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Face your fears and go innawoods at nightfall
>>2854178>>2854181I forgot about blackberries, just don't eat them anywhere near tracks or roads, near properties or if the ends have wilted, unless you like the forbidden grazon seasoning. If you find yourself north of Coffs, there's heaps of guava going absolutely feral, too.But seriously, get a UV flashlight, shit's wild on a moonless night. Ironically, ghost mushrooms don't react to it but most other fungi does.
>>2854189What is the uv light showing you?
>>2854190I use it to hunt coolant and refrigerant leaks on cars, or finding uranium glassware in op shops. As for the bush, nothing in particular - it's just a nice light show. The lichens in the last pic appear white to the naked eye. Arachnids have prominent markings under UV and I've seen my fair share of spiders, mostly orb weavers, but I'm yet to see a scorpion. An old colleague of mine had some and they looked pretty neat with it.I found this bollard along a trail where the mycelium wasn't evident under visible light but glowed brightly under UV, so there's finding rotted wood as a fringe use case...
>>2854191This is really interesting I will have to get one.
>>2854192Convoy flashlights make some nice ones for a good price, but a cheapy generic one should work just as well. Get some clear safety glasses too, you can't see the UV directly but your eyes still won't enjoy being blasted with unfiltered UV. Cheap clear safeties are all you need to block it out. It's not really a thing in Australia as far as I'm aware, but I know they use them around the Baltic to look for amber.Also, a fine gent for the other nocturnal froggers
ì just bought a couple acres in appalachia and am building a cabin so i dont have to be a rentoid. picrel is what ive done so far
>>2854118I keep. wondering about this detail:Do you expect the state to send an official for the purpose of entering your cabin (this should be illegal in a civilized state) and inspecting the floor for the purpose of determining its composition, especially with respect to cement?Will the collector be coming to take away the chainsaw, as tax, next? >>2854145Sorry to burst your bubble but there are no places on earth that someone can set foot on, bu no one ever has. Also you're not going out much or far, right? Otherwise you'd be finding yourself walking firm ground regularly.
>>28540238" treesluxurywell I am not US American but I always believed the price you guys fetch for half way decent timber was lower than what we get here and given the forests that I assume to be more expansive and less intensively cultivated I also assume decent size trees are more common than here.Meanwhile, in my area, 30 cm fir, beech, pine and similar soft- or trashwood is stuff you just knock over on your way to cut your lumber and you either leave it to rot or sell it as firewood. Preferably in a type of deal where some pensioner goes and works it on their own. But I heard it's now bad news for you if the fag hurts themselves so might aswell cut such trash up and cart it out to some boomers house.
>>2854107inertia and compression
>>2854160>Do you expect the state to send an official for the purpose of entering your cabin (this should be illegal in a civilized state) and inspecting the floor for the purpose of determining its composition, especially with respect to cement?yes every january and february the county tax accessor drives the whole county looking for new buildings, he is one of the only officials who can can tresspass without a warrant. i met him when he appraised my house and he was very nice. he is an elected official so he was very nice and told me all the ways to keep my property taxes low and asked me to be sure to vote for him.
>>2854161im using oak not softwoods, the value of the trees vary but for a 20" dia white oak tree that is straight can be worth $800-$1k. all of our dimensional lumber is spruce/pine/fir, they dont just plow it out of the way.
I call it the Ventilation Improved Triple Pit (VITP).Two poop pits of the same depth and width as close as possible with a third low pit that becomes a downhill trench. The third pit is for urine the principle is a downhill dug trench with gravel at the bottom and dirt on top until it reaches back to the opening of the pit which is exposed gravel. You pee on the gravel it travels downhill through the gravel and you may plant things on top of the dirt which will drink the urine.This separation of urine from poop means the poop can compost and remain as dry as possible giving it the highest volume reduction possible and lowest smell. One poop pit is used for a year and then it is allowed to rest and users switch to the other pit. For every 1/4th the pit is filled you must throw in a shovel of worm rich topsoil. The poop pit being used will each week have dry crushed leaves and wood ash of aboht the same quantity tossed in. High carbon, low moisture and the final piece of the puzzle is aeration. A pipe must be installed from the two poop pits out above the roof or sitting area, and it must have a mesh or fly stop on it. This airflow allows the highest level of composting. I advise connecting the two poop pits together via this air pipe with a three piece pipe connector and only one air pipe coming out. In your local environment you should have mint or peppermint plants. These usually contain menthol which is an insect deterrent. Do not throw directly in the pit, plant them around the toilet and crush leaves up, or create an decoction and spread around the area weekly. If this is done correctly not only will it not stink but you can realistically with a permanent group never have to get in and shovel raw shit.
