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ì just bought a couple acres in appalachia and am building a cabin so i dont have to be a rentoid. picrel is what ive done so far
>>2854097Ah yes....I see youre going for an homage to The Stratosphere.
>>2853001I made that for lolz
>>2854117>undisturbed native soil>already compactedLmao yeah na m8. ANY undisturbed soil I ever set foot on in the wild, is the softest shit. Like walking on clouds. You're cooked, as the zoomers say.
>>2854145Do you live in the same place as OP?
>>2854110Looks like shit dude. Super uneven, poorly shaped logs. And you were supposed to cut the door and windows after the logs were built up, dipshit. And yes, the door should not be facing a fucking hill. You shouldn't have it near a hill at all retard. The water is going to run towards the cabin, no matter what you do now. Jesus dude fucking move the whole thing
Let's help each other pick a suitable bag.>litres>body size/build>what does it need to have>budget range>short listRemember, the more effort you put into your post, the better responses you will get.
>>2853344>that tying them on or something would work better. What do you think about autistic hipster canvas backpacks bros?Dont buy canvas, if youre larping and going for overnight shit then canvas is fine. If youre serious about camping synthetic materials are lighter and oddly enough more durable. ive never had synthetic shit mold but ive had plenty of canvas mold and it takes forever to dry and traps water.I used to have a 85L Kelty Asher, but after walking with it for a month in Europe i got rid of it due to the wasted space and h ave sense moved to a smaller pack since ive gotten more serious into weekend backpacking.I use a 37L Weekender Pack from LLBean. its just enough interior space for a full kit and extras. it has spots for mounting an axe or whatever to the outside of your bag. Ive probably walked 70/80 miles with the new bag and have gotten my base weight down from 50lbs to 38lbs with three days of food and water.
how much weight should be on this hips vs. the shoulders?
>>2854010is it viable to keep the bigger bag but make an inside frame to hold shape?
>>2854011Try to place the heaviest things such as water against your upper back and things like sleeping bag in the lowest portion of the bag.
Can I get some tips for my next outting? I'm fairly intermediate when it comes to bushcraft and survival, I've lived on the road and in the wilderness for five years but I'm in a period where I have a stipend and education affording me a place to live. I can a get job after this but if I do it'll be remote, down the road is where I belong as a person and it's the only place I've found with happiness and wonder still in life. This time I want to be well equipped without also being an easy target to get robbed with a bunch of expensive ultralight gear. I've got a 65 liter Martingtop, it's very nice besides feeling a little cramped, but it's also unassuming. I want to bring a tarp but I'm unsure if I should get a 10x10 or a 10x13, my goal is to have a little space around my 1 person tent or hammock that I can comfortably cook or sit out of the rain. I have a 13x13 right now that I was going to use if I get a vehicle, but it's easily too big for me to fit along with my clothing. I usually travel for years at a time out on the road, but somehow I still don't have a good idea of what I want or need when it comes to equipment and gear. I don't mind heavier loads full of extra shit if it means more comfort on the road, I walked without a break from Crescent City CA to Santa Rosa carrying a 45~ lb backpack with a broken waist strap and it really wasn't too bad. Maybe I'd rather go light weight though, and have just a light sleeping bag and a tarp and a bug net hammock. Does anyone have experience with both? My main enemies on the road so far have been bugs, rain, and humidity, so I'm mostly focused on preparing against those. Also this is a comfort thing for me, but I really hate shit being attached to the outside of my pack and prefer it all to pack in easily and be safe in the liner. Is this me being a retard, should I be maximizing the outside of my pack space as well?
Face your fears and go innawoods at nightfall
Found a friend
>>2854144Those little guys always spook me with how much noise they make hopping among the fallen leaves
this dude about to get skinwalked
>>2854140I like night hiking in the snow under a full moon
Hunting season is upon the northern hemisphere>what are you hunting this year?>any changes in gear?>any interesting stories from last year?
>>2852505Just have to pay the mass shooting toll every few weeks.
>>2852544>Just have to pay the gang shooting toll every few weeks.fixed it for ya
>>2852552Charlie??? Is-is-is-is th-th-that you???
>>2851175> What is a double barrel?> What is a magazine cutoff?> Do people really care two different types of ammo at the same time? You are an imbecile and a nohunt
What if you shoot an animal and he turns to you and starts talking to you before he dies?
How important do you think a survival knife is?Do you think it is a rather not needed item thats need can be superseded by a usual every day knife?It is easier to just snap logs for a fire than to hack them with a survival knife.This is of course not including raw survival where you are needing bushcraft and hunting skills to actually survive. Just general non normie tier camp holiday woodland camping.
