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I am an animal, and all my desires and aspirations ultimately derive from the animalistic programming that I was imbued with at conception. I suffer every day from this condition, a condition that I never chose to have, and this suffering is its way of leashing and controlling my actions so that they are in accord with its primal Will. I cannot escape this, and as a result have no free will of my own, and this fact makes me feel humiliated and powerless. All I can do is continue entertaining my basal instincts like the pathetic slave that I am, and please my Darwinian overlord that is my genetic DNA. This makes me no better than any other mindless animal that lives blindly according to its instincts, and my death will be no different and no more dignified.
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anti-natalist shill thread #874372
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>>24786512
The Schopenpseuds have much to be pessimistic about, but the worst of it all has to be living a life where you refresh /lit/ five times an hour and post the same boring slop threads multiple times a day. The idealistanons argue about and discuss philosophy, the Schopenpseuds have nothing but memes and one-line zingers. Come home.
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>>24786533
>I have no argument so will resort to calling you names

Anti-natalism, like gnosticism, is irrefutable
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>>24786572
So just kill yourself then. What are you waiting for?
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>>24786593
That is entry level "you disagree so just kill yourself!!". Natalists really have no argument and it is very comical.

Do actual people feel this way? I received this image during autism therapy and was told to record my feelings in my journal every day. They probably thought doing this would improve my symptoms. But I feel this immense emotion that isn't written here.

Come to think of it, none of the books I've read ever depicted emotions like this. What about Pessoa? What does First Mate Starbuck feel when he fills his belly on the ship? Even in "The Little Prince," the emotions they experience aren't written here at all.

Are all novels autistic? Or did these "experts" genuinely believe this method could be therapeutic?
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>>24784787
That’s bad anon
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>>24783223
distracted aint a fucken emotion jfc
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>>24784795
unfocused, its under bad.
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>>24783159
Your experiences of blue are not identical to one another. How many shades are you lumping together in a single word? Hundreds if not thousands that have their own names, tens of thousands more identified just by numbers, an infinite number that can't be distinguished by human eyes, and God only knows how many that you can't see at all. This isn't even touching on the way that lighting, proximity to other colors, and and other things can affect your perception of the it.

>>24783138
The fact that good (and sometimes even bad) literature evokes these emotions is proof of their effability. If emotion couldn't be captured in words there would be no point in reading fiction.
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>>24782957
Where is envy

Did it ever occur to him that desire is the actual cause of suffering, anxiety, delusion, etc. instead of "civilization" and "repression" or was his life just too sheltered to come to that realization?
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>>24786264
Except Freud recognises that the human condition entails that many mo of our desires will be frustrated, which causes suffering. The conflict between the individual and civilisation is intractable.
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>>24786281
>Except Freud recognises that the human condition entails that many mo of our desires will be frustrated
Exactly, in that it is something else in the human condition that causes desires to be frustrated and therefore suffering, not desire itself and man's meaningless striving after pleasure and comfort because, let's be real, Freud was a hedonist trying to justify his cravings.
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>>24786264
You have to read beyond the pleasure principle to get it. It’s not all about sex and pleasure. In fact, often sex and pleasure are mediated forms of deeper psychological machinery underneath. The core point of Freud that you need to understand is that the ego and super ego are evolutionarily younger than the id and they all mutually resent having to share a brain with each other. We are still too early in the evolution of the brain to live in minds which are psychically complete. Basically we are prototypes and 99% of our issues come down to the fact there is some issue between the interfacing of the three.
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>>24786335
>it is something else in the human condition that causes desires to be frustrate
If by that you mean the simple fact we aren't all-powerful.
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>>24786382
>psychically complete
This means nothing. Also, beyond the pleasure principle is essentially just meaningless speculation on behalf of Freud trying to salvage his worthless theory.
>>24786405
>If by that you mean the simple fact we aren't all-powerful.
That is what Freud means. The anon I was responding to thinks that this was somehow a counterpoint to my point on Freud but in reality it isn't. Freud just locates problems in something other than desire or how the desire is merely frustrated/not fulfilled, leaving room for hedonists to speculate as to how to change the world so as to better accomodate pleasure/freedom. In reality, it is just desire that causes all problems and dissatisfaction since people still remain dissatisfied even after attaining their attachment and are filled with anxiety at the thought of losing them. The anon above may be right in his assertion that humans are backwards animals, but psychoanalysis is certainly not helping with that.

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The state of literature in 2025 is beyond parody.

https://archive.ph/0ZeJQ
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>>24783746
What's wrong with it?
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>>24786567
Believe it or not I was not looking for any particular answer. I just thought it was a perplexing thing to say that subject matter isn't important. I would opt to say it clearly is just based off how hesistant everyone is to give a quick and definitive answer to the question I've been asking.
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>>24786478
>masturbation can't be art
Pfft- caveman.
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>>24786478
If I jerk off to a painting of a naked woman, can it no longer be considered art?
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>>24786573
for both the "taboo content" requests you made, scat and children, you immediately got relevant quotes from a famous book everyone on this board has or pretends to have read, featuring both fucking a child and eating turds, and you just ignored it. people obviously do read well-written books despite shocking/odious subject matter. you haven't demonstrated shit.

