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Player Hate Thread, because fuck you little shits.
>say I'm looking for active people to play with
>bro I'm totally active I can be there every game
>you sure you can be there every Fri night?
>yeah totally I can be there 99% of the time
>okay fine you're in
>bro my job is getting too hectic something something they put more responsibilities I can't play anymore after 2 sessions

>let me make up this retarded plan where I walk up to the guards at the armory and tell them we're taking their shifts
>what? who the fuck are you why aren't you in uniform?
>uhhhhhh... I was just hired by your captain I'm just a hired helping hand
>I've never heard of something this ridiculous, which captain so I can confirm?
>uhhhhhhhhhhh captain steve rogers
>there is nobody by that name who the fuck are you people
>DM bro how come we don't even get to do diplomacy checks for this?

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>>97264693
>the sneak example reads like a railroading "no you actually can't do that" attempt and bad DM style as well tbch

Case in point of railroading meaning fucking nothing when some idiot thinks skill checks for obviously retarded shit not being possible is "railroading".
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>>97264688
>does nothing to complete the missions and in fact tries to savotage everything we do
>if we are in danger he flees
I think there's a thread made by that guy currently on the catalogue, lol.
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>>97264763
"I walk past the guard and tell them I am not here. Is the bluff or stealth I roll"

Neither, it wont work

"OMG stop railroading me and let me try"
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>>97264486
You just need the right players. Pic Rel.
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>>97264773
I will never understand players like that, if only in the sense that they always seem to act offended and angry when they're treated like shit for treating others like shit

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How do we fix Steampunk?
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>>97253623
>magic is just exotic technology
>everything magic does can be described by in-universe science
fantasy settings that take this approach are universally shit
even if it makes logical sense, I reject it on this basis alone
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>>97262926
>mad because something makes sense
based
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>>97262926
It only makes logical sense according to our own world.
Anons like the one you responded to fail to understand that a fantasy world can have aspects that are beyond its own natural aspects, because they will always apply real world logic, even to something that can have impossibilities occur such as fantasy.

It's a waste of time trying to talk to them about fantasy.
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>>97264337
>Anons like the one you responded to fail to understand that a fantasy world can have aspects that are beyond its own natural aspects
Not really. Physics deals with what is real. Reality is reality. Is it real within itself? Within the fantasy? Then it's physics of a kind. Fantasy is fantastical physics.
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>>97264337
Are you implying a fantasy, however absurd, wouldn't have its own self-contained logic? How else does it exist?

inb4:
>"it's fiction it doesn't exist"
Not what I asked.

How is it? Looks bretty fun
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>>97263587
love the davy carket.
I need to see if friends would be up to playing this, post apoc/mad max shit and breathing new life into old toys is baller as fuck.
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>>97263599
Akira inspired car with freehand for fun
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>>97263599
>great scaled scrapdragon
>the whole menacing effect is ruined by the graffiti scribble
Love it.
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>>97263587
Keep posting, king. These are delightful
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>>97254780
What thickness of plasticard do you use the most? Thinking here for plates and other stuff.
And what's granny mesh? Can't seem to find anything on google

The DM reveals that all this time, the 'Chaotic Evil invading soldiers' you've been fighting and slaughtering were actually Lawful Good innocent untrained peasants. They were tricked/convinced into believing they were fighting for survival and defense of their impoverished homeland.

THE PALADIN FALLS AND LOSES ALL POWERS!!!