>>2815455>>2815458for me a "survival knife" is a macheteif you need to make some fire any knife can do it
Commercial trash product. Small dick energy, carried by the people most likely to make stupid choices /out/.The reason isn't because there's actually anything wrong with them, a knife is a knife. The issue is that your multi tool has a knife in it, so the benefit of a large knife is dubious, doubly so if you've chosen one over a multi tool.And on the other end, a large knife isn't a tool with any specific purpose /out/. If it was part of your core equipment it wouldn't be the type of knife you would bring. It's adjacent to say...a skinning knife, a sickle, a cropping knife, a drow, a spook, bladed tools for a specific purpose which would invariably be core equipment. So anyone with a huge knife, I tend to assume they've brought it /out/ for no specific purpose, and I don't trust the kind of people who do that, because it's likely they figure it to be a weapon.I carry a bagging hook if I'm out to harvest rushes or flax, harvest coppiced willow, strip bark. But it's a farm tool, and people carrying them are typically small farmers, so people just accept I'm on some kind of forage mission- which I am.If I'm hunting, I have a skinning knife, catapult, long arm, and in that context I'm not "heavily armed", I'm a hunter, who's hunting. The kind of person you see on a walking trail, in the woods, carrying a big knife is probably carrying it as a weapon, without any identified threat. It just screams paranoid, poor social skills, someone who of I glass, I'd hike two miles just to avoid. So if your carry one of these, for whatever reason, just understand you'll ever everyone and be shunned to a fairly extreme degree whether you've done anything to deserve that or not.
>>2853214Yea see depending on the terrain you'll see guys with a bolo, saber machete, khukuri, some kind of short hacking sword, because it's for cutting brush. In some terrain you'll likely need to clear brush to make camp or build a barrier around your camp to keep specific kinds of animals out. You can't do that with a multi tool. Very easy to quickly gather a huge amount of dead thorny brush to keep cattle out of your camp, because some are notorious for trampling sleeping people and gear. Or you might want to coralle your own pack animals because some are too stupid to remember their tethered, or in sand there's often little to tether them to but a sand anchor.Some places firewood is scarce, you might have to roll faggots of brush, can't do that with an axe. Or you might have to use faggots to retain soil, or particularly sand to build shallow trenches. So you never see people carry these large knives, because either they'd have a proper tool, or make do with a multi tool, or both. The only guys I know who carry these knives, it's because they're hunting pigs with dogs, nasty business all round. Personally I'd just use a commercial jointing knife because they're cheaper and built more reliably, but honestly that's the only genuine application for one of these "survival knives" I've ever seen.
>>2853506Your concept of what tools are efficient and useful is fine. There are many combinations that work for any given environment. That said.... I assume anyone I come across in the wilderness without a weapon is some sort of mush headed retard. I can't think of many wild areas off the top of my head that are consistently free of both problematic humans AND animals.People can and do get murdered, I can recall a half dozen incidents on trails I frequented, at the times I frequented them over the last 25 years. Animals aren't a problem in many areas but don't underestimate them either. Two maulings, one fatal, in the last 4 years on my local trails.The real world doesn't care if being armed hurts your feelings.
>>2832923
The last time I rode some proper trails this year. I need to go out again but the weather has been gay. That normally doesn't stop me but all the places I would normally go to this time of year are flooded
>>2853675Motorbikes aren't out.
>>2853700Motorbikes out are /out/
>indoor motorbiking
>>2854136You're saying you haven't done that before
I fucking hate them to my core. They often buy up land, then totally ban access to the public, even in places where public access was previously legal, with zero explanation about why, while bragging and showing off videos of the beautiful overlooks they would love to arrest you for trespassing to get to on their website. If they DO allow access, there's never any signage, adequate parking, let alone improved trails. They truly do not give a fuck and I imagine them as hateful boomers who pat themselves on the back "oh the land is protected now!" as they ban access. It might as well be private land. It has all been logged already.
>>2853985>deep creek lake state park the fire tower>they will never re-open the towersWhy are you such an insufferable cunt? https://www.discoverycenterdcl.com/fire-tower"Through a joint partnership with the Maryland Forest Service and Deep Creek Lake State Park and Volunteers, the Thayerville fire tower was put back into operation as a visitor destination. In 2009 the Thayerville fire tower was listed on the National Historic Register. The only fire tower in Maryland that is still in working order. The tower is occasionally open for climbing in the summer. "
That’s all this site is
>>2854080that's old info, they have since closed it because of structural issuesthe closure was recent (last year or so)
>>2853995why should it be fixed and just provided to the public. I also didn't tell you to needle at them as implied in the first half of my post you should ask them why they are closing it what the costs are to fix it etc and see if you can help.