>>2853749Interesting. If they can piss first that would work. The urine getting in there is what makes the whole thing stink terribly we must avoid doing that. I like the pipe idea. If you had flexibility pipe you could bury one end at the level of the gravel that way you only have one end and it is easy to work with. Put a clip on it and hang it up when not used. The other option is a small maybe just couple inch deep trench in front of the poop pits filled with gravel that connects back to the pain trench.
>>2853519Good design I think
>>2853519congratz, you reinvented a worse composting toilet. the chamber goes above ground, makes aeration a lt better. then put some wooden boards for floor and seat on top. a mix of sawdust and charcoal gets tossed in after every use. the stink comes from a bad nitrogen/carbon ratio and anoxic conditions. if its proper compost, it doesnt smell. you can pee when you by it, a little doesnt hurt. just dont use it just for peeing. or you put in a urine separator and funnel it into a pile of charcoal or banana circle or something like that.when is full you switch to a second chamber and let t sit for a year+. then it can be used to fertilize your trees. some people put it in their veggie garden too, which is safe, but you can just use normal compost for that.
>>2853519all toilets are just a crude imitation of God's Perfect Toilet.The River.
>>2854106>the chamber goes above ground Yeah enjoy carrying that in by hand while off trail.
I'm gathering ideas for biomes and natural environments. I'd like to know if anyone knows of any natural environment or biome that they find pretty. It could be a description, a picture of nature that you like, anything helps.
>>2851440Jungle, probably because I've only ever been in it once.
>>2851740me too spongebob
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Sup /out/, went camping (at a wilderness campsite) recently to try out some winter gear. Sleeping bag, sleeping pad, and the rewaterproofing on my tent held up really well. One issue I had, was that while there were plenty of big logs available, there was no tinder or kindling and I had to use my swiss army knife to baton massive pieces of firewood to start a fire. This was fucking atrocious work and I realise I need a good fixed blade knife. Now I've got it in my head to get a big knife or a hatchet, picrel is available in a very decent 6 inch blade and this beauty of a 10 inch blade. As much as I know 6 inch is probably fine, my gorilla brain is telling me to get this big fucking thing, then I don't even need a hatchet and can carry the SKA for small tasks/multitool. Convince me otherwise before I drop serious money on this thing.
>>2850852If you're just chopping wood, then get a kukri/ small machete.I'm sure you can find a better one somewhere but this is the one I have.A lot easier than carrying a hatchet or a full sized machete.>>2850928Billhooks are great, but I've only found them useful when pruning or clearing brambles.Not sure if OP would want something like this.
>>2853387All of them. With a knife, you can fight anything.
>>2853603i'd like to fight a bull with a knife how bout you
Buck 119
It sounds cumbersome but I use to travel with a big mace and it was exceptional at shattering logs into fire wood. One or two swings was usually enough to make a full stack.
Why haven't you gone winter camping yet this season /out/?What, are you scared of a little cold?
>>2853920>Car 'camping'very american
>>2853974See>>2853988I'm not a homeless American, living the "van-life" (homelessness).
>>2848380I've been meaning to since it's been a few years and I just bought a new 0F sleeping bag. How do you cope with boredom, especially since the darkness sets in so soon, and being scared of the dark?>don't drink
>>2848380>be bong>dartmoor? exmoor?>what's the point?
It's been raining for 2 weeks straight here.Yesterday with the heavy cloud and fog was the darkest day I can ever remember. Even at high noon it looked like almost nught
Asking for a friend
>>2854026Yes>>2854028I'm not asian I am just really short
>>2854041Brugly, you're midge status. You are definitely Asian or Hispanic.
>>2854123White midgets do exist.but they are all pink on the inside.
