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Is it gay to read in the bathtub while drinking tea and smoking cigarettes
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>>24779591
>Is it gay to read
Yes.
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>>24779594
fpbp
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>>24783504
The book will take long term air moisture damage, but so long as you don't fuck up, it'll be good enough to finish. Cheap paperbacks will do. The cigarettes are also easy to deal with. The tea on the other hand requires some kind of samovar, and refilling the cup while protecting your book is probably a ballache.
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DESU I'd be more worried about the tea than the books. I have a very nice tea set that I got all the way from Japan and I wouldn't want to risk the cups in a bathtime setting because I'm worried I'd drop them on the tile floor and they'd shatter.
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>>24780238
>is it gay to enjoy a relaxing bath
Baths are disgusting since you're marinating in all the dirt that's come off your body. Not comfy at all.

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who is the audience for this crap
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>>24784213
He got his following because he used to make short meme videos with some clever jokes, then he pulled a bait and switch and started making "booktube" content with a heavy emphasis of leftist themes. His videos about books are nowhere near as successful as his old content and his comment section is full of the same old jokes that /r/books has been regurgitating for years
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>>24784341
Pretty much. Dude is a complete midwit.
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>>24784213
I did not mind him until he started crying about critical drinker's masculinity rant
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Don’t know who this is but the profile pic pisses me off.
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>>24784479
pretty sure he started off as booktuber actually before doing skits

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>>24783782
No, he's a fat woman.
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How to get "aura?"
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Ah, there he is.
That motherfucker.
What a tool.
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>>24784521
Don't take damage for 2 minutes.
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>>24784313
>Ireland
>resisting

An informative pic for /lit/
Plato advocated for more centralized system and unitary ideals; Aristotle advocated for political pluralism and a partnership of clans (which is the basis for a partnership of states in decentralized models).
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Let me give an example:
Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf -- I believe in his criticism of parliamentarianism, that Hitler is criticizing Aristotle.
>Does anybody honestly believe that human progress originates in the composite brain of the majority and not in the brain of the individual personality?
- Hitler
When Hitler says
>Does anyone honestly believe that human progress originates in the composite brain of the majority
It seems like he's taking a knock at Aristotle's food argument: because the food argument suggests that human progress does come from the concord of many and their progressive communication as an assembly of hosts.
I think a good example of seeing human progress in the composite brain of the majority apart from Aristotle's food argument, but perfectly illustrates how it leads to democratic thinking:
The Ancap example of the Free Market.
The rule of the Free Market is thinking along Aristotle's food argument: many contributors bring more food to the table, advancing and laying the foundation of their communication and friendship enables more advantages and discoveries. --That seems like a very Aristotelian bent to me.
...The stress on Decentralization itself... is IMHO another Aristotelian attitude taken to, stressing plurality of states and hosts rather than a more unitary method...
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De Jouvenel, who goes after his teacher Alexis de Tocqueville, is probably the perfect example of how covertly Aristotelian the advocates of decentralization are.
Here's an example of how Aristotle's partnership of clans & Aristotle's difference of political & economical science plays into that:

De Jouvenel / Monarchical vs Senatorial
>According to which of these two hypotheses is adopted, the conclusion is reached that the "natural" government is either the monarchical or the senatorial. But from the time that Locke utterly smashed up Filmer's fragile structure, the earliest political authority was considere to be the senate composed of fathers of families, using the word "families" in the widest sense.
>Society must, therefore, have presented two degrees of authority, which were quite different in kind. On the one hand is the head of the family, exercising the most imperious sway over all who were within the family circle. On the other are the heads of families in council, taking decisions in concert, tied to each other only by consent, submitting only to what has been determined in common, and assembling their retainers, who have outside themselves, neither law nor master, to execute their will.

De Jouvenel's distinction of Monarchical vs Senatorial here is the clearest homage to Aristotle.
The distinction De Jouvenel uses here is the same Aristotle uses.


Aristotle:
>The rule of a household is a monarchy, for every house is under one head:
>whereas constitutional rule is a government of freemen and equals.


