>>97395144
They actually did a West Coast society-based campaign, it's called Royal Flush.

>>97395144
It isn't that it's focused on survival, because it isn't. It's focused on getting random loot to cook or craft into shit. And again, the random tables that are required for that experience have been placed into a separate product in order to make you spend more money.

I'm not interesting in playing "Fallout 76, tabletop edition," I'm interested in playing an RPG in the world of fallout. The interesting thing about fallout is not that I can hope to find 3 boxes of of Blamco Mac and Cheese so I can cook it into super Mac and cheese and get a negligible bonus for the day.

>>97395125
I don't know a single thing about GURPS, my point was that virtually any game that can do post Apoc would be a better fallout game that this piece of shit.

>>97395188
I haven't heard great things about it.

>>97395188
And society in tabletop roleplaying does not require much in the way of explicit rules, because you can write arbitrary scripts in natural language and it revolves around using actual people to model other people.

>>97395207
>It isn't that it's focused on survival, because it isn't. It's focused on getting random loot to cook or craft into shit.
Does it lack rules for needing food making its acquisition a non-zero pressure on the players despite the last four Fallout vidyas having it officially? If not, then what you criticize it for being "focused on" is, in fact, a gameplay loop about the demands of survival. You're certainly welcome to provide design documentation showing the intent is otherwise or explain how it's a garbage approach to it and I fully expect that to be the case, but that is a noticeably different argument from saying that it's not the wasteland-focused game being about surviving in a wasteland.

>And again, the random tables that are required for that experience have been placed into a separate product in order to make you spend more money.
That's a business decision, not a game design decision. You can salami-slice almost anything that that way, WotC HAS printed "A Giant Book Of Spells" and "A Giant Book Of Magic Items" that were each majority reprints. The goalpost will not be moved.

>The interesting thing about fallout is not
...Then what IS the interesting thing about Fallout justifying paying money for a physical book of game rules? What, specifically, would you pay money for that would not be redundant with just scraping a wiki for world information and throwing that in as the setting backdrop for an almost arbitrary system? What about that requires mechanics that could actually furnish a stable gameplay loop capable of giving consistent community touchstones?

>>97394763
>Actually, they pretty much got this one right. The Triat is messed up. The Weaver, the Wyrm and the Wyld are out of balance, which is precisely why there's so much going on that's wrong.
Is that what you're citing? If so, the context following the first sentence makes it clear that the Anansi are pretty much right about the Triat being out of balance. I wouldn't take this to mean that the Anansi are pretty much right about everything, especially when the same section goes on to establish that the Anansi have their own legends about Ananasa and that Ananasa often has her own beliefs about things that aren't necessarily true. The origin story for the World of Darkness that she tells even starts with the words "I believe" and considering that Ananasa is still a spirit trapped by her nature, I'm not sure that she can be relied on as a source of objective truth. She will say and do and believe whatever has to, in order to fulfil her nature.

>>97394376
Shes actually the whole spirit realm. She exists throughout
>>97394763
Ananasa will say this because it is the Wyld that needs saving & that is more important than truth

>>97394101
She is a mother to the spirits & the spirits are largely fine. She is composed of/reflects the Triatic resonances & it doesn't much matter if its out of balance. Survival of the fittest sometimes means stuff dies. If Garou cant compete, then thats their problem

>>97395046
>Shes actually the whole spirit realm. She exists throughout
Speculative. At the very least, she is the spirt of the Earth and all of the Realms associated with the Earth. There is no objective confirmation that she is "the whole spirit realm." Some people in the setting might believe that she is the spirit of the Tellurian but that's hotly contested and hasn't been directly confirmed as the objective fact anywhere.

People really need to accept that a whole lot of the "deep lore" of these games isn't written in stone and is open to interpretation and in many cases, is little more than speculation.

>>97389996
>What is the most tubular thing to happen in your chronicle, where the Rule of Cool took over the gothic darkness for just one moment?

Was running Hunter: the Vigil and my players found themselves fighting some paramilitary ghouls on a rural air strip in Mexico. One player character, a luchador with powers from God (who had zero firearms and just punched everything), jumped on the back of one of the trucks, started swinging. Eventually the off-roading combined with the fight in the back resulted in the driver hitting a rock, which sent the truck rolling. I had him roll Dex + Athletics to see if he could jump off without/with minimal injury. He got eight successes. Landed perfectly on his feet right in front of a few ghouls, who decided at that point they should run for the hills.

