Would a brain which has no sensory inputs - and never had - still have conscious thoughts?

>>24784853
Considering what can happen to the brains of those subject to prolonged severe sensory deprivation, ex. in solitary confinement, I'm gonna say no, but who knows? I'm sure you could Google the question and get some good guesses and theories.

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>call handyman to fix my cupboard
>see what he's doing
>think to myself "huh, i could've done that myself"
I don't know if it's age thing or a guy thing but seeing things done in front of me and realizing its something I could be able to do is interesting.

>>24784885
This was me when I locked my keys in my car and watched the smith use a little airbag and grabby strip to open my door in 10 seconds, could've bought those at a hardware store for less than I paid him.

A couple years back I had an immense bout of depression and lethargy, so all I did for like 3 weeks was lay in bed listening to Youtube videos of mysterious and creepy murder stories, generally unsolved. Anyway, once I got out of it, I realized how stupid it all was, but then I also wondered if you could make videos made up entirely of fake stories and pretend they were real. Because those stories get their power and appeal from the fact that they're true stories, right? But how do you actually know they're true? Some look up the news articles beyond, sure, but for the most part you're just trusting the Youtuber, and that's where the macabre entertainment comes from, but then if there were a channel just making up stories, and the audience didn't fact check them, well, wouldn't it have equivalent entertainment value? They don't actually have to be true, the audience only needs to think they are.

And then this leads to what happens when more and more of the internet becomes just fake AI-generated stories and content.

>>24780953
nah

>>24782378
retard

What's the best poetic form for a depressive poem?

why did you have to
break my heart so callously
after what we shared

Rapid, the air begun to cool, and quite
sharply—in the short period since dinner—
as it does on many an autumn night
when April fails in muffling the Sun's fury
during his daily tear across the sky.
The walls of my new house were thin; the gap
between the front door and the porch cement
was wide, and I felt the sting of the East Wind
rubbing its Ocean-scented unguent
over the irritated scab of Earth
I live atop of, as it seeped into,
and throughout every bit of the living-room.
I might've liked the chill a bit better
if I weren't already down to my undies.

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>>24784622
It's interesting to see these similarities, as Hobbes proscribes a unity of will via the Sovereign Leviathan and its covenant with its subjects that is not dissimilar to the unity of the whole that pervades the metaphysics and politics of Plato.

However, ever the nominalist, Hobbes metaphysics is entirely different, and its Leo Strauss's contention that Hobbes swaps metaphysics out with a geometric-mathematical epistemology, and swaps virtue-oriented telos with the overwhelming fear of death as the fundamental end to be provided by political order.

Carl Schmitt however still pins Hobbes down as a Christian political theologian, and that Hobbes is still working towards giving man the social room to personally reach his divine destiny via salvation. There is no room for virtue and salvation be strived for in the savage state of nature for Hobbes after all.

So I am curious where the truth lies here and what of these secondary interpretations get right and wrong and what we can gleam from the conflict here for ourselves. I think Strauss is correct on the metaphysical differences and onto the truth with fear of violent death and through it self-preservation being the new telos of political order for Hobbes, but it's wrong to ignore his clear political theology elsewhere and to reduce him into being an Epicureanian atheist as he does in Natural Right and History (pgs. 169-171). The tension lies on the fault within the true purpose of the state, and whether Hobbes is striving for Summum bonum still or if Strauss is correct in that Hobbes follows Machiavelli in the deliberate lowering of ultimate political goals for the obtainment of the achievable and obtainable efficient political state.

Apologies if this is more or less totally tangential to the initial analysis of >>24784622, I just got done from a day long writing session on Hobbes that ended with this tension coming to the fore without resolution.