>>2854137>why should it be fixed and just provided to the publicso that the public can enjoy it responsibly>why they are closing it what the costs are to fix it etc and see if you can helpas if that's gonna do anythingthey just give you some terse responsethey don't really care if nobody can access it, the people who own/manage it don't hike and don't appreciate the landthey are just in it to make money
I've Never Done That Before. Also Merry christmas.
>>2853614>>2853606its crazy how just talking to a third worlder for a second makes you realize why they never fix even a single of their problems.
Hello My name is Manosos ParaguyI have come to save the world
>>2854049> goes hiking in the jungle with minimal equipment>was he retarded or free?
>>2854040Apologize !
>>2854056It's the FVSTIAN SPIRITA plurb wouldn't understand.
frog editionpastebin:https://pastebin.com/Mvfh8b87New USDA zone map has been released: https://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/Koppen Climate Map: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/K%C3%B6ppen_World_Map_High_Resolution.pngSearch terms:Agrarian, Agriculture, Agrology, Agronomy, Aquaculture, Aquaponics, Berkeley Method Hot Composting, Cold Frames, Companion Planting, Composting, Container Gardening, Core Gardening Method, Cultivation, Deep Water Culture (DWC), Dry Farming, Espalier, Farmer's Market, Forest Gardening, Forestry, Fungiculture, Geoponics, Greenhouses, Homesteading, Horticulture, Hot Boxes, Hügelkultur, Humanure, Hydroponic Dutch Bucket System, Hydroponics, Keyhole Garden, Korean Natural Farming, Kratky Method, Landscaping, Lasagna Gardening, Ley Farming, Market Garden, Mulching, No-till Method, Ollas Irrigation, Orchard, Permaculture, Polyculture, Polytunnels, Propagation, Rain Gutter Garden, Raised Beds, Ranch, Rooftop Gardening, Ruth Stout Garden, Sharecropping, City Slicker Composting, Shifting Cultivation, Soil-bag Gardening, Square Foot Gardening, Stale Seed Bed, Sugar Bush, Truck Farming, Vermiculture, Vertical Gardening, Window Frame Garden, Windrow Composting, Alpaca, Snail, Toad, Trumpeter, Turkey, Worm, biochar, vermicompostinglast thread: >>2840136(Un)official /HGM/ discord: https://discord.gg/TvN3Ed4Geh
Do you guys have any experience with ground cherries? Is there any easy way to support the branches and make them a little taller? If you don't know, imagine a tomato plant but half the height and twice the width, long horizontal branches.
>>2854019Helium/hot air baloons or a frame above the plant with lines to hold the branches.>Do you guys have any experienceI don't know what a plant is, never seen one before.
>>2854047If you're gonna be mean you could at least humor the question... I was just hoping there was a simplified solution rather than massive supports everywhere. I guess I'll just give up and not grow them, thanks for your help.
>>2854068Sorry anon, didn't realise it came across as mean, I didn't intend that. Just gave it a quick guggle and found this pic which is an interesting take on support frames.
>>2853962https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/tomato-sewage-pegwell-bay-b1955704.htmlHuh, it's real.
KEYSTONE WAS THE FIRST RESORT TO OPEN YESTERDAY AT 3PM!
Recommend me a good bib. I bought a cheap one from Academy like 10 years ago and it's served me well but I need to upgrade now that I have lots of disposable income. Any recs? Looking at pic related because I love Columbia stuff
Any of you guys do XC skiing? I wanna try it this year, there's a place near me that does a 2 hour introductory thing.
>>2854096do it, I shill it on here from time to time, I think it's really underrated and overlooked, probably because most people who are into it seem to stick to groomed trails and cruising around where it's pretty much flat. It's like if your whole impression of hiking was trail running, or if biking was just spandex roadies. It's a ridiculously fun way to explore the woods once it starts to click. I would suggest working on downhill techniques a LOT even if that's not the main aspect you care about because it's the hardest thing about XC and takes a lot more deliberate thought than striding imo. You CAN handle hills but if you already do alpine it will feel like your skis don't want to do fuck all what you want them to do and most people ultimately just choose to ride out a hill or bail out, which gets really limiting
>>2851149And continuing from this, the latest Bachelor has ever opened in history is the 15th, now it's the 16th and there's no skiing in sight. There's finally some snow coming through this week but only 6-8", which isn't anywhere near enough to open.
