heroism. Well, these ideas were super-charged by World War I, while the newly-minted fascists (who started as a pro-war "angry patriots" veterans club) dropped the class warfare stuff for nationalism. Like these former syndicalists started talking about "Italian workers" instead of "workers" and then dropped that for just "Italy." And this also linked up with the bigger anti-communist movement on the right since there was a revolution in Russia and labor unrest in many countries after the war.

But the military side of things doesn't get stated enough IMO. There was just a huge number of men who had been through trench warfare, and could in theory practice that inside their own countries. Ukraine today is like this but most Americans for example don't serve in the army, it's a relatively small percentage of the population. Israel has a lot of men serve in the army, something like 1/20 Israelis went off to war in the past two years:
https://youtu.be/cjL0VI2UmMY


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