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Rousseau, for instance, says royalist writers have always preferred Plato's view that political & economical have the same science over Aristotle's view that they differ.
Why?
You acknowledge they have the same science, then royal rule is justified far better because if a royal can govern himself and govern his estate, then that royal is well on his way to governing the state.
But if you take Aristotle's outlook (the food argument) and acknowledge that political and economical have a different science -- then 1st if the royalty are going to have any know-how they are bound to democratic input, then also there's a concession that Monarchy is not really proper for political rule to begin with.
Understanding that difference is a very big difference.
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>>24783881
Anyways, the common conventions about the Middle Ages and Decentralization are, in fact, Aristotle's political input in practice.
A big promoter of this idea is Alexis de Tocqueville who appeals to the ancient constitution of Europe -- that constitution Tocqueville refers to is aligned to Aristotle's political ideas, the stress on decentralization is exactly that.

De Jouvenel - Republic of Old
>The republic of old had no state apparatus. It needed no machinery for imposing the public will on all the citizens, who would have had none of such a thing. The citizens, with their own wills and their own resources – these latter small at first but continuously growing – decide by adjusting their wills and execute by pooling their resources.

>We do not find anywhere in the ancient republic a directing will so armed with its own weapons that it can use force. There were the consults, I may be told. But to start with there were two of them, and it was an essential feature of the office that they could block one another's activities.

>Only those decisions were possible on which there was general agreement, and, in the absence of any state apparatus, their execution depended solely on the cooperation of the public. The army was but the people in arms, and the revenues were but the sums gifted by the citizens, which could not have been raised except by voluntary subscriptions. There was not, to come down to the essential point, an administrative corps.

>In the city of old, no public office is found filled by a member of a permanent staff who holds his place from Power; the method of appointment is election for a short period, usually a year, and often by the drawing of lots, which was called by Aristotle the true democratic method.

>It thus appears that the rulers do not form, as in our modern society, a coherent body which, from the minister of state down to the policeman, moves as one piece. On the contrary, the magistrates, great and small, discharge their duties in a way which verges on independence.


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This theme of the Middle Ages and its laudable decentralization was first promoted by Alexis de Tocqueville -- De Tocqueville is mostly responsible for promoting that theme.
And Tocqueville's big appeal is covertly that idea of Aristotle's partnership of clans: hence his stress on the Nobility most of all and opposition to centralization by Absolute Monarchy (which, like in Aristotle's constitutionalism, believes that monarchical rule is improper for political rule).

Do actual people feel this way? I received this image during autism therapy and was told to record my feelings in my journal every day. They probably thought doing this would improve my symptoms. But I feel this immense emotion that isn't written here.

Come to think of it, none of the books I've read ever depicted emotions like this. What about Pessoa? What does First Mate Starbuck feel when he fills his belly on the ship? Even in "The Little Prince," the emotions they experience aren't written here at all.

Are all novels autistic? Or did these "experts" genuinely believe this method could be therapeutic?
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>>24782973
I think it works the opposite way. You go from a general emotion into a specialized shade of emotion.
>>24783045
It's a tool to pinpoint your emotions properly and thus deal with their roots.
>I'm angry
>Why am I angry?
>Because I'm feeling humiliated
>Why am I feeling humiliated?
>Because I was disrespected
OP is an autist. Autists have trouble processing their emotions: understanding exactly what they feel and how to deal with it. This allows them to select the appropriate feeling and deal with it correctly instead of lashing out or fuming or stimming. The first step to emotional stability and dealing with emotional problems is acknowledging them and understanding what you feel and then why you feel it.
>What does First Mate Starbuck feel when he fills his belly on the ship?
Satiation. Physical comfort. Physical satisfaction. Less of a feeling and more a sensation. Like pain or physical pleasure.
Novels are not autistic. The emotions are usually delivered contextually, through dialogue and actions and the words used to describe actions (he skulked away with his cheeks tomato red and head hidden between shoulder; she marched out of the room with fiery burning eyes and slammed the door behind her). Normies get it on the fly because normies.
You're confusing a took given to you to help you understand your subjectivity with literature, which was and is written by normies for normies. I don't know of anything that may come close to autistic cognition in literature. Lovecraft? Wallace?
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>>24782957
Where would distracted be?
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>>24782957
>autism therapy
Does your autism therapist know how much time you spend here?
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>>24783171
>OP is an autist. Autists have trouble processing their emotions: understanding exactly what they feel and how to deal with it. This allows them to select the appropriate feeling and deal with it correctly instead of lashing out or fuming or stimming. The first step to emotional stability and dealing with emotional problems is acknowledging them and understanding what you feel and then why you feel it.
They're likely young. Old autists like me learn from experience
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>>24783171
Have you read the book? Captain Ahab is driving this ship into madness, and they might all die from that madness, yet he must calmly work under the captain to serve his duties whatsoever. How can you claim that he experienced such a simple emotion as physical satisfaction?