>>24784891
>It being a phantom of true virtue doesn't deny that it isn't virtuous for the city: just that it is less practical for a city.
He doesn't say it's a phantom virtue, he says it's a phantom of the real thing. It's false justice, it's not real. This is an important point Plato wants to make. Political justice isn't the real thing, and no one will ever see it in their lifetimes, so focus on yourself. From Book 9:

>"Rather, he looks fixedly at the regime *within* him," I said, "and guards against upsetting anything in it by the possession of too much or too little substance. In this way, insofar as possible, *he governs his additions to, and expenditure of, his substance*."
>"That's quite certain," he said.
>"And, further, with honors too, he looks to the same thing; he will willingly partake of and taste those that he believes will make him better, while those that would overturn his established habit he will flee, in private and in public."
>"Then," he said, "if it's that he cares about, *he won't be willing to mind the political things*."
>"Yes, by the dog," I said, "he will *in his own city*, very much so. However, perhaps *he won't in his fatherland* unless some divine chance coincidentally comes to pass."
>"I understand," he said. "*You mean he will in the city whose foundation we have now gone through*, the one that has its place in speeches, since I don't suppose it exists anywhere on earth."
>"But in heaven," I said, "perhaps, a pattern is laid up for the man who wants *to see and found a city within himself* on the basis of what he sees. *It doesn't make any difference whether it is or will be somewhere*. For he would mind the things of *this city* alone, and of no other."

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>>24784897
>Again, you're using a set of technical terms, "centralyzed system," whereas Plato's talking about what a just regime might look like.
Now you're saying that the term "centralized" is inadequate because it is a modern, technical term.
A centralized system is a unitary and corporatist system exactly like Plato is describing here. I think the term "centralized" in the context that it is used aptly describes what Plato is saying in Republic about the State being like an individual and operating as one man and having a community of pleasures and pains.
If you consider centralized systems, that is exactly what they do: they spread the policy out so it can be felt alike in all members, exactly like Plato suggests.
Whereas take Aristotle's partnership of clans as a view for more federal or confederate systems: how does this idea of a partnership of clans not adequately describe something like a confederation system where they're fully self-governing and simply united by their friendship and love of virtue in the same ideas? Or like the Orthodox Church is -- for all accounts, that really is what the Orthodox Church structure is like, and that is the basis of their church hierarchy really: and the difference between this corporate system that Plato describes with the State under a jurisdiction like unto one person describes that seen in Catholicism, jurisdiction reaches unto every diocese while for Orthodoxy it is like a partnership of clans.
...
What is a centralized system if not exactly the way Plato is describing here: a system where it tries to act as one personhood, and where it is not a partnership of clans.

This seems like real world application and spelling out how this difference pointed out in OP is actually persistent in understanding not only real world politics (like Central Systems vs Decentralized Systems) -- but even Church Hierarchy.
And again: a lot of people praise the Holy Roman Empire for decentralization: the real idea deep down they're praising is Aristotle's notion of a partnership of clans (the many noble houses working together and electing an emperor by their mutual consent and love of virtue) whereas they hate modern systems that are more like Plato's unitary policy, like De Jouvenel describes, it acting as one entity rather than a bunch of self-govenring clans associated by their friendship and love of virtue...

>>24784929
>Because *even a tyrannical city* is an association of families and clans
Let me clarify it: a tyrannical city for aristotle is not even a city, but a great estate like his 5th form of kingship.

>and you're overlooking his appreciation for monarchies and aristocracies.
I do doubt Aristotle's appreciation for monarchies, but not for aristocracies.
I think many people praise the Holy Roman Empire because it is like Aristotle's City -- it is Aristotle's Politics on a map.
It's a partnership of clans electing their emperor (in the way Aristotle prescribes) whereas they hate modern states for being more like Plato suggests in some regards, for being unitary entities rather than being a partnership of clans united by virtue.

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>>24784916
>obtainment of the achievable and obtainable efficient political state.
Meant just "the achievable and efficient political state,"* tunnel vision tripped me up in review.

>>24783296
Everytime i try to read dickens i find it tedious despite being able to read what many consider to be more "difficult". English is my only language and I can read more archaic English.
I just haven't enjoyed any excerpt from Dickens

>>24781434
That is a deliberate style choice. Like the banging of a gavel or the formulation of a legal document. It's almost like a telegram message, very mechanical and cold, reflected both in the weather/atmosphere of the scene and the contents of it (pertaining to a court of law). It's meant to sketch an unpleasant scene, a scene that makes you uneasy and on edge against the injustices about to unfold.

