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Does capitalism suck?
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>>24836241
the problem is that it's a system that tells you greed is good, compassion is weakness, everyone who didn't make it was lazy and accumulating wealth is the highest measure of a good citizen
then it breeds corruption on systemic unsustainable level, outsources labor opportunities to their biggest rival, makes a retard loop of nepotism over generation that makes monarchy blush (monarchy at least purges tards by rivals(family that isn't and political)) and funds itself by ripping off of the income of the few ones still working
it's unsustainable and silly system in which the inherent flaws are painted as few bad apples and that claims that the reactionary movement to it that is just a soft system reset is its only alternative

monarchs are easier to depose and held accountable than faceless people with indirect power, the twice removed nature of the people the system puts in charge of handling power and their near total unaccountability because of it makes cocky tards that believe their own hype to the point that they saw down the tree that feeds them while pointing to the people eating the apple peels for fault
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>>24836249
I'd widen the net to say Abrahamic religions more broadly
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>>24836327
Alternative is becoming a more ahistorical species and burning the records once every few centuries to keep things fresh, as Alan Watts suggested
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>>24836249
>white men are.. le bad
are you thinking of jews, the anglo-saxons, the french or "elite" in general?
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>>24836241
Maybe.
The ultimate truth that emerges from recorded history is that, much in the same way evolution reliably trends towards the same features, human civilization trends towards feudalism and oligarchy.
"Capitalism" is merely a new path towards these same things. What people call "late stage capitalism" is in fact clear as day feudalism and oligarchy.
The only argument to be made is whether capitalism has bred a more dangerous strain of these than before. If capitalism is indeed the most all encompassing pervasive system that has ever existed then a believable case could be made for that.

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i wonder when they will learn
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I need a doggy scrotum to go.
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>>24838212
The only way?
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>he said so mean things on a 4channel thread about writing your thoughts, i had to do it!
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>>24838252
They'll learn when they're dead.

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>show someone a piece of poetry
>they immediately demand you alter it to meet their needs
>refuse
>well, don't ask me to read anything if you can't take the criticism
I get it, put it out there, you inevitably get shit on, but why is this so common for poetry in particular? No one does it for the short stories I show them, or the essays.
Do people do this in art galleries as well? "Oh, that one's shit, he should have held his brush at seventy degrees instead"
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>>24838235
*copyright
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so passionate, so personal
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I can't believe the author was willing to publish something like this, it really shows who and what they are, deep within. It's amazing, I wish I could unleash myself in this way.
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Come back, O craven one! Take your concession like a man!
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may as well have cracked open the man's diary. holy shit that's raw stuff.

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So what's exactly stopping you from posting your thoughts on the books you read and monetizing it?
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>>24837597
Gay
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>>24833927
>If there was an actual way to dialogue >like on 4chan
LMAO
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>>24837597
>This post next to a frog picture
You’re definitely having a hard time in the closet, faggot
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>>24833886
it would be too demoralizing when nobody reads or watches it
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>>24837597
>i will NEVER listen to the opinions of a woman
fr

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You need to read 400 books before you post on /lit/. If you still haven’t reached this level, lurk moar.
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Why don't people just talk about the books they've actually read and listen when it's something they haven't read about? It would solve all problems.

Growing up, I was most interested in reading, understanding, and emulating the great works of the western canon. Today I am almost exclusively interested in essays, blogs, old journals, and various work from random historical nobodies.

What the fuck is wrong with me?
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>>24838133
you were supposed to have written your great work by now. it's all over, anon. don't worry. soon you won't be able to read at all anymore, like me.
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>>24838142
I mean, maybe, I guess. Maybe there's some truth to that. I don't know. In my defense, I should clarify that I now truly enjoy reading these old essays, obscure blogs, old journals, and various work from random historical nobodies far more than I enjoy reading, understanding, and emulating the great works of the western canon. It's all so confusing.
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>>24838170
if you enjoy it more, why does it matter?
you read the canonical greats because you felt compelled to, because you *had* to. you read what you do now because it pleases you. you've done enough work to know what you like, and so you've found it. nothing to be ashamed of. it would be a shame if, from this new perspective, you let people bully you into reading the canon.
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>>24838202
mostly just making conversation. just curious if anyone else has experienced a similar sort of drastic taste change as they've aged.
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>>24838240
yeah, i went from crichton and holes to melville and melville (and that's it)

>age
>current book
>your thoughts on it
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first time i made these threads and it didn't even come close to 200 replies. bad omen
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>>24824312
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The Last Darkness
Uh... kinda liked it. short and to the point , a story that mixes unreality with the reality of a crazy woman dissatisfied with her marriage (she married her cousin, lol). Basically Madame Bovary, but if all the lovers and infidelities existed only in her imagination, because she can’t attract any man’s interest (she tries) and in the end, she resigns herself to spending the rest of her life with her husband.
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>>24834492
>going to read Devils by Dostoevsky
You're probably aware of this, but you might want to read a bit on the political, spiritual climate of Russia in the mid-19th century (Orthodox Russian Christianity vs. atheism, Slavophilism vs. cosmopolitanism, nihilism, revolutionary groups etc.). It'll make that book way, way easier to understand. But this is a topic that Dostoevsky already covers in his other books although to a less literal extent.