Do you feel like a hero yet?
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>>97252887
If Paladins weren't supposed to fall then they wouldn't have rules for it. The whole broken oath thing is a Chekovs Gun, and it's immoral on the part of the DM to NOT shoot the gun during the campaign. Paladins are literally asking for it by having an oath at all.
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>>97254320
>a holy warrior going to war causes him to fall that's just being a shit DM.
Consummating your marriage automatically causes a Paladin to fall, so it's reasonable that going to war does.
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>>97264534
>Paladins are literally asking for it by having an oath at all.
You clearly don't understand the concept of an paladin oath, or have mistaken it for a taboo. A paladin oath has to be knowingly violated, or accomplish an act so incompatible with their vows and code of conduct in general, that it requires repentance for. The idea that a DM should be obligated to punish the player in some kind of "gotcha" moment only adds to unnecessary hostility, and just means the players have no reason to trust their DM if they're made aware they're intentionally plotting to ruin their fun on the flimsiest excuses.
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>>97252887

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>Currently judging a top level competitive Pokemon duel
>Opponents are the 2 current top PokeMasters: Bobby James, and Jim Robertson
>Bobby plays Misty’s Duel, a powerful trap he is well known for using
>Jim claims to not know how to play rock paper scissors so we should coin flip
>Bobby calls BS, as they have previously played rps when he used Misty's Duel against him

What is your call, professor?
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No game intended for people who might not understand how to play rock paper scissors should have a tournament.
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>>97263623
Teach Jim RPS.

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Where do people actually play VTT in 2025?
I searched for games on Roll20 for the first time in probably 5 years, and it's an absolute fucking ghost town.

Pic unrelated
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>>97264086
Translation for us older millennials and Gen-Xers:
>Discord == BBS with actual pictures instead of ASCII art
You find a server the same way you would find a BBS back in the day: by knowing someone already there is rolling the dice with random ones found online
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>>97264086
>>97264208
i guarantee if you google "[your game here] dicord" there will be an official discord server made by the game company full of people who play the game.
this is also the vtt i use now
https://discord.gg/AkgTxNaS 40$ one time payment and you host the game on your pc.


some games i like that have discords
https://discord.gg/AkgTxNaS Dungeon Crawl Classics
https://discord.gg/pathfinder paizo games
https://discord.gg/mothership-461670627468771329 mothership (think aliens ttrpg)
https://discord.gg/KT4PWwNV pilot.net the lancer rpg discord (WARNING THIS IS A LEFTY SAFE SPACE WARNING THIS IS A LEFTY SAFE SPACE IF YOU ARE A CHUD DO NOT ENTER)
and all 4 of these servers have sections that are about playing different games.
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>>97264086
>Do you need to scrape the web for servers to join and then advertise your games there?
Here you go gramps, use this one
https://disboard.org/servers/tag/tabletop?fl=en
But basically yes, enter server, look for a channel that looks like it's for searching games and ask/advertise there
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On a similar topic, I'm playing Kingdome Death monster on Tabletop Simulator checking for bugs to form a group later probably (note: there's some sadly)
I gotta say Tabletop Simulator is growing on me
I was kinda off/afraid of it, because it gave me too much "fake" vibes, like "it's not the same"
But damn after playing with it, it's literally the dream mark zukerberg wanted with the metaverse, I can see a group of 4 guys in a call playing on TTS being kinda almost the same.
80% there
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>>97263752
Reddit.
>>97264544
I use it for ttrpgs. Maps, dice, books and minis on the table. It's as close to in-person as a vtt gets and I massively prefer it to all the bullshit tools and nonsense features that turn your ttrpg into a fucking video game, that other vtts offer.

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Playing games with AI is more fun than playing with humans.
Gemini > Phil
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>>97261866
I'm sorry that you feel that way, Dave
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>>97261866
Yeah for like 15 minutes until the memory window collapses and you have to remind them of the rules and context all the time. Not even locally could I afford such an absurd task.

Maybe you never played with humans before. Figures.
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Get better friends, anon.
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>>97263800
>better
>implying he has any at all
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>>97262950
Avogadro's Member.
>>97261866
Not even true with ERP.

Welcome to /wbg/, the thread for the discussion of in-progress settings for traditional games.

Here is where you go to present and develop the details of your worlds such as lore, factions, magic and ecosystems. You can also post maps for your settings, as well as any relevant art. Please remember that dialogue is what keeps the thread alive, so don't be afraid of giving someone feedback or post whatever relevant input you might have, cunt!