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Unrefuted.
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>>24785490
you didn't read it
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>>24785490
well i read the chatgpt summary and agree that the incentives in the medical industry lead to a ton of fraud and doctors are not doing a lot of good, they are mostly in it for status and money
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>>24786125
I need to read this. I think my doctor is trying to put me on more shit.
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>>24785490
>rapes you and calls you a nigger

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>>24786549
You should read the annotated edition. It's actually drastically improved and will ensure you have better comprehension and memory of the core text.
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>>24786549
Enjoy, anon. It's my all-time favourite novel; requires a bit of a shift in mindset to enjoy if you've only ever read realist novels, but nearly every chapter is a joy once you stop caring about the plot and start enjoying the digressions.
If you end up liking it, check out Pierre and Confidence-Man too. Great novels, woefully underappreciated (mainly due to their difficulty).

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Tomorrow morning 10:00am BST the Character and Theme requirements of will be released.

Your writing must reflect the Character and Theme requirements – the character requirement doesn’t have to be your main character and the theme can be creatively interpreted, but those who just ignore it will not be voted for.

You will have until Monday 23:59 BST to write and submit.

You will have until Friday Midday BTS to read, vote and most importantly CRITIQUE.

Submit via rentry.co – you can change the url of your submission to your story name to be identified easily.

No word count, but anything over three thousand is most likely going to drag and no one wants to read your novel.

To submit, reply in the thread with your rentry.co url using a tripcode (Namefield: Name + “#” + Password).
ANONS feel free to submit! We will just use the no.# on the reply to identify your story.


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>>24785382
Yes, how could you tell?
>>24786143
What did you think made it possibly kino, and what did you think made it schizo?
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>>24786333
>What did you think made it possibly kino, and what did you think made it schizo?

Upon rereading if, I have reappraised it. It isn't actually confusing at all apart from the pee poo man video. It's a certified kino neo noir thing. Forgive me my retardation.
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>>24785329
Haha, fuck it really is. I was trying to find some sort of theft that would be in line with the theme. A crime which might as well not have happend. But, I got bored with it. /ic/ and ladies squirting on my bent pee pee?

>>24785721
Yeah, I ought to have developed the protagonist and the world further. My only aim starting out was to get the crime out of the way. By the time I did, I'd gotten disenchanted with it and was lead astray by shiny things. You know how it is my attention deficient brother, when the ritalin wears off.

>>24778321
Jess' thoughts and emotions are laid out well, it felt consistent and real. Well.. haha up to a point. I enjoyed your prose, it was written well. But the characters and story were not my cup of tea. Jess isn't unbelievable, she's just very dull. The spirit was also one dimensional and I guess they serve as polar opposites. One not in control, things just happen to her and one who's in complete control.

>>24772395
You do a good job of painting a picture with your words. I don't really have much to say about it. A scene was set and then the curtain fell.

>>24774504
The opening reminded me of the underground man, but only for a line or two. Your wordplay surrounding light and shadow tickled me. As for the actual sequence of events, they just passed by.


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>>24785329
>top vote
I'm flattered.
>>24786143
>Very slight. You have a bird universe going on here that I'm ignorant of. What content there is here is very well written
Thank you for a review. I wouldn't say it's an ongoing universe considering I made it up on the spot because I like birds.
>>24786548
I'll take unique and memorable, thank you. I just realized how high contrast mode affects the story for some reason while eating the indents.

Should I watch the film adapted from the masterpiece of 2025 Nobel winner, or dive into the book first? I guess no one here will be able to read the book in Hungarian, and I'm lingering between the English and Russian translation (fyi neither of them is my mother tongue).
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>>24785820
If you can't imagine that maybe you are too retarded to read, sorry.
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>>24785820
>probably just watch the movie, otherwise it will be hard to imagine the context
>this is advice on the literature board
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the english translation is very good literature, szirtes is a poet and a friend of his and spent a long time getting it as good as it is.
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>SATANTANGO
>SATAN TANGO
uhhh Im not engaging in your satanism, heathen.
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>>24785663
I've watched the film twice, both times in one sitting. It's really good. It's divided in chapters and the point of view characters keep changing, so it's closer to binging a mini series than watching a long movie. It goes flying. I have the book, but haven't read it yet. I've read The Melancholy of Resistance though and it's brilliant, and so is the movie.

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“Autobiography of a Yogi” (1946) is a fucking great book so far and I’d even call it a modern spiritual classic. If you’re looking to get into Hinduism but reading older texts like the Gitas, Vedas, or Upanishads generally sounds daunting to you, then this would be a great primer.

(Yes, to get it out of the way, I understand people today and online have grievances against Indians, particularly for flooding en masse into Western nations like the U.S. and Canada, abuse of the immigration system and H1B visas, etc., but it’s still just a great book. I’m aware of the meme answers I’ll get in response.)

As a story it’s incredibly entertaining, too. Yogananda has a great storyteller’s touch, a novelistic coherence to the whole thing, with lots of nested stories within the book and many fascinating characters met along the way. He’s a surprisingly eloquent stylist, too, the book is ornately written with poetic diction.