>>24837926
I only ever posted here from time to time but I'm trying to commit as it encourages me to read and write more.
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>>24824312
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Just finished Infinite Jest

I'm troubled because I keep seeing people try to make schizo theories about the truth, meanwhile all I did was just read the book and enjoy it. Am I a midwit for thinking everything we need to know of the story is written in the book?
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>>24824312
A different kind of animal by Robert Boyd , 28.

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>anon, the first sales_numbers of your book just came in
>3342 sold in total. 520 were prints, 2670 in audiobooks and 152 ebooks
>80% of consoomers *listened* to my writings.
>copyofacopyofacopy.wav

How will I cope with the fact that the numbers point out that the audience treated my work as slop? Obviously audiobooks are a lesser form of art than actually reading a book, right? Not that I would know because I do not consume either of those.

The irony here is that in my script I went on a rant calling the "reader" a consumer who "reads" and most likely 80% of the faggots *listened* how I call them out for *reading*. They are now to think of me as a fucking tool. It's over.
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>>24832920
I’m a tourist but I don’t think it’s a lesser form. It’s a different way to experience it. I would consider listening to an audiobook “reading,” though. If the purpose is leisure or genuine personal growth, I insist on physical copies. It’s more of a philosophical choice though. Digital books are too easy to alter. Either the ebooks themselves or the population of ebooks. At least with physical, propaganda through change is much slower.
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If I had those kinds of sales numbers, I'd be ecstatic. All my novels put together have sold less than 50 copies over the 3 years they've been out.
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How the fuck did you get a publisher?
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>>24832900
You justified the purpose of someone else. A guy who records himself reading books.
Or is it already all done by AI now?
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>>24838076
as soon as i detect AI voiceover of anything i shut it off

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>lonely loser falls madly in love with the first girl that shows him any attention
>she gets ick'd out when he confesses his love
>she dumps him for Chad after leading him on a bit longer
Why do people love this story so much? It's the most blackpilled shit ever
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>>24835621
>Girls love it because to the very bitter end he still justifies her and keep sidelining her
I've been seeing the opposite. Lots of girls dropping it cause they can't stomach main guy. I saw one review where the girl was complaining, saying he was too pathetic, he was a creep, loser, incel, etc, and she couldn't understand why Nastenka even gave him the time of day.

Idk. I feel like most guys can empathize with him even if they don't like him but some women really struggle to see him as a human being. It's weird.
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>>24837712
This is a loud minority view though, most of the readers are still women
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>>24835586
>ick'd
>Chad
>blackpilled

Go back.
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>>24838049
Gonna cry you little bitch?
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>>24835586
It actually is sorta blackpilled but not for the reasons you think.

1. Nastenka tells the MC from the beginning that they will only ever be friends and gives him the exact reason why. She doesn't actually manipulate him at all or you could say they both manipulate each other. Either way you want to look at it the situation is made obvious to him and he chooses to continue of his own free will. The MC is obviously not really in love with Nastenka. He gets feelings for her only because she is the first one to show him attention and she happens to be a young girl.

2. Nastenka is not a particularly likeable or interesting character. There is nothing at all special about her. She is just a random average girl with not much to offer. If you actually pay attention to what she says and does she's a rather dull girl. The MC on the other hand is revealed to be a more interesting and intelligent character. Nastenka doesn't truly understand or value the MC except in a shallow way. The idea that dating her would mean success for the MC is shortsighted.

3. When Nastenka thinks the other guy has abandoned her she goes back on her word and is willing to date the MC. This reveals a few things. Firstly that the MC is not some repulsive loser. Even if she doesn't go with him in the end the fact that she would have shows that he can just go find some other average girl if he really wants. But more importantly it shows she is just desperate exactly like the MC. She falls for the other guy the exact same way the MC falls for her. He's just the first random guy to show her attention.