Last thread: >>96999149

Worldbuilding links: Post some
Fantasy map generator: https://watabou.itch.io/medieval-fantasy-city-generator
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>>97264597
>What I meant is that you cannot co-exist with them in some honest
They literally coexist with humans in the freaking story. Hell, the rapid expansion of their species is predicated on coexistence with humans. Legitimately the only point of real racial conflict is the human sacrifice, which is unexplained in both need and nature.
>it like to co-exist with vampires in some honest way
Plenty of settings have humans coexist with vampires and the ones that don't generally rely on contrivances like vampires being inherently stupid, evil, and/or impulsive and bizarrely anti-social even among each other if other vampires even exist on a level where their continued survival in the first place makes no sense.
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>>97264657
>They literally coexist with humans in the freaking story
Not in any honest (or mutually conscious) way.

>Plenty of settings
That just means that you can tweak your setting as you like.
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>>97264707
They say give us women and we’ll give you gold. Then they do that. Totally honest.

Ideological xenophobia is cringe and dumb.
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>>97264737
It is like totally honest hooking on drugs. Not accepted by the whole society as a norm.

>Ideological xenophobia is cringe and dumb.
Modern mentality killed all the thrill. "We are friends with everybody now, even if they normally want to kill us" or "that's your typical alienated lizardman whose mental processes are the same as of an American basedboy".
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>>97165346
>>97165495
What about giving it thematic spells, like defensive wards and shit? Same with the other elements? Also, what are some abilities you would suggest for light and darkness magic specifically besides shooting lasers and light speed movements for the former and shadow tendrils and traveling through shadows for the latter?

I would like to talk about the Chronicles of Darkness game line Deviant: The Renegades, or more specifically, one major upcoming supplement. Deviant was released in late 2021, and has had three additional sourcebooks since then. A new supplement, Black Vans, has been in playtesting for a while, and is currently being previewed.

I am not being paid or sponsored to promote this book in any way. I am just very fascinated by it, and indeed, I already ran a mini-campaign using the playtest material.

Deviant is, by default, a game about playing angsty, scarred superheroes who either fight world-manipulating conspiracies or work for them. Black Vans is a toolkit full of variant rules, quick NPC creation, variant character types, and variant genres. These variants range from the minor to the dramatic, completely overhauling what were once non-negotiable, foundational themes and mechanics. Maybe your character is not angsty or scarred at all, perhaps they are a """""regular human""""" like John Wick or Batman, or the campaign might have nothing to do with world-manipulating conspiracies.

These variant genres include cyberpunk, high fantasy, post-apocalypse, space opera, and superhero emergence.

This is a beefy supplement. For example, one chapter alone dedicates 38,000+ words to playing other monsters of the Chronicles of Darkness: Beasts, changelings, demons, Sin-Eaters, hunters (entirely separate from the variant rules for """natural""" superpowers), mages, mummies, Prometheans, vampires, and werewolves. No additional supplements beyond Deviant are necessary; the rules are self-contained, allowing the group to play a monster mash of an urban fantasy setting without needing a daunting 7+ books. And yes, they are supposed to be balanced against one another, so a vampire in the same group as a full-fledged mage is probably some older Kindred.

(Continued.)
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>>97260395

You are welcome.

>>97260797

Yes, it is very much possible to make a fake vampire, a fake werewolf (down to the spirit manipulation), and so on using the core rulebook alone. A fake changeling, even, given Shallow Graves and powers like Fate-Bind and Opener of Ways.

It is also possible to use the Black Vans' 38,000+ word chapter on playing Beasts, changelings, demons, Sin-Eaters, hunters (entirely separate from the variant rules for """natural""" superpowers), mages, mummies, Prometheans, vampires, and werewolves using Deviant's own rules.
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>>97262563
Alright I'm def getting this shit then. The other Deviant supplements were pretty damn crummy so I was hesitant
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>>97264048

Have you had a look at Shallow Graves yet? It is very comprehensive in expanding player options.
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>>97264144
No, I only have clade companion and devoted, how many am I missing?
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>>97264163

Just Shallow Graves. All said, it is significantly more comprehensive a book than The Devoted Companion and The Clades Companion.