why did this rendering of Judge Holden by some DeviantArt artist become so popular?
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>>24782803
Youtube grifters used it in their thumbnails.
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>>24782803
Because people didn't read the book and all they know is Judge Holden is supposed to be LE EVIL, which he is, of course, but through the book people keep treating him as if he came off as very likable and trustworthy.
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>>24782803
Because deviantart and blood meridian share the same fanbase.
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>>24782803
Judge Holden is such a good character, but sadly very few people understand him. A couple years ago I wrote an effort post on reddit explaining why he represents cowardice, but obviously the redditors didn't get it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cormacmccarthy/comments/15camvj/judge_holdem_represents_not_war_or_evil_but_human/
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>>24784391
Honestly I'm with you anon. To me Judge Holden just seems like one of those hobos you meet sometimes who are surprisingly eloquent. Also before I read the book I saw the things existing without my consent quote and thought it was intimidating but within the context of the story it just seems like a cope.

Who is the current protagonist?
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>>24782085
This.
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>>24778412
The giga Chad Xi stuff is a bit funny because his image in a lot of inward-facing Chinese propaganda doesn't fit the chad/virgin spectrum. He's not in shape, doesn't exercise, doesn't get angry or cuss out people in public. His image is more like a wise and steady uncle and many of his appearances is giving technical but basically obvious advice to normal people like farmers, engineers or cafeteria workers:
https://youtu.be/o7WG0iim-T8

He's a jack of all trades, Xi is. But in a way that does feel extremely Stalinist.

>>24781338
Prigozhin had more of a "history on horseback" vibe than Putin does.
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>>24781338
>too much groveling before the US
do you have any examples?
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>>24784428
xi is uncle iroh lol.

I'm remembering that one anon. thx
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>>24779937
You cannot name anyone else whom the entire world's attention has revolved around for the last 10 years. Whether you like him or not is beside the point. Cope harder.

Are difficult books more fulfilling?
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>>24780348
How is 100 years and crime and punishment on this? I thought they were challenging but not difficult. Faulkner or any philosophy book is far more difficult
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Heart of Darkness is only difficult to get through because of the egregious racism.
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>>24780364
Quentin
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>>24780348
I literally finished Finnegans Wake an hour ago. It is amazing, I'd likely never recommend it to anyone irl. It was captivating but I don't know if fulfilling is what I'd call it.
I also found The Divine Comedy more difficult.
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>>24784419
oh noooo not the heckin "racism"

Which e-reader do you have /lit/? Are you happy with it? Is it complicated to get books to it?

I am thinking about the Kobo Libra but it seems like getting books onto it is an extremely convoluted process that involves Calibre, KOreader, some plugins, and I don't even know what. And then I looked into Calibre and the first thing I see about it is that it doesn't let you put books in your own folders and it copies your entire library according to its folder scheme. Is there a better library program and a better reader or a better overall experience that isn't like installing Linux?

At this point from what I've read I think I should just continue buying actual paper books because this all just sounds like an extreme annoyance.

Or maybe I just need to install a good reader program on Windows. What's a good Windows program to read books in like ComicRack for comics?
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>>24782834
Post drawings
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>>24782873
This is the first one I made. I've never drawn in my life so I don't know how good or bad it is but I personally enjoy it. It's not even sexual for me, I just draw what I enjoy looking at and when I do it I enter this sort of meditative state where nothing else exists but me and the curves of this anonymous girl.
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>>24777830
I've got this model of Kindle I forgot the name but it's the more expensive model compared to the paperweight.
I've never seen anyone else use it and apart from its different shape from other models, the difference is that you can choose how "yellow" you want your pages to be. Not really worth the extra price but it has a nice premium feel.
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>>24783795
Oasis have a bigger battery and I think it refreshes fast than all the other Kindles I have owned.
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I have a kindle paper white. I am happy with it except for the cost which is like 160 dollars for the device, 35 dollars for the leather cover and 20 dollars to remove the ads that come on the screen when it sleeps. I have however lost my kindle and had to buy another four times so that goes to show you how satisfied I am with it

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It's good.
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>>24783740
If you're serious, get the annotated version. I've heard from a mormon friend that it's very good.
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>>24783985
>>24783817
2 recommends
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>>24783985
based mormon friend haver
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This book is really quite something special. It is truly unique. No book confounds the reader like this one.
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>>24784466
I wrote a really good novel that is a response to this book. You should read it.