>>97395046
>Make Garou so that they can police the more nefarious influences of the Triat because the bears are soft lads who don't like violence too much
>Get mad and stop talking when they crash out because they get no guidance
I don't know bros, sounds like miscommunication to me.

>>97394967
Impossible speed in 1e gives you +30ft speed permanent (as in forever, as in if your normal speed is 30 now is 60) and +10x mythic level for 1 hour if you want to spend one mythic point, so at 5th mythic level you could spend 1 point and get 50ft extra per hour

God speed in 2e is +10ft for one minute if you spend one of those 3 per day mythic points you have. Doesn't increase above that. Epic some would say

>>97395023
that sounds lame for 2e, but what about the rest of the Mythic stuff?

>>97395053
2e's Mythic was deemed by and large a failure by most of the userbase, not for breaking the game, but for being incredibly lame. Mythic Proficiency for skills and checks basically gets "weaker" the higher level you become because it works along the same track all other types of proficiency does (essentially giving a +10 bonus instead of the +2/+4/+6/+8 track you get as you level), and also makes it so that ironically investing your mythic into things you're already good at is WORSE than investing it into things you would otherwise have no business doing, so a Wizard will do better investing their Mythic into Athletics than the Fighter will, and the Fighter will do better investing into Arcana than the Wizard, etc.

Many of the feats are similarly lame, and most of them do very little to make you feel like you're able to do incredible feats that a non-mythic character could also do with a good enough roll.

>>97395053
It's pretty underbaked no matter how you slice it. More functional than the 1e version, but not the Exalted power fantasy you would expect from it. The biggest issue comes from the Mythic Callings, your "Tier 1" Mythic powers being *painfully* limited in applications. Combined with the early-game feats being "nice to have" more than "lemme bend the Tarrasque like a straw", and you spend a lot of time just playing 2e normally with an occasional "official homebrew", Temu Divinity: Original Sin 2 Source Power.
Once you get a Mythic Archetype and Mythic Gear, you definitely feel far more potent and more akin to the fantasy, but that's locked off to 12th-level minimum. Spellcasters are left wanting (as usual for 2e) thanks to no item runes, 2 Mythic Archetypes dedicated for them, and a poor selection of things that interact with spellcasting in general. And the RAW rules for Mythic Point regeneration, requiring you do to a "Mythic task" or crit succeed at your skills is really low.

Is it just me, or does no one really give a shit about Starfinder 2E?

>>97394073
A small change I'd like to see is Press of Battle also having this:
If this unit is on the charge and loses combat, instead of rolling to flee this unit is only pushed back. (Or however they fucking describe shield wall).
Just an extra bit of bonus for charging with infantry to make them want too. Spears will still want to take it, but hand weapon shields or other configurations are happier charging again.

>>97394580
Try to find out whether your country has specific consumer protection laws regarding delivery times. I found out that the Netherlands has a legal limit of a month + 2 weeks in cases when the website doesn't explicitly give you a delivery time (which GW doesn't give after your order), so I might try to email them on Monday to try and get a specific date out of them.

>>97394766
I'd love to see fly get fucked in a new way. For every wound a unit has lost, fly is reduced by 1. Then everything from dragons to balloons get a tamp down on power.

>>97395167
Model, not unit.

>>97394138
The trouble is that GW marketing dept is cancer and thinks the point of a new edition is to push a new gimmick they can point to, instead of taking a good core and refining it further.

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>>97394834
the
future
is
now

>>97394571
It's an even split but there's far more UW than UB sets in Standard

>>97394836
This but unsarcastically.
Noble/Ignoble Heirarch is generally better and it's not even one of the better mana dorks.
I also ignored that you need to run a bunch of elementals in order to make this a viable early game play.

>>97395062
>Hierarch
What's better? Fucking BoP and Halfling?

Went 3-0 at prerelease. Didn't get any big money cards but I had a lot of fun and got to do cool flashy plays. Remember: with elves, you win

>>97394601
Take inspiration from Scorn with biological connection points and access plugs. As far as programming them goes its pretty much the same as a machine except your manipulating the neurons in their brains.

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>>97394601

You could use the Avatar method of plugin their neuronal tails together.