Eric Zawadzki's Patreon currently has the full pre-release text of Black Vans up for subscribers, too.

Figure edition

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-november-10-2025

>News
The 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotation
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

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>>97264507
even for the child molesters??
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>>97263516
did you saw current box office records, all movies they made have been failures, the last hail mary is now is brining back cap america and iron man
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>>97264810
ESPECIALLY the child molesters.
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>>97263126
>>97263126
Also what 4HM events have you been in? I've been in them on and off since tournament 4
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this thread made me realize that we're all globally in the shit right now because companies got tricked by entitled narcissists into hiring literal nutjobs that would've ended in the looney bin if they still existed and literal negative IQ retards who need to breathe manually, while paying them above the average wage for doing jackshit, too, just to not hire people who can do the job.

Imagine, you can't get a real job because a legbet could cry about black on black violence caused by time traveling whites from the penis dimension and land a job as a Creative Director of surgical breast reduction or Narrative Fuhrer of Gay Lore somewhere in a big company, just for being sexually retarded and mentally gay, while getting promoted for openly trying to kill whatever xheyxhem are pretending to work on.
I just don't fucking get it, man.

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Diabolic X edition

Previous >>97182768

>Basics Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/GWjTU9Uv

>Anon's Locals Survival Guide
https://pastebin.com/xXp5jShL

>Fanmade PC sim
https://pastebin.com/u6aKrBSg

>Official Mobile sim (Release Date TBA)
https://www.digimon-alysion.com/en/

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>>97264207
Everything with Pomumon goes hard
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>>97262207
God I really need this card, just for collection. Please let me hit it in one box. Please. It's even got a Pendulum X next to the pretty lady it's literally officially top tier digimon art
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>>97264325
Even the info-dumping-of-the-whole-season-in10-minute lolibaba?
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>>97264625
Yes
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>>97264506
Ignoring Hudie (which doesn't do anything Green-flavoured because nobody runs Kabuterimon), Green. Extremely tough to rely on battle gimmicks and soft control when every other deck can hide in raising and/or get effect immunity and/or protection and/or incidentally remove every small body you spit out.
Also feels like more pre-Liberator Green decks have been treated worse than any other colour. Laughably bad Rapid and Cherubi support, only a handful of plants and insects (mostly for other archetypes), essentially nothing for Leomon, JP getting colour swapped so the one fun Hybrid deck would stay dead.

Can't even be happy about the Tyrannomon support because they gave it a pointless red Koromon and locked it out of consistency options until it gets them in the literal last wave of dual memory boosts

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Gundam Meta Edition

Here is a thread to discuss trading card games other than the big three.
>Build Divide
>Force of Will
>Final Fantasy TCG
>DBZ CCG
>Wixoss
>Keyforge
>Gundam
>Legend of the 5 Rings (L5R)
>Digimon
>Flesh and Blood
>Gate Ruler
>Battle Spirits

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>>97263983
Different anon here:
It sounds to me like the early game might start off a little slow, or poor luck in your opening hand could cause the equivalent of being mana screwed in Magic. To combat this, you could have a generous mulligan rule, or as an option, you could let players 'go gravedigging' on their turn, sacrificing all other actions to, for example, turn the top 5 cards of their deckinto their graveyard. It kind of reminds me of the 'Exert' rule from the old Highlander TCG. Alternately, you could always just start the game with X amount of cards in your graveyard. I dunno, just a few options to consider.
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>>97262944
I mean that's fine but I'm definitely not crediting a game with "good art" if that art is just lifted from somewhere else.