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Yeah I think it’s over. Not just literature but art in general. Just being realistic here, I don’t see how it survives this century with the forces of technology and the sloppification of culture
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Post-mass-literacy society will resemble pre-mass-literacy society: autistic monks will keep literature alive for its own sake, not for market demand.

>>24777459
>Chad Xi can just wake up one day and think, “I want parents to read to their children more” and then marshal his vast surveillance and social credit state to just… make that happen.
That's not working out so hot with Chud Xi's birth-rate push. No one, and I mean no one, reads in China, btw.
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>>24784427
>Post-mass-literacy society will resemble pre-mass-literacy society: autistic monks will keep literature alive for its own sake, not for market demand.
Hopefully that means someone will want my books when I die. Not that I have anything of particular value but it would be nice if one or two can find a home and they all don't get pulped.
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>>24784475
Bro they're gonna get thrown in the dump faster than your auntie's Beanie Babies. Your Sudanese caretakers in 2080 are gonna have zero fucking clue what books are.
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>>24774439
*lights cigarette*
digital has been the death of art
*coughs*
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>>24783788
>>24783738

i thought it was just me that stopped watching

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“Autobiography of a Yogi” (1946) is a fucking great book so far and I’d even call it a modern spiritual classic. If you’re looking to get into Hinduism but reading older texts like the Gitas, Vedas, or Upanishads generally sounds daunting to you, then this would be a great primer.

(Yes, to get it out of the way, I understand people today and online have grievances against Indians, particularly for flooding en masse into Western nations like the U.S. and Canada, abuse of the immigration system and H1B visas, etc., but it’s still just a great book. I’m aware of the meme answers I’ll get in response.)

As a story it’s incredibly entertaining, too. Yogananda has a great storyteller’s touch, a novelistic coherence to the whole thing, with lots of nested stories within the book and many fascinating characters met along the way. He’s a surprisingly eloquent stylist, too, the book is ornately written with poetic diction.

Some people have made it a habit to mock Westerners today interested in Eastern spiritual teachings, the whole excesses, hypocrisies, or flaws from the hippie counterculture to the modern New Age movement and the like, associated with this spiritual tourism; but, when you study some authentic forms of Eastern spirituality, like the Kriya Yoga lineage brought to the West by Yogananda and its roots in Vedic teachings, it’s hard not to see why some people are impressed by it. They go more straightforwardly into some deeper philosophical exploration of core existential issues than, perhaps, the mainstream forms of religion that more in the West are familiar with (Christianity, Judaism, and increasingly Islam today from immigration) often do, in people’s experiences with them. And this is not necessarily even in a supremacist way, but in a harmonious and universalist way, open to other traditions and even claiming a possible shared origin and unity with them.

Teachings like Yogananda’s make me see and respect Christ and Christianity in a profounder way, for instance, much as some may be angry or contemptuous of that very notion (out of the mindset of viewing religion like a competition).

What do people think? Any other Yogananda enjoyers here? Am I a race-traitor for even appreciating some of Indian spirituality seriously as a Westerner? What’s going on in your heads?
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>>24784516
>streets shitter canon
>even the cover looks yellowish brown
ew
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>>24784516
>he
I thought that was a girl.
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Your post is mostly defending reading the book rather than really advocating it. 4chan will always say what upsets you. You invite it. Buddha was an Indian and no one says anything about Buddhist threads

can anybody help me in illuminating what "desire" actually is? more specifically the negative aspect of "desire"; and the difference between "desire" and the intuitive, natural movement which makes people just DO things.

the Buddha talked about 3 taints: desire, fear, delusion

through an alchemical lens these 3 taints shouldn't be eliminated, but they should be integrated into a whole psyche. delusion turns into clarity, fear turns into hope/courage, desire turns into what?

one answer is found in how people talk about a "will"; Christians talk about a "holy spirit". this spiritual movement which initiates our actions in the world, but isn't a will based upon certain desires? is the 'will' not the collective force hanging above this underlying field of innumerable desires?

in my opinion a conscious entity with no desire would just sit in a place and remain there until it died.. on a similar line of thought: even the Buddha had a DESIRE to preach wisdom & enlighten people, correct? he had a desire to eat food & survive.. otherwise he wouldn't do so.

on a more cosmic level: i have a desire for a certain type of food over another type of food because i feel it sustains my body better.. this is a desire in line with all the cells in my body. my body desires meat & fruits over candy. this is another type of "desire".

through an electromagnetic lens; we might be "attracted" to certain things or "repulsed" by other things and this manifests as "desire".

the body creates instinctive desire (food, sex, safety, etc..) the mind incorporates these through alchemy to be in line with a spiritual movement (the cosmos). or; the body creates a singular, selfish desire for food, the mind recalibrates this desire in line with the spirit to turn the selfish desire for food into a giving, cosmic ideal which helps other people who might be hungrier first.