Ultimately the masses are misunderstanding this book in a shallow way as usual. Dosto is showing how people hastily and foolishly manufacture love out of more complex and confusing feelings. There is a sort of chain of weakness and experience in which people project their previous weaker selves onto others and reject them. So people move forward in the chain taking the last ones place but you can't make the assumption this chain leads anywhere better. That is the mistake of fantasy and self fulfilling prophecies.

>tfw they concede instantly

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If Matthew was a deciple of Jesus, why did he feel the need to copy Mark's account verbatim instead of telling his own account?
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>John Mark was not an eyewitness, so his account is less detailed.
>Matthew was an eyewitness so his account is more detailed (and came first)
>Luke was a trained historian using primary sources so his account has details the other don't
This had been known for 1700 years.
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>>24837057
>Source?
Taken from my Bible:
>Inasmuch as many have taken in hand to set in order a narrative of those things which have been fulfilled among us, just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word delivered them to us, it seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very beginning, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus, that you may know the certainty of those things in which you were instructed.
Do "orthodox" Christians even read their own Bible? Or do you just absorb whatever your priest//reverent/clergy tells you on Sunday?
>this is clear how?
He clearly, without ambiguity, establishes from the very first lines that Christ is the Logos and God.
>Reliability of Acts
I never said it was infallible. I said it was reliable.
>Mark
Mark has clear signs of editing, especially in regards to its ending, that it is obvious that it has gone through revisions. "Church tradition" also says that it was sourced from Peter, who cannot be trusted.
>Furthermore, what makes you trust Luke's nativity story over Matthew's?
You're misunderstanding here. I think that the Gospels, in of themselves, are fine sources of information to compare and contrast and build a picture, but you have to realize that they aren't infallible documents. They're eyewitness/collection of eyewitness accounts compiled and collated either by communities or by individuals to serve as liturgical documents for persons or their community. Matthew was one of those, and it has a clear bent towards painting Jesus in a Judaic light for a Judaic audience.
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>>24834436
> As long as your force yourself to believe it's real it will seem real to you

Brilliant plan
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>>24837711
>Brilliant plan
It actually is. Do you think yourself wiser than the creator of wisdom itself?

"You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart."
The corollary, of course, is that you will never find God when you fail to seek him with any heart.
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>>24837162
>>24837190
Okay where does it say he interviewed eyewitnesses?
He just says he went around collecting stories, probably didn't even leave his home town, if even leaving his own church community.

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>>24837257
This. Suttree was a proto-BM, he was working in both at the same time.

Blood Meridian just smoothly connects all those short-story vignettes into a pseudo narrative hiding something darker
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>>24836729
>muh graphic underage prostitute scenes
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>>24836724
You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll be confused, bored, enraged, and sorrowed.
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>>24836724
Suttree is ass. Haven't read No Country but The Road is better than suttree and BM.
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I stayed up til 5am reading The Road in one sitting, loved it.

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Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs).
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

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>Thread Question:
What's your favourite decade of sci-fi?
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>>24838050
The protagonist is always who the reader must side with regardless.
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>>24837847
I've read that one.
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>>24835790
finally... Dune for Chuds
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What are books with a similar vibe + setting with Votoms/Mellowlink? Do I just read Battletech stuff?
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>>24835734
Does that omnibus actually exist?

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The rarest book I own is a century old copy of to Lhasa in Disguise. It’s the account of a young explorer/lecturer who snuck into Tibet.
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>>24837713
did he spend any time describing tea?
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>>24837537
Kino beard. There's this fascinating subgenre of travel memoirs where some Westerner dresses up and pretends to be a native and sneaks into places he's not supposed to go, most famously Richard Burton in Mecca, Medina, and Harar in the 1850s. Interesting to note that Somalia was described by him as one of the most dangerous places in Africa in his time and it's not much different today, it's there that he got speared through the face by a tribesman. If there's any other works anyone knows in this subgenre that are worth reading let me know
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>>24837537
I adore travelogues. I have a rare book from 2 centuries ago, but it is hardly prestigious so no one should care and I have never thought about that until now.
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>>24837971
Thesiger also took this approach too, much later, but failed to penetrate Oman on every attempt.
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>>24837699
>Right, lemme call a buddy of mine, he's the best in the world and indeed universe in this field, get him over here to take a look this item
5 seconds later
>Ah here he is

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It's all about women isn't it? Everything else is just pointless distraction.
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>>24825581
Sauce?
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>>24835891
@grok is this real
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No. Because women are about power and ego. It’s all just power, ego, and the natural mystical rhythms of life and fate at the end of the day.
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>>24828192
>Man don't have those, at all.
Wrong. Stopped reading there.
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I had sex recently and literally everything else seems pointless to me. Cumming has completely destroyed my motivation.


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