>>24783888
He does have a particular style, but once you get into it, there is no one better. I like the whole first few pages of A Tale of Two Cities, but just consider this little excerpt:

France, less favoured on the whole as to matters spiritual than her sister of the shield and trident, rolled with exceeding smoothness down hill, making paper money and spending it. Under the guidance of her Christian pastors, she entertained herself, besides, with such humane achievements as sentencing a youth to have his hands cut off, his tongue torn out with pincers, and his body burned alive, because he had not kneeled down in the rain to do honour to a dirty procession of monks which passed within his view, at a distance of some fifty or sixty yards. It is likely enough that, rooted in the woods of France and Norway, there were growing trees, when that sufferer was put to death, already marked by the Woodman, Fate, to come down and be sawn into boards, to make a certain movable framework with a sack and a knife in it, terrible in history. It is likely enough that in the rough outhouses of some tillers of the heavy lands adjacent to Paris, there were sheltered from the weather that very day, rude carts, bespattered with rustic mire, snuffed about by pigs, and roosted in by poultry, which the Farmer, Death, had already set apart to be his tumbrils of the Revolution. But that Woodman and that Farmer, though they work unceasingly, work silently, and no one heard them as they went about with muffled tread: the rather, forasmuch as to entertain any suspicion that they were awake, was to be atheistical and traitorous.

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>>24784045
>very mechanical and cold
my kind of literature

>>24784049
this is just the style of the time, which we generously do not formally refer to as 'deliberately embarrassing'

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>>24782873
This is the first one I made. I've never drawn in my life so I don't know how good or bad it is but I personally enjoy it. It's not even sexual for me, I just draw what I enjoy looking at and when I do it I enter this sort of meditative state where nothing else exists but me and the curves of this anonymous girl.

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>>24777830
I've got this model of Kindle I forgot the name but it's the more expensive model compared to the paperweight.
I've never seen anyone else use it and apart from its different shape from other models, the difference is that you can choose how "yellow" you want your pages to be. Not really worth the extra price but it has a nice premium feel.

>>24783795
Oasis have a bigger battery and I think it refreshes fast than all the other Kindles I have owned.

I have a kindle paper white. I am happy with it except for the cost which is like 160 dollars for the device, 35 dollars for the leather cover and 20 dollars to remove the ads that come on the screen when it sleeps. I have however lost my kindle and had to buy another four times so that goes to show you how satisfied I am with it

Kobo software experience is the biggest pile of shit I've ever had to deal with. Constant crashing just navigating the device like normal, the battery randomly draining (I'm assuming an issue with the 1st party sleepcover), and random DRM issues cropping up where every book, regardless of format, is just flagged as requiring some kind of authentication. Easily fixed by resetting the device, but crops up a lot.

You have to deal with looking at Amazons storefront on a Kindle, but it's still easy enough to pirate books on one, and the software experience probably just works better. I'd go with a used kindle desu

>>24783703
This but the opposite.

What else would I like if I liked Aickman's brand of subtle horror more than the "woahh it has like a million eyes and a billion teeth and omfg I'm going cuhrayzeee!" brand of horror that is popular nowadays?

>>24784679
For older, M.R. James, for newer, Reggie Oliver. You could also check out Walter de la Mare for another older author, but I found his prose dry and difficult to get through.

>>24784679
Dark Gods by T.E.D. Klein
Dark Companions by Ramsey Campbell
Songs of a Dead Dreamer by Thomas Ligotti

>>24776932
It's not racist in content but in essence. "Evil aliens invading" and "ancestral curses" are just niggers invading and niggers passing on their shit genetics.

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I don't remember if this one is /lit/ or /mu/ but either way it's still funny

>>24784579
I mean this German is typing in English and so should be using English format of quotation marks.

>>24784906
English speakers should be using nordic runes instead of the Latin alphabet.

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>>24778154
>RELIGION OF THE JUDEANS
>real shame there is no word for this

Do you think any chuds ever actually got a Christian to abandon their faith with a 4chan shitpost?

>>24782918
Stlll younger than the Torah.

interesting stuff.

>>24780289
>was wrote
why can't cretins use the past participle? feels like a pattern among the cognitively inadequate

>>24768472
>lit
>shit

>>24783048
>corrupted into incest
Based based based

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>>24782883
Anon, whatever you read in AO3 is not canon.

>>24784083
The world book alleges he was a lusty lad from an early age.

Also cute Viserion.