Some people have made it a habit to mock Westerners today interested in Eastern spiritual teachings, the whole excesses, hypocrisies, or flaws from the hippie counterculture to the modern New Age movement and the like, associated with this spiritual tourism; but, when you study some authentic forms of Eastern spirituality, like the Kriya Yoga lineage brought to the West by Yogananda and its roots in Vedic teachings, it’s hard not to see why some people are impressed by it. They go more straightforwardly into some deeper philosophical exploration of core existential issues than, perhaps, the mainstream forms of religion that more in the West are familiar with (Christianity, Judaism, and increasingly Islam today from immigration) often do, in people’s experiences with them. And this is not necessarily even in a supremacist way, but in a harmonious and universalist way, open to other traditions and even claiming a possible shared origin and unity with them.

Teachings like Yogananda’s make me see and respect Christ and Christianity in a profounder way, for instance, much as some may be angry or contemptuous of that very notion (out of the mindset of viewing religion like a competition).

What do people think? Any other Yogananda enjoyers here? Am I a race-traitor for even appreciating some of Indian spirituality seriously as a Westerner? What’s going on in your heads?
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>>24784758
Nigger
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>>24784763
Pajeet my son you are like 85% African.
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>>24784777
Trips of truth — but Jeets are more capable of enlightenment *because* of their lack of self-awareness — I was just calling you nigger because you are fucking stupid
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Autobiography of a Turd
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>>24784700
>Frankly there is a part of me that thinks eastern spirituality is just far deeper… sure the west is “smarter,” but there really seem to have been some Hindu masters who achieved enlightenment. Ramana Maharishi seems to have. Neem Karoli Baba might have really had special powers.

Its almost entirely because eastern spirituality/religions (all of which pretty much exclusively derive from India) put the work majorly on you. There are salvific elements, but for the most part, its all on you.

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"Frustration" edition

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>completed detailed outlines for like 6 different novels
>never actually get down to writing them
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>>24785578
>>24785355
Speaking of that, you could probably give ChatGPT a bunch of rules on how to write and let it rewrite your story based on that and it wouldn't appear like it's written by AI.
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>>24785578
ChatGPT is mediocre writing because it always goes for the statistical mean in its prediction of what people want out of an AI-generated story. I've seen movies riffed by Mystery Science Theater 3000 that were better written than AI slop - seriously, I'd take the original shooting script for Space Mutiny over an AI "rewrite" of it any day.

If you're genuinely impressed by AI writing in any way, you've either read too few actual books/stories written by people or suffered severe brain damage.
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>>24785959
No. This is a family friendly story.
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>>24785594
Any time I try this I end up being unable to think about anything OTHER than cumming until I do.

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>>24778604
legendary interview.
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>>24786327
glad I willed to post it
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>>24781858
Z/acc fag detected
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>>24786574
kys

>To be obliged to fight the instincts—this is the formula of degeneration: as long as life is in the ascending line, happiness is the same as instinct.

Okay but how do you avoid decadence? It sounds like the instincts eventually lead to this.

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How come /lit/ doesn't have comprehensive collections of downloads? Like /x/ has with occult books of every sort? Am I just missing something somewhere?
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>>24786339
I hate women so much.
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>>24786339
because there is no need for that. every book thats talked about on here is beyond easy to find online.
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>>24786339
So do I, but I have to goon sometimes.
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>>24786339
>mid mystery meat soft goth woman(?)
I'm listening

Which e-reader do you have /lit/? Are you happy with it? Is it complicated to get books to it?

I am thinking about the Kobo Libra but it seems like getting books onto it is an extremely convoluted process that involves Calibre, KOreader, some plugins, and I don't even know what. And then I looked into Calibre and the first thing I see about it is that it doesn't let you put books in your own folders and it copies your entire library according to its folder scheme. Is there a better library program and a better reader or a better overall experience that isn't like installing Linux?

At this point from what I've read I think I should just continue buying actual paper books because this all just sounds like an extreme annoyance.

Or maybe I just need to install a good reader program on Windows. What's a good Windows program to read books in like ComicRack for comics?
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>>24778719
read the prestige by Priest.
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>>24777830
>getting books onto it is an extremely convoluted process

I just copy and paste the books I download with IRC.
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>>24786152
Why not just watch the movie?
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>>24786164
The movie changed a lot.

They are both good in different ways. >>24786164
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>>24786164
For one example, one of them starts with doing séances, pretending to speak to the dead. The other annoyed that he pretends that they are real phenomena instead of magic storms the stage to reveal the trickery and in the scuffly the wife/assistant has a fall and a miscarriage.

Their early sabotages of each other are a lot more corny. They are more like the nerdy obsessive people that magicians are, and less bowie-like rock stars that everybody thinks are cool.

why did this rendering of Judge Holden by some DeviantArt artist become so popular?
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>>24782803
It's funny how the best depiction of him is AI
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>>24784365
Harold Bloom?
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>>24783164
Lol
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>>24782803
>what are we, some kind of blood meridian?
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>>24784391
Excellent ragebait, sir.


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