>>2854167Sorry we had an opening for a white midget but Peter Dinklage already took it
>>2854170more like we had 7+ openings, but dinky guilted the white women into switching to the rainbow hobo coalition, then double ass CGI.
>#531- "Jump the Shark" Edition>Previous Thread: >>2846103>janny pls…>Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!>http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtackle>https://imgur.com/a/1Xw3N>New Bong Fishin Guide>https://pastebin.com/sDB5SQTq>First for best telescopic rod is the one you exchanged for a 3pc.>Talk about fishin
Getting a #20 on 2lb braid is what Hell must be like.
im got an big bass thru the ice
>>2853714Didn't catch anything on these today. No takers on hare's ear, pat's, yarn egg either. But I did finally catch a couple on a rainbow warrior. Not sure if it was the switch to the new fly or the new spot. But I got several hits and two hookups that jumped the hook in addition to the two I landed. They were all hitting at the exact same spot. Almost like there was a line of them waiting for food in the same spot.
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>>2854122>>2854122Get the Mizuchi. It will handle big trout. I've caught healthy bass on it. The Mizuchi is a zoom rod with a stiff tip changeout, but I only use the stock tip. The Mizuchi is a collaboration with Tom Davis, a (tenkara) famous and very thorough reviewer who fishes tight streams in the Tetons. I'm a Driftless angler, so I recommend my locals Tenkara in the iowa driftless and Tenkara Genki. They and many other YouTubers have Mizuchi footage. I'm a big fan of 3.0 Shimotsuke level line with it, but right now, you can only buy it direct from Japan.
Whats the most out there thing you have built to facilitate your camping adventures bros?and how does it match up to the autism king?>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHU8VK3qIa4
>>2842649Anything motorized is automatically not-/out/
>>2852682stay in your urban containment zone.
>>2842649did this vehicle exist before he reinvented the wheel or did he have a point even if niche?
>>2843251>>2844664motorism is the embodiement of LGBT. The means of power storage do not make a difference.
>>2854164your gay bicyclical aura betrays you, you boy molesting fruit.
Is off-grid living a wealthy person's hobby? I can't live in an off-grid cabin full time because the code doesn't allow that, and I also would need a primary residential address. The only way to make it work off-grid is if you already have a real home.
>>2854086A 900w load at 12v would be 75 fucking ampsyou cunty, retarded fucking faggot.
>>2854042Microwave internet. It’s a long range wireless internet technology for rural areas that is basically dead now because of 5G home internet and Starlink (I currently have 5G home internet since it was half the cost and let me dismantle the ugly ass 60 foot transmitter tower I needed for the microwave internet. It let me have DSL speed internet despite being ~5 miles from the nearest DSL capable trunk lines. I still don’t have a microwave for cooking. I do have an induction stove and an air fryer for when I wanna cook without hating up the house and don’t want to grill. When I lived in the tent, I had a cast iron stove for heat that I would cook on in cold weather, but otherwise I grilled or cooked things in a cast iron dutch oven on my charcoal grill.>>2854086A 900w 120v microwave and a 900w 12v microwave have 2 small differences. The first is that a 12 vdc microwave needs a transformer that steps the voltage up 200:1, and a 120 vac microwave steps up the voltage 40:1The second difference is that the 900w 12 vdc microwave draws 75 amps and needs big fat power cables, while the 900w 120 vac microwave draws 7.5 amps and can use much thinner wires. The reason why RV builders use an AC inverter and an AC microwave, to save on the price of the copper cabling and the weight, not because there’s any significant difference in the performance of an AC watt and a DC watt.
>>2854089>starlinkBefore we were able to get fiber, we used Starlink for a year or two, it was actually pretty serviceable; though the constant, unending price hikes sucked.(for a point of reference, prior to this we were on Viasat, which was virtually unusable.. 600ms pings AT BEST and a 100GB monthly cap.. all for the low, low price of $165 a month.
>>2854090My microwave internet was unlimited data, ~$85/month, generally around 100ms ping, 4mpbs down, .7mpbs up, but the modem and antenna lease was $30/month and the tower cost $1800 to install. If I wasn’t on the hill, the tower would have had to be much taller, because you need to have line-of-sight to the tower at the ISP’s location. Adding a 5G home hotspot to my cell bill was $50 extra by comparison and is about 70 times faster and doesn’t require a tower.