>>97394601
first thing that comes to mind is just connecting/rewiring neural pathways in the machine's brain/neural cluster
it's also possible to encode information into DNA (already being done IRL with significantly greater density than conventional electronic storage, albeit currently slower, more expensive, and less reliable), but as far as I understand, we don't know exactly how instinctive behaviors are formed/transmitted, and there's no conclusive proof of DNA being the vector

Is there any way a government could make stronger family bonds among the public, presuming they have enough knowledge and money?

The purpose is to make people prize their family more so that said family can be held hostage for their good behaviour.

>>97394962

1-Encourage multi-generational family units.
2-Encourage ancestor worship
3-Filial piety.
4-Introduce collective familal punishments if they fail to police their own members.

>>97380597
Whether it turns out to be a VOTOMS show or a "VOTOMS show", I'll probably like it either way, but I'm holding out hope that it ends up being good and not good with a giant asterisk.

>>97386992
I've only watched the original series, how's the other VOTOMS stuff?

>>97389593

Mellowlinks pretty kino.

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>>97389593
The side-story OVAs (Mellowlink, Finder, Irvine) are all very much enjoyable. Recommended.

The other OVAs expand on Chirico's story in various ways - not necessarily in good ways, though. At least the AT action is always great.

>>97392545
Are the sequel series worth watching? I've seen a lot of mixed perceptions about heresy and phantom arc

>>97393741
Prerelease is probably your best test then. Its very low skill and fun. Other main idea is to simply play with a friend. Theres a few 60 card premade boxes on store shelves that are cheap. The FF one was like 20 bucks. Grab it with a friend and play. The main thing you get from paper is talking to and interacting with other humans. Either as friends and just chatting, but also talking about WHAT you want to play. You dont always have to be armed to the teeth for the standard meta with some hyper efficent deck. You can agree on things.

wow 6 posts outta nowhere under 30 mins in the deadest thread on /tg/

totally not fake, staged and botted

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>>97393805
well i agree, dont know whats going on there. Do people hate arena? Powered cube is such a cool format, completely revived my interest in playing it again
>>97393637
After a horrible 0-3 with a shit draft, the arena gods have been kind. I thought at first this pile is kind of mediocre (barely any fast mana and not that much control), but boy I already have gone infinite turns twice and am 5-0, so I wont complain

You know what's pretty good? Ugin
You know what's really good? Ugin, crafted into The Enigma Jewel, then casting another Ugin
And now you've got 4x ugin per turn for up to 12 life 4 cards per turn or +12 mana per turn
And your enigma jewel could be crafted with a hedron archive or another enigma jewel and add +2 mana per turn on top of that

And then your opponent is looking at his cards as I blow up target up to 4 lands up to 4 creatures up to 4 artifacts with 1x boom box + esoteric duplicator in a single turn cycle because it comes back at my end of turn before they untap

>>97395229
you know what's good?
watching a poogin faggot collect his teeth off the floor (if he isn't layed out in a pool of his own blood)
you pathetic pussies always make the best screeches when I lay one of you out at the table (rare seeing as you're fucking cowards stuck in online magic for just this reason)

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>>97394717
Depends on who the authority figure is (allied, neutral, foe), how they interact with us (respectful, abrasive, smug or belitteling) and what they want (resonable request, common goals, favor for a favor, abusing a position of power" and what consequences might arise, depending on our behaviour

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>>97394818
>>97394862
>>97394997
>>97395007
so now that all four of you have repeated eachother saying "it depends" and OP has ignored every single one of you, have you realized that it was obviously a bait thread you shouldnt have replied to?

take my advice - next time ask yourself if the answer is immediately obvious to everyone, if question even matters and why anyone would care about your answer in the first place. This thread checks all three of those boxes btw

>>97394717
I had some players who would throw a bitchfit at any NPC being in position of authority over their PCs, but they were fortunately in an extreme minority and were always immature or heavily autistic spergs.
Some form of hierarchy to which the PCs belong is inherent to almost any setting and it's a sensible thing both from worldbuilding, narrative and game design points of view. Anyone with half a brain should understand that this is part of the convention they're immersing themselves in and act accordingly

>>97395077
Got it, I've updated my checklist of what I need to do every time I post a thread:
>I need to say how it is relevant to Traditional Games.
>I need to give an example of my own experience regarding the thread topic.
>I need to say what system the topic is about.
>I need to say what setting the topic is about.
>I need to explain why I am not able to post the thread in a general instead.
>I need to explain why anyone might care about the topic.
>I need to explain my personal motivation behind making the thread.
>I need to respond to each and every response to the thread.
What thread creation requirements did I miss, Mister Janitor?