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Fear does not become hope or bravery. The opposite of fear is actually power. The true origin of fear is a perceived lack of power. When one side has power the other is in fear. That’s why the elite want us to be afraid all the time. Then by natural law the power will shift to them. Simply stop fearing them and you will get your power back from them.

Desire I think is a trick. It’s a sensation or phenomenon internally that makes you believe that you currently are lacking something. That you need to go get or do something. It tell you that there’s a problem that needs mending. It is the force that breaks up wholeness and serenity. Thus is the root of suffering.
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>>24783008
>>24783002
I should note that in Buddhism the language tends to be more about dissolving the lower appetites as one dissolves delusion or uprooting them. One ceases to identify with them. The focus on training them and using them in the erotic ascent is not the same.

However, in Tantric Buddhism and Bodhisattva ethics come closer to the Western view. The pre-modern world, from Latin Christendom to India, to Islam, to China all tend to have a virtue ethics, and there are some strong similarities there. Modern ethics is really the outlier here.
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>>24783074
Yes, but there is a similarity between fear, hope, and anger. That's why Saint Thomas groups these under the irascible appetites. The Greeks would say these correspond to the spirited part of the soul, to thymos or the chest (the desire for honor and recognition as well) as opposed to the bodily appetites (aligned to bodily pleasures or pains, hedonism and safety), epithumia, which Plato associates with the belly. For Plato, the head (logos) must rule the belly through the chest. It is our strong emotions that drive us to conquer the bodily appetites when we need to. This allows us to pursue arduous goods.

Even the Christians, who mark well Christ's words about wrath, still see a role for anger in righteous outrage. Saint Diadochus of Photoki advises that we make a whip from the name of Christ and use it to drive the demons from our mind as Christ drove the money changers from the temple, for the body is a temple to the Holy Spirit (Saint Paul).
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>>24782909
>“Now, then, monks, I exhort you: All fabrications are subject to ending & decay. Reach consummation through heedfulness.”
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>>24782909
Westerners have a lot of misconceptions about Buddhism and the Buddha. I find that when a westerner learns about what Buddhism is really like, they tend to realize that it's a lot more logical and less esoteric and mystical than they expected, and it brings them some joy. Like they go, "Oh, that makes sense. I could apply this and make my life better without a lot of effort."

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>>24784015
The Aristotleanons can explain what Aristotle said, you guys just say he’s great but are incapable of describing what wonderful thing it is that he’s supposed to be saying.
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>>24784026
If you expect a proposition (“God is the final cause”, “the will is evil”, “we only know phenomena”) there is none, any proposition is at best half true. So there is no way to sum him up in that way, sorry. My favorite attempt in this line would be from the preface: “The life of God and divine intelligence, then, can, if we like, be spoken of as a game love plays with itself; but this idea falls into edification, and even sinks into insipidity, if it lacks the seriousness, the suffering, the patience, and the labour of the negative.”
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>>24784026
Whenever talking about Hegel, you may notice that people will criticize any attempt to summarize his philosophy, but this is a critical essence of his philosophy as a whole to begin with. His philosophy is of a spirit that is continuously engaged in growth and development. There is no fixed essence or absolute truth in the old sense of the term. The Absolute Spirit is always growing, developing, and being reshaped just as a lifeform reshapes itself in its process of growth. Criticism of everything at all stages and of all claims is necessary to complete the whole of the effort undertaken by him. It is only natural that a spirit of criticism of and among Hegelians would flow from such a philosophy.
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>HEY GUYS HERES MY OPINION ABOUT A BOOK THAT I NEVER READ
>NO IM NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE CONTENTS OF THE BOOK AT ALL IM JUST GONNA SHIT OUT STALE BAIT INSTEAD LOLOLOL
People like you should never have been taught to read.
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i am unemployed and just began readings sections of philosophy of spirit

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Books like Lautréamont's Maldoror and Artaud's Heliogabalus?
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Moravagine, Mafarka, Gog, Eden Eden Eden
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>>24783882
Thanks anon
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