>>2854086holy shit/out/ discusses techmaybe the uncle teddy affection of /out/ has to do with the utter illiteracy - unfortunately conflicting with an inflated perception of the self - of /out/ when it comes to tech. KEKXformers, DC to DC, SMPS - power electronics in general - are unironically a throughouly solved subject matter.But apparently for some even the basic physical underlyings of force, distance, energy and work seem to pose unsurmountable challenges.>>2854058Please do me a favour, for my entertainment, go on to next explaining how the laws of the market are also wrong. As evidently, solar tech is pretty successfull, but since it doesn't work something must be wrong about the popular concept of markets.
Been a while since we've had an EDC thread.What are some things you always carry with you? Got any new gear recently? Knife? Flashlight? Tactical spork?I've been wanting to put together a little edc first aid kit, not like my actual hiking first aid kit, just smaller things I might need on the day to day. But I havnt really settled on a pouch yet, or, if I should get a small plastic tupperware container because it's waterproof and I hear things like bandaids can get roughed up pretty easily in a pouch
>>2853106I got a wave+ shortly after my skeletool and never picked up the skellytool again.The footprint is so similar you might as well have a wave.It's nice, but outclassed.
>>2853577It’s a Montana Knife Company Westslope.>>2853595Idk, they just ask to suck my dick, they don’t say why they think I need my dick sucked. Ask your dad, maybe he can tell you.
>>2837104wouldnt that saw be used to make sawdust for fire? not like your cutting shit with that
>>2834942nobody in this thread mentioned the fact that this is a airsoft suppressor on an airsoft replica, SSP18 if i had to guess. both by novritsch
>>2835377Missing a phillips screwdriver.This is the one I carry and I find it very useful.
Let's help each other pick a suitable bag.>litres>body size/build>what does it need to have>budget range>short listRemember, the more effort you put into your post, the better responses you will get.
>>2853344>that tying them on or something would work better. What do you think about autistic hipster canvas backpacks bros?Dont buy canvas, if youre larping and going for overnight shit then canvas is fine. If youre serious about camping synthetic materials are lighter and oddly enough more durable. ive never had synthetic shit mold but ive had plenty of canvas mold and it takes forever to dry and traps water.I used to have a 85L Kelty Asher, but after walking with it for a month in Europe i got rid of it due to the wasted space and h ave sense moved to a smaller pack since ive gotten more serious into weekend backpacking.I use a 37L Weekender Pack from LLBean. its just enough interior space for a full kit and extras. it has spots for mounting an axe or whatever to the outside of your bag. Ive probably walked 70/80 miles with the new bag and have gotten my base weight down from 50lbs to 38lbs with three days of food and water.
how much weight should be on this hips vs. the shoulders?
>>2854010is it viable to keep the bigger bag but make an inside frame to hold shape?
>>2854011Try to place the heaviest things such as water against your upper back and things like sleeping bag in the lowest portion of the bag.
Can I get some tips for my next outting? I'm fairly intermediate when it comes to bushcraft and survival, I've lived on the road and in the wilderness for five years but I'm in a period where I have a stipend and education affording me a place to live. I can a get job after this but if I do it'll be remote, down the road is where I belong as a person and it's the only place I've found with happiness and wonder still in life. This time I want to be well equipped without also being an easy target to get robbed with a bunch of expensive ultralight gear. I've got a 65 liter Martingtop, it's very nice besides feeling a little cramped, but it's also unassuming. I want to bring a tarp but I'm unsure if I should get a 10x10 or a 10x13, my goal is to have a little space around my 1 person tent or hammock that I can comfortably cook or sit out of the rain. I have a 13x13 right now that I was going to use if I get a vehicle, but it's easily too big for me to fit along with my clothing. I usually travel for years at a time out on the road, but somehow I still don't have a good idea of what I want or need when it comes to equipment and gear. I don't mind heavier loads full of extra shit if it means more comfort on the road, I walked without a break from Crescent City CA to Santa Rosa carrying a 45~ lb backpack with a broken waist strap and it really wasn't too bad. Maybe I'd rather go light weight though, and have just a light sleeping bag and a tarp and a bug net hammock. Does anyone have experience with both? My main enemies on the road so far have been bugs, rain, and humidity, so I'm mostly focused on preparing against those. Also this is a comfort thing for me, but I really hate shit being attached to the outside of my pack and prefer it all to pack in easily and be safe in the liner. Is this me being a retard, should I be maximizing the outside of my pack space as well?