>>97395107
Why did you reply to me and not any of the six people discussing the topic you started?

Did you only make this thread to waste their time? Why else would you care more about defending the thread than actually engaging in it?

Establishing a telepathic link with a cute girl getting bred by tentacles, I think you'd also get the feedback right?

>>97390843
I mean obviously

>>97390843
What game?

>>97390998
Ok she handsfree nutted and wet herself
>>97391006
My game

>>97392457
>My game
But how can it be for your game if /tg/ plays no gaems?

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Ancestry: Orc
Heritage: Hold-Scarred Orc
Background: Hounded Thief
Class: Alchemist
Research Field: Bomber
Archetype: Artillerist
>While orcs may not typically be thought of as ingenious inventors, but addressing every problem by blowing it up is a well-trodden orcish tradition.

>>97395123
It's not frightening to have some idiot go "I know you are but what am I" when it's obvious that's all they're doing.

>>97395123
Oh we all know. If he wasn't a worthless liar and really cared about thread quality, he wouldn't have such regular, repetitive melties.

>>97395262
That doesn't make any sense. If someone values quality, their complaints would be reflective of drops in quality. For example this thread, which is mostly a lazy, low-quality circlejerk and not really to do with /tg/ at all. If threads don't have that I don't criticize. It's you guys who lie constantly, for example claiming to always recognize my gens, or claiming that an image posted twice in three years is "repetitive".

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>>97394243
The quarry:
>>97367292
Bones, unliving stereotype (lich)
Commands a battalion, 5 companies of mummified, intelligent undead
wields deadly curses and advanced fire magic
a worshipper of the pagan sun god El, he's holed up in an ancient sun temple
isolated from both nature and civilization, he shouldn't have too much ability to project power, but within his own territory he is all-powerful, some of his undead are magic users themself
reports indicate his ancient religion binds him to certain oaths of non-aggression, which is sympathetic, but he is still an anathema to the natural order and must be destroyed
>>97367454
Sculptor (fleshwarper)
technically still a human, though he doesn't look it anymore
sculpts monsters to protect himself against the kingdom's enforcers and the beasts of nature compelled to snuff out his existence
despite being reviled by everybody that knows of him, he is able to enact schemes and manipulation through bodily possession of peasants
those that fall to him are sure to meet extreme cruelty as he is able to steal their souls and mutate their bodies, death would only be the beginning

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Powerfantasies are so boring sometimes

>>97395082
Skill issue on your part

>>97395052
Ganbatte green-knight kun, go gettem!

>>97394313
No attached image? For shame.

>>97387205
That reason being that PC culture requires evil and degeneracy to be made into a palatable valid option!

>>97391548
>The gods exist whether you believe them or not.
That is exactly the opposite of how it works, the eldar literally had to hatefuck slaanesh into existence, not that lust and destructive pleasure didn't exist before then, it takes a certain threshold of belief in it as a tangible thing to make it into a tangible thing.

>>97394912
They didn't create Slaanesh by believing in it.

>>97394912
>Taking the ancient sagas of the Eldar, an alien race with an understanding of the warp and the reality of immaterial concepts and how they blur the lines of mythology and history, allegory and the tangible, as a factual account in regards to a timeless gestalt entity that represents the very thing that brought down their civilization
Are you actually retarded?

>>97387179
The solution is to not care about nu41k.

>>97395150
the warp does not experience time in a linear fashion, reality does, slaanesh's birth in reality is a fixed oint on the linear timeline but simultaneously slaanesh's existence in the warp is not, that's a quirk of warp physics, they did create slaanesh and you're a fucking secondary if you aren't aware of that very cemented lore.
>>97395072
they didn't literally call out the name of slaanesh, but they did come to believe in absurd heights of degeneracy as a lifestyle to the point where (like warfare) belief in the power of that degeneracy created a warp deity to embody it.

>>97394808
>you could just rip game models and print them.
Could you? Even if you could rip the raw models, more often than not they're not something you could just print and use.

>>97394808
>if you're looking for models you could just rip game models and print them.
I can see Warcraft 3 models work in something like 15mm
WoW models wouldn't look good in any form desu

>>97394478
Speaking of, anyone got any good brutalist building tutorials? I have some assembled MDF buildings sitting in a box since half a forever.

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Cool

>>97394335
Their Kings of War kits are good and they fulfilled my He-man pledge with no problems.