I just dreamt about Cersei shit talking Stannis and saying that he could be beaten in a hypothetical fight at Casterly Rock. My mind generated it the same way the show's intro did other castles, albeit inaccurately. I couldn't help but think how hard Stannis would have raped anyone with just a few men and how full of shit Cersei was. Like he only needed a handful of men to shut her up.

>>24784618
This book was good but it's quite literally YA.

this book made my pee pee hard

>>24784618
Yeah it's crazy how even chads are becoming lonely simps begging for a crumb of pussy now. Truly dark times.

I read South of the Border West of the Sun a few years back. I didn't enjoy it very much.

I was left with the impression that if the author was not Japanese and had a name that was very recognisable, western readers would not find him so impressive. For instance, it felt like there were many times I could give the author more credit if I ascribed some sort of 'wisdom' to what he was saying, because he was Japanese and therefore there were hidden layers of depth behind his awkward prose. Usually in this case the book would stay with me, and the hidden depths would be revealed to me over time as the story played on my mind post-reading. But this never happened, and I made the decision to go with what my gut said: 'this is not a good book'.

>>24784188
Romeo and Juliet

>>24784574
shit had me smiling like a schoolgirl

>>24784230
Didn't she orgasm from a vision of Jesus

>>24784574
Yes
>>24784676
Sad

>>24784574
>you should like settle for someone else’s left overs and then spend the rest of your life trying not to kill yourself

Yeah that was a lesson

>>24784026
If you expect a proposition (“God is the final cause”, “the will is evil”, “we only know phenomena”) there is none, any proposition is at best half true. So there is no way to sum him up in that way, sorry. My favorite attempt in this line would be from the preface: “The life of God and divine intelligence, then, can, if we like, be spoken of as a game love plays with itself; but this idea falls into edification, and even sinks into insipidity, if it lacks the seriousness, the suffering, the patience, and the labour of the negative.”

>>24784026
Whenever talking about Hegel, you may notice that people will criticize any attempt to summarize his philosophy, but this is a critical essence of his philosophy as a whole to begin with. His philosophy is of a spirit that is continuously engaged in growth and development. There is no fixed essence or absolute truth in the old sense of the term. The Absolute Spirit is always growing, developing, and being reshaped just as a lifeform reshapes itself in its process of growth. Criticism of everything at all stages and of all claims is necessary to complete the whole of the effort undertaken by him. It is only natural that a spirit of criticism of and among Hegelians would flow from such a philosophy.

>HEY GUYS HERES MY OPINION ABOUT A BOOK THAT I NEVER READ
>NO IM NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE CONTENTS OF THE BOOK AT ALL IM JUST GONNA SHIT OUT STALE BAIT INSTEAD LOLOLOL
People like you should never have been taught to read.

i am unemployed and just began readings sections of philosophy of spirit

>google phenomenology of spirit pdf
>read the first paragraph of A. Consciousness
No wonder Schopenhauer hated this guy.

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>>24784753
A change in the course of events is jusssstttt about to begin unfolding unlike anything that has ever happened before.

>>24778400
Elon Musk without a doubt

>>24784071
>Netanyahu is allowed to browbeat the man. The CIA shot his fucking ear off as a warning not to get in the way of the Mason/Zionist plan. Don't be a fool.
He just shut down Bibi's war with his peace plan

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>>24778400
Me but unironically.

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>>24781338
>I really don't like him as a war leader.
*preps anti-Democrat meme*
>He shows too much restraint
*switches to unbelievably-based meme*

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>>24781306
>Is it true that french is a much more sophisticated and elegant language than English?
God no. Have you ever heard French spoken in person? It sounds like they're trying to speak English with a dick in their mouth.

>>24781306
When men say this, they're referring to the cold mathematical qualities of a language such as cases and gender. French is 'sophisticated' because it has le chairs and la faggots or something

France seems like it has better writers. I wouldn't know since I only know English and can only read translations.

English has like 800,000 words, French only has 135,000. You can't be as sophisticated with French

>>24781306
How do I say this janky shit in french?
>The victim in question was Mr Smith, whom was murdered by his ten year old daughter.
Whom between a preposition and question mark sounds natural, but as shown here if it's used before a verb it ruins the flow of the sentence.