Hunting season is upon the northern hemisphere>what are you hunting this year?>any changes in gear?>any interesting stories from last year?
>>2852505Just have to pay the mass shooting toll every few weeks.
>>2852544>Just have to pay the gang shooting toll every few weeks.fixed it for ya
>>2852552Charlie??? Is-is-is-is th-th-that you???
>>2851175> What is a double barrel?> What is a magazine cutoff?> Do people really care two different types of ammo at the same time? You are an imbecile and a nohunt
What if you shoot an animal and he turns to you and starts talking to you before he dies?
How important do you think a survival knife is?Do you think it is a rather not needed item thats need can be superseded by a usual every day knife?It is easier to just snap logs for a fire than to hack them with a survival knife.This is of course not including raw survival where you are needing bushcraft and hunting skills to actually survive. Just general non normie tier camp holiday woodland camping.
>>2815455>>2815458for me a "survival knife" is a macheteif you need to make some fire any knife can do it
Commercial trash product. Small dick energy, carried by the people most likely to make stupid choices /out/.The reason isn't because there's actually anything wrong with them, a knife is a knife. The issue is that your multi tool has a knife in it, so the benefit of a large knife is dubious, doubly so if you've chosen one over a multi tool.And on the other end, a large knife isn't a tool with any specific purpose /out/. If it was part of your core equipment it wouldn't be the type of knife you would bring. It's adjacent to say...a skinning knife, a sickle, a cropping knife, a drow, a spook, bladed tools for a specific purpose which would invariably be core equipment. So anyone with a huge knife, I tend to assume they've brought it /out/ for no specific purpose, and I don't trust the kind of people who do that, because it's likely they figure it to be a weapon.I carry a bagging hook if I'm out to harvest rushes or flax, harvest coppiced willow, strip bark. But it's a farm tool, and people carrying them are typically small farmers, so people just accept I'm on some kind of forage mission- which I am.If I'm hunting, I have a skinning knife, catapult, long arm, and in that context I'm not "heavily armed", I'm a hunter, who's hunting. The kind of person you see on a walking trail, in the woods, carrying a big knife is probably carrying it as a weapon, without any identified threat. It just screams paranoid, poor social skills, someone who of I glass, I'd hike two miles just to avoid. So if your carry one of these, for whatever reason, just understand you'll ever everyone and be shunned to a fairly extreme degree whether you've done anything to deserve that or not.
>>2853214Yea see depending on the terrain you'll see guys with a bolo, saber machete, khukuri, some kind of short hacking sword, because it's for cutting brush. In some terrain you'll likely need to clear brush to make camp or build a barrier around your camp to keep specific kinds of animals out. You can't do that with a multi tool. Very easy to quickly gather a huge amount of dead thorny brush to keep cattle out of your camp, because some are notorious for trampling sleeping people and gear. Or you might want to coralle your own pack animals because some are too stupid to remember their tethered, or in sand there's often little to tether them to but a sand anchor.Some places firewood is scarce, you might have to roll faggots of brush, can't do that with an axe. Or you might have to use faggots to retain soil, or particularly sand to build shallow trenches. So you never see people carry these large knives, because either they'd have a proper tool, or make do with a multi tool, or both. The only guys I know who carry these knives, it's because they're hunting pigs with dogs, nasty business all round. Personally I'd just use a commercial jointing knife because they're cheaper and built more reliably, but honestly that's the only genuine application for one of these "survival knives" I've ever seen.
>>2853506Your concept of what tools are efficient and useful is fine. There are many combinations that work for any given environment. That said.... I assume anyone I come across in the wilderness without a weapon is some sort of mush headed retard. I can't think of many wild areas off the top of my head that are consistently free of both problematic humans AND animals.People can and do get murdered, I can recall a half dozen incidents on trails I frequented, at the times I frequented them over the last 25 years. Animals aren't a problem in many areas but don't underestimate them either. Two maulings, one fatal, in the last 4 years on my local trails.The real world doesn't care if being armed hurts your feelings.