>>97263005
they could have done better. low budget doesn't have to mean bad.
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>>97264404
Wixoss is just too based for western markets.
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>>97264404
>takara tomy
My god it all makes sense now.
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>>97264822
Fuck Moot

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>leather armor
>studded leather armor
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For me, it's gambeson with chainmail and leather for light armor
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>>97258324
who cares retard it looks cool
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>>97256116
>faggot OP
>shits up the board

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Recently I was thinking about alternative combat systems.

I remember someone talking about instead of HP the payer has a Jenga tower and he needs to remove peaces once hit, the skill is to remove peaces without the tower collapsing


So I started thinking.
For example what if the combat somehow involves cups and balls?

Instead of a D20+modifier nonsense why not change it up? Why not give a player 10 balls or legos or whatever and to win an encounter the player needs to land 2 balls in 1 cup?

There can be variants of this like a super hard encounter demands the player lands all 10 balls or what about reducing the size of the cup with the difficulty of combat?

What if we implement a fate system from Talisman for the players? What if legendary bosses have something like that for themselves? And can negate the players victory?

What if different monsters use different "balls" like for example some bone golems will be you throwing legos into cups and zombies are aluminum balls while naga can be gummy bears? That actually makes the monster feel different and not a copy pasted set of numbers. Also the different aerodynamics of these "balls" are part of the fun.

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So what I’m picking up; OP wants a combat system where a Dex roll should be done by the player playing 5 finger fillet on moms dining room table to improve his actual dexterity, strength rolls should involve actual kettle bells and charisma checks need to be over saw by someone with real world sales experience to see if their speech waivers on delivery huh?

OP is high as fuck, but I can appreciate some out of the box thinking
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>>97260896
No, you need to answer my question before I murder you.
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>>97254699
Why do you think it's incoherent?
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>>97260896
>Jesus christ dude you need to seek emergency psychological help.
Thanks so someone else noticed he is having a schizo breakdown
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>>97238257
You’re an alcoholic

Holiday Special Edition

Previous Thread: >>96962908

The thread to talk about Super Heroes/Villains/Spies/Agents/Rogues be it in spandex or not.

Popular Choices for Games:

>Mutants & Masterminds
Currently the most played one, uses a d20 resolution for everything, has powers building and rules for tactical combat.

>Marvel TSR/ FASERIP
Classic Supers game from the 80s, still has a lot of fans and various retro-clones. Uses a d100 with an universal resolution table to decide the degree of success, has random character generation and abstract rules for powers and combat.

>Masks (PbtA)

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>>97257901
That's fair. My understanding is that 'unc' is short for 'uncle' and means a man who is or acts middle-aged? That fits the character pretty well, actually.

>>97258566
That's fair. Everyone has different opinions and aesthetic opinions regarding character design can be particularly divisive.
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>>97258563
You have Worm.
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>>97247451
I liked MHA enough to start working on the idea of a super setting like it. Though currently I have is:

>Government and Corporations are giving big pay outs for the next generation of Heroes with their biggesr group being nor!Justice League.
>Elements of Public Safety is commercialized because of Heroes and everyone wants to be a rising star.
>Vigilantes handle all the real dirty work because they attack corrupt Heroes, government members, law enforcement and villains and other vigilantes but get labeled as terrorists/villains often. Some if they have good publicity are picked up.
>Villains are actual people who go around committing crimes but also some people rigged/primed by the system for rally arlund the flag and keep Civic Heroics going.
>Going to an academy guarantees you a contract and landing a gig as a sidekick who can potentially become a Hero if you break out enough.
>Superheroes emerged because the Illuminati leader as a kid watched a Saturday Morning cartoon and wanted that world of endless conflict to happen..the Illuminati played along because they get awesome powers and its easy to control the masses.
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>>97263279
You mean Public Safety Commission?
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>>97241180
What are some traditionally “villainous” powers you would like to see more heroes use and vice versa? And besides picture related, what are some examples of the concept handled effectively?


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