>>2854096where at? out west?
>#531- "Jump the Shark" Edition>Previous Thread: >>2846103>janny pls…>Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!>http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtackle>https://imgur.com/a/1Xw3N>New Bong Fishin Guide>https://pastebin.com/sDB5SQTq>First for best telescopic rod is the one you exchanged for a 3pc.>Talk about fishin
>>2854112No, because its not a rod.
>>2854112I am not very familiar with the company, so I decided to look into it. The suimenka seems fairly stiff for the kind of fishing that I'm doing. Zen Tenkara uses Fly Rod Approximate Equivalency rating, and they say it is a 6 WT equivalent. I don't know about you, but I fish tenkara on spring creeks, so that seems fairly stout.One thing I will say is that at least you're not cheaping out. However, you definitely do not need to spend that kind of money on your first tenkara rod. My first rod, which I am very happy with, is the Dragontail Mizuchi. Everyone I know who has owned one loves it. Dragontail is a widely recommended company, especially for people who don't want to deal with the tribulations of buying JDM equipment. I'm happy to discuss this further.
>>2854119Pole? Fish stick?>>2854120I liked that it had adjustable length and seemed versatile by switching the tipsI wanted something that could handle fairly large trout and wasnt too long to occasionally navigate tighter creeks
Getting a #20 on 2lb braid is what Hell must be like.
im got an big bass thru the ice
Weather is starting to get cold and I wanted to get you guys opinion so I figured I'd get the wool general goingWhat's an acceptable blend in your guys experience for /out/ings? I'm looking at getting one of those L.L. Bean birdseye sweaters and it's 80 wool 20 Rayon. Will the rayon be detrimental at all? Anyone have experience?
>>2846159I have several pairs of bison wool socks from the Buffalo Wool Company. I like them a lot, and plan to get more once there's a restock in my size. 10/10 recommend.
>>2853240How does bison compare to sheep wool? Anyone tried yak?
>>2852978it's too bad the linings of those coats are always polyester or something, i hate how stinky plastic gets, at least you can remove iti wouldn't buy one because i dont want to look like a ww2 nerd but they're very cool
My step daughter has a sweat allergy. She says she can't wear coats anymore or she gets overheated and her skin breaks out. She's been wearing regular hoodies and being cold. I was thinking of getting her 3 of these to help her out. A greater wool blend would be expensive and if I got only one for $60 she'd have to wear it until spring. She's an adult and has a husband so this is just a courtesy to try to help and show that maybe I still give a shit about her despite previous issues. She didn't ask for anything or even tell me but I'm not looking for interpersonal relationship advice, just insight into wool blends and undershirts. I don't know about shirts, but since I switched to wool blend socks my feet problems have all not disappeared so I'm a believer in the material.
>>2854125Dude that's a rayon/acrylic shirt with about as much wool as spandex.Wool (actualy wool, not 8% wool) is decent at managing sweat generally. Something about absorbing it without feeling cold. Of course cotton also absorbs sweat (and feels somewhat cold, but that doesn't seem to be the problem). If absorbed sweat in cotton causes her problems, but absorbed sweat in wool doesn't, a pure wool undershirt might be useful, or a wool/cotton blend. Synthetics are right out, and I don't really know about rayon but it's cotton adjacent so might be similar. Since this is supposed to be a gift, I'd go for a single good wool/cotton shirt as a sort of experiment. If it helps her, she can buy more of the same kind herself.
Is 450 CAD too much for a 100% wool anorak? everything is expensive these days it seems
>>2853859Known as eta proof outside the UK. Not a perfect solution either btw. I read that it wets through and gets cold and heavy. Frankly, rain gear is one of the areas where forgoing modern materials has the most drawbacks. A cheap synthetic poncho is way better than anything nonsynthetic out there.
>>2853823thanks everyone for the helpful advice and suggestions.i guess i wasnt thinking of torrential downpours since it rains all time here in the winter but its more like a constant mist
>>2853848>survivedSure. And then we learned to better then just survival.
>>2853823LARP
>>2853823you could get this hungarian military surplus coat, it looks warm and is only $20
Asking for a friend
>>2853324Uhm I am small so all my stuff is smaller I do just fine with 40l. My tent has been chopped my height gives me a benefit I think because my stuff is much smaller.
>>2854024>I am small so all my stuff is smallerno
>>2853324>I refuse to believe grown men are 5'2there are such creatures called "asians"
>>2854026Yes>>2854028I'm not asian I am just really short
>>2854041Brugly, you're midge status. You are definitely Asian or